This will be my first time posting on any forum, so forgive anything that I do wrong.
I recently purchased an onn 100005207 from a thrift store, and after using the boot menu to wipe the data, I was met by an FRP lock. For the past few hours, I have tried countless methods to bypass it, and none of them have worked. I can offer more information if needed.
Give proof of purchase to the manufacturer of the tab or ask the thrift guy about the person who sold it. The device could be stolen because it was dirty erased.
Kenora_I said:
Give proof of purchase to the manufacturer of the tab or ask the thrift guy about the person who sold it. The device could be stolen because it was dirty erased.
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I would try that, but the thrift store doesn't offer a detailed receipt, so I doubt it would suffice as proof of purchase. The second problem would be that donations at this specific thrift store are anonymous. I will still attempt to contact Walmart to see if they can do anything.
Well you should try contact the manufacturer or smth like that.
Conzentroid said:
This will be my first time posting on any forum, so forgive anything that I do wrong.
I recently purchased an onn 100005207 from a thrift store, and after using the boot menu to wipe the data, I was met by an FRP lock. For the past few hours, I have tried countless methods to bypass it, and none of them have worked. I can offer more information if needed.
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Discussing bypassing FRP would help thieves all over the world make use of stolen devices, and who would want to take that kind of risk?
You need to return the tablet to the thrift store for your money back, or if you cannot, then you can use it as a practice device for electronics repair, and consider it a lesson learned to thoroughly check devices before you purchase them from a place where returns may be difficult.
Thats exactly why I cant help you
I may or may not know how to do it but I cant assist you in getting into a possible stolen phone.
Try give it into the police and tell them that ypu think it is stolen.
They will investigate further.
-Kenora
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Give proof of purchase to the manufacturer of the tab or ask the thrift guy about the person who sold it. The device could be stolen because it was dirty erased.
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By dirty erased, I assume you're talking about recovery mode?
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whats happen if one country block IMEI of the phone and you will take this phone to another country???
will work or not?
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Why'd it get blocked? Blocked IEMI numbers are usually because they are stolen.
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whats happen if one country block IMEI of the phone and you will take this phone to another country???
will work or not?
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TC,
I will tell you the answer after you return the stolen phone.
Good day.
ok why already everyone think that is stolen??? be honest with you guys i have no idea why they blocked my phone... i send to service they conformed that the phone is blocked becouse it was stolen... on my question why they decided to block it after i was using it for 8 months they couldnt give me answere...
quuestion is what i can do about it if i bought phone on ebay??? i have all the detiles of transaction and they guy detiles, shall i go on the police station to say that they guy is selling stolen goods?
Relax man.
It is not your fault you bought an stolen device.
This things happen.However it is quite unpleasant to have your phone stolen.I think you would agree.
Since you can not use the phone you might as well give it back to the owner.
The phone was blocked probably because someone reported the phone to be stolen.The police will take the phone for sure, and maybe the seller from ebay did not know it was stolen.But who knows.
Did you get any documents,an invoice or something , when you got the phone on ebay?
Good luck.
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Relax man.
It is not your fault you bought an stolen device.
This things happen.However it is quite unpleasant to have your phone stolen.I think you would agree.
Since you can not use the phone you might as well give it back to the owner.
The phone was blocked probably because someone reported the phone to be stolen.The police will take the phone for sure, and maybe the seller from ebay did not know it was stolen.But who knows.
Did you get any documents,an invoice or something , when you got the phone on ebay?
Good luck.
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As stated above I would return device as it sounds like its stolen. I would also report it to ebay as you appear to have a legit case which should be investigated by them. If you have kept copies of ducoments/trasnactions etc you could also possibly get refunded
Well don't return it unless you get a refund first. If you paid by PayPal try to file a dispute and tell them it's a stolen phone. If they refund your money, you can either take the phone to a local carrier store and let them return it to the original owner, or just sell it on eBay yourself. If you don't get a refund, just sell it on eBay so you can recover your wasted money.
As far as taking it to another country, I don't think they'd be able to block it internationally, that doesn't really seem plausible.
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Well don't return it unless you get a refund first. If you paid by PayPal try to file a dispute and tell them it's a stolen phone. If they refund your money, you can either take the phone to a local carrier store and let them return it to the original owner, or just sell it on eBay yourself. If you don't get a refund, just sell it on eBay so you can recover your wasted money.
As far as taking it to another country, I don't think they'd be able to block it internationally, that doesn't really seem plausible.
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We DO NOT encourage people to sell stolen goods, this is fraud!!
Consider this first and last warning!!
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We DO NOT encourage people to sell stolen goods, this is fraud!!
Consider this first and last warning!!
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Sorry, I definitely don't support stealing or helping people steal. I'm just saying if there are no other options, he might as well sell it or else he's lost $600+ for nothing.
OK but still no answere for my question how came that someone (orange) blocking "stolen" phone after 8 months????
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OK but still no answere for my question how came that someone (orange) blocking "stolen" phone after 8 months????
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If it's stolen I'd assume it can be blocked indefinitely.
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OK but still no answere for my question how came that someone (orange) blocking "stolen" phone after 8 months????
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It's quite likely that the seller himself has reported the phone lost/stolen in order to make an insurance claim. It's even more likely if you bought it boxed and with the charger and all other bits. This is always a significant risk when buying a mobile phone from ebay. I suggest you contact the seller first of all and see what he says.
As people said here the right thing to do would be going to the police, which obviously means submitting the phone with no refund. And possibly helping to catch another thief (God knows we hate them!)
And if you go abroad (e.g. Poland) then yes your phone will work.
I sold a phone on Ebay to somebody in Cyprus.
The buyer claims he never received it and filed a claim, I lost 300 bucks and a mint HD2.
I found out the buyer now sold a similar phone on Ebay too, approx 3 or 4 weeks after I shipped mine. I was able to get my IMEI number from T-Mobile (very helpful, I was impressed).
Can I find out where my phone is ?
Buyer ID was " closedosier " now he changed to "gericy"
IMEI 357779030232175
Kinda sounds like they pulled a fast one on you and actually got the phone then sold it but told you they did not get the phone. Could T-Mobile not track it with the IMEI? I wish I knew of a definite way for you to track it via the IMEI. I did find this on Google though, here is the whole list Google pulled up. best of luck man.
Did you tell tmo to block the imei too while you were on with them? That's about all you can do, since its involving separate countries.the main prob with that is most countries have their own blacklists, so it may not do anything, but with a hint of luck the buyer gets it blocked and complains. You don't get it back but at least the seller loses out and gets a dodgy seller review.
Just gonna have to claim on your postal insurance, (please tell me you sent it "signed for",, if not,, well,, no comment)
TMobile cannot block it since it is not their phone anymore, I already asked, I have to file a Police Report.
I mailed it Priority with tracking, but it stops at when it leaves the USA, no tracking to Cyprus. Insurance was declined since USPS does not publicize well they don't have insurance for some countries, and guess what....Cyprus is one of them.
If the guy that bought the phone from by buyer/thief has actually my phone, I feel sorry for him too, he'll get a surprise very soon since the IMEI will be reported as stolen, and he'll get scammed.
Blimey, I think I'd go into the theft business too,, no proof of delivery?? Its a wonder anyone sends anything there at all!
All hail the British post office!
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Blimey, I think I'd go into the theft business too,, no proof of delivery?? Its a wonder anyone sends anything there at all!
All hail the British post office!
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Yeah it sounds like the person that bought/stole the HD2 knew of the no tracking and knew they could get away with it. That sucks that a world wide company like USPS can not do anything else for you. I think you should press the matter with USPS myself.
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I think you should press the matter with USPS myself.
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definitely....
USPS cannot do anything since there is no tracking and no insurance, I already went this route.
My only alternative, now that I have an IMEI is to file a theft report with the police dept. here then I can open a case with FBI and IC3 which are federal agencies working on international frauds.
I won't see my money back, but at least the phone will be listed as stolen, IMEI on blacklist, and will never be able to be registered.
I just feel sorry for whoever bought the phone from my buyer/thief
I won't see my money back, but at least the phone will be listed as stolen, IMEI on blacklist, and will never be able to be registered.
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Shame those blacklists aren't global, if it goes outside of Europe/us it will probably work. Most stolen phones end up in Africa or the middle/far east where they couldn't care less.
As for the new buyer, did you email him to let him know to check the imei? (I already pointed him in the direction of this thread, fingers crossed it will black list and he'll complain about the seller.)
Next time be sure to inform the buyer that there is no insurance offered and no refunds. I've sold an hd2 to a similar place where insurance wasn't offered and made sure to tell him this.
It's not your fault if it gets lost in the mail. You sent it.
Also, if they didn't like it. You could have easily sold it to someone else.
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I found out the new Ebay ID for the guy is gericy
Beware of this person.
Apparently this guy does not know what the law is. Guess what, after I posted this thread on XDA he contacted me begging to remove, and claimed the fact that he "forgot" the claim, and he was "away" for a while.
He doesn't understand he broke the law and he should be punished. Try to rob a bank then when the cops find you return the money and say I'm sorry, you still go to jail. This is exactly what he did.
He refunded the money to me after making him reverse the neg feedback he left on Ebay, but then I found out he uses different IDs, probably to avoid consequences.
To all out there be careful if you buy anything from gericy
Cool, result!
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Cool, result!
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Amen brother !! Don't underestimate the power of XDA !!!! It can catch thieves too.
Hah yea, shame it couldn't catch my burglar who took my xdaIIi and plasma telly. (tho it did get blocked so I assume it got thrown.)
AWESOME MAN!!!!
Glade you got your money back and keep pressing the issue. Dude should have to pay the consequences of his actions. Never under estimate the power of being persistence and the power of the internet.
Not sure you can do much other than what you already plan to do.
Also, I am not sure why would you risk sending your phone outside of US without the proof of delivery - $300 is $300 ... lot of money if you ask me...
Anyhow, best of luck and next time DO NOT SELL IT INTERNATIONALLY!
I need a staples receipt of a nexus 7 8gigs purchase made 16 days ago or less, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Help me.
Um... I don't want to impose on anything, but you will need the correct address, won't you? Don't you have to return it to the Staples you bought it at? If not, what about the Serial Numbers that are attached to the device? Will that matter? I mean, I worked in electronic retail before, Fry's Electronic if you know it, and we check the serial number of the device before we accept returns. So good luck with your request. Again, anything could have happened. There are plenty of pure reasons as to why you'd need this. I'm not trying to impose or anything.
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There are plenty of pure reasons as to why you'd need this. I'm not trying to impose or anything.
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You are better than me. I can't think of any reasons related to this request that don't involve theft from the merchant.
rmm200 said:
You are better than me. I can't think of any reasons related to this request that don't involve theft from the merchant.
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I swear this isn't theft, my tab has a defect, I don't have my receipt, the store needs a receipt for me to swap it out for a fresh one, this is manager + general manager approved.
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Um... I don't want to impose on anything, but you will need the correct address, won't you? Don't you have to return it to the Staples you bought it at? If not, what about the Serial Numbers that are attached to the device? Will that matter? I mean, I worked in electronic retail before, Fry's Electronic if you know it, and we check the serial number of the device before we accept returns. So good luck with your request. Again, anything could have happened. There are plenty of pure reasons as to why you'd need this. I'm not trying to impose or anything.
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It came from staples, its a legit product.
I've work in the retail business. The store can generate another receipt for you. It will be on their system. Tell them the date, time, or even just your name and the system will bring up the transaction.
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I swear this isn't theft, my tab has a defect, I don't have my receipt, the store needs a receipt for me to swap it out for a fresh one, this is manager + general manager approved.
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you shouldn't need a receipt from the store, all you need is proof of purchase - ie. bank or credit card statement/records
edit: just realized the OP is in the usa,,,, my post may not by of any use.
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I've work in the retail business. The store can generate another receipt for you. It will be on their system. Tell them the date, time, or even just your name and the system will bring up the transaction.
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yup
did you pay by card? thats even better as your statement from the bank showing the transaction can be used as proof of purchase in the uk, ive relied on that one a few times
ok, look in the uk if the product is faulty im sure you dont need a receipt as long as you can prove you bought the item in that store, has the sales-assistant or manager confrimed "remembering you" buying the tab? if they have already said they remember you coming in and buying , you shouldnt need the receipt for exchange of a faulty product.
im cursed i seem to always pickup the "less then right" one lol
i buy a motorbike millions others have bought ...my one wont go as fast.
buy a hd tv millions others have bought,..... it doesnt sound right.
buy a new phone....the battery wont charge.
and so on lol
edit: example bought a xbox original controller from "game" didnt work.....took it back no receipt, sales assistant said i paid cash had no receipt and couldnt get a refund as i coulda bought it anywhere......... i pointed to the box..and controller......both had "GAME" logos'.....lmao what a knob !!exchanged!!
The reason they're having a hard time doing this is because the 8 gig was discontinued and it keeps locking them out of the system with the older receipts :/
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I bought a brand new Samsung galaxy S5 from a guy that comes with the receipt. Everything seemed legit, but when I got home I figured out the phone is actually blacklisted. So I contacted VIRGIN MOBILE , they said they cannot help me even if I have the receipt because the guy probably didn't pay his bills or took the phone using someone else's identification. They told me the only way I can fix this issue is by hacking the phone. That's why I am here, I need your help to repair my IMEI number or at least suggest me what should I do.
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S5
Model: SM-G900W8
Android:4.4.2
Thank you!
I cannot believe a telecom provider recommended you to hack a phone, which is illegal and criminal btw.
No one will help you with your problem as these kind of discussions are forbidden on XDA.
I`am sorry you got scammed, file a police report against the guy that sold you the phone.
Its better that you remove this thread before one of the mods closes it.
Your recourse is against the seller who apparently defrauded you. As the poster above noted, this forum doesn't condone threads talking about manipulating IMEI numbers and if a moderator sees your post, no doubt the thread will be closed, etc, etc.
This is the wrong forum to talk about IMEI changes. As you've been a member since 2011 you should know that. Or would if you read even a handful of forum threads. Try to recover from the seller e.g. make a credit card dispute, Paypal claim, stop payment on your cheque, police report, etc as appropriate. If you are unable to recover from the seller, you may end up selling the phone for parts on Ebay or something.
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Your recourse is against the seller who apparently defrauded you. As the poster above noted, this forum doesn't condone threads talking about manipulating IMEI numbers and if a moderator sees your post, no doubt the thread will be closed, etc, etc.
This is the wrong forum to talk about IMEI changes. As you've been a member since 2011 you should know that. Or would if you read even a handful of forum threads. Try to recover from the seller e.g. make a credit card dispute, Paypal claim, stop payment on your cheque, police report, etc as appropriate. If you are unable to recover from the seller, you may end up selling the phone for parts on Ebay or something.
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Sellers of this kind only want cash mate, no receipts or official payments that reveils their identity.
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I bought a brand new Samsung galaxy S5 from a guy that comes with the receipt. Everything seemed legit, but when I got home I figured out the phone is actually blacklisted. So I contacted VIRGIN MOBILE , they said they cannot help me even if I have the receipt because the guy probably didn't pay his bills or took the phone using someone else's identification. They told me the only way I can fix this issue is by hacking the phone. That's why I am here, I need your help to repair my IMEI number or at least suggest me what should I do.
Phone: Samsung Galaxy S5
Model: SM-G900W8
Android:4.4.2
Thank you!
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Well Sir, two parts here....
1) I find it hard to believe a carrier would pass this type of information along, not saying they did not say this, but this is something not normal.
2) Additionally this is illegal, as in this is fraud. And if it was me I would take the device and receipt to the Carrier and explain to them your issue. If they want your business they will work with you, if what you say is true, on how you came about this device.
And with those two parts, this type of question/discussions of fraud are not allowed on XDA. Thread Closed and Thanks.
If I wipe the memory using the recovery mode, will I get rid of everything except the recovery software?
I want to get rid of every single file in phone, except the recovery mode.
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If I wipe the memory using the recovery mode, will I get rid of everything except the recovery software?
I want to get rid of every single file in phone, except the recovery mode.
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Using recovery mode returns phone to "clean ROM" status. Your data from internal card will be erased, installed apk's as well, however all data on external card will remain. However, the data can be (relatively easily) recovered... so if you're looking for something what would erase your phone, I'd recommend to perform erasing in recovery mode, then encrypting phone, filling it with several apks and random data and... re-erase it, with de-encryption.
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Using recovery mode returns phone to "clean ROM" status. Your data from internal card will be erased, installed apk's as well, however all data on external card will remain. However, the data can be (relatively easily) recovered... so if you're looking for something what would erase your phone, I'd recommend to perform erasing in recovery mode, then encrypting phone, filling it with several apks and random data and... re-erase it, with de-encryption.
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Look, there is this site that looks like ebay, but it is related to South America, and a seller is selling this device, this is a trustable seller, with more than 2700 sales and a 99% of positive feedback. But he said he would make no invoice for me, and I need the invoice to prove that I'm the new owner of the phone.
I'm worried if he track the phone after I receive it in home, so he may say it was stolen.
Here is the phone's page: produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-584770140-samsung-galaxy-s4-i9500-16gb-octacore-pronta-entrega-_JM
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Look, there is this site that looks like ebay, but it is related to South America, and a seller is selling this device, this is a trustable seller, with more than 2700 sales and a 99% of positive feedback. But he said he would make no invoice for me, and I need the invoice to prove that I'm the new owner of the phone.
I'm worried if he track the phone after I receive it in home, so he may say it was stolen.
Here is the phone's page: produto.mercadolivre.com.br/MLB-584770140-samsung-galaxy-s4-i9500-16gb-octacore-pronta-entrega-_JM
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DO NOT accept this phone. DO NOT buy it. You will have no evidence if the phone was stolen elsewhere in the world and is blocked in some countries. And: Yes, it MAY happen. Some gray zone guys are making the temporary fake IMEI tricks, which will return your phone to its original state as soon as you'd upgrade ROM. In such case, you will have a stolen by someone brick.
I have no idea how it looks in Brazil (unfortunately) but in the country where I live, invoice is legally required by law.
One more advice: require that the phone's IMEI shall be on the invoice (as it is printed on the box, it shall be not a problem for seller, right?).
Yeah, I asked 3 times, he refused the 3 times, I even said I'd pay for the invoice if I had to, and he refused. What should I do then to buy an used galaxy phone on the web?
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Yeah, I asked 3 times, he refused the 3 times, I even said I'd pay for the invoice if I had to, and he refused. What should I do then to buy an used galaxy phone on the web?
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Just use a reputable website that has strong buyer protections in place.
The problem with what your original post asked about wiping data is what it would not even remotely come close to protecting you from a stolen phone. The original owner doesn't,t need access to the device to kill the imei. The imei is already bad when he gives it to you.
And his refusal to provide the original imei on a written invoice makes this an OBVIOUS fraud.
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Just use a reputable website that has strong buyer protections in place.
The problem with what your original post asked about wiping data is what it would not even remotely come close to protecting you from a stolen phone. The original owner doesn't,t need access to the device to kill the imei. The imei is already bad when he gives it to you.
And his refusal to provide the original imei on a written invoice makes this an OBVIOUS fraud.
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I didn't even know that I had to ask for the IMEI to be inserted on the invoice, I only knew about that now in this topic. I found other two sellers on the same website, with the same product, they said they'd create the invoice and that it's fine, they will insert the IMEI on the invoice. The problem now is that their phones are only 250 - 300 bucks cheaper than the brand new, at least shipment is already included. You guys think I should buy it?
No. We do not think you should buy it.
Its $300 cheaper than anywhere else. There is a reason for that.
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No. We do not think you should buy it.
Its $300 cheaper than anywhere else. There is a reason for that.
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Why not? they already said they would make an invoice.
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Why not? they already said they would make an invoice.
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Its your money. Go ahead.
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Its your money. Go ahead.
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But you said I shouldnt. If he's going to make an invoice, why did you say that? There is gotta be a good reason, you're the expert here and I'm sure that the knowledge you have to share with us is really important, please say it.
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But you said I shouldnt. If he's going to make an invoice, why did you say that? There is gotta be a good reason, you're the expert here and I'm sure that the knowledge you have to share with us is really important, please say it.
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Its been said plenty in this thread.
The imei can be faked temporarily.
The imei can be totally legit but the phone can still be stolen. It might not even be reported stolen yet. One of the scams is to sell a phone, then report it stolen which gets the imei blocked, then get a new phone through insurance.
The phone is half the price of anyplace else you can find it! That is just not how the free market works. A price that low is suspicious.
Everything you have described about this raises red flags.
Unless the place you are buying it from has ironclad buyer protection policies that are verifiable, you are taking a big risk.
If you don't agree, I don't care. Its not my money. Its not my decision. I'm offering an honest opinion as a disinterested third party. If you buy it I hope it all works out for you. But the odds are much higher that its a scam than if you bought a slightly more expensive one that comes from a more established store.
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Its been said plenty in this thread.
The imei can be faked temporarily.
The imei can be totally legit but the phone can still be stolen. It might not even be reported stolen yet. One of the scams is to sell a phone, then report it stolen which gets the imei blocked, then get a new phone through insurance.
The phone is half the price of anyplace else you can find it! That is just not how the free market works. A price that low is suspicious.
Everything you have described about this raises red flags.
Unless the place you are buying it from has ironclad buyer protection policies that are verifiable, you are taking a big risk.
If you don't agree, I don't care. Its not my money. Its not my decision. I'm offering an honest opinion as a disinterested third party. If you buy it I hope it all works out for you. But the odds are much higher that its a scam than if you bought a slightly more expensive one that comes from a more established store.
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I got your point and I respect your opinion, but 955 is not the half of the price. The new one is 1300. Anyway, I'll buy the new one. Thx again for your help, I really appreciated it.