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best way to backup before factory reset

Hey there, i have my phone rooted, i have installed the OTA update, and i have slowly removed some bloat through titanium backup.
i am still experiencing quite a bit of lag, and want to factory reset my phone, then see if that helps. i want all my data to stay though, can i just back it all up through keis? or is there an easier way?

Dallenn said:
Hey there, i have my phone rooted, i have installed the OTA update, and i have slowly removed some bloat through titanium backup.
i am still experiencing quite a bit of lag, and want to factory reset my phone, then see if that helps. i want all my data to stay though, can i just back it all up through keis? or is there an easier way?
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I personally use Titanium Backup Pro (if you haven't bought Pro yet, it's totally worth it - it has saved my @$$ countless times!). I Haven't actually uninstalled any bloatware, but frozen plenty of it. This made it really, really easy to get the OTA installed - all I had to do was unfreeze the 3 magic APKs that let me install the OTA, and even kept the rest frozen. Re-froze when done with OTA.
I have two sets of Titanium Backup backups right now:
- A backup of all system apps plus data. I would never want to restore my system apps, unless I get bored and start modding stuff later. I figured I'd just snag a backup NOW in case it ever comes down to that - I'd be able to theoretically restore a single broken APK, or manually extract the apks out of the backup files later.
- A backup of all my user apps plus data. Be careful not to ever restore system app backups, even the "green" or "yellow" ones in TiBu. Rarely, you can get away with restoring these (like SMS, or WiFi access points, or sometimes even the System Settings), but it's usually asking for trouble. If you're going from the same ROM to the same ROM without any version change, it's usually "okay" to try. Otherwise, use extreme discretion and be prepared for weird behavior.
So to answer your question, I would recommend using Titanium Backup Pro to keep data backed up. If you're thorough and have the patience, you can effectively backup all of your data, individually, for all of your apps and your system settings. I'm actually planning on doing a data wipe for good measure (haven't done so yet since I got the OTA), and this is how I plan to restore all my data and settings.

[Q] 4.4.x ROM back to stock easily?

Hi all,
I'm wondering what the best way to flash the stock rooted ROM would be, in terms of keeping all my settings/data? I'm currently on Houstonn's PA 4.4.2 and I'd like to get a some more battery life out of the phone if possible.
Would titanium backup + restore app data be the best method? I know that usually restoring system data is a big no-no, but is there any way to get some system data on there without having to re-do everything?
Thanks!

Bump, any advice please?

2 things. One, why does the system data matter? There's almost nothing in common between 4.4.2 AOSP and 4.2.2 LG UI, and anything useful is already synced via Google. Second, that's a big negative even if you wanted to. Unless you want to bootloop like a pro, do NOT restore system data on a different Android API version. It's a bad idea normally but especially here. I personally use TB and just restore user apps + data. :good:

Koopa777 said:
2 things. One, why does the system data matter? There's almost nothing in common between 4.4.2 AOSP and 4.2.2 LG UI, and anything useful is already synced via Google. Second, that's a big negative even if you wanted to. Unless you want to bootloop like a pro, do NOT restore system data on a different Android API version. It's a bad idea normally but especially here. I personally use TB and just restore user apps + data. :good:
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Thanks for the response! I was thinking system data just for the usual tedium of wifi passcodes, brightness calibration, homescreen setup, etc.

Contacts lost

Hi, there's an issue I have with my Nexus 4. I originally was on franco kernel, and tried to flash a different kernel, and it was giving me a boot loop, so I reflashed franco, but wiped data too, not only dalvik and cache.
Now, the phone booted completely, but it's in a state where my contacts were close to 3-4 months ago, and going to Gmail, and restoring contacts from there does nothing, as on gmail it's also the same situation. Is there antyhing I can do?
Does it have anything to do with wiping data? Although I did this also while having custom roms, and contacts weren't suddenly deleted for no reason!
Thank you in advance!

Hi,
Yes it has to do with wiping data. Your contacts were in data partition, so when you wiped it you deleted everything within it! You have the contacts from 3-4 months ago because it was probably the last time your Google Account backed up it.
I don't see why when flashing custom ROMs and wiping data before you didn't face this problem, maybe it was backed up... I don't know about there, but here in Brazil contacts can also be saved on SIM card, but I'm unsure if newest android versions still support it, after all last time I used it was with my old X10 Mini Pro.
~Lord

XxLordxX said:
Hi,
Yes it has to do with wiping data. Your contacts were in data partition, so when you wiped it you deleted everything within it! You have the contacts from 3-4 months ago because it was probably the last time your Google Account backed up it.
I don't see why when flashing custom ROMs and wiping data before you didn't face this problem, maybe it was backed up... I don't know about there, but here in Brazil contacts can also be saved on SIM card, but I'm unsure if newest android versions still support it, after all last time I used it was with my old X10 Mini Pro.
~Lord
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Thanks for the reply. Long shot, but is there any way to recover the data?

unfortunately not if you don't have any backup (even from TWRP)

sinnerghost said:
Thanks for the reply. Long shot, but is there any way to recover the data?
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Hi,
Just like it was already stated, unless you have a backup somewhere, you can't recover this data.
~Lord
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Backup dilemma

I have a problem transferring all of my data to my replacement 6P. My charging port burnt up and broke the data connection. My phone will still charge though even though I do not trust it. My problem is that I cannot find a way to conveniently restore all apps and data to my replacement phone. ADB is not an option since the data lines are fried and all of the ADB over WiFi options I know of require me to set it up with the cable first. I am not rooted. My bootloader is currently locked. Native Android backup only has like 9 apps backed up and won't restore anything else but those 9 apps and my contacts. I cannot get the native back up to sync anything besides those 9 apps (not sure why this is happening). I could download all of my apps manually and use my NAS to transfer individual files but that will take forever. I want to lose as little data as possible. I do have an ADB backup from right before I updated to Nougat on the official release day so I might just have to lose a month of data (which isn't horrible but not ideal). Does anyone have any other suggestions besides manually reinstalling everything or using my old ADB backup?

AJZ12 said:
I have a problem transferring all of my data to my replacement 6P. My charging port burnt up and broke the data connection. My phone will still charge though even though I do not trust it. My problem is that I cannot find a way to conveniently restore all apps and data to my replacement phone. ADB is not an option since the data lines are fried and all of the ADB over WiFi options I know of require me to set it up with the cable first. I am not rooted. My bootloader is currently locked. Native Android backup only has like 9 apps backed up and won't restore anything else but those 9 apps and my contacts. I cannot get the native back up to sync anything besides those 9 apps (not sure why this is happening). I could download all of my apps manually and use my NAS to transfer individual files but that will take forever. I want to lose as little data as possible. I do have an ADB backup from right before I updated to Nougat on the official release day so I might just have to lose a month of data (which isn't horrible but not ideal). Does anyone have any other suggestions besides manually reinstalling everything or using my old ADB backup?
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I realize this doesn't really help you now, but you have articulated the best argument for rooting, as Titanium Backup would fix your issue. Second, what about TWRP and a nandroid? You don't need root but you do need an unlocked bootloader. Your only good option would be to manually reset up your apps IMHO.
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Lol. I know. This is the first device I haven't rooted and the only one that absolutely needs root. I was happy with stock on this so I never got around to it then when I did have time, I didn't want to restore everything after unlocking the bootloader. I'm the only one to blame for this. I just can't figure out why the native backup won't back anything up. If I could figure that out, I could easily solve this problem.
I can't unlock the bootloader without losing everything. Looks like I have a long day to look forward to tomorrow.

AJZ12 said:
Lol. I know. This is the first device I haven't rooted and the only one that absolutely needs root. I was happy with stock on this so I never got around to it then when I did have time, I didn't want to restore everything after unlocking the bootloader. I'm the only one to blame for this. I just can't figure out why the native backup won't back anything up. If I could figure that out, I could easily solve this problem.
I can't unlock the bootloader without losing everything. Looks like I have a long day to look forward to tomorrow.
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Google backup is OK for apps but your settings and data don't get backed up properly anyway. At this point just suck it up, unlock your new BL, custom recovery and root it, then set it up from scratch. After that you can have nandroid and TB app backups and be in good shape.
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Possible to copy app data from Oreo 6P to Nougat S8+?

So I bought a Galaxy S8+ (7.0) to replace my 6P (8.0), and I'm trying to copy my app data over. Not having any luck. Any suggestions for how to do it? The apps themselves are no big deal, I can download from the Play Store, but I want my data.
6P is still completely stock - locked bootloader, so I would have to erase it to root. This would defeat the purpose. If there is a way to do a complete backup, root, and restore so I could use TiBu that would be awesome.
I do have Google apps backup enabled, and I have a backup on Drive that I can find and see all my apps. However, according to this link you can't restore from a newer version of Android to an older one. It never gives me the option to restore when I add my Google account to the new phone, and I can't find a way to restore from Drive on the new phone, even though I can see all the apps in the backup. Downloading apps from the store doesn't restore their data either. I can't downgrade my 6P back to Nougat without root either.
I tried Helium Backup, but it just simply doesn't work. As evidenced by many comments on the Play Store it doesn't work on the 6P.
Am I just stuck? I would think there would be a better solution than this.

You tried helium backup this way I guess ???
https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-backup-and-restore-app-data-with-or-without-root
There are not many ways to do, you could try Holo or super backup.
That's why we root

coremania said:
You tried helium backup this way I guess ???
https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-backup-and-restore-app-data-with-or-without-root
There are not many ways to do, you could try Holo or super backup.
That's why we root
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The problem I am having with Helium backup is that it just doesn't seem to work. If I connect through port 5000 from my PC (PC download) and tell it to backup then it just sits there and says "waiting for [IP address]" and never comes back to save anything. If I try to backup to the device, it does a couple of different things - it comes up and asks for my device password (which I put in settings) and then it fills in the password for me, but then either the "Back Up My Data" is grayed out or it sits on that screen, fills in the password, and then the apps start cycling through while it is adding characters to the password, then it gets stuck and stops. I have to reboot the phone to reset the backup to try again. (It's not locked up, just Helium is stuck.)
I'll look into Holo and Super Backup.
Followup: No go on the others. It says Holo can only be used to restore to the same device, and Super Backup needs root to backup the app data.

Bad for you, I doubt there is way for you to backup with a locked bootloader if none of the apps are working.
The only way to root a phone without a patched boot.img (SuperSU and magisk) is to use kingroot, but I highly doubt this will work. Do yourself a favor and root your s8 to avoid this the next time.
https://consumingtech.com/install-kingroot-android-8-0-oreo-apk-app-for-android-mobile/
Try it, I never thought I would link something like that

Matthew Carson said:
So I bought a Galaxy S8+ (7.0) to replace my 6P (8.0), and I'm trying to copy my app data over. Not having any luck. Am I just stuck?
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Yes, pretty much. Google restore is decent in getting your new device close to where it was, but app data (especially for non-Google apps) can be a problem. Sometimes the app has a dedicated folder and you can try copying that over. This worked for me once long ago with WhatsApp before it had it's own backup capability. After the Google restore, exactly which apps are you needing saved data for? Someone may be able to chime in if it is a specific game or well known app. Now that root is available for S8+ you should do that asap before getting it all set up the way you want it. It's only painful one time, but then you will have access to TiBu and all the other "essential" root apps.

v12xke said:
Yes, pretty much. Google restore is decent in getting your new device close to where it was, but app data (especially for non-Google apps) can be a problem. Sometimes the app has a dedicated folder and you can try copying that over. This worked for me once long ago with WhatsApp before it had it's own backup capability. After the Google restore, exactly which apps are you needing saved data for? Someone may be able to chime in if it is a specific game or well known app. Now that root is available for S8+ you should do that asap before getting it all set up the way you want it. It's only painful one time, but then you will have access to TiBu and all the other "essential" root apps.
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The problem is that Google restore didn't work either since it was going from an Oreo device to a Nougat device. I didn't think backing up was a big deal since Google is supposed to handle it, but it's not doing me any good at all. I couldn't do a full restore from the phone, and when I reinstall apps from the Play Store it doesn't include the data. Most things have accounts so I can set it back up again, but all of my preferences and settings for every app are gone. I'm pretty much having to go through app by app and reconfigure everything. Plus I have lost high scores and low times for several games...
My only concern with rooting the S8+ is that I have seen that it makes Android Pay not work, and some people say the Play Store has issues. Is that true? I've just begun researching it.

Matthew Carson said:
...My only concern with rooting the S8+ is that I have seen that it makes Android Pay not work, and some people say the Play Store has issues. Is that true? I've just begun researching it.
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I'm afraid I can't be of much help because I don't use Android Pay or Samsung devices (except the Galaxy Nexus which was great) ...but both Pay and PlayStore seem to be working fine on most rooted devices. I have never had a PS issue due to my phone being rooted. I just know I won't be without root because the root apps I use are more important to me in every day use. It's up to the individual to decide whether root is right for them, or not. I suggest hanging out in the Sammy board here on XDA, read and ask questions until you know what you want to do. BUT what I said earlier is true and most will vouch for me... make the decision asap, because unlocking and rooting will require wiping the phone.
Edit: Side note... just found this article which doesn't help you, but it does raise a question: Did you initiate the restore during the initial setup process on the S8+ or afterwards? If afterwards, wiping the phone and trying Google restore again may work.

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