So Xfinity is transitioning all of their public hotspots to 5ghz frequency wifi.. the motive behind this is pretty obvious (they want to keep low end and older model phones off their public network..with them now functioning as a wireless provider, people using out of service and/or low end phones as "wifi phones" cuts into their business.)
Obviously this doesn't really effect users that have active data plans or users that have a relatively new and/or high end phone, but for the other 80% of us this essentially makes a great deal of our "technological arsenal", which could be used as wifi repeaters, music players, security cameras, and so much more, essentially obsolete.
So to circumvent this all you really need is one phone that is 5ghz frequency capable (most newer phones, most Motorolas and Samsungs and pretty much every not super crappy LG phone can do so.) You also need an app called "netshare" (if your 5ghz compatible phone is rooted then I'd recommend "netshare+" as it allows one to reshare the wifi without any proxy forwarding assuming you have active Xfinity credentials), and your also need psiphon pro on all the phones receiving the wifi signal (unless your 5ghz phone is rooted, using netshare+, and is signed into Xfinity hotspots with a valid Xfinity account.). If you won't be using anything but chrome itself then you can get by without psiphon.. but generally speaking most people will use messenger and YouTube and whatever else so, if/when you establish a connection on your receiving devices go ahead and download psiphon.
Once you're connected with an LG or Samsung sometimes depending on model you can simply set your hotspot to reshare the wifi connection (and of course set the band to 2.4ghz), but not every model supports this. (If yours does, congratulations. You're finished), however if it won't allow you to use your hotspot without a sim card or whatever, simply open netshare. Go-to configure name/password or something of the sort. Some models will allow you to change the frequency to 2.4ghz here. If it doesn't (Motorola devices generally don't) simply open wifi direct in advanced options in wifi and connect your 5ghz phone to a receiving 2.4ghz.. just long enough to open netshare and share your wifi signal(this will force it to 2.4ghz, rather than the 5ghz default it would be if not already connected with a 2.4ghz). Once netshare is on and sharing your wifi connection go back to wifi direct settings and end the connection with the 2.4ghz device.. then reconnect as you would any other wifi network
DIRECT-WHATEVER-THE-NETWORK
RanDOM8S
etc..
But be sure to go-to advanced options, proxy settings, change to Manuel.
Proxy hostname "192.168.49.1"
Proxy port "8282"
All without the quotes obviously.
Now you should be able to browse on chrome. If you haven't already, download psiphon pro, and go-to options Proxy settings. Connect through http proxy. Host address "192.168.49.1"
Port "8282".
Then connect. Your receiving devices should now be connected (through your 5ghz phone of course, using it as a hub), and most of your apps working as long as psiphon is on and connected properly.
(This is my first tutorial so please go easy on me. Obviously constructive critique bus appreciated, but please go easy on me fellows.. I'm a bit of a newbie..lol)
And I plan on adding pictures and revising later on depending on wording and whatnot.. but I wanted to at least release a preliminary method of connecting to the newer 5ghz hotspots.. because about a month ago I know I could've used it.. even if it wasn't refined.. anyways thanks for reading, and good luck compadres!!
A very useful and understandable tutorial, this is exactly what I was looking for, because I have a rather old phone model.
Thanks for the useful tutorial! The fastest speeds from Xfinity are available to almost all customers, as opposed to just customers within reach of a 5G tower.
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My University does not allow Wi-Fi in the dorms because they say it "puts a strain on the network". This includes Mifi's and mobile hotspots.
I have OS X Lion and Windows 8 (Dev Preview) through BootCamp and I get internet through ethernet. I need some way to share internet access from my MacBook Pro to my A500. I also have a rooted Samsung Fascinate, but I cannot Tether at all with it because a. I dont have enough data a month to do that, nor do I have the money and b. the root apps give errors no matter what rom I run.
Buy a wireless router and passcode it.
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Were are not even allowed to have that.
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Were are not even allowed to have that.
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If your major has anything to do with IT look into another school.
At least if they are not providing their own wireless network and that is the only reason they don't want you to have one.. otherwise the reason you provided is fud if you had a personal nated + wpa 2 protected + hidden network..
Otherwise:
The A500 cannot reverse tether without root. With root you can sorta do it via a root shell and linux commands.. You end up with a connection but many apps think there is none, fine for me surfing the web on the bus but you can't use market and apps wont auto sync.
Some custom firmwares based off the Asus and other android tablets with the same chip set do have true working Bluetooth tether. Thus may fill your needs better.
(Actually I see partial support for Bluetooth tether built into the 3.2 update, but forcing it enabled made the tablet crash, and still needed root to force the option to exist)
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Were are not even allowed to have that.
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Hide it under your bed lol
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Hide it under your bed lol
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Nah, may also need to disable your essid and clone your desktops Mac address.. otherwise it may disable the Ethernet Jack.
All wireless routers ive seen can do this out of box.. even if I like updating them with openwrt firmware.
can your Mac provide an adhock network?
When my friends router shat itself all he had was a adsl modem with eather net out. He set up his I Mac's wifi so that his iPhone could connect to it (over wifi) in the house. He had lously cell connection where he lived.
Can you do some thing like that and get your tab to connect to your comp? Or am I not understanding the problem?
Good luck.
OP,
Well you are kind of screwed - soft of.
It is the schools network. They can dictate what they want on "their" network. And even if you hid it, etc they still can see what it plugged in.
But they can't tell you that you can't have WIFI at all. WIFI runs on 2.4 Ghz for B/G/N and 5.0 Ghz for A/N bands that is unlicensed frequencies. So if you have a some other Internet connection, ie 3rd party like DSL, Road Runner, whatever, they can't tell you that you can't use WIFI. They can only control their network.
The reason I mention this is because I have seen WIFI Nazi's out there trying to be all macho even when it isn't their network. You might be fortunate enough to have WIFI in the area that you can use, say a friends close by that has commercial ISP and wireless. Also possible to use DD-WRT to put a router in client mode to pick up a signal farther out and and a 2nd router to broadcast that signal in your room.
Hi Guys,
Firstly, I hope this is posted in the correct section.
Secondly, My name is Mark, and I've followed this site/forum for a few years now, and have successfully rooted 2 old phones (HTC Nexus One & HTC One S) thanks to all the information and guides right here on xda-developers.
Thirdly, is my issue: (the back-story) [tried, tested & failed alternatives]
At work, we've recently invested in a WiFi Internet Radio, to take advantage of the tens of thousands of stations compared to the 20 or so offered on DAB/FM. Getting it connected to the internet however has been a struggle.
The offices Wired & Wireless LAN networks are locked by a pin, which nobody knows, or will give out, this network is for official business use only, by the companies own equipment. Also network tabs in the computers control panel are blocked, so these pins are completely unobtainable. There is a WiFi hotspot nearby, this is setup and ran by "The Cloud" (aka Sky). When we try to connect to this network directly from the radio, it asks for a pin, however to use these hot spots you have to register a username & password on a browser to be granted access, again, not possible with the radio. 3G/4G is very limited in the building due to the location of the building, and (we think) a chrome window tint that runs all the way around the building, We've tried, the radio can find and connect to the phone, but the phone can't connect to the internet via 3g. Even if 3g was good, it'd be very data consuming to be running radio over portable WiFi hotspot for 52 hours a week.
So what I want to do, if it's possible, is to share my WiFi connection (to the hotspot) over WiFi or USB (to the radio), using my phone as a WiFi repeater/modem in between. Or perhaps there's another alternative I've missed? I'm not overly sure on the ins and outs of usb modems and other networking hardware.
The phone is a Sony Xperia Z2 (currently not rooted, but willing to root if needs be to make this work)
The radio is a Roberts Stream 93i (has WiFi, ethernet & USB)
And in case anyone mentions, there is a STRICT ban on phones, ipods (and anything that connects to the internet) due to the confidential nature of our work, if this wasn't the case we'd just of bought a pair of speakers and streamed the internet radio on our phones.
Thanks for your help, I've been searching high & low for 3 straight days now!
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Hi Guys,
Firstly, I hope this is posted in the correct section.
Secondly, My name is Mark, and I've followed this site/forum for a few years now, and have successfully rooted 2 old phones (HTC Nexus One & HTC One S) thanks to all the information and guides right here on xda-developers.
Thirdly, is my issue: (the back-story) [tried, tested & failed alternatives]
At work, we've recently invested in a WiFi Internet Radio, to take advantage of the tens of thousands of stations compared to the 20 or so offered on DAB/FM. Getting it connected to the internet however has been a struggle.
The offices Wired & Wireless LAN networks are locked by a pin, which nobody knows, or will give out, this network is for official business use only, by the companies own equipment. Also network tabs in the computers control panel are blocked, so these pins are completely unobtainable. There is a WiFi hotspot nearby, this is setup and ran by "The Cloud" (aka Sky). When we try to connect to this network directly from the radio, it asks for a pin, however to use these hot spots you have to register a username & password on a browser to be granted access, again, not possible with the radio. 3G/4G is very limited in the building due to the location of the building, and (we think) a chrome window tint that runs all the way around the building, We've tried, the radio can find and connect to the phone, but the phone can't connect to the internet via 3g. Even if 3g was good, it'd be very data consuming to be running radio over portable WiFi hotspot for 52 hours a week.
So what I want to do, if it's possible, is to share my WiFi connection (to the hotspot) over WiFi or USB (to the radio), using my phone as a WiFi repeater/modem in between. Or perhaps there's another alternative I've missed? I'm not overly sure on the ins and outs of usb modems and other networking hardware.
The phone is a Sony Xperia Z2 (currently not rooted, but willing to root if needs be to make this work)
The radio is a Roberts Stream 93i (has WiFi, ethernet & USB)
And in case anyone mentions, there is a STRICT ban on phones, ipods (and anything that connects to the internet) due to the confidential nature of our work, if this wasn't the case we'd just of bought a pair of speakers and streamed the internet radio on our phones.
Thanks for your help, I've been searching high & low for 3 straight days now!
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is the radio for the employees to enjoy, or is it being hooked into the building for customer/clients?
if it could be considered to the benefit of customers/clients, just get in touch with IT and see if they have a solution for you. (creating an exception on the netowrk for the radio, maybe?)
If you are simply trying to fly under the radar, and get the thing running, then it sounds like you might be out of luck.
so, you are saying plugging it into an ethernet port, it won't obtain access to the net?
plugging it into a known working port, it also won't work?
you could, try bringing in your own wifi router, plugging that into an open ethernet port (wan) and then see if it grabs net through that.
as i read your previous post, it leads me to believe that there is a PIN you need to input for WIFI & LAN... kind of strange for LAN
Hi folks,
I have two Nexus players at home. When I first got the initial one, I had it setup on my 2.4G network (network connectivity was very strong so it did not matter). Recently, I upgraded my router that supports 802.11AC (2400mbps). Since the router was further out and since AC provides a better streaming experience, I added the 5G network as well. It turned out that it was still connecting to my 2.4G network (based purely on signal strength, I assume, which is absurd). So I had it "forget" the 2.4G connection. The next day, I had my replacement for the Nexus player (had a issue with the remote but they sent me the whole thing anyway) and bought a second Nexus player. I logged in with the same account that I had used and surprisingly both of them were logging onto my 2.4G network without even asking. It left me puzzled. I tried "forgetting" the network and it did not work. I tried intentionally giving a "bad" password and that did not work either (i.e. the second option at least kind of worked for one full day where it did not connect to the 2.4G connection). I have since done a factory reset with two options. A) re-login with the same account and B) login with a different account. Not too surprisingly, option (A) allows me to "connect" to the 2.4G connection whereas (B) does not.
I have since tried to figure out where this password is saved and I cannot seem to find it. The only logical way for me to NOT connect is to turn off the 2.4G connection (which is not possible because some of my devices still do not support 5G) or rename the connection (logistical issue but can be done). My concern is "WHERE IS MY PASSWORD SAVED AND WHY AM I NOT ABLE TO DELETE IT AS I WOULD ON ANOTHER DEVICE"
I called Nexus support (they are practically useless unless you are requesting a replacement) and I got the following (no I am not kidding, these were literally the things that they told me):
1. "The Nexus player has no GUI". I refuted this claim and explained that the device was fully self-sustained in that it did not require a phone to be its alibi and that a network can be "forgotten"
2. "The Nexus player has no firmware". I again respectfully refuted this claim as well but it was getting a little hilarious because I really thought she said "no GUI" to imply something else. To this, the rep said (and in a very authoritative tone), GIVE ME THE ADDRESS OF THE FIRMWARE. I explained that all firmware does not have to have an IP address (I work at a company that makes hardware and specifically work on the DSP which has no direct access or IP address except via a host processor). I then asked "Can you do a software update on the device" and she responded "I don't know" and then went on to say the following
3. "THE NEXUS PLAYER HAS NO OS!". SHE LITERALLY SAID THAT.
At no point in time was she did even accept that the password was saved "somewhere" in the cloud and was attached to my google account that I had no access to which I believe is very creepy (because now I do not know what other information is "stored"). Then she said "let me send you to speak to the manufacturer because we have nothing to do with this device" or something to that effect!
I am curious if anyone of you can try this out and tell me if the player continues to connect to a network that you ask to be forgotten. I am curious also what you think about the issue.
Saving WiFi passwords to your Google account is a standard feature of Google's Backup & Restore, if you have this enabled. The option to disable this doesn't seem to be exposed by the Android TV UI, though.
And that support conversation was hilarious
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Saving WiFi passwords to your Google account is a standard feature of Google's Backup & Restore, if you have this enabled. The option to disable this doesn't seem to be exposed by the Android TV UI, though.
And that support conversation was hilarious
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That is precisely my point as well. When information that pertains to me is stored, I need to have the option (within reason) of being able to delete it. When such an option is being provided on their Android devices, they only have 2 options on the Nexus player. Save it on the device and a factory reset removes it OR allow the option to delete such info. Not doing either seems like a violation IMO.
I've been looking for a way to solve this exact problem.
I have a 5ghz SSID and a 2.4ghz SSID and I want my nexus player to ALWAYS use the 5ghz, but because I have the same Google account synced to all my Android devices I can never "forget" the 2.4ghz SSID on my nexus player, it always gets restored. To make matters worse, the nexus player prefers the 2.4ghz connection because the signal tends to be stronger.
The only solution I've seen is to dump and disable android backup on every android device I own (2x Nexus Player, 2x Tablets, 3 Phones) to prevent it from syncing both network connections, but it doesn't appear to be possible to JUST remove wifi networks from being synced.
Intersting to read that. Do you at least have a reliable connection when using the 5GHz? (meaning a stable connection over a full week, without connection drops?)
By the way: If *anybody* could shed some light on whether the Marshmallow preview finally enables us to use DFS channels on the Nexus Player, then this would be great. I cannot really flash the preview as it would wipe the player and I'd need hours to set up all my apps again from scratch... and since I know that some people have been testing this, I prefer to ask. Apparently got new neighbors last week who are now polluting the lower 5GHz band which used to be perfectly free... so I wanna switch to the DFS channel frequencies, however the Nexus Player can only connect to the lowest four 5GHz currently, which are the non-DFS ones (all my laptops and even a friend's Samsung tablet from 2013 support the 5GHz DFS channels though)
The Marshmallow changelog contains the following commit: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/opt/net/wifi/+/dfc7d48
Has anyone been able to check if this has any effect on the Nexus Player with the latest firmware?
Edit: besides this there's also: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/frameworks/opt/net/wifi/+/6f59b02
For the two people caring: The Nexus Player supports DFS channels and can successfully connect to those after the Marshmallow update.
Mine got the update without me noticing it at all and when I realized it had received the update, I wanted to check the wi-fi and saw it was already connected to my 5GHz wi-fi (which is on one of the upper DFS channels).
tl;dr: When my phone (Sony Xperia Z5 compact, Android 6) connects to a wifi with no internet, I want to use the local network on the wifi but use the internet from my mobile data. Instead what happens mobile data doesn't switch back on while connected to wifi with no internet.
I have been trying to find a solution for this since forever. My camera creates a local wifi connection which I can connect to to view the camera as well as controlling it. The downside is that while connected to this network my cellular data gets switched off, despite this wifi network not having any internet. So while using my camera I have no way to access the internet. It wasn't a huge problem up until recently when the app I use is introducing livestreaming. I really want to use it but I am unable to find any way how to keep my phone connected to this wifi network (and being able to use it), while any internet data goes over 4G. I am using android 6.0.1. I am quite sure I was able to do this on my previous phone with an older Android version but I cannot find said option (smart network switch or something?) anymore in the wifi settings. Nor any recent similar topics with people with the same question? Anyone that knows more about this?
My phone is rooted. If I need to do any system changes I can do that.
I didnt get what you were trying saying.Do you know that you cant use mobile data and wifi simultaneously unless your device is rooted.If your phone is rooted then try using "download booster"
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I didnt get what you were trying saying.Do you know that you cant use mobile data and wifi simultaneously unless your device is rooted.
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Err, sorry, lol. I have wifi network that has no internet, just a local network. I'd like to be connected to that wifi network AND be able to use internet over my mobile data both at the same time. As it is right now, my mobile data gets disabled even when the wifi network has no internet access.
I have talked to two friends of mine about it and both say this is already possible in Android. One friend sent me a screenshot of an option he has in his wifi settings called 'Switch to mobile data' which gets enabled when the wifi network has no internet. My other friend said he doesn't have this option but claims it has been a default feature of Android since lollipop. He tested it on his phone and indeed it works as expected. Both have an unrooted phone with stock Android. So now there is me with my brand new phone and Android 6 and I can't find this option nor does it seem to do what I want by default. I'm confused.
As I mentioned, my phone is rooted so if there is a way to turn this feature on using root, I can totally do that if someone knows how.
As i said try using "Download Booster" It allows you to use wifi and mobile data at the same time just google it.
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As i said try using "Download Booster" It allows you to use wifi and mobile data at the same time just google it.
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That appears to be just a download manager if I am correct? I don't need to download anything. I just want to be able to use my existing apps to use my mobile internet when I am connected to wifi (that has no internet).
This is the exactly the thing I'm after. Screenshot from my friend's phone (LG G4 with Android 6.0): (*link removed). My other friend who also has this functionality working has a Nexus 5 with Android 6.0.1.
* Forum doesn't let me post screenshots.. But basically in his wifi settings he has an option called "Switch to mobile data". The box says "Internet unavailable via connected Wi-Fi. Stay connected to Wi-Fi, but use mobile data. Data charges may apply."
Again, I have Sony Xperia Z5 compact with Android 6.0.1 and I can't find this. Have I bought the wrong phone or is it fixable? At this point I am more than happy to even take a custom rom route.
You cannot use wifi and internet at the same time as they are completely different hardware components, using different air waves, so there's no conflicts between them. Better use internet through your wifi or use bluetooth tethering.As for the "switch to mobile data option" it disconnectes you from your wifi if it has no internet and connects you to your mobile data so it doesnt lets you use your wifi and mobile data at the same time
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You cannot use wifi and internet at the same time as they are completely different hardware components, using different air waves, so there's no conflicts between them. Better use internet through your wifi or use bluetooth tethering.As for the "switch to mobile data option" it disconnectes you from your wifi if it has no internet and connects you to your mobile data so it doesnt lets you use your wifi and mobile data at the same time
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It actually clearly mentions that it keeps connected to the wifi. He tested it and indeed he could use the local network on the wifi side and use the internet through his mobile data simultaneously. Both friends haven't rooted their phones or anything. This is just a default functionality for them. I have now tested it also on my older phones (Oneplus One and HTC One M8) and all phones can't have both connections open at the same time.
This wifi network is created by my camera by the way and I can't change much about it. The DJI drone I control does the same thing. When I am connected to the camera or drone I lose my mobile internet connection.
I don't have any other device that has access to internet here. We don't have cabled internet, only mobile internet.
Interestingly, in the developers options there is an option called "Mobile data always active" ("Always keep mobile data active, even when Wi-Fi is active"). I've tried it many times, rebooted my phone but this doesn't actually do anything. Even with this option on when wifi is connected the mobile data gets turned off.
This is beyond annoying!
I too have struggled to find a solution to this problem. I do not have a WAN connection to my home network. It is LAN only. I have four PC's, three Sonos speakers, two hdhomerun TV tuners, and various hand held devices that all use the LAN. All I want to do is be able to use my Moto X Pure to control Sonos and file sync to my LAN via wifi and simultaneously use mobile data for WAN stuff. I know the mobile connection is active with wifi enabled because I can see it when running if config, up route show etc... I am trying to learn about the routing tables to see if I can fix this myself. I love my android devices and am loyal, but this is beyond dumb! Any suggestions????
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okay so for anyone who doesnt know still go into the about phone option in your phone settings, then click on kernel version, build model, etc til one pops up with a flash notification saying click so many more times and youll become a dev. once you done that go into the developer menu and scroll too wifi assist or force mobile data upon wifi connection. exit out , open your app , bobs your uncle
Thank you for the answer.
I tried with my Huawei but it doesn't work. Could you tell with which phone you made it work ? Thank you !!
Ok here we go, after 12 years this my first post.
Above suggestions related with developer options nothing to do with OPs requirement. Those option only allows the device rapidly switch to mobile data when the WiFi signal gets weak. Since you always close to your DSLR camera it solves nothing because WiFi signal is always strong.
Root cause of the problem is you can not have 2 default gateways (i.e. router address) for your networks in any operating system (Actually you can but you have to set static routes, which is a pain in the ass for regular users)
iOS handles this in a very simple way. Set your wifi connection to static IP address instead of DHCP and leave your default gateway or router address blank. Viola you can have 3G/LTE data while you connected your camera and now you can sent your downloaded pictures via Whatapp while you still connected to your camera via WiFi. (In my case Panasonic Lumix)
I stumbled upon this thread via Google since I needed the same thing now with Android. But iOS way failed. Actually I am shocked that you cannot leave WiFi Gateway address blank in Androdid 8.0! Save button grays out if you leave it blank. This is really weird. At least with Galaxy S8 Duos with Android 8.0
So anybody know how to setup a WiFi network without a default gateway, please share.
Is this phone specific or something? Never had that happen, I have no problem with wifi being on without internet and using cell data.
I don't think the UI really exposes anything like it directly but you can technically have multiple gateways; it's not something your average user will understand (policy routing)..
Having said that, if you're attached to an AP you should at least see a /24 route out your wireless interface (standard dhcp lease). It's quite common for the AP to have client isolation but are you sure you're not using something like Wifi Direct or even adhoc?
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I have been through this experience long ago. All I did was to sell the phone and bought a new one.
Hi, I would like to use my S8 to livestream my gopro (with a self made app based on FFmpeg), for that I need to be connected to the GoPro stream via WiFi and I need to use my cellular data (LTE) to send it to a streaming server.
In my test I noticed this phone is unable to keep both connection open at the same time, it was not the case on my previous LG G4, I was also able to test on a nexus 5X where it worked successfully, so I blame the samsung software (PS: I just did an update, didn't change anything).
I tried every options (and combination possible), keep cell data, agressive wifi/cell, both in dev' settings, also smart wifi (agressive or not) in regular settings... And it didn't change anything (the smart thing only either fully disable the wifi connection to local only wifi or connects fully to it and awaits internet connection).
I found this thread on samsung forum https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...internet-while-connected-to-GoPro/td-p/185875 with no answer...
Do you guys have any solution?
Quick edit: I did try to use "Download booster" thing but it doesn't help, it seems the phone is still using the wifi for DNS, I tried with and without smart switch thing... They really didn't think about people using WiFi without internet connection voluntary??
Thanks
same problem here, i don' t know how to fix it. you can share your code? with other guys we are trying to do a solution to live stream gopro on android , if you want i'll link it to you
It cannot be done as we cannot change our IP, Default Gateway, or Subnet on our WiFi.
With iOS you can, thus why iOS users can use the GoPro and LTE simultaneously.
Enjoy.