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Hi, so far my experience with the s6 edge plus is not so good. It overheats and sometimes is laggy. My friend who also bought the same model g928c from the same shop in UAE said his s6 edge plus broke because it overheated too much. I like the look and design though. If I sell my current s6 edge plus should I change to note 5 like my friend did? Or should I buy another working s6 edge plus? I can't return my current one because I live in the UK.
Never had any overheating or lag related to stock ROM so couldn't help you. I've heard the note tends to have more software lag due to specialized SPen programs and that the Edge+ is smoother. That's just hearsay though.
No heating here even after heavy gaming and never faced lag issues
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Wrong thread buddy.........snapdragons across the street
Never felt mine get even close to hot?
Lag.. a little.. but that seems to be more because the apps keeps closing
Should I just sell my 64gb g928c and buy a dual sim 32gb g9287 or 32gb g928f?
Or note 5?
On my G298F no lag and no overheats. @hayat55 hard reset your terminal and update it to the latest firmware via OTA, if not enough bring it to a customer service and keep your GS6+.
Regards
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On my G298F no lag and no overheats. @hayat55 hard reset your terminal and update it to the latest firmware via OTA, if not enough bring it to a customer service and keep your GS6+.
Regards
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Samsung WON'T honor the warranty because it is only valid in ASIA. I LIVE IN THE UK
Not had 1 problem with heating and had no lag since I got phone on release. Best Samsung yet just a shame it looks like we not going to get much developing action. I lime flashing new roms and with this phone it ain't gonna happen anytime soon
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Samsung WON'T honor the warranty because it is only valid in ASIA. I LIVE IN THE UK
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One classic reason when I make such an expensive purchase is to ensure I have customer protection.
If you think about this no UK shop or outlet will willingly touch your phone as you have not made the purchase through them, however, .........unless Samsung has changed its policy you will find your phone has an international warranty. THE problem for you will be finding a Samsung outlet that will deal with your mobile. The problems are compounded as nearly all outlets use one technical shop to repair all their mobiles, don't think for one second when any Mobile goes wrong it is returned to the importer its not. iPhone maybe the one exception?
May I suggest you contact Samsung UK directly and request assistance. They may either request you send them your phone or give you the name of an outlet where your phone can be examined for problems.
I live in Southern Europe and very often the mobiles here are vastly more expensive than they are in Amazon.de, for example. On times I will take a chance as Amazon have a cast iron reputable returns policy. Other times if the financial difference is small I suck it up and purchase here. I bought my Edge+ here to avoid return problems.
One thing you will always need is your dated receipt and on said receipt it must have the serial number or IMEI of the mobile. I doubt you will find much joy with dealing with outlets etc as they have not made a profit on the sale.
Samsung UK may even be 'grumpy' about it BUT I am confident if you get to a person who knows the law and is a decent enough member of staff they will help you. Hey, I purchase such items here sometimes have a problem and call the UK office and they have, to date, always answered my questions. Do NOT let the switchboard operator prevent you from speaking to the service or customer relations department.
I know for sure such international companies used to include in the box an international warranty, Sony certainly still do even listing world wide head offices for customers to contact. I cant recall if Samsung now include in the box such a warranty?
One thing for sure this mobile is a bloomin good one. I often purchase four mobiles a year I have now the S6, S6 Edge+, iPhone 6, Sony Xperia Z2 and Ultra etc. Though I have found all those mentioned to be superb mobiles the Samsung's appear to have developed extremely fast in a very short space of time. Hell, this Edge+ is micro engineered like a Swiss watch. Gone are those awful days of plastic metals and plastic leather etc.
Oh. I guess you could pay DHL or UPS and have it returned to the shop of origin, Postal cost would be about £10 to £15.00? Only enclose a photo copy of your receipt.
Let us know what progress you make. I do hope you resolve your situation. Best of luck. :highfive:
Ryland
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One classic reason when I make such an expensive purchase is to ensure I have customer protection.
If you think about this no UK shop or outlet will willingly touch your phone as you have not made the purchase through them, however, .........unless Samsung has changed its policy you will find your phone has an international warranty. THE problem for you will be finding a Samsung outlet that will deal with your mobile. The problems are compounded as nearly all outlets use one technical shop to repair all their mobiles, don't think for one second when any Mobile goes wrong it is returned to the importer its not. iPhone maybe the one exception?
May I suggest you contact Samsung UK directly and request assistance. They may either request you send them your phone or give you the name of an outlet where your phone can be examined for problems.
I live in Southern Europe and very often the mobiles here are vastly more expensive than they are in Amazon.de, for example. On times I will take a chance as Amazon have a cast iron reputable returns policy. Other times if the financial difference is small I suck it up and purchase here. I bought my Edge+ here to avoid return problems.
One thing you will always need is your dated receipt and on said receipt it must have the serial number or IMEI of the mobile. I doubt you will find much joy with dealing with outlets etc as they have not made a profit on the sale.
Samsung UK may even be 'grumpy' about it BUT I am confident if you get to a person who knows the law and is a decent enough member of staff they will help you. Hey, I purchase such items here sometimes have a problem and call the UK office and they have, to date, always answered my questions. Do NOT let the switchboard operator prevent you from speaking to the service or customer relations department.
I know for sure such international companies used to include in the box an international warranty, Sony certainly still do even listing world wide head offices for customers to contact. I cant recall if Samsung now include in the box such a warranty?
One thing for sure this mobile is a bloomin good one. I often purchase four mobiles a year I have now the S6, S6 Edge+, iPhone 6, Sony Xperia Z2 and Ultra etc. Though I have found all those mentioned to be superb mobiles the Samsung's appear to have developed extremely fast in a very short space of time. Hell, this Edge+ is micro engineered like a Swiss watch. Gone are those awful days of plastic metals and plastic leather etc.
Oh. I guess you could pay DHL or UPS and have it returned to the shop of origin, Postal cost would be about £10 to £15.00? Only enclose a photo copy of your receipt.
Let us know what progress you make. I do hope you resolve your situation. Best of luck. :highfive:
Ryland
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I say get a squaretrade warranty and be done with it.
I have decided that i used my Note more than i thought, i thought that i didnt want the s-pen but it seems i miss it and used it more than i thought i did. I randomly find myself reaching for it and to no avail its not there lol. This is a grea fast phone with the best display on the market but im going back to a Note.
Hi All,
Being the hilarious guy that I am, I decided that it would be a good idea to jump out and scare the [email protected]#% out of my little sister whilst outside.
Of course she throws her hands up in the air, subsequently knocking the phone out of my hand. Case (led view that doesn't light up anymore) immediately separated from the phone and the screen landed face first on the concrete. Followed shortly by a "that's what you get for scaring me".
Few scratches around the center of the screen but the main issue is the bottom right corner just below the back button. Seems to have taken the brunt of the impact. So missing a chunk with cracks running along and it's already driving me mad.
I'm assuming that some of you may also have creative ways to smash your screens, so what's the best bet with getting this repaired? Any ideas on cost? I'm assuming just a screen replacement.
Cheers!
Funnily enough mine lost a chip and then cracked in exactly the same place - from a drop of less than 2ft Fortunately mine was covered by insurance and I got a replacement phone. In the UK I believe the cost of replacing the glass is in the upper £200s as the screen needs to be replaced as well as the glass because they are bonded together...
I've gotten quotes ranging from $200-$450 .. but not sure where to even begin with finding a reliable source to get the screen replaced. Starting to think this whole curved screen thing was a bad idea.
First phone I've ever accidentally damaged. I'd thought the cost would be around £200 but I've no idea where to look to sort this either. What a pain!
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First phone I've ever accidentally damaged. I'd thought the cost would be around £200 but I've no idea where to look to sort this either. What a pain!
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You must have a local mobile repair shop, look in town centres or markets
I recommend UBREAKIFIX..they have lots of stores in the US..the phone is still fairly new and repairs are not supported by many third party companies..I recently got mine changed ..brand new but its quite expensive ($409) but I got the phone back in about 4 days and it's brand new again. ��Your only other option is calling Samsug directly for repairs if your warranty is active.
cracked my screen too am currently fighting with samsung US to have it fixed, it's crazy they first told me that they can't do it (since it's the international variant not sold in the US, "parts are different and they don't have the right ones" though I doubt the screens are different). Then another said that they should be able to fix it and since then I keep sending them paperwork that they request to see if they even can fix it but they never receive it... A bit frustrating experience...
One option is to sign up for Samsung's phone cover and then send it to them for repair, OR, just have Samsung repair , I think the cost is 275 - i.e. assuming its a US phone, and not an "Out of Region" one - in whic case, you're SoL. I bought mine on Amazon from a seller who advertised "International Warranty" - which I assumed meant global warranty. After dropping my phone and cracking the screen, I found out International meant, sending the phone away internationally to the region it came from. Samsung US refused to repair "out of region". My phone was, of all places, from Egypt - which worked out beautfully for me, had a clleague from Cairo who was going back for vacation. Sent it back wiht him, and got the phone back, as good as new for a US$ equivalent cost of US$284. A massive f**k up, but I paid 700 for the phone, so, still not bad.
Will is still be waterproof after screen replacement, I'm hearing it won't be unless repaired by Samsung themselves.
Get flat screen next time. More easy to repair and cheap to repair.
Like galaxy S7 normal not edge
Lesson learned dont scare ur sister karma is a *****
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Will is still be waterproof after screen replacement, I'm hearing it won't be unless repaired by Samsung themselves.
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As far as I know the IP rating comes about by coating internal parts rather than preventing water ingress via sealing, so the phone should still be resilient (note, I didn't use the word 'waterproof' ... before or after a screen replacement).
I don't think Samsung warrant any damage by water anyhow so its a moot point.
Lesson ... don't take it under water!
See the following link - AT&T/Samsung have (finally) officially acknowledged a correlation between minimal water exposure and device failure. To the extent that they (AT&T) will replace under warranty from Samsung https://www.att.com/esupport/article.html#!/wireless/KM1114489?partner=LinkShare&siteId=JAF5WzpxbKM-Jj6AIrBnJkQWFIlF54ZC9w
Just posting as a courtesy, in case anyone has had to undergo the nightmare that is customer service from either side. I read several cases documented on AT&T forums as well as a Consumer Reports article.
Note - this phone may have the rating, but it does not hold up to the standard. Not even close. Don't get it wet.
It's also worth noting the Samsung directly touts this as a feature, specifically on the S7 Active: here
at our local ATT store, they had a cute little displa of hte S7 active and when you pushed a button, it would flood the device in the box. did all but the very top of the phone. Sounds to me like they feel it is water proof.
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at our local ATT store, they had a cute little displa of hte S7 active and when you pushed a button, it would flood the device in the box. did all but the very top of the phone. Sounds to me like they feel it is water proof.
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I saw this, too, when I went into a store yesterday to get a better idea of the look and feel of the device. I don't own it yet (it is arriving today as a warranty replacement for another device of mine that died), but it's pretty clear there are one or more batches that don't even come close to the water-resistance rating they advertise.
Also, it would make sense that the demo model in the store only fills to a point. Most scenarios I've read about involved a "splash near a pool" or the like. After which, the camera lens was visibly affected by water, and subsequently (presumably by entry through the top somehow) the screen would exhibit green lines, shorting, or just go black.
Im anxious to see how well it works. I have the S5 currently. I have dropped it 4 feed deep in the river, used it while sitting in the hot tub, held it under water in the creek to take photos, dropped it face down in the mud (first week I had it) and many other damp situations. never had a single issue with mine. my wife had the HTC M8 for 2 years and she left it on the porch and the sprinkler soaked it. She is also a swim coach and is around the pool every day. I sure hope this one is as good as my S5 in the water.
My less than a month old S4A spent over 45 minutes on the ocean floor in 5-6 feet of water while we frantically searched for it. Never had a single problem with it until I dropped it face down on a rock garden and smashed the glass. My S5A performed flawlessly for me through all kinds of wet adventures. I expect the fully sealed S7A to do equally as well.
All actives manufactured after they "fixed" the manufacturing issue should be rated correctly. The rest of the us are basically rolling the dice until it gets water logged. Sucks that they won't do a warranty exchange for those who already bought the phone. God forbid, ours get water damaged right after the warranty period... lol
I must admit I had high expectations for the durability and impervious nature of the device, given that I've never sought an Active model in the past. I personally won't be putting it to the test, as my lifestyle isn't demanding of a rugged phone, but to have the forewarning is a relief.
So if i didnt purchase the s7 active directly from att i will not be able to get a replacement?
Probably not from Att but you may get lucky with Samsung
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So if i didnt purchase the s7 active directly from att i will not be able to get a replacement?
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If you didn't purchase the device from AT&T or an authorized dealer, then you would not be eligible for a warranty replacement directly through AT&T.
You can get lucky. Most of the times I did warranty for tech devices, the companies never did ask for proof of purchase even though they state it's a requirement. Doesn't hurt to try if you need to.
OK, so I just went through heck today while trying to get my S7A replaced at ATT today. None of the representatives I spoke to (8 of them) had heard of the memo and were all accusing me of trying to scam them and told me to directly contact Samsung. Finally I reached an intelligent rep who called the store and demanded they swap my phone out in the store (a device service center store). Here is the internal memo number that will point other clueless Att reps to the correct information and hopefully make your process much more painless. Internal Memo #493258 . They will know what that means.
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OK, so I just went through heck today while trying to get my S7A replaced at ATT today. None of the representatives I spoke to (8 of them) had heard of the memo and were all accusing me of trying to scam them and told me to directly contact Samsung. Finally I reached an intelligent rep who called the store and demanded they swap my phone out in the store (a device service center store). Here is the internal memo number that will point other clueless Att reps to the correct information and hopefully make your process much more painless. Internal Memo #493258 . They will know what that means.
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Thanks for posting. It's a shame the communication internally is so terrible. Though, even without this, one need only point them to the document hosted on the customer-facing AT&T site that directly promises this (assuming a failed device from water damage).
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Thanks for posting. It's a shame the communication internally is so terrible. Though, even without this, one need only point them to the document hosted on the customer-facing AT&T site that directly promises this (assuming a failed device from water damage).
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I actually pulled the website up in the store but to them they interpreted "Samsung is offering a warranty exchange for customers who have experienced water damage issues with their Galaxy S7 active. Learn how to exchange your device." As let Samsung deal with it, not us. Believe me, that was the first thing I did haha
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If you know someone who took advantage of the recent $199 brand new Nexus, locked to T-Mobile, "sealed in box" deal, tell them it was a fraud and file for a return claim IMMEDIATELY. I figured it out today when I opened the box
a) for starters, the original Google box did not read "make in china"; even if it did, it would say.....umm.. Made in China (Grammar, people, grammar).
b) The original Google OEM packaging did not have the production date inscribed on the box; this "new box" did.
c) the dotted seal itself was a quite a bit misaligned (you guys will know what I am talking about)
d) No N6 is EVER locked to specific service. I still took the bait thinking that well, since it says locked to T-Mobile, the sim will come separate. I am not sure if this part is authentic, but I assumed that none of these N6 OEM boxes were supplied with sims inside. This one came with one inside. So, how did it end up inside if this was "sealed"?
e) the BIGGEST giveaway--the OEM screen protector was quite unique for our handsets; it was rough to touch but plain, and more importantly, it had a marked white triangular spot at the left corner of the handset (Google's way of saying that you can peel this from here if you want). This one I received had a cheap 60 cents type screen protector with smudges and crumples all over.
So, yea, filed a report and waiting for a refund. So much for my future love for this brilliant beast. Now I will have to give more love to my current one.
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If you know someone who took advantage of the recent $199 brand new Nexus, locked to T-Mobile, "sealed in box" deal, tell them it was a fraud and file for a return claim IMMEDIATELY. I figured it out today when I opened the box
a) for starters, the original Google box did not read "make in china"; even if it did, it would say.....umm.. Made in China (Grammar, people, grammar).
b) The original Google OEM packaging did not have the production date inscribed on the box; this "new box" did.
c) the dotted seal itself was a quite a bit misaligned (you guys will know what I am talking about)
d) No N6 is EVER locked to specific service. I still took the bait thinking that well, since it says locked to T-Mobile, the sim will come separate. I am not sure if this part is authentic, but I assumed that none of these N6 OEM boxes were supplied with sims inside. This one came with one inside. So, how did it end up inside if this was "sealed"?
e) the BIGGEST giveaway--the OEM screen protector was quite unique for our handsets; it was rough to touch but plain, and more importantly, it had a marked white triangular spot at the left corner of the handset (Google's way of saying that you can peel this from here if you want). This one I received had a cheap 60 cents type screen protector with smudges and crumples all over.
So, yea, filed a report and waiting for a refund. So much for my future love for this brilliant beast. Now I will have to give more love to my current one.
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Did the phone work?
Whether the phone worked or not is irrelevant. The phone is counterfeit, meaning its components would be subpar. Especially the screen, which would be an IPS LCD at best, TFT LCD at worst, with a resolution decidedly below the 2560x1440 of a genuine article.
As the above post mentions, it is most possible counterfeit. My guess is that it is at best a US refurbished item that was sent to China for repackaging and became "new and sealed." I checked for its IMEI and turned out clean.
I did not even turn on the phone because
a) ethically, it would be wrong and
b) if I am going to return a counterfeit or not as described item, the closer it is to the original condition, the better it is for full refund
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If you know someone who took advantage of the recent $199 brand new Nexus, locked to T-Mobile, "sealed in box" deal, tell them it was a fraud and file for a return claim IMMEDIATELY. I figured it out today when I opened the box
a) for starters, the original Google box did not read "make in china"; even if it did, it would say.....umm.. Made in China (Grammar, people, grammar).
b) The original Google OEM packaging did not have the production date inscribed on the box; this "new box" did.
c) the dotted seal itself was a quite a bit misaligned (you guys will know what I am talking about)
d) No N6 is EVER locked to specific service. I still took the bait thinking that well, since it says locked to T-Mobile, the sim will come separate. I am not sure if this part is authentic, but I assumed that none of these N6 OEM boxes were supplied with sims inside. This one came with one inside. So, how did it end up inside if this was "sealed"?
e) the BIGGEST giveaway--the OEM screen protector was quite unique for our handsets; it was rough to touch but plain, and more importantly, it had a marked white triangular spot at the left corner of the handset (Google's way of saying that you can peel this from here if you want). This one I received had a cheap 60 cents type screen protector with smudges and crumples all over.
So, yea, filed a report and waiting for a refund. So much for my future love for this brilliant beast. Now I will have to give more love to my current one.
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Was the seller from the US or Hong Kong ?
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Was the seller from the US or Hong Kong ?
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Did my bit of research to figure that out. First, some context. So, lot of Chinese sellers have a US pos (point of sale) with a residential address here (primarily happens to be in California cities because of closer proximity to airports with ease of international imp-exp) and sell stuff here as US seller. It is only when you look at their sale history and what they've been selling vis-a-vis their returns/return comments, most buyers are disgruntled with having requests to either take partial refunds and take off negative reviews or keep the product and...options are endless.
My seller was in PA, and I have been keeping an eye out for a NIB N6 for months. Few weeks ago, they (32GB, Blue or White) were being sold for $285 directly from Hong Kong from different sellers. Not too many bought those (I kept them on my watch list to see what's going on). Suddenly, these vanished from the site (for the most part). Then, this $199 deal came along from a 98.5% rating seller. Sounded too good to be true; still, I jumped at it because I was hoping for the best and also trusted Ebay's return policy. Now this...so, I think that My seller is likely a point of contact for Chinese sellers.
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Did my bit of research to figure that out. First, some context. So, lot of Chinese sellers have a US pos (point of sale) with a residential address here (primarily happens to be in California cities because of closer proximity to airports with ease of international imp-exp) and sell stuff here as US seller. It is only when you look at their sale history and what they've been selling vis-a-vis their returns/return comments, most buyers are disgruntled with having requests to either take partial refunds and take off negative reviews or keep the product and...options are endless.
My seller was in PA, and I have been keeping an eye out for a NIB N6 for months. Few weeks ago, they (32GB, Blue or White) were being sold for $285 directly from Hong Kong from different sellers. Not too many bought those (I kept them on my watch list to see what's going on). Suddenly, these vanished from the site (for the most part). Then, this $199 deal came along from a 98.5% rating seller. Sounded too good to be true; still, I jumped at it because I was hoping for the best and also trusted Ebay's return policy. Now this...so, I think that My seller is likely a point of contact for Chinese sellers.
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I have seen a lot of sellers from Hong Kong, but it never occurred to me that they were using US addresses to front. Ironically, the product was nearly the same as the Hong Kong......Ebay has gotten much better about fraud though. Before (over 10 yrs ago) Ebay and Paypal were 2 separate companies and the protection was very weak and only a percentage of the price. Now they allegedly cover it....I'm curious to what ends up happening with your situation.
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If you know someone who took advantage of the recent $199 brand new Nexus, locked to T-Mobile, "sealed in box" deal, tell them it was a fraud and file for a return claim IMMEDIATELY. I figured it out today when I opened the box
a) for starters, the original Google box did not read "make in china"; even if it did, it would say.....umm.. Made in China (Grammar, people, grammar).
b) The original Google OEM packaging did not have the production date inscribed on the box; this "new box" did.
c) the dotted seal itself was a quite a bit misaligned (you guys will know what I am talking about)
d) No N6 is EVER locked to specific service. I still took the bait thinking that well, since it says locked to T-Mobile, the sim will come separate. I am not sure if this part is authentic, but I assumed that none of these N6 OEM boxes were supplied with sims inside. This one came with one inside. So, how did it end up inside if this was "sealed"?
e) the BIGGEST giveaway--the OEM screen protector was quite unique for our handsets; it was rough to touch but plain, and more importantly, it had a marked white triangular spot at the left corner of the handset (Google's way of saying that you can peel this from here if you want). This one I received had a cheap 60 cents type screen protector with smudges and crumples all over.
So, yea, filed a report and waiting for a refund. So much for my future love for this brilliant beast. Now I will have to give more love to my current one.
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It is a moot point compared to the rest of your post, but the ATT models can be locked. I purchased one for someone, and it was carrier locked. The person didn't really care since they use the AT&T side of straight talk anyways.
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...The phone is counterfeit, meaning its components would be subpar. Especially the screen, which would be an IPS LCD at best, TFT LCD.....
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I think it is a look a like.
The price 199, is to low for a brand new N6.
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It is a moot point compared to the rest of your post, but the ATT models can be locked. I purchased one for someone, and it was carrier locked. The person didn't really care since they use the AT&T side of straight talk anyways.
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I'm not comprehending your point here. I'm talking about fraud. As I type this, I'm being fully refunded through eBay. Whether you got the original one or not for your friend is the point of this thread, not which carrier.
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I think it is a look a like.
The price 199, is to low for a brand new N6.
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No, it's the real deal but used or at best refurbished. Look up on eBay. Thousands of well known brands are sold as new or used. I got my N6 brand new over there. So, it's not always fraud. In this case, it's not as advertised and the box is fake. That's all.
When you see "brand new in box" after two years of a flagship phone, you'll have raised eyebrows for sure. I did, bit the bullet anyways, and am getting refund.
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I'm not comprehending your point here. I'm talking about fraud. As I type this, I'm being fully refunded through eBay. Whether you got the original one or not for your friend is the point of this thread, not which carrier.
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My comment was in response to your point d. The N6 is in fact locked to a specific carrier, ATT, in my experiences buying them for customers.
I've had bad luck buying "new" phones in the past. I'll never forget the headache when I bought a brand new Galaxy S and the speaker doesn't work. Wasn't the seller's fault. The phone was just defective. Anyway I decided just to send it to Samsung since it was covered under warranty. They sent it back to me THREE TIMES before they actually fixed the problem. Then I bought a Samsung Galaxy Note II on ebay and the camera wouldn't focus. Finally I decided to never buy a phone from ebay again. I feel your pain.
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I'm not comprehending your point here. I'm talking about fraud. As I type this, I'm being fully refunded through eBay. Whether you got the original one or not for your friend is the point of this thread, not which carrier.
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Your point D mentions that no Nexus 6 is ever carrier locked. As written that's false, making point D invalid. To make point D valid you would need to mention that no N6 comes carrier locked to T-Mobile.
That is why he pointed it out.
As far as I know, there havent been any rumblings of a Nexus 6 Clone on the net like Samsung phones.
Also there were 3 variants of the Nexus 6 where as 2 of them were carrier locked and one which was carrier branded but technically unlocked.
T-Mobile/At&T are carrier locked, while the Verizon version is not and I can attest to this because I own a Verizon variant running on T-Mobile.
Like most Chinese clones the phones are usually IPS or TFT panels with subpar resolution of the original. Also they can only achieve 26 but will have a fake 4G icon to make people think the phone is using 4G.
Now your story is a cool one, as you did not even test the phone, or actually use the phone. You didnt even turn on the phone. Therefore I do not buy your story, and without proof you cannot say the phone is a clone or fake one. You have every right to inspect the item you bought to make sure it is not fake. So i find your claims incomplete of merit.
@bvzxa3: T-Mobile never locked their Nexus 6. That dubious honor was reserved for AT&T, along with having the death star on the back. Also, he never said the phone was counterfeit. I made that assumption based upon the description of the box having spelling errors and misaligned "cut here" hash marks. A later post of his mentions his belief the phone was in fact refurbished, but not by Motorola.
two variants: unlocked US version, and an International version.
I bought one from us for only $249.00 and have never had a problem with it.
I agree you should have tested it without that you should not get a refund.
I got Verizon one and it was locked.
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If you know someone who took advantage of the recent $199 brand new Nexus, locked to T-Mobile, "sealed in box" deal, tell them it was a fraud and file for a return claim IMMEDIATELY. I figured it out today when I opened the box
a) for starters, the original Google box did not read "make in china"; even if it did, it would say.....umm.. Made in China (Grammar, people, grammar).
b) The original Google OEM packaging did not have the production date inscribed on the box; this "new box" did.
c) the dotted seal itself was a quite a bit misaligned (you guys will know what I am talking about)
d) No N6 is EVER locked to specific service. I still took the bait thinking that well, since it says locked to T-Mobile, the sim will come separate. I am not sure if this part is authentic, but I assumed that none of these N6 OEM boxes were supplied with sims inside. This one came with one inside. So, how did it end up inside if this was "sealed"?
e) the BIGGEST giveaway--the OEM screen protector was quite unique for our handsets; it was rough to touch but plain, and more importantly, it had a marked white triangular spot at the left corner of the handset (Google's way of saying that you can peel this from here if you want). This one I received had a cheap 60 cents type screen protector with smudges and crumples all over.
So, yea, filed a report and waiting for a refund. So much for my future love for this brilliant beast. Now I will have to give more love to my current one.
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You didn't share any links so it is hard to know what the situation was other than the fact that you feel ripped of by the unauthentic looking phone. But let me share my own experience of buying what seemed like new phones and how that turned out.
I really like Samsung Note 3. I think it was one of the best phones ever made, not because it has the best performance or build, simply because it is a good toy; it is easy to root and a lot of development has been done on it. You can tear it apart and put it back together in 5 minutes. It is not full of glue and impossible to reach corners. After 3 years used Note 3 phones still get sold at prices higher than some mid tier phones. I also have an S7 edge but I rarely use it. It is just not as much fun.
It is because of that, that I have owned 6 of them so far. If I break them I either fix them or get another one. And since it is not sold in retail stores anymore the only place to get them is Ebay.
Six months ago I found one advertised as a new T-Mobile phone on Ebay for ~$240 but it would be shipped from Hong Kong. I was curious how a T Mobile phone would actually be sold in Hong Kong? But with today's global economy it would not be a far stretch of imagination so I went ahead and ordered it. Took about a month to get it and when I opened the box I could swear the thing was a new phone. Everything was correct down to the T Mobile logo on the box.
After a few days I realized that, as new as the thing looks on the outside, it was in fact not a T Mobile phone. The LCD had an image burned into it which was visible especially on a blue background. It had clearly been used as a demo unit for a long time showing the same image over and over, which had gotten burnt into the OLED display. The headset connector had been used 366 times, charger connector 1216 times, and S pen had been detached 313 times. So the phone had been used extensively.
I dug a bit more into the hardware of the phone and I found that the model number hardcoded into the phone was SM-N900TZKETMB which is the model number for a black phone. This phone was white so clearly the frame and the back had been changed. I should have known better because the phone had a gold trim. T Mobile never sold this phone in this color.
I called Samsung and they said the phone had run out of warranty. I actually guessed it myself because again I could access the hardcoded info in the phone and I knew it had been manufactured more than 2 years before the purchase date.
So, in summary, this was not a new phone. This is a refurbished phone, albeit masterfully refurbished. I emphasize that it was not a copy. I verified myself that it has all the genuine hardware inside. So I ended up returning it for a refund.
A few months later, I found a "new" T-Mobile Sony Xperia Z3 on Ebay, another one of my favorites, sold from Hong Kong. Went ahead and ordered it, just to go through the same ordeal. If you know one thing about Z3 it is probably the fact that it has a great camera. The camera on this one was horrible. I have never before or since seen a camera that bad. The LCD was dim with uneven brightness, and some other problems... you get the picture. I ended up returning that as well. Later, I found out that T Mobile never sold this phone in this color either, so fool me once...
A couple of months passed by and I figured that since I like Note 3 and that white phone with the gold trim actually looked good, knowing that I will get a refurbished phone, I should go ahead and order another one from Hong Kong. After all, it was the original hardware in a refurbished shell, so what could go wrong. I ordered it and it came, again, in a sealed box with all bells and whistles. This time however, the phone would not function properly. It would not attach to T Mobile LTE network and even after putting the right APN etc, I would lose connection after every reboot. I started looking into the hardware. I found that it was in fact an N9005 (international model) refurbished as a N900T!!! They had force-flashed the T Mobile ROM on it and in the process had blown the knox fuse, which was a deal breaker since I need to use the phone in a secure corporate environment. That phone went back to Hong Kong as well.
So three phones from three different vendors all having the same problem. Why?
Because there is a cottage industry in China that buys used phones from the US and other countries. They clean them up, replace the exterior frame, replace any broken components with aftermarket parts, and they even print the exact same brochures, boxes, and plastic wrappings to masquerade them as new, and they sell them on the internet. This is a step-up from the fake phones they used to make a few years ago so at least the hardware inside is mostly authentic, but they are dishonest and will easily lie to you about the phones being new. The above-mentioned phones were all shipped, not from Hong Kong, but from China through Hong Kong. Not everyone is picky like me to go through all this trouble to test and return these effectively used products. Some people just use the phone to make phone calls, which most of these phone do very well anyway.
I do not want to disrespect the Chinese. But in the consumer electronics sector, this is unethical and I see it being done more and more by them. Selling low grade goods disguised as original products to people erodes the buyers confidence. Five years ago if I wanted to buy a replacement LCD on Ebay, I could find some at the $100 dollar price mark and some at the $10 level, which would tell me which one it the Chinese low quality crap so I could stay away from it. Today, I want to buy a Sony LCD on Ebay and I have a price range from $20 to $50 and there is no guarantee that the $50 is any better than the $20 one. For what I know they may have all come from the same crappy low quality manufacturing line in Shenzhen.
Just to make things clear here, when we're referring to AT&T locking the device, we're referring to a SIM lock, not a bootloader lock. Regardless of carrier, the US Nexus 6 could be bootloader unlocked so custom ROMs could be installed. But only AT&T SIM locked the device.
Basically, the title is my question. I cracked my screen And I'm taking it to a shop to get fixed I just want to make sure they give me authentic screen instead of a knock off. Is there any way to get specs and numbers from the screen so I can compare them? Thanks
dmullins80 said:
Basically, the title is my question. I cracked my screen And I'm taking it to a shop to get fixed I just want to make sure they give me authentic screen instead of a knock off. Is there any way to get specs and numbers from the screen so I can compare them? Thanks
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One way is to take it to Best Buy's Geek squad. They are a Samsung factory authorized repair center and your warranty will remain intact. If you take it to a 3rd party repair center, your warranty will be void.
cam30era said:
One way is to take it to Best Buy's Geek squad. They are a Samsung factory authorized repair center and your warranty will remain intact. If you take it to a 3rd party repair center, your warranty will be void.
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All Best Buy Geek Squad are Samsung authorized repair centers? Not a 100% sure, but I think the one in my town isn't An authorized repair center.
Based on my experience, the after market ones don't usually have the oleophobic coatings, or at least not as good in quality.
dmullins80 said:
All Best Buy Geek Squad are Samsung authorized repair centers? Not a 100% sure, but I think the one in my town isn't An authorized repair center.
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Not every Best Buy has techs that are trained and factory certified. But it's worth trying to find one in order to keep your warranty intact.
ikeny said:
Based on my experience, the after market ones don't usually have the oleophobic coatings, or at least not as good in quality.
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Thanks for the tip. So, I guess there's not an app that list hardware numbers?
cam30era said:
Not every Best Buy has techs that are trained and factory certified. But it's worth trying to find one in order to keep your warranty intact.
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I'm not 100% sure how it works for phones as I only work on laptops but usually if there's not a repair agent in store they'll send it out to one of our main repair centers. Again I can only speak from experience of working on laptops but if you don't have adh coverage through best buy the repair cost is usually not worth it (we junk out probably half of the tablets that come in with cracked screens).
Source: I work at Geek Squad City, our largest repair center.
I never thought they could produce fake s8 screens. I thought it was samsung patent to do that.
Honestly, I don't think any 3rd party has the manufacturing power to make a fake S8 screen. In the worst case it will be manufactured by samsung, but either assembled by a 3rd party or distributed thru an unofficial channel. Maybe this affects the oleophobic coating as mentioned, or the digitizer, but I really doubt it, I haven't seen knock offs for this model.
Once the display is in place, I don't think you can do much about it. So the only thing you can do is to make sure that either the repair service is genuine and trustworthy, or you can buy a Samsung screen yourself and take it to your local repair shop (preferably one that does an open service - in front of the customers).
The reason why I question the Quality of the screens is because I've been to several different phone repair shops and they all give me different prices of the screens. For example one place told me they get there screens for 180 and will put it in for 229 (cheapest I've found) while another place told me 299 for a screen and they'll replace it for 380( most expensive I've found). So, im wokndering how the other guy was getting it for 180.
Also, I want my Digitizer and LCD screen back and the most expensive guy was acting like he didn't want to give it back and also he was going to charge me more if he gave it back.
I was going to try and repair just the screen and keep it as a spare.
dmullins80 said:
The reason why I question the Quality of the screens is because I've been to several different phone repair shops and they all give me different prices of the screens. For example one place told me they get there screens for 180 and will put it in for 229 (cheapest I've found) while another place told me 299 for a screen and they'll replace it for 380( most expensive I've found). So, im wokndering how the other guy was getting it for 180.
Also, I want my Digitizer and LCD screen back and the most expensive guy was acting like he didn't want to give it back and also he was going to charge me more if he gave it back.
I was going to try and repair just the screen and keep it as a spare.
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FWIW: I paid $249 at Best Buy, including labor. OEM screen, Samsung factory certified repair facility, warranty intact.....
You can get either OEM screens directly from samsung certified vendors, or generics. They aren't knock offs, they're considered "after market". The vendor who quoted you a lower price likely has a deal set with another vendor to buy in bulk, thus lowering the price of each individual screen.
Jsudds said:
You can get either OEM screens directly from samsung certified vendors, or generics. They aren't knock offs, they're considered "after market". The vendor who quoted you a lower price likely has a deal set with another vendor to buy in bulk, thus lowering the price of each individual screen.
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I have bought screens for other devices that claim oem but they most def where not. Broke again splintered not like authentic gorilla glass. But like a cheap sheet of glass. When i brought it to the companies attention they removed. Our screens are oem replacements from the website. I had it in screenshots. It was a horrible ordeal because there substandard products they claimed quality broke on their own. No drops no nothing. I've repaired my share of phones. So i only try to buy oem direct
OEM. most after markets have nothing but a certified sticker on them. True, the quality might be less, but you'd also get the same from a bad batch of OEM that failed QC due to a new member on their production team. It happens at every factory, in every field not limited to tech. I use both aftermarket and OEM every day, multiple times per day. Truth be told so far, the only issues I've had were from Apple's OEM on the iPhone 6 and and some samsungs without frames.
Also, my comment still applies with basic economic reasoning. Buy more, pay less, gain repeat customers.
Jsudds said:
OEM. most after markets have nothing but a certified sticker on them. True, the quality might be less, but you'd also get the same from a bad batch of OEM that failed QC due to a new member on their production team. It happens at every factory, in every field not limited to tech. I use both aftermarket and OEM every day, multiple times per day. Truth be told so far, the only issues I've had were from Apple's OEM on the iPhone 6 and and some samsungs without frames.
Also, my comment still applies with basic economic reasoning. Buy more, pay less, gain repeat customers.
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How can one know an original OEM screen from a copy version? I broke my Samsung S8 screen and want it fixed, however i'm scared of replacing it with a copy version as against the original version. How can i tell which is which? Pls note i don't live in the USA