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Hello all,
I'm after a new head unit for my truck, I use the truck for a lot of off roading and for this I use an android based maping software!
So I'm after a single din android head unit with a flip up screen, the ability to transmit to other screens (thinking about a sunvisor screen) it would be nice if I could have a camera input or two, and the ability to connect my phone for handfree phone calls! Also due to the mapping software GPS capabilities, optinal it would be nice to plug a hddd or memory stick with into it for music input
Does anyone have any advice on what would fit my needs?
Thenskae505
My only issue is ruggedness. Sounds like you may want to look at a tablet worth a holder.
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I currently use a tablet, problem I have with it is the tablets I have used 7inch and 10 inch are very bulky, I like the idea of a headunit because it can retract, if I was to mount a tablet it would cover some of my other dials/controls! Also I use the truck for work every day and having a tablet on display wouldn't be a good idea
Is an android headunit really less rugged then the cd player I currently have??
what vehicle is it?
If you are comparing to a name brand unit like Kenwood or pioneer. I would have to say yes
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It's a mitsubishi pajero,
I don't think ruggedNess would be a problem buts it's a risk I'm going to take!
do they make a vehicle specific unit? that would be the best for less bumping around
CadillacMike said:
do they make a vehicle specific unit? that would be the best for less bumping around
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Unfortunately not, it's just an old school single din head unit slot!
thesnake505 said:
Hello all,
I'm after a new head unit for my truck, I use the truck for a lot of off roading and for this I use an android based maping software!
So I'm after a single din android head unit with a flip up screen, the ability to transmit to other screens (thinking about a sunvisor screen) it would be nice if I could have a camera input or two, and the ability to connect my phone for handfree phone calls! Also due to the mapping software GPS capabilities, optinal it would be nice to plug a hddd or memory stick with into it for music input
Does anyone have any advice on what would fit my needs?
Thenskae505
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thesnake505 said:
It's a mitsubishi pajero,
I don't think ruggedNess would be a problem buts it's a risk I'm going to take!
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A single din head unit with the flip out display will sooner than later break or wear out the motorized gear assembly or ribbon cable. This is especially true with any of the android head units available today and even more so when any of these units are used off road. That said, you can still listen to music on the android single din head units with the display retracted. Although, not being able to use the display while off road defeats the purpose of having it for gps or cameras etc.. To clarify a little more, I had a single din android hu in my 3rd gen montero limited (same as the larger size pajero or shogun, but not the sport), and the display was no where near strong enough to handle all the bouncing around while off road. In turn, I relocated the heater - ac controls to the wallet pocket in the upper center console and installed a double din joying hu. This may or not be an option for you too, depending on how your specific pajero dash, heater - ac controls, center console, and wallet pocket align.
As to the ability to transmit to other displays, I'm not aware of any decent android hu options for that except for maybe the Newsmy Carpad units that use hdmi out on a separate android box to feed its double din display. Please note that most android units will only display a dvd to another screen, and the dvd's only transmitted through the micro controller unit and not through the android system. Nonetheless, there may be a couple of different units out now that may be able to push what's on the main display to other displays, but again I'm not aware of any myself. Hopefully someone here will be able to chime in with some good suggestions for that.
In regard to hands free phone calls via bt to the hu, that's possible, although the voice quality and volume level can be sub par on many units without a hardware mod and a decent quality external mic.
For cameras, I set up a waterproof front camera just below the front bumper license plate frame that runs through the AV-in input. It's used as a front parking and off road camera. I also installed a rear waterproof back up camera with on-off switches, so it can be viewed at any time or turned off completely. Please note that neither of these cameras have dvr capabilities, so I installed a thinkware 750 front and rear camera kit plus three more 1080p dvr type cameras to help cover and record the front, rear, and side views.
With regard to using a hard drive or memory stick, both should work, but neither has been needed here. This is due to the joying hu having two micro sd card slots, and I've had no problem running fat32 formatted 64GB and 128GB sdxc cards packed with music, vids, pics, etc..
Bottom line is that you'll most likely regret a flip out hu unless you do not mind fixing or replacing it sooner than later. Plus, IMHO, most if not all aftermarket flip up displays are too slow, annoying, and clunky.
Best of luck,
R
So having read and took on board what yoy have said, what double din unit would be recommended? ?
I decided to buy an android HU and these two are my choices
ERISIN ES6405
OR
XTRONS PB86MTVAP
Their specs, as well as their price, seem to be similar. The only differances are that the Erisin has 26.4 GB of internal storage, whlie the Xtrons has 32 GB and that the erisin has the typical VW layout with physical buttons, while the xtrons has touch only ones.
Which one you believe is the best, in terms of quality, output, support etc.?
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I decided to buy an android HU and these two are my choices
ERISIN ES6405
OR
XTRONS PB86MTVAP
Their specs, as well as their price, seem to be similar. The only differances are that the Erisin has 26.4 GB of internal storage, whlie the Xtrons has 32 GB and that the erisin has the typical VW layout with physical buttons, while the xtrons has touch only ones.
Which one you believe is the best, in terms of quality, output, support etc.?
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i think erisin is more common and likely to have morge / better support
I have the same problem, not sure which one to choose. Also, those models are Volkswagen-specific, and I own a Skoda Octavia II 2006. I think it will work, but not sure 100%.
Erisin ES6405V
Erisin ES6698V
Xtrons PB86MTVAP
Apparently the three models have the same chipset: Rockchip PX5 – RK3368 (octacore) though the Xtrons does not specifically states it.
Spanish erisin reseller told me that Xtrons models have better quality than Erisin ones. Anyway, I dont like the Xtrons model since it does not have physical buttons. Between the other two, I'd go for the 6405v since it has 8" instead of 7".
Regarding the dimensions of the head unit to fit my car, I have a fascia front plate that replaces the original one to fit a Columbus RNS510 original nav, which according to google, has:
Front face plate at the widest point is 218 x 128. Rear is 178 x 110 with a depth behind the facia 189.
Which is very close to the dimensions of the erisin head unit, so looks pretty standard for all navs for the VW group.
Hi, I’ve just purchased and installed the Xtrons PB86MTVAP Head unit into my 2010 Skoda Octavia. Installation went fine although it was tricky to loom all the wires and find a suitable route for the USB cables.
Overall I’m very impressed with the HU, the screen is nice and the stock launcher and Apps are very intuitive. A few niggles I have is;
When I’m in the FM radio app and I find a station, I long press on the pre-set to store it but when I turn off the HU and take the key out they all reset?
When using the DAB radio which I have the extra unit for, when I’m in the app and playing a DAB radio channel its perfect, but when I come out of the App and leave it playing in the background it stutters and is unlistenable.
I also need to keep an eye on battery drain, as when I turn it off and leave the car then come back the next day it doesn’t boot up from cold, it literally takes 2 seconds which I wasn’t expecting.
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Hi, I’ve just purchased and installed the Xtrons PB86MTVAP Head unit into my 2010 Skoda Octavia.
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Octavia 2010 is still a Octavia II? (maybe the facelift they made in 2010 for the O2).
Do you have a fascia front plate to adapt the unit to the Columbus RNS510?
What's the chipset of the head unit? Is the PX5?
Any photos?
The USB ports I think the best way is to route them to the ash tray.
corpcd said:
Octavia 2010 is still a Octavia II? (maybe the facelift they made in 2010 for the O2).
Do you have a fascia front plate to adapt the unit to the Columbus RNS510?
What's the chipset of the head unit? Is the PX5?
Any photos?
The USB ports I think the best way is to route them to the ash tray.
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Yes it’s the facelift model on a 10 plate, Columbus shape faceplate is on order but I’ve only gone for an aftermarket ebay one for now, until I can source an original Skoda one for a reasonable price.
Both USBs I’ve routed inside the dash to the end where the end cap comes off, 1 of them has the DAB aerial going to the window the other will have a stick which I’ll fill up with media and it’ll permanently live inside there, it can be changed if needed by taking the end cap off.
I have no idea on the chipsets sorry and I can sort pictures over the weekend, I need to sort this pre-set radio stations issue, I believe I need to swap round the live wires in the ISO connector. (red and yellow wires)
levy9 said:
I have no idea on the chipsets sorry and I can sort pictures over the weekend, I need to sort this pre-set radio stations issue, I believe I need to swap round the live wires in the ISO connector. (red and yellow wires)
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I think you can see the chipset on the settings menu or using cpu-z.
levy9 said:
I believe I need to swap round the live wires in the ISO connector. (red and yellow wires)
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If you dont mind, take a picture of the power connector, Erisin reseller does not guarranty the 6405 model will be compatible with my car, so i am wondering on buying a PB86MTVAP.
Where did you buy it? How long did it take to arrive where?
I have it all installed now, was a bit of a ***** losing all the loom of wires behind the dash so won't be able to take a picture of the connector sorry.
Played with the wiring the other night to try and sort the radio losing my preset stations, but I managed to drain the battery over night so put it back!
Other than the radio I'm really happy with the unit, got mine from xtrons UK, arrived the next day. When I get a minute I'll take some pictures, just missing a new facia trim on back order from skoda.
Looks like Xtrons has reseased another unit for the VAG group: PB96MTVAPL, its like a PB86MTVAP without DVD, with a higher screen 9" vs 8" and a little bit cheaper. Also, I see no SD slots, though the webpage states it has.
Hi, I'm considering the x trons PB86MTVAP, does anyone know which chipset this comes with? I'm a little concerned that it isn't listed on the website.
s-tasos said:
I decided to buy an android HU and these two are my choices
ERISIN ES6405
OR
XTRONS PB86MTVAP
Their specs, as well as their price, seem to be similar. The only differances are that the Erisin has 26.4 GB of internal storage, whlie the Xtrons has 32 GB and that the erisin has the typical VW layout with physical buttons, while the xtrons has touch only ones.
Which one you believe is the best, in terms of quality, output, support etc.?
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Hi there,
If you are a girl will choose the design ... I'm kidding ...
The most important things are the specifications of the 1. Main board (integrates all the components, can limit some characteristics of components and the speed) 2. Processor (this set the power speed with less power consumption so I recommend octa-core) 3. Memory (much with higher speed better I recommend 4GB RAM and 32GB ROM with right speed) 4. Display (HD 1024x600 minimum) 5. Access for external devices like Rear CCD IR View Camera night-vision waterproof, DVR Full-HD night-vision camera for traffic recording, SD card for mp3 audio and mp4 video files, SD card for GPS maps and installation files, USB connectors, antennas for GPS and radio, the right power connector for your car (carefull), bluetooth for your mobile phone (check depending of your android or IOS if work) and the most important check the REAL DIMENSIONS to can fit in your car and fix it well to can not easy be take out from somebody (you need have also the right KEYS put in the 4 holes for the right installation). Maybe are also other extra but they are not so important believe me ...
Best regards,
Maybe you don't need to have all the best specifications (depending for what you want to use) because the payment will be higher
Hello
I have a 1991 R129 500SL that has a single din radio slot, so I'm looking for a single din android unit, 2 Din isn't possible in this car without lots of cutting and modifications, which is something I'm not willing to venture into.
I'm looking for a single din android unit with preferably the latest possible OS, iPod control or the ability to connect to a 2.5 external HDD. iPod control is very important to me as my entire music library is on my iPod classic. My second option would be to connect an external hard disk to the unit.
I would like to have a unit that has most of the slots on the rear end with a clean front interface with the option to change button colors to match my ambient lighting.
I've trying to some pictures of my current setup and what my center console looks like, doesn't seem to be an option to post pictures from my phone.
Anyways, any help is really appreciated guys.
Thank you
No one has an idea about single din android units that can control an iPod classic?
Any aftermarket apps perhaps to make this work?
Merc129 said:
No one has an idea about single din android units that can control an iPod classic?
Any aftermarket apps perhaps to make this work?
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https://www.amazon.com/PIONEER-AVH-X7800BT-1Din-Receiver-Bluetooth/dp/B017LKVMAS/
Probably your bet bet is something like this.
There's about 0 market for Single-DIN android, the entire market is double-DIN now.
As for that unit there, it isn't android but the Pioneer units are decent. I've used 2 of them in the past, but double-DIN.
Personally, I have no interest in the motorized fold-out screens. So here's a Joying Sofia unit which is single-Din mount, but with a double-DIN screen.
https://www.amazon.com/Autoradio-Bluetooth-Navigation-Aftermarket-Multimedia/dp/B01M8JHSP3/
I hope your vents aren't in the way!
Thanks for your reply.
I did buy the Pioneer 7800BT unit but I returned it the next day, as it tends to stall quite often when playing songs from my iPod and takes a long time to switch between tracks.
Also the Appradio mode is very impracticable, I need to keep my phone connected via usb which means no iPod. Also I need to install a specific Pioneer keyboard on my S7 edge otherwise the keyboard won't show up on the head unit for any input. This means I have to keep switching keyboards in my phone whenever I enter or exit the car. Also you can't really use google maps or anything like that as Appradio One is not true mirroring, I can only see a map with no nav options or turn by turn guidance.
You can use waze but there is a problem with the screen formatting, a lot of prompts are off-screen. It's not properly configured for this head unit.
All in all, it was a very poor effort by Pioneer so I returned it. I saw the joying units but they won't fit my console as you can see from the pics below, and they don't support iPod, and neither do Pumpkin head units.
I currently have a Kenwood KVT614 head unit that I hate with a passion. I can't stand the useless screen (without apps it really serves no purpose), the navigation software and about everything.
As a result I am considering switching the head unit out and I love the idea of something running android.
My car is an electric car and it only has a single DIN slot, so I am somewhat constrained in my choices.
Ideally I am looking for an android head unit that covers the following:
- Can run android apps, e.g. navigation (both offline and online via the phone)
- Tethering - I read that some headunits have issues with Bluetooth tethering which is obviously much better for phone battery
- Having an electric car, I actually want the headunit to turn OFF (not sleep) when the car is off
- Screen size: not too big - probably 6-7 inches or I saw some "very wide" widescreens at 8.8 inches that would fit well
- I also like the idea of screen mirroring or android auto (and carplay) working but I would very much prefer for this to work via wireless (not some stupid cable)
- power consumption would ideally be as little as possible with this being in an electric car ...
Does anyone have any recommendations?
I have been looking at some of Joying units, since they seem to be the most modern android head units with 4GB RAM, 32 or 64GB storage and running Android 8.0 or 8.1 …
Would love to get some feedback.
And how do I determine whether a head unit is a MTCB or MTCD, or whatever?
Is there a database or list somewhere? Does this no longer apply to new headunits?
It's too bad there is no sticky or wiki with recommendations and some guides.
Once you know your board (MTCx) there is some decent info, but for someone looking for a single DIN headunit there current forum setup is pretty useless.
No one helps here much.
The new joying intel based units have a new dsp chip that will blow everything out of the water in android platforms. I ordered on last week. Will be doing a review on it by next weekend hopefully
Hi everyone,
My name is Max and today I bricked my headunit Nothing fancy because it was 8227l_demo with 2gb/32gb. I'm looking for the best android headunit for now. Size 9". Android 9.1/10 + DSP. Can you all recommend something for me? TEYES CC2 Plus is a good one?
szach00 said:
Hi everyone,
My name is Max and today I bricked my headunit Nothing fancy because it was 8227l_demo with 2gb/32gb. I'm looking for the best android headunit for now. Size 9". Android 9.1/10 + DSP. Can you all recommend something for me? TEYES CC2 Plus is a good one?
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Depends on your budget. I would start with Rockchip PX6, PX5 or PX3. Just make sure it's a MTCx unit (so MCU type starts with letters MTC)
szach00 said:
Hi everyone,
My name is Max and today I bricked my headunit Nothing fancy because it was 8227l_demo with 2gb/32gb. I'm looking for the best android headunit for now. Size 9". Android 9.1/10 + DSP. Can you all recommend something for me? TEYES CC2 Plus is a good one?
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I just took delivery of one. (3/ 32GB)
Seems very well made. According to most YouTube videos I've seen in general, it is as fast as you need it to be, no bad signs of lag and of course if you're using a phone hotspot also depends on your WiFi. It will do me TBH vs. another sim card bill.
Audio quality is reportedly a plus too (which is important obviously)
I seen 2gb units with preloaded apps loading nicely, playing USB HD video files, GPS maps.
Pic is of unit inside Astra Mk6 OEM fascia fitting you get a GM canbus decoder and another speaker unit for indicators door open warning sounds.
I suppose like most gadgets any cons will be personal and appear after spending time with it.
I will report again after I install it after holidays. I botched a couple of photo uploads. If anyone needs any pics let me know. Merry Christmas Folks.
I have to say it's a neat little device with surprisingly decent A/V quality.
All the usual apps Spotify, Netflix, Prime, YouTube work perfectly.
Just connect your Google acc for most direct main app settings.
(If Google is not a preference, Admittedly I'm not surprised)
I have all connections in place, incl. 8pin CANbus but unfortunately the CANbus decoder is not sending a signal to the CC2 plus unit.
It's a Raise RSC and a guy on YouTube told me he got a Raise RZS which works fine.
(Seller said there is NO Raise RZS only RZC)
I'm disappointed as I've said it's a good unit and a working CANbus would have been icing on the cake as I get no reaction from cd 400 control button panel, Steering wheel controls, Door open warnings, A/C display etc.
I can't think where I go from here except try a different decoder. It's a decent probability I have a non working CANbus. And I've tried a lot of attempting to connect it.
EDIT Feb 2021: CANbus issue resolved.
There was a very slightly misaligned pin in the CANbus decoder connection zone
(zone c on CC2plus)
So I straightened it as best as I thought, connected 8 pin connection from loom and now it all works fine.
Incl; Door open warning s - Original cd400 unit fascia buttons / Steering Wheel buttons - A/C display etc. So happy days.