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Rooting and Backing up Phone

This is my first Android phone, so I'm not sure how the backing up procedure works. Is there a way to back up all settings and apps (including paid apps) so I can restore it afterward?
I've rooted my phone when I first got it, through the unrevoked v1 method. Updated when Sprint gave me the option. Found out I shouldn't have done that, as I lost root access. I've been reading threads on how to set my EVO back to stock and hopefully this will restore everything. Thereby also being able to root once again.
If it means, I can root which method is recommended to also receive the latest updates.
I hope that I didn't lose root access for good.

Also curious, don't want to have to reinstall all the apps and lose the paid ones.

This has been a big question for me too.
Never rooted or modded a phone at all until yesterday, just made my first post here a minute ago.
I rooted and unlocked nand with simpleroot, then installed the damagecontrol rom, everything went ok. Got a lot of help by watching the video links. The biggest thing I was after was the wireless tether, which I have now. I've flashed the rom a couple time since and loose all my apps, contacts, and history every time. I get the contacts back easy through google sync. The apps I have been able to reinstall, the market has remembered my paid apps and lets me re-install no problem. This is still a hassle though. After doing some reading it seems people are using Titanium backup for the apps, and handy backup for the call history. I just installed and backed up everything, haven't tested out the restore yet.

best way to backup before factory reset

Hey there, i have my phone rooted, i have installed the OTA update, and i have slowly removed some bloat through titanium backup.
i am still experiencing quite a bit of lag, and want to factory reset my phone, then see if that helps. i want all my data to stay though, can i just back it all up through keis? or is there an easier way?

Dallenn said:
Hey there, i have my phone rooted, i have installed the OTA update, and i have slowly removed some bloat through titanium backup.
i am still experiencing quite a bit of lag, and want to factory reset my phone, then see if that helps. i want all my data to stay though, can i just back it all up through keis? or is there an easier way?
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I personally use Titanium Backup Pro (if you haven't bought Pro yet, it's totally worth it - it has saved my @$$ countless times!). I Haven't actually uninstalled any bloatware, but frozen plenty of it. This made it really, really easy to get the OTA installed - all I had to do was unfreeze the 3 magic APKs that let me install the OTA, and even kept the rest frozen. Re-froze when done with OTA.
I have two sets of Titanium Backup backups right now:
- A backup of all system apps plus data. I would never want to restore my system apps, unless I get bored and start modding stuff later. I figured I'd just snag a backup NOW in case it ever comes down to that - I'd be able to theoretically restore a single broken APK, or manually extract the apks out of the backup files later.
- A backup of all my user apps plus data. Be careful not to ever restore system app backups, even the "green" or "yellow" ones in TiBu. Rarely, you can get away with restoring these (like SMS, or WiFi access points, or sometimes even the System Settings), but it's usually asking for trouble. If you're going from the same ROM to the same ROM without any version change, it's usually "okay" to try. Otherwise, use extreme discretion and be prepared for weird behavior.
So to answer your question, I would recommend using Titanium Backup Pro to keep data backed up. If you're thorough and have the patience, you can effectively backup all of your data, individually, for all of your apps and your system settings. I'm actually planning on doing a data wipe for good measure (haven't done so yet since I got the OTA), and this is how I plan to restore all my data and settings.

[Q] Got Lollipop, don't got WiFi

I installed Lollipop 5.0 with Odin and had no problems with the process. However, WiFi no longer starts up. That is, I can't turn WiFi on from Settings or anywhere else. What's really strange, though, is I can create a FoxFi hotspot and it works as expected, supporting a Nexus 7 WiFi-only tablet.
How do I revive WiFi support?

Did you factory reset after updating to LP ?
Always a good idea

I'd really rather not. The recovery process from an FDR is never fun.
What puzzles me is that FoxFi works. Thinking it might be a backdoor, I started FoxFi then tried to start WiFi. I got the expected "you can't have FoxFi and WiFi" message. I said OK, FoxFi shut down and... no WiFi. V. Weird.

I know it's a PITA to reset, but upgrading from KK to LP leaves rubbish files behind that cause all sorts of weird bugs, I had to reset when I upgraded thanks to battery drain, after the reset, battery drain was cured, and all LP updates since then have not needed a reset, it is purely moving from an older Android version > Newer Android

Sigh... I soooooooo hate doing this. And, yes, I want crackers and cheese with that whine.
Stupid n00b question: Before I blow everything away with the FDR, what's the best way to preserve all of my photos, and other app data? FWIW, before I started this project, I used Titanium to back up everything it knows about, but IIRC it doesn't anything photos, music, etc., etc.
I suppose I can just do a drag and drop of the phone legacy "SD" and stuff it all back in again after the FDR. Or doesn't that fly?

RBEmerson said:
Sigh... I soooooooo hate doing this. And, yes, I want crackers and cheese with that whine.
Stupid n00b question: Before I blow everything away with the FDR, what's the best way to preserve all of my photos, and other app data? FWIW, before I started this project, I used Titanium to back up everything it knows about, but IIRC it doesn't anything photos, music, etc., etc.
I suppose I can just do a drag and drop of the phone legacy "SD" and stuff it all back in again after the FDR. Or doesn't that fly?
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If you were rooted, and had a custom recovery, you could use that to backup your DATA partition, and restore it later, but yea, definitely backup your photos and vids to PC before doing anything, apps and stuff can be reinstalled, not great losing photos
Titanium backup is great for apps and data, not sure about photos and other user files that I know of, it's been years since I used it last

This gets worse and worse. In hopes of reviving WiFi and root, I went back to 4.4.4. And soft-bricked the phone.
Reverting to 5.0 undid the soft bricking but now I'm back to no WiFi.
At the moment, since I now have access to the data, photos, etc., I'm moving all of them out of harm's way. From there I guess I'm condemned to doing a FDR, installing 4.4.4, rooting, and trying to retain root as I go into 5.0. Damn VZW for making this so hard. [/Snarl]

Mostly out of desperation, I tried going back to 4.4.2 (NCG, not NE9), where the phone was when I started. Once again the phone is soft-bricked. What is going on here??? I'm using the files from Sammobile (forked over €7.50 to get things done somewhat faster...).
Under 5.0, at least I can read much of what I need to save, but things like wpa_supplicant.conf are closed to me because of I can't root the S5 under 5.0. Or can I?? If so, I'd be home free. D/l all the files I want to preserve, do an FDR, use Ti or Helium (I'm trying both) to restore much of the stuff lost in an FDR, and move forward from there.

Yea you can root lollipop with CF Auto Root, but it will trip KNOX

This project is driving me insane!
KitKat soft-bricks the phone, making any backup impossible, making rooting impossible, all under 4.n.n. 5.0 almost works except for the Settings flavor of WiFI (FoxFi works as expected, trying to revert to "normal" WiFi from FoxFi doesn't work).
Rooting under 5.0 will trip Knox. Maybe I'm being silly about that, but I'd like avoid that. I've had the phone about a year, so maybe I should just build a bridge, etc.
Meanwhile, in trying to set up to FDR, I went to Helium (Carbon as was) Pro to put the backup in Google Drive. Why? Because any internal backup ground to a halt at Titanium (37 of 87 backed up by Helium's accounting). Thinking I was hitting a space issue (not enough room for a full internally stored backup), I moved to Pro to store the backup off the machine (whyinhell doesn't Helium let you use the PC needed to enable Helium in the first place???). And that backup also ground to a halt at Ti. ARGH!!!!

OK, I fixed the Helium issue. For some reason, Helium refuses to backup Titanium. Is this hating because clockmod doesn't like Ti or is this one of life's very weird coincidences? Either way, I have 85 of 87 possible apps covered. The rest I can revive some other way without too much pain.
So I guess an FDR is coming soon...
I spoke too soon. Since I tinkered around a bit with trying to see if Helium keeps multiple date and time stamped backups (it doesn't! what's up with that??) I decided to do another full backup (less Ti, of course). and the backup ground to a halt at item 37 of 85 items. Yes, item 37, whatever it is, is a toxic item. What a crock! Worse, I'm out of the refund period for Pro. Dis sux.

OK, the FDR woke up WiFi and left me in 5.0. Now to try to regress to NCG...

I think this ends the thread. I got 5.0 running with WiFi but no root - FDR did the trick. I used Odin to put in 4.4.2 NCG and seemed to be soft-bricked. I used the bootloader(?) to do an FDR on the 4.4.2 install and that cleared up the soft-brick. 4.4.2 is now rooted with towelroot. If I have things right, I can get from a rooted 4.4.n to 5.0 and keep root without changing 0x0. We'll see if that's true... Meanwhile, for this thread, I'm out.

Nexus Imprint Issues After Nandroid Backup Restore

Has anyone had issues setting up Imprint after importing a nandroid backup?
I had to RMA my 6P due to a faulty charging port and I can successfully set up Imprint in the factory state, however, after I import the backup, it won't allow me to set it up.
I've tried to do just a data import, a full nandroid import...pretty much every single option and constantly reflashing to stock to retry. I'm at a loss because it's definitely not a hardware problem as I can set it up during stock.
As soon as I click next to train my fingerprints, it flashes: "Enrollment was not completed. Fingerprint enrollment didn't work. Try again or use a different finger."
Has anyone ever run into this issue? Thanks for your help!

Never and I mean never restore a nandroid from one device to another. There are device specific files in that nandroid. Just hope you didn't kill your efs partition which kills your IMEI and in turn makes it not connect to any network.

RaysBucsBolts said:
Has anyone had issues setting up Imprint after importing a nandroid backup?
I had to RMA my 6P due to a faulty charging port and I can successfully set up Imprint in the factory state, however, after I import the backup, it won't allow me to set it up.
I've tried to do just a data import, a full nandroid import...pretty much every single option and constantly reflashing to stock to retry. I'm at a loss because it's definitely not a hardware problem as I can set it up during stock.
As soon as I click next to train my fingerprints, it flashes: "Enrollment was not completed. Fingerprint enrollment didn't work. Try again or use a different finger."
Has anyone ever run into this issue? Thanks for your help!
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As already stated you should never restore a backup from a different device. If you had a pin and fingerprint setup when you made the backup then it will not restore properly on any device. A thread has been pinned in the general section about TWRP'S issues with lockscreen security and backups.

If you can get into adb try this after restoring:
rm /data/system/locksettings.db
rm /data/system/*.key
If this doesnt work, go to twrp file manager and manually delete the files.
As mentioned above, before backing up you should always remove security.

It was mentioned in the TWRP thread that you should NEVER make a Nandroid Backup before disabling the fingerprint and swipe gestures. If you did a Nandroid Backup without having removed the security options first, you won´t be able to use it.

I am having the same issue after getting my new phone and trying to do the same thing. Each device seems to have some kind of Sensor ID or something else that stops the scanner from working. check out the reddit thread and this other thread on xda...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3vjkq3/q_nandroid_from_6p_to_6p_which_partitions_to/cxqfcl1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/fingerprint-hardware-unavailable-t3274436
seems everyone has the same issue. No fix as of yet but twrp will work to restore all of your data including your android id from a nandroid im pretty sure

jerflash said:
I am having the same issue after getting my new phone and trying to do the same thing. Each device seems to have some kind of Sensor ID or something else that stops the scanner from working. check out the reddit thread and this other thread on xda...
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/co...oid_from_6p_to_6p_which_partitions_to/cxqfcl1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/help/fingerprint-hardware-unavailable-t3274436
seems everyone has the same issue. No fix as of yet but twrp will work to restore all of your data including your android id from a nandroid im pretty sure
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Of course each one has its own ID.
This is not what Nandroids are for. Restoring this way you risk ruining your imei which then requires you to get a new device which warranty will not cover. So come on guys stop being lazy and do things properly. If you mess up your device then you have no else to blame but yourself.
And we wonder why OEM/Google are locking devices down.

zelendel said:
Of course each one has its own ID.
This is not what Nandroids are for. Restoring this way you risk ruining your imei which then requires you to get a new device which warranty will not cover. So come on guys stop being lazy and do things properly. If you mess up your device then you have no else to blame but yourself.
And we wonder why OEM/Google are locking devices down.
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I would never tell anyone to restore EFS between two different devices! That could really mess things up. What we are talking about here is restoring the "Userdata" backup between two devices which can be safe if you know what you are doing...(I have done it for years without issue.) problem comes form there must be something hidden inside the userdata that stops you from restoring and using the fingerprint reader. Its actually a good feature for most if not a high level user.
I'm sure there will be a work around soon enough

jerflash said:
I would never tell anyone to restore EFS between two different devices! That could really mess things up. What we are talking about here is restoring the "Userdata" backup between two devices which can be safe if you know what you are doing...(I have done it for years without issue.) problem comes form there must be something hidden inside the userdata that stops you from restoring and using the fingerprint reader. Its actually a good feature for most if not a high level user.
I'm sure there will be a work around soon enough
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More and more apps are not storing their info into data partition.
Wouldn't count on a work around. With the new Qualcomm security settings many oem are really looking at doing it like the BB android device which can't even be rooted.

Did you find a solution guys? I have same problem.

Tell you the truth guys... just use helium, then factory reset. let google re-add everything and for what does not use helium. i did this and it works for most things. not very annoying at all

Possible to copy app data from Oreo 6P to Nougat S8+?

So I bought a Galaxy S8+ (7.0) to replace my 6P (8.0), and I'm trying to copy my app data over. Not having any luck. Any suggestions for how to do it? The apps themselves are no big deal, I can download from the Play Store, but I want my data.
6P is still completely stock - locked bootloader, so I would have to erase it to root. This would defeat the purpose. If there is a way to do a complete backup, root, and restore so I could use TiBu that would be awesome.
I do have Google apps backup enabled, and I have a backup on Drive that I can find and see all my apps. However, according to this link you can't restore from a newer version of Android to an older one. It never gives me the option to restore when I add my Google account to the new phone, and I can't find a way to restore from Drive on the new phone, even though I can see all the apps in the backup. Downloading apps from the store doesn't restore their data either. I can't downgrade my 6P back to Nougat without root either.
I tried Helium Backup, but it just simply doesn't work. As evidenced by many comments on the Play Store it doesn't work on the 6P.
Am I just stuck? I would think there would be a better solution than this.

You tried helium backup this way I guess ???
https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-backup-and-restore-app-data-with-or-without-root
There are not many ways to do, you could try Holo or super backup.
That's why we root

coremania said:
You tried helium backup this way I guess ???
https://www.androidpit.com/how-to-backup-and-restore-app-data-with-or-without-root
There are not many ways to do, you could try Holo or super backup.
That's why we root
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The problem I am having with Helium backup is that it just doesn't seem to work. If I connect through port 5000 from my PC (PC download) and tell it to backup then it just sits there and says "waiting for [IP address]" and never comes back to save anything. If I try to backup to the device, it does a couple of different things - it comes up and asks for my device password (which I put in settings) and then it fills in the password for me, but then either the "Back Up My Data" is grayed out or it sits on that screen, fills in the password, and then the apps start cycling through while it is adding characters to the password, then it gets stuck and stops. I have to reboot the phone to reset the backup to try again. (It's not locked up, just Helium is stuck.)
I'll look into Holo and Super Backup.
Followup: No go on the others. It says Holo can only be used to restore to the same device, and Super Backup needs root to backup the app data.

Bad for you, I doubt there is way for you to backup with a locked bootloader if none of the apps are working.
The only way to root a phone without a patched boot.img (SuperSU and magisk) is to use kingroot, but I highly doubt this will work. Do yourself a favor and root your s8 to avoid this the next time.
https://consumingtech.com/install-kingroot-android-8-0-oreo-apk-app-for-android-mobile/
Try it, I never thought I would link something like that

Matthew Carson said:
So I bought a Galaxy S8+ (7.0) to replace my 6P (8.0), and I'm trying to copy my app data over. Not having any luck. Am I just stuck?
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Yes, pretty much. Google restore is decent in getting your new device close to where it was, but app data (especially for non-Google apps) can be a problem. Sometimes the app has a dedicated folder and you can try copying that over. This worked for me once long ago with WhatsApp before it had it's own backup capability. After the Google restore, exactly which apps are you needing saved data for? Someone may be able to chime in if it is a specific game or well known app. Now that root is available for S8+ you should do that asap before getting it all set up the way you want it. It's only painful one time, but then you will have access to TiBu and all the other "essential" root apps.

v12xke said:
Yes, pretty much. Google restore is decent in getting your new device close to where it was, but app data (especially for non-Google apps) can be a problem. Sometimes the app has a dedicated folder and you can try copying that over. This worked for me once long ago with WhatsApp before it had it's own backup capability. After the Google restore, exactly which apps are you needing saved data for? Someone may be able to chime in if it is a specific game or well known app. Now that root is available for S8+ you should do that asap before getting it all set up the way you want it. It's only painful one time, but then you will have access to TiBu and all the other "essential" root apps.
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The problem is that Google restore didn't work either since it was going from an Oreo device to a Nougat device. I didn't think backing up was a big deal since Google is supposed to handle it, but it's not doing me any good at all. I couldn't do a full restore from the phone, and when I reinstall apps from the Play Store it doesn't include the data. Most things have accounts so I can set it back up again, but all of my preferences and settings for every app are gone. I'm pretty much having to go through app by app and reconfigure everything. Plus I have lost high scores and low times for several games...
My only concern with rooting the S8+ is that I have seen that it makes Android Pay not work, and some people say the Play Store has issues. Is that true? I've just begun researching it.

Matthew Carson said:
...My only concern with rooting the S8+ is that I have seen that it makes Android Pay not work, and some people say the Play Store has issues. Is that true? I've just begun researching it.
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I'm afraid I can't be of much help because I don't use Android Pay or Samsung devices (except the Galaxy Nexus which was great) ...but both Pay and PlayStore seem to be working fine on most rooted devices. I have never had a PS issue due to my phone being rooted. I just know I won't be without root because the root apps I use are more important to me in every day use. It's up to the individual to decide whether root is right for them, or not. I suggest hanging out in the Sammy board here on XDA, read and ask questions until you know what you want to do. BUT what I said earlier is true and most will vouch for me... make the decision asap, because unlocking and rooting will require wiping the phone.
Edit: Side note... just found this article which doesn't help you, but it does raise a question: Did you initiate the restore during the initial setup process on the S8+ or afterwards? If afterwards, wiping the phone and trying Google restore again may work.

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