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Since Android was released, I've been a huge fan and my first Android phone was the HTC G1. All my phones since then have been Android with my current one being the Samsung Galaxy S2. While they have all been great, I have been really disappointed with not having timely Android OS updates. Some updates were skipped while others were delayed to the point that they were no longer the latest version by the time they were released. I then decided that my next phone would be a Nexus device. I was tempted by the Samsung Galaxy S3 when it came out by decided to hold out for the rumoured Nexus 4.
Everything I read about the N4 was looking promising but I'm not one to be an early adopter so when the N4 came out, I decided not to order it and wait for the early adopters to report any issues and make my decision based on that. When the 2nd wave of N4s came out, it was still too early as many people still had not gotten the N4 from the first wave so I decided to hold off yet again. I knew I'd be waiting until after Xmas for when I would likely be able to place my order.
Since early January, I have read a lot of user comments and I feel there is nothing being reported that has put me off. I am now in a position where I would be happy to purchase the N4 if/when it comes back on sale in the UK. I now hear rumours that this may not happen until mid-February. This would be around 3 months after it's initial release which is much longer than I hoped to wait for. I am really confused which way to go on this.
Reasons to skip the N4:
1. Being 3 months in probably means we're about 9 months away from the "Nexus 5". With JB update starting to roll out to the SGS2, I could quite possibly hold off until the N5. Also, there's no guarantee that the N4 supply won't be delayed further.
2. The flaky supply issues could indicate that LG accessories, spares and repairs could be affected as well. Even if available, they may charge a disproportional amount compared to the phone price.
3. I'm intrigued by the rumours of the Motorola X phone.
Reasons to buy the N4:
1. The N4 is still a great phone even if I only get my hands on it in late Feb. I don't use the phone for gaming so the spec of the phone could easily last me 2 years (or whenever I get tempted by another phone).
2. Google and LG have really shaken the market by bringing this phone at such a low price point. I'm hoping it will lead the way for other manufacturers that top end phones shouldn't be such a huge price. Buying the N4 shows my consumer support for this thinking. As a consumer, wouldn't we all love cheaper (top end) phones.
Any thoughts, suggestions?
Buy. It.
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The only thing REALLY bugging me about the N4 is that google hasn't restocked in over a month.
You said the thing that bothers you most is lack of timely updates. Buy it and be happy.
When the n5 comes out you can sell the n4 with minimal loss. Go for it.
Techno79 said:
Being 3 months in probably means we're about 9 months away from the "Nexus 5". With JB update starting to roll out to the SGS2, I could quite possibly hold off until the N5. Also, there's no guarantee that the N4 supply won't be delayed further.
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I don't really understand this part, where you basically say "I've waited 3 months for the N4, I'd better wait 9 more to the N5".
You waited until after Christmas before deciding to place the order, so you've actually waited 1 month more than expected as of today. I think that's not that big deal.
In either case you're gonna wait, so why wait more?
Following your line of thought, you should wait 2 months after the N5 launch (if you want to wait for the opinion of the early adopters as you did for the N4) before buying it. This'll make you wait roughly a year from now.
Are you sure the N5 launch will be as smooth as butter? What if the N5 is another really well-built and cheap device... and you have just the whole world waiting to lay their hands on it?
Who says you'll be able to get the Nexus 5 at launch?
To sum it up: waiting for the new Nexus device is not worth the time. The Nexus 4 is an awesome device, buy it (sic)!
And if the Nexus 5 will prove being that much better smartphone, you'll still be able to sell the N4 at a great price and buy the N5 without a hitch.
And if the declarations of LG France are truthful, you'll probably have to wait just one more month before unwrapping your brand new LGE Nexus 4
If you need a new phone get one. Thats the way I roll. I'll use this phone until its old and busted, doesn't hold a charge, Or I crack the screen.
DO you NEED a new phone? Can you afford 350 in throw away cash?
Those are the only two things I can see stopping someone from buying anything.
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I don't really understand this part, where you basically say "I've waited 3 months for the N4, I'd better wait 9 more to the N5".
You waited until after Christmas before deciding to place the order, so you've actually waited 1 month more than expected as of today. I think that's not that big deal.
In either case you're gonna wait, so why wait more?
Following your line of thought, you should wait 2 months after the N5 launch (if you want to wait for the opinion of the early adopters as you did for the N4) before buying it. This'll make you wait roughly a year from now.
Are you sure the N5 launch will be as smooth as butter? What if the N5 is another really well-built and cheap device... and you have just the whole world waiting to lay their hands on it?
Who says you'll be able to get the Nexus 5 at launch?
To sum it up: waiting for the new Nexus device is not worth the time. The Nexus 4 is an awesome device, buy it (sic)!
And if the Nexus 5 will prove being that much better smartphone, you'll still be able to sell the N4 at a great price and buy the N5 without a hitch.
And if the declarations of LG France are truthful, you'll probably have to wait just one more month before unwrapping your brand new LGE Nexus 4
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I was calculating the 3 months wait based upon when I reckon the phone will come back in stock in UK and the earliest I'd get the phone in my hands. However, I do accept your point that if the N5 came out then I wouldn't get it at launch and would be waiting a month or two like I normally do. I guess the frustration of waiting for it to come back in stock made me mis-calculate the timings
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If you need a new phone get one. Thats the way I roll. I'll use this phone until its old and busted, doesn't hold a charge, Or I crack the screen.
DO you NEED a new phone? Can you afford 350 in throw away cash?
Those are the only two things I can see stopping someone from buying anything.
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I don't "Need" a new phone but I do "really really really want" one. I'm assuming you're talking about $350? In the UK the 16GB is only priced £280 (plus a little for postage). I can definitely afford this amount for the phone.
Ok, thanks for all the comments. My mind is made up, I'm getting the N4 as soon as it comes back in stock in the Play Store. Hopefully the Google Wireless charger will have been launched by then as well so I can have phone + accessories from day 1.
I managed to place my order bang on 3pm went it came back in stock in UK on Wednesday. It's already been delivered at home so I'll get a chance to play with it when I get back. Less than 43 hours from placing order to being delivered is pretty good. Looks like Google has definitely gotten their act together. I also see that they are still in stock showing 1 to 2 weeks shipping (which is what it said when I placed my order) so it's all looking very positive.
Ignore this, you've already got it lol
Enjoy
Hahah this thread is a fail/tool/troll nothing is bandwagon about the nexus 4, without forums you wouldn't have known about it..and BTW the gs3/note 2 are bandwagon devices...so what if its been out for 3 months its only been available 3 times since release...not even iPhone or any device has sold like that
"Vanilla android >jail broken iOS>90" TV's"
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Hahah this thread is a fail/tool/troll
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Actually it was a genuine question which everyone EXCEPT YOU seemed to have noticed.
androidfoshizzle said:
nothing is bandwagon about the nexus 4
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There's nothing negative about the term bandwagon (definition: joining a growing movement in support of someone or something). In my eyes it is a bandwagon as more and more people are starting to realise the benefit of a Pure Google Experience device.
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without forums you wouldn't have known about it
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Wrong again, do you honestly believe everyone gets new information just from forums? There are many other sources of information and I actually first heard about it from the many Android blogs I follow.
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so what if its been out for 3 months its only been available 3 times since release...not even iPhone or any device has sold like that
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Comparing based on the number of times it has sold out is pointless unless you factor in the number of units available each time. If they released it in smaller batches then I'm sure they would have more than 3 "sell outs".
The content of your post is both pointless and unhelpful as it is but the fact that you wrote it after I already posted that I've purchased the device AND taken delivery takes it to a whole new level. *slow clap*
Techno79 said:
Actually it was a genuine question which everyone EXCEPT YOU seemed to have noticed.
There's nothing negative about the term bandwagon (definition: joining a growing movement in support of someone or something). In my eyes it is a bandwagon as more and more people are starting to realise the benefit of a Pure Google Experience device.
Wrong again, do you honestly believe everyone gets new information just from forums? There are many other sources of information and I actually first heard about it from the many Android blogs I follow.
Comparing based on the number of times it has sold out is pointless unless you factor in the number of units available each time. If they released it in smaller batches then I'm sure they would have more than 3 "sell outs".
The content of your post is both pointless and unhelpful as it is but the fact that you wrote it after I already posted that I've purchased the device AND taken delivery takes it to a whole new level. *slow clap*
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Thus thread is useless
"Vanilla android >jail broken iOS>90" TV's"
Motorola is still looking for a product manager for the X-Phone, so it isn't THAT close, and it's biggest advantage over the N4 will be probably be a 1080p screen, which is nigh-moot on a phone. It will probably have LTE variants, too.
Buy it.
Techno79 said:
Actually it was a genuine question which everyone EXCEPT YOU seemed to have noticed.
There's nothing negative about the term bandwagon (definition: joining a growing movement in support of someone or something). In my eyes it is a bandwagon as more and more people are starting to realise the benefit of a Pure Google Experience device.
Wrong again, do you honestly believe everyone gets new information just from forums? There are many other sources of information and I actually first heard about it from the many Android blogs I follow.
Comparing based on the number of times it has sold out is pointless unless you factor in the number of units available each time. If they released it in smaller batches then I'm sure they would have more than 3 "sell outs".
The content of your post is both pointless and unhelpful as it is but the fact that you wrote it after I already posted that I've purchased the device AND taken delivery takes it to a whole new level. *slow clap*
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Nice one you made him look like a right tool.
Hi folks,
I was planing to buy the N4, but, seriously, after almost 6 months of the launch date, I don't know if it still is a great buy or if I should wait for the next wave of cellphones coming this spring (and if there are good phones upcoming).
Any clues on a better cellphone than N4 ? (I was also thinking about the Optimus, the one with the best hardware specs, but I have the same doubt, is it worth right now?)
Thanks!
I say if price is a concern then the N4 is the most bang for your buck.
I honestly did not need this thing but I am glad that I got it (coming from G2X running CM7).
Running stock unrooted (for now) and still happy (odd, I know)
Naa...
The Google I/O Come In May so wait two monthes for the X Phone or next nexus ...
From the phone that I have, I shouldn't even think and buy it right away (I'm using an old HTC Diamond touch, was using a BB but a thief robbed me 2 months ago...), but I'm not really sure if I buy it today, tomorrow I won't be sad due to a launch of a new version or really better phone, I mean, it's been around 6 months since the current generation of smartphones started (quad-cores @1.5Ghz [S4] 2GB ram), I wonder if the next gen (either 8-core or @2.5 or S5 or more ram, or even better video processors) will be launched really soon or will take at last more 6 months or so..
Anyone that has more information and is more into it, know something or have any hint on what to do ?
@Omer, that is my biggest concern, I wonder if they will really launch the next X Phone there (since they said that it isn't time yet for a new Nexus) and since I saw some news saying that the X-Phone won't be topmost hardware but will be the better price/hardware equivalency, I wonder if it will be really better than the upcoming Samsung S4 or perpahps the next gen upcoming HTC phone.
AW: [Q] Is it worth ?
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From the phone that I have, I shouldn't even think and buy it right away (I'm using an old HTC Diamond touch, was using a BB but a thief robbed me 2 months ago...), but I'm not really sure if I buy it today, tomorrow I won't be sad due to a launch of a new version or really better phone, I mean, it's been around 6 months since the current generation of smartphones started (quad-cores @1.5Ghz [S4] 2GB ram), I wonder if the next gen (either 8-core or @2.5 or S5 or more ram, or even better video processors) will be launched really soon or will take at last more 6 months or so..
Anyone that has more information and is more into it, know something or have any hint on what to do ?
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And what do you want to do with an 8 core processor and more than 2 gigs of RAM? Dude, seriously. I can't even imagine how to use the Nexus while 2 gigs of RAM or all four cores at max frequency except for weird games with, for a phone, great graphics but generally bad controls.
That said I think the manufacturers should start focussing on other things than processors and RAM. Today's generation of phones got enough resources. It seems that in the future we will see big improvements in the phones displays. See 1080p and flexible displays. Especially flexible displays could really change the way we use smart phones but I doubt we will see that in 2013.
Just wait what manufacturers show on MWC. Then think about if you really need the ridiciulous specs shown there and furthermore think about the fact that the N4 will be supported by Google for at least two years.
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First of all, it's been exactly 4 months since the release, not 6.
If you keep the mentality of "waiting for the next best thing" you'll never buy anything because there's always a next best thing around the corner. Whatever phone you decide to buy, it's not gonna be the greatest thing for more than a few months and you'll just have to live with that.
There's already the wave of 5", 1080p, 13MP phones coming out, but the reason why the N4 is still attractive is all those new phones will still cost 600+ off contract.
No one's stopping you from waiting another 6 months, but that's 6 months you could've been enjoying a good phone. I had one before and that HTC Diamond is some hot garbage.
Yep I was thinking about this 2 things too, what will be the upgrade in Phone X / next Nexus ?
Google usually do have major differences between the releases, so I'm really curious about the next phone, I'm wondering if the features that this new one gonna have will be amazing (it doens't really need to be better proc. or ram, as you said, we currently don't even use it all), but will be the next "awesome feature", and I'm worried to buy now beucase there seems to be so little time left for the next wave that really holds me back of buying it today.
Btw, @100eyes that is another concern, the price, from the leaks, and news and blabla, it seems that Phone X will be coming with a lower price basis.
The mistery on it is holding me more than anything, if I already knew some of the new features, probably I would buy today the N4 as it seem to be more than good enough for me (I have a N7 and I love the proc and all the things, and it is slower than the N4 LG)
Btw, about the release date, the wide release was 4 months agora (end of october) but the first release to a restricted public and testing public was 6 months ago, I'm talking about knowing what you gonna get and not what I'll really have my hands on in 1 or 2 months, I was planning on a max 4 months from now timegap.
Anyway, those 2 answers were pretty good, this topic is more to make a discussion of the real value than to make me decide hehe
Get the Nexus 4, you won't regret!
I say pull the trigger. coming from a G2x as well I couldnt be happier with rooted stock. All of the threads you see around here with people complaining are either
a) legitimate issues that can only be resolved by RMA. Its very possible to receive a faulty unit.
b) complete and utter retardation.
The threads complaining about "washed" out colors and other things such as that are completely bias and you really shouldnt let that effect your decision. Hope that helps!
Hey guys,
I have a one plus one, the one plus 2 does look good, but my question here simply is: For those of you that own it, is it worth it? I'm on the fence about getting one and would like advice on this from people who actually own it and have first hand experience with it!
Kind Regards,
haynes11
apart of getting a little hot while playing games its amazing but nowadays the development is in very early stages, but i dont own a opo so i dont know if the diferences worth the money
Only you can really say if it's worth it. If you have the money and you want one then why not? If money is tight and your OP1 is still going strong then why not wait for next years model?
That's fair enough! I'm guessing it's a tad buggy still? If I do decide I want one from your guys advice I'll probably wait a while till it's stable!
I've not encountered any bugs, phone is solid as a rock, battery life is great. There are a few things about Oxygen I'd change but then I've never yet had a phone I didn't 'customise' to suit me better.
It's the same for when the OPO was first released. Bugs and battery life issues and even manufacturing issues. I own both and unless you want the camera and really want to stick with OnePlus, I don't think it's worth it if you already have the OPO. With the mature roms and kernel of the OPO, I'm not impressed at all with the OP2. I would just wait for it to mature before getting it unless you're like me and don't mind paying for immediate and current releases. Maybe when Android M comes out it'll be better but as it stands, without that and non existent hacks for fingerprint sensor, no rom has support for it.
There are numerous other threads where the same or similar question has already been asked. There is no need for yet another "Should I buy it" type thread.
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I want to talk about how disappointed I am about Elephone in general. I really thougt buying this phone (P9000) would be fun and give me more flexibility for custom roms. I bought my phone in august 2016 and was really excited about the features and hardware. Now Im tired about a phone running unstable on almost every rom. Not talking about the worst support I´ve ever seen. Im switching to sony...was not disappointed to see what able to do with there roms and hardware. I bought my girlfriend a Xperia Z1 and hey...strange it works..everything is running great. For myself I ordered now the Xperia Z5 Premium dual...
Wanted to say thank you to every developer who is trying to bring stability to the P9000. Sry about my english...
kind regards,
Benni
I have a P9000 for about 10 months now. It's an okay phone. I don't have that many issues with it, my worst issue with it: GPS is very laggy. For the rest I'm okay with it. Not overly excited though.
General experience that I got from the Elephone forum: The company sells phones with great specs, but their quality control lacks. I got sort of lucky with my P9000, but many have all sort of hardware issues with battery, bluetooth, etc.
The customer service is zero to none. My advice: stay away from buying Elephone
Yeah I can see your point exactly and can understand why you have moved to another brand. I'm doing the same very shortly.
I have been using my P9000 over 12 months now and to be fair my P9000 has been hardware issue free (thankfully) and as its been an okay phone considering what I paid for it. There was a time I enthusiastically promoted this phone for its specs and price point.
It must be said though, in order to get my P9000 to a state of being usable as a daily driver I have had to do many fixes, changing ROMs etc.. The GPS (as highlighted above) seems to be one of the main frustrations many face and although a software fix is available, the overall GPS performance is still pretty poor even after this fix.
It certainly wasn't a great phone to use "straight outta the box" so to speak. Flashing ROMs etc (for me anyway) wasn't a major issue but for the everyday customer who perhaps isn't into flashing new ROMs etc it must be a real frustration for those customers - after all it seems Elephone's main answer to most of their customers issues is (you guessed it) reflash the ROM or change to custom ROM. (which most of the time doesn't resolve the issue anyway!)
Sadly, although great specs for its price the P9000 has been let down by poor buggy ROMs / software. and if I may add poor backup/support & communication from Elephone. I think many who are awaiting the Nougat update are hoping most of the issues will be resolved (recent post of Elephone forum indicates they have addressed the fingerprint scanner issue and Nougat to be released very soon) and I really hope for the sake of these customers this update delivers.
And yes, I am so thankful for the time of the many Devs who have provided custom ROMs to make using this phone less of a hassle.
Good to hear you are enjoying your new Sony handset ;0)
Yesterday my new sony arrived... I cant find words how freakin awesome this phone is Thank you both for your opinions.
Have ditched my Elephone p9000
I have had this phone since its launch in April 2016.
It is a fast phone. The screen is nice.
It looks good.
However, it is too odd.
The camera is crap in low light.
The updates are unreliable and since August 2016, I can't update via OTA.
Elephone have cocked things up.
The battery life is getting seriously poor.
I can no longer link the phone with Windows 10.
SD card issues as well.
Because it is Chinese, SKY don't recognise it, neither do NFC certifiers.
I have a P9000 lite since 12/2016 and I can't say that I'm disappointed or anything. Flashed CM13 from Deepflex and it works pretty well.
Guess I have been lucky so far. Can't say much about the support though, but it seems like it's absolutely terrible...
I think my next phone is going to be a Xiaomi though, they seem to be better and still provide good hardware for a good price. So yeah, while I didn't have any issues with my P9000 lite so far, I see how many issues other people have AND the terrible support...that's reason enough for me to not support Elephone anymore.
Swapped my p9000 for a Samsung S7 edge and am delighted with it.
The Samsung is a quality phone in all ways ....the Elephone is NOT!
Oddly enough I will miss using my Elephone but not the company that makes it.
Goodbye to all things Elephone including this forum of people's misfortunes with Elephone.
On to better things .......
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Swapped my p9000 for a Samsung S7 edge and am delighted with it.
The Samsung is a quality phone in all ways ....the Elephone is NOT!
Oddly enough I will miss using my Elephone but not the company that makes it.
Goodbye to all things Elephone including this forum of people's misfortunes with Elephone.
On to better things .......
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What about the price difference? You can not compare a P9000 against an S7 edge...
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What about the price difference? You can not compare a P9000 against an S7 edge...
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Well on the face of it no ... the S7 edge handset costs three times what an Elephone p9000 costs.
HOWEVER, it is not all about that ... it's more to do with what I pay over two years and VALUE FOR MONEY!
The Elephone cost me £184 and to use it I had a SIM deal at £8 per month. Over two years that is £192 to the phone company.
Total of Elephone p9000 and two year's SIM = £376.
Now you can get a S7 edge brand new, no upfront cost for £27 per month for 24 months (and that is slowly coming down because of the S8)
That is £27x24 = £648 everything in.
Now the difference is £648 - £376 = £272
Now let's share that over 104 weeks = £2.62 per week more.
So for Two pounds sixty two pence more a week I have a state of the art Samsung Galaxy S7 edge compared with an Elephone p9000, which doesn't even work properly and is next to worthless!
My S7 is running on Android 7.0 nougat, I would probably be dead before Elephone could update me to that.
The reason being is that as of August 20016 Elephone rendered my Elephone p9000 incapable of updating at all. And they have NEVER rectified this for many users (and lost customers).
And if Elephone think that users are going to mess about flashing ROMs to rectify this, then they are deluded!
The simple fact is the whole Elephone p9000 experience was a nightmare.
I hope this helps.
I've been Disappointed in Sony (Z1,Z2) HTC One M7/M8 Samsung S2/S4 Note 2 and 3 at one one or another it is part of modern life you get sold one thing by BIG company's and in the end over time it becomes something else, The S7 is now over a year old Samsung will slowly stop supporting it like the S5 and the Notes the S6 is slowly losing support it happens get on with it that is why people come to XDA to fix things and extend the life of the devices.
How people can go off at tangents is a never ending source of amazement.
This is about what a useless piece of property that Elephone has rendered the p9000.
Hence comparisons are relevant.
Yes we all know support is conditional and time dependent. But Elephone are taking the Michael.
If you think this forum is being criticised and conflating it with criticism of Elephone then think again.
People shouldn't have to scrat about on xda to find fixes for what Elephone should fix for them.
i honestly dont get what problems some guys have? from what i hear about the desire to have custom roms while expecting everything to work 100% right out of the box? i mean in what universe do you live?
if you want something that "just works" buy an iphone.
Elephone and mostly all other chinese manufacturers are still at the beginning in making their own stuff, yet it is incredible how far they have come. if you take samsung as the biggest manufacturer - elephone can keep up. samsung support is not less horrible than elephones. but their phone is at least open for development and the manufacturer kinda shows emphasis with us customers.
tldr;
dont buy a phone for little money when you dont want to put some effort in it to make it work for you.
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i honestly dont get what problems some guys have? from what i hear about the desire to have custom roms while expecting everything to work 100% right out of the box? i mean in what universe do you live?
if you want something that "just works" buy an iphone.
Elephone and mostly all other chinese manufacturers are still at the beginning in making their own stuff, yet it is incredible how far they have come. if you take samsung as the biggest manufacturer - elephone can keep up. samsung support is not less horrible than elephones. but their phone is at least open for development and the manufacturer kinda shows emphasis with us customers.
tldr;
dont buy a phone for little money when you dont want to put some effort in it to make it work for you.
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100% get a contract live with it for 24 months and don't even bought with XDA, I don't lick IPhone but you have to say something Apple know how to offer surport but even they don't surport phone foe even.
I am not sure how £184 counts as little money.
I also think that if you buy anything you expect it to work and be fit for purpose.
I bought a Chinese phone for my grandson at Christmas for £106 .... a Cubot. I can't rememember the model. It is on Amazon and has an animal name.
It has not quite got the specs of the p9000. But do you know what? He likes it better than my defunct p9000. The screen is brighter for a start. The p9000 might have nice vibrant colours but the screen is dull, just like the awful photos it takes.
He has had no problems with the Cubot.
I had many problems with the p9000.
SD card recognition problems. SIM card problems. Awful photo problems. Battery life problems. Fingerprint recognition problems. Interface problems. Rogue phone dialling problems.
I also damaged the Jack port so stereo only came out of the left channel. Thus was achieved by catching the speaker lead in a door handle and yanking the plug out.
An accident yes. Not the phone's fault. But just how does one get it fixed?
There are only a few people in the UK that can work on Elephone phones because of lack of parts.
Whereas parts from the big phone companies are plentiful.
Don't buy an Elephone p9000 ... just don't.
On the plus side ....
Because of my mistake in buying a Elephone p9000, I got all the necessary impetus to get a proper phone .... the S7 edge.
Now I have a phone that does what I want AND I also have the Elephone that I can now play with and experiment with.
I can follow the tutorials on here and get it back to where it should be if the August 2016 update ****-up had never happened.
I can do this without fear of bricking it, since it is only a spare phone residing in a cupboard at present.
No way would I have attempted messing with it if it was my primary phone.
So now the useless piece of crap can become a hobby for me.
It's a funny old world.
My primary message is still the same ... get a proper phone!
At launch the phone cost between £170 to £200 depending, if you Google the phrase "problems with the galaxy s7" you'll find page after page of reported problem for a phone that at launch would have if bought cost over £600, I used the P9000 for over a year did it have some problems, yes! but my point being all phones have problems I have sat at my computer and complained about I come to XDA as i have for the past 7 or 8 years read up what people with a bit more knowledge than me have to say and have used that knowledge to get things working.
I would suggest there are pages of problems on other phones because more people buy them.
It's a percentage thing.
And I would suggest that the percentage of people having problems with the p9000 is 100%.
You need to understand that only a miniscule percentage of people want to or have the ability or time to mess about with getting their phone right.
Some people do and find their way to xda and can solve it.
So xda serves a valuable purpose.
But that is NOT the issue here .....
Unless in some bizarre way you are defending Elephone because people can come to xda and fix their wrongs?
There are two separate issues here ... one of which is Elephone is ****!
I'm not defending them i have nothing to gain by that, just not into attacking them either as as far as I'm was concerned i went in with my eyes open and I'm not willing to attract something that for at the very least worked the way it should, as a phone make calls send texts receive email that a few pictures (i have a DSLR) on top of everything it was cheap and that is why i never expect a great deal from it.
Fair play. And I am not having a go at you.
However when I bought my Elephone p9000 direct from Hong Kong via Amazon, I was excited at the prospect of a high end spec phone at a competitive price.
I did not go in blind.
I read ALL the reviews ... they were universally GOOD.
My expectations were HIGH unlike yours.
This was a phone to take on the big guys in the market on the face of it.
I paraded it in front of my friends. Clever me an Elephone p9000 and a cheap SIM deal. Wasn't I the clever one?
Except the experience was much different.
All these phone reviewers had never lived with the phone for a year Never been party to Elephone updates and the limitations that came with them.
I have no special axe to grind with regard to Elephone.
I came to Elephone expecting cutting edge technology at Chinese prices.
I got Chinese prices.
honestly i think most of the problems with the elephone are positioned infront of the display.
sometimes i'm not sure if i have the same phone as everyone else? my screen isnt dull, fingerprint working just fine, camera is also okay for a phone, my sim card got recognized from day one and the sd card also after formating it correctly. (at least the sd problem doesnt appear on a phone like samsungs cuz they aint got no sd slot).
and by the way... 200$ is a bargain for what you get! an namebrand phone costs easily 4-5 times as much.
your argument with repairs is the best thing.. "samsung parts are available" do you think that they are available because samsung phones never break or because the repair shops know they will need the part to fix the stuff apple and samsung charge you 400 bucks?
i'm pretty pleased with the p9000, especially because you get a lot for the money. definitely a better deal than a comparable phone from a namebrand manufacturer!
Hello Everyone,
I've been a long time fan of Google's Nexus phones, but with the large Pixel price-tag, I'm starting to at least consider other things. I'm hoping that someone can help by answering a few questions that I'm having trouble finding:
How is OnePlus with RMA / warranty issues? I've heard they're not the greatest with QA, albeit this was a while ago, but it's still a concern for me.
How is OnePlus with software updates? One of the reasons I stuck with the Nexus lineup was because of timely updates. Is OnePlus likely to stay current, or will Oreo take forever?
The $479 model is out of stock. How long does it take for them to usually replenish supply?
Will Android Auto work in a 2017 Civic EX-L? I've heard conflicting things from different cars out there.
If there are any other Nexus/Pixel people out there that could give their thoughts about the transition from stock Android to something different that would be great.
Thanks.
Acuity said:
Hello Everyone,
I've been a long time fan of Google's Nexus phones, but with the large Pixel price-tag, I'm starting to at least consider other things. I'm hoping that someone can help by answering a few questions that I'm having trouble finding:
How is OnePlus with RMA / warranty issues? I've heard they're not the greatest with QA, albeit this was a while ago, but it's still a concern for me.
How is OnePlus with software updates? One of the reasons I stuck with the Nexus lineup was because of timely updates. Is OnePlus likely to stay current, or will Oreo take forever?
The $479 model is out of stock. How long does it take for them to usually replenish supply?
Will Android Auto work in a 2017 Civic EX-L? I've heard conflicting things from different cars out there.
If there are any other Nexus/Pixel people out there that could give their thoughts about the transition from stock Android to something different that would be great.
Thanks.
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Coming from my first ever Android phone, the Nexus 6P, to my second, Pixel XL, and now the 5, it's a great device to move to!
Regarding RMAs
I bought this OP5 a while back, when I still had my Pixel XL and decided to return it just because I couldn't justify having both the XL and this at the same time. I later on decided to sell my XL to get max value for it, before the Pixel 2 came out. The return process was pretty simple for me, and they only deducted 4.99 out of the entire cost (for shipping). That's the only RMA/return experience I've had with them so that's all I can really say about it!
Software updates
They just came out with a new update that moved from (I think July) to September security patches and other various fixes/optimizations. They aren't as fast as Google, and a lot of users aren't too fond of that, but I'm not even on stock OOS so it's a non-issue for me. As for Oreo, I have no idea, sorry
Stock
Not too sure about this either, the first time I bought it, it had just released so I had to wait about 1.5 weeks for it to ship out, and the second time I bought it, it shipped out the next day, and arrived the day after that!
As for Android Auto, I don't use it so I can't help with that either, sorry!!
General thoughts
OOS is almost stock Android with a few nice additional features, so coming from Nexus/Pixel, I think you'll like that! Having hardware keys is nice as it gives you some screen back, battery life is awesome, can't tell the difference between 1440p and 1080p so screen is also awesome
Give it a try, again, I think you'll love it! I hope the info I was able to provide was of some help and hopefully other users can answer the questions I wasn't able to
I have the 3, 3T and 5. But outside of the 3, which I paid full retail for ($399.99), I have managed to score the others at big discounts. I got the 3T for $395.00 and the 5 for $416.00. Despite a 5-10% performance bump in each iteration, the difference between each device is marginal. Bottom line, I don't feel that the phone is worth what they are asking for it. Service was always good here in the US (for me), but I heard plenty of horror stories about OnePlus service. Most of those stories came from India, so this may be a regional thing. Software update have always been fast and timely for me, not so much for those that had previous models though. I am sorry, but I cannot answer your question about Android Auto, as I haven't used that, but I hope some of these things are of help to you in making your decision.
I can't really answer your questions I just got this phone a day ago, sold my s8 to get this.
Experience is much better then my s8. And honestly the fluidity and smoothness remind me of my Nexus 5.
So far I've been nothing but impressed.
Man, now both of them are sold out. I was planning on getting the 64gb version, but even with my student discount it's an ouch to my wallet >_< I wish I could try it before I buy it; I'm slightly concerned about the jelly scroll issue and other small issues that have cropped up here lately.