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Thought is was a Hardware limitation!
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/news/new-ota-out-92210-3-29-651-5/
Software Version: HTC - EVO 4G (A9292) - 3.29.651.5
Release Date: 9/22/2010
Update Method: Available OTA + Retail
Version History:
* Calendar Event Edit Issue
* Multiple Gmail Account Sync
* 30 FPS uncapped
* GPS Reboot
Thanks to Joeykrim for the tip
intresting
Hmmm sounds good..
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G using XDA app.
Don't forget "undoes root" as well. I haven't had the cap in a while and while it is good news for the folks who use stock ROMs I won't really gain much. The new Gmail app in the market already adds multiple accounts.
It would be nice if there was some way to download it, so that the Devs could get to work on it. Nice to see the changes, should make for some awesome ROMs when they get ahold of it.
This would mean ROMS can now have HDMI out at uncapped FPS now right??? From what I remember then you used HDMI itvout cap back down to 30. Am I wrong??
This is very possible. I actually just got back from my Sprint store because my 4G wont connect, i tried everything, restting my MAC address, new rom's new kernels, stock roms, going back to the original and everything but still couldnt fix it.
while i was there, an HTC rep came in and was talking to the employees and was wondering how the EVO was doing vs the Epic (EVO was selling way more than the epic if anyone wondered - at least at this particular store) He also mentioned that there was going to be an OTA update released on or around the 29th. He said it was going to be a minor update tho, it wouldn't effect battery life much but they are also working on an update for the future as well. He said that they are trying to develop software that updates everything at the same time instead of facebook updating, then twitter, and so on. This will help the radio from turning on and off and on and off so that should help. i wonder if the FPS was the update he was talking about for the 29th... we will see!
hm, so would this phone be getting 60fps?
ms79723 said:
hm, so would this phone be getting 60fps?
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probably not 60, but over 30 anyway. I'm going to guess around 53. Anyone know how long it will take to see how they did it?
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Not sure about 60fps but the way I understand it, a digital video out like that needs a set refresh rate. If you typically fluctuate between 45-55fps without the cap it wouldn't work over a digital connection like HDMI. Therefore, they capped it at a typical 30fps (which is comparable to the 29.97fps of NTSC television).
I guess the smart thing would have been to use software that automatically regulated the framerate when you output to the HDMI and not for anything else. Trying to scale it on the fly would be too difficult and it would have to be a refresh rate that your display was even capable of. If your phone can't push a steady 60fps then it's not like you could just set it to "variable refresh rate of anywhere from 40-56fps". Think of it like hooking up an LCD monitor to your computer. You need to define the resolution and refresh rate. If your game is playing at 92fps because you have a badass video card but your monitor is set at 1920x1080 at 85Hz, you will not actually "see" 92fps. You will see 85fps because that is how fast your screen refreshes. I guess without vsync you could have it update mid-refresh but then you see tearing.
Is it just me or is there no link ?
the news link is in the original post, but the actual "download" update apparently comes in the form of an OTA tommorrow.
Like I said over in the "Evo capping all graphics to 30FPS" thread. Not a single data sheet on any of the hardware had 30fps as it's limit and that HTC would look stupid if they kept saying it was the hardware.
Will we see 1080p/60 (yes, the HDMI transmitter can do that) I doubt it because the GPU is the weak spot in the equation. Now we just need to see how the fps deviations look and if they're cleaner than the custom roms (not hold my breath) then expect a new wave of custom roms to land.
So, will this HTC fix for the fps be any better than our current custom kernel fixes? Also, any chance this might be used on the hdmi out really?? or just fps for videos/games etc.??
btw:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=699290
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/news/new-ota-out-92210-3-29-651-5/
i believe this will actually be better cause if they brake the cap mean that you will not be stop by it in any way. right now every kernel can do max around 55fps, even when you play simple games like laberinth which is suppost to be 60fps, it will only reach 53-55. Playing in my nexus1 the games is a 60fps rock solid.
rjmjr69 said:
Thought is was a Hardware limitation!
http://forum.sdx-developers.com/news/new-ota-out-92210-3-29-651-5/
Software Version: HTC - EVO 4G (A9292) - 3.29.651.5
Release Date: 9/22/2010
Update Method: Available OTA + Retail
Version History:
* Calendar Event Edit Issue
* Multiple Gmail Account Sync
* 30 FPS uncapped
* GPS Reboot
Thanks to Joeykrim for the tip
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Joe Wilson "YOU LIE!"
"yawn"...
anyone running custom roms hasn't dealt with the 30 fps issue in awhile, so, this means nothing to most folks who are rooted and running a custom rom..
wase4711 said:
"yawn"...
anyone running custom roms hasn't dealt with the 30 fps issue in awhile, so, this means nothing to most folks who are rooted and running a custom rom..
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i think it will, current custom kernels are capped about 53-55, the extra 5-8 fps will still make it a little smoother
i guess if you play lots of games on your phone, you might see a difference..
Well I for one am excited
Updated to the official OTA JB update a few weeks ago, and at first thing seemed great. The UI looked smooth and things seemed to have an increased efficiency. However ive noticed over the last week that things have been going wrong.
Delays opening and exiting apps, dialler being even slower than normal ( i know this has been an issue for others).
Looking at the device's ram usage its been at the 800mb mark, which i thought was quite high.
Anyone else been having similar probs?
Cheers
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Updated to the official OTA JB update a few weeks ago, and at first thing seemed great. The UI looked smooth and things seemed to have an increased efficiency. However ive noticed over the last week that things have been going wrong.
Delays opening and exiting apps, dialler being even slower than normal ( i know this has been an issue for others).
Looking at the device's ram usage its been at the 800mb mark, which i thought was quite high.
Anyone else been having similar probs?
Cheers
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Try wiping cache from CWM.
should of also mentioned im unrooted.
is that still possible?
thanks
opencube said:
should of also mentioned im unrooted.
is that still possible?
thanks
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The stock recovery only has a factory reset option (deletes your data and apps).
Alright, did you install any new apps before the problem happened? Any dodgy widgets? What's the service using the most amount of RAM? (Settings -> Application Manager -> Running -> Most app using ram, look at the one with the highest MB's).
opencube said:
Updated to the official OTA JB update a few weeks ago, and at first thing seemed great. The UI looked smooth and things seemed to have an increased efficiency. However ive noticed over the last week that things have been going wrong.
Delays opening and exiting apps, dialler being even slower than normal ( i know this has been an issue for others).
Looking at the device's ram usage its been at the 800mb mark, which i thought was quite high.
Anyone else been having similar probs?
Cheers
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One its a question .
Two i would backup data and factory reset first .
jje
largest running apps being:
Settings 67mb
Google services 22mb
Samsung Keyboard 21mb
Viber 13mb
Facebook 17mb
The rest are under 10mb
Same happened to me, I factory reset the phone and it runs too good to be true. Also disabled some bloat in app settings,not sure how much difference its specifically made but the phone flies.
Additionally there are 4 settings that will speed up your phone, allow dev options to be on, find force GPU rendering and turn it on. Then above that there should be 3 settings that each allow numerical settings, set each of the 3 to 0.5 to reduce the time that your phone loads up advanced displays animations.
You're welcome.
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From what I remember force gpu rendering causes apps to use a lot more ram. Could be wrong but it will probably be an issue for those who complain about low ram.
I know it might seem a bit obvious but have you switched Power Saving Mode on?
Because for half a day I was convinced something was seriously wrong and thinking the worst until that face palm moment when I saw the icon lit up.
I definitely notice an increase in performance with it on but haven't noticed any adverse affects like more ram consumption, in fact the only problem ever was that the app androidify didn't work
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Scrap that, having just tested, I experienced significant less RAM usage and a better fps with force GPU on, perhaps you heard that out affects the battery negatively? I don't know but it works wonders for me
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well before i could tinker and try out the suggestions here it seems like my phone has had a dose of Sudden Death syndrome.
Wont turn on, charge or anything.
Anyone else had this in Uk and could tell me process of getting a new device or repair?
Thanks
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Then above that there should be 3 settings that each allow numerical settings, set each of the 3 to 0.5 to reduce the time that your phone loads up advanced displays animations.
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Does this actually reduce the loading time? As far as I understand this setting just plays the animation at double speed, so it makes your UI appear snappier.
Minimally I assume because it's not processing the animation so much. In all honesty I can't give a definitive answer though.
I think forcing GPU does though because your processor is free top load up all the back ground processes while your GPU loads the visual aspects, efficiency is always the best way and most things on jelly bean should be optimised for it.
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The update for the Android 7.0 Nougat, Customized AU 32.3.A.0.372 - has been pulled from the update server and is no longer available.
Would be rather interested in the reason why is has been pulled again...
The rumors say mainly because of the audio bug with low speaker volume
Sony have acknowledged it:
“We were made aware of reports from some users experiencing inconsistencies related to audio playback via third-party apps and SD card encrypted data read performance, after upgrading to Android 7.0, Nougat. We’ve identified the root cause and are aiming to provide corrective firmware and re-commence the rollout as soon as possible.”
This is good news and hopefully we will get stable, much less buggy releases after a while. I am willing to wait even a whole month just to make sure the release is stable and well-tested, that it has resolved issues with heat emissions, general SoT usage and memory load, and battery optimization.
It's better to wait and get something decent rather than to rush and get the buggy builds. I advise against installing the non-approved versions, you will likely get audio issues, maybe even corrupt your SD card contents.
brokich said:
Sony have acknowledged it:
“We were made aware of reports from some users experiencing inconsistencies related to audio playback via third-party apps and SD card encrypted data read performance, after upgrading to Android 7.0, Nougat. We’ve identified the root cause and are aiming to provide corrective firmware and re-commence the rollout as soon as possible.”
This is good news and hopefully we will get stable, much less buggy releases after a while. I am willing to wait even a whole month just to make sure the release is stable and well-tested, that it has resolved issues with heat emissions, general SoT usage and memory load, and battery optimization.
It's better to wait and get something decent rather than to rush and get the buggy builds. I advise against installing the non-approved versions, you will likely get audio issues, maybe even corrupt your SD card contents.
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Just played music on Spotify with the loudspeakers and the volume is seriously so low. I don't know if it's just me, but the device seems to be running a little hotter than usual. But anyways, hoping for a better update!
iArvee said:
Just played music on Spotify with the loudspeakers and the volume is seriously so low. I don't know if it's just me, but the device seems to be running a little hotter than usual. But anyways, hoping for a better update!
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I guess I'm extremely lucky. No problems with the speakers or heat. It just runs smooth as hell! Maybe this update will address other bugs that w e haven't picked up on yet.
I'm using Customized SA. experiencing speakers audio bug. first 5 secs the audio is good . after that volume goes very low. seriously i don't know what developers were doing during audio testing
Hey,
Can anyone download the australian version even if my phone is from USA?
kornjeep said:
Hey,
Can anyone download the australian version even if my phone is from USA?
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Yep. It'll still work.
It would be really interesting to get official status information from Sony about the Nougat bugs and the progress of fixing them... More than 3 weeks has passed and still no new update or even proper official word from them.
(I try to keep up with the official Sony channels and 3rd party news sites etc. but I might have missed some information, official or otherwise. Feel free to chime in if you know something.)
Today I got "Android system update is available" notification.
But when I clicked it, it says "System up-do-date", refreshing does not change anything
Even worse - I can't even remove this notification...
I am facing the audio volume bug too. No high temperature or other problems found.
Only the fingerprint scanner is crappy as always. 6/10 tries is a miss...
Also I dislike the new quicksettings tiles... 4 taps instead of 2 in order to enable 4G + mob data.
Also the X over the signal bars when mobile data are disabled is misleading....
Anybody know of a fix for the ridiculous amount of lag on Pie? Between that and the sad excuse of video recording, I'm really debating on going back to my buttery smooth Z2force. The only problem is this phone is pure eye candy, comfortable to hold, and my hands have betrayed my eyes recognition of the lag and fell in love this phone. . The performance is more like snapdragon 620 than 835. Any help regarding this situation would be highly appreciated
I have no lag on Pie, beta 3 or official. Sounds like your due for a full wipe
Well now that sucks considering I just moved about 90gigs to the device and thought I did a full wipe but just notice Alexa still installed. The funny thing is I had very little late lag on Beta 3.
mookiexl said:
Well now that sucks considering I just moved about 90gigs to the device and thought I did a full wipe but just notice Alexa still installed. The funny thing is I had very little late lag on Beta 3.
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I discovered this a month ago and it helps.just go to root/system/buildprop. Add the following to right under additional build settings.then reboot. That's the default setting, but u can mess with the value to get it to your liking
You're only saying there is lag, you're not describing where you are seeing this lag?
The only thing I can say is I thought apps would open faster on this, I have a phone with a SD625, and between this and the Essential, opening and closing apps seems like the same speed. But the startup on the Essential is faster...
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You're only saying there is lag, you're not describing where you are seeing this lag?
The only thing I can say is I thought apps would open faster on this, I have a phone with an SD625, and between this and the Essential, opening and closing apps seems like the same speed. But the startup on the Essential is faster...
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Scrolling in-app, swiping in-app and launcher, and also scrolling cards in recents. I have a z2force with SD835 and comparing this phone to the z2 this phone feels like an SD626
mookiexl said:
Scrolling in-app, swiping in-app and launcher, and also scrolling cards in recents. I have a z2force with SD835 and comparing this phone to the z2 this phone feels like an SD626
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If I were you, I'd wipe everything, and then fastboot the full official pie update. Just to fully eliminate software.
Hi there I am the same boat like you . I got lag typing on keyboard scroll is not smooth at all .I tried reinstalling the latest build and factory full reset pus wipe all data .I can't resolve the lag I think they rush to get it in the same date like the pixel but is not optimised for this device for example get an icon and hold it and get it to place it in another location you will find out that the icon is behind when you move it
The only and I think temporary fix is by doing this
Go and click 5 times on build number and go in developer settings you will find there touch sensitivity set it to 10 let say default is 4 I think . You will improve touch latency a bit .
I just bought the device I don't know how it was on Oreo but I can say on this pie build official is not smooth
@mookiexl got to the Developer Options;
Windows animation scale - off
Transition animation scale - off or .5x
Animator duration scale - off or .5x
Also increasing the 'Touch Sensitivity' increases the scrolling speed.
Play with these and watch it fly! LOL
It would be great if someone can take a video so we can actually see this lag with our own eyes.
I just got my phone and it turned out bad, sending it back, new one on the way. It makes me wonder now if all the stories about bad hardware is true on these phones, since I've never had a bad phone ever in my life, then my first Essential turns out bad.
Wifi problems connecting
Statusbar icons appearing in white, turn all black
Phone speaker, bad quality, can't even turn it up, or it gets distorted
Head speaker, is low, volume isn't loud enough
Adaptive brightness doesn't work
Volume got stuck at one point when it was set as all the way down, no sound, then I wasn't able turn the sound back on, nothing would happen on either buttons...
So hopefully new phone arriving will be better, and from this experience, I think I'll keep it on Oreo for a long time, until people start raving over Pie.
And between a SD625 and this SD835, can't say I saw a big speed difference too... hmm
post error...
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@mookiexl got to the Developer Options;
Windows animation scale - off
Transition animation scale - off or .5x
Animator duration scale - off or .5x
Also increasing the 'Touch Sensitivity' increases the scrolling speed.
Play with these and watch it fly! LOL
It would be great if someone can take a video so we can actually see this lag with our own eyes.
I just got my phone and it turned out bad, sending it back, new one on the way. It makes me wonder now if all the stories about bad hardware is true on these phones, since I've never had a bad phone ever in my life, then my first Essential turns out bad.
Wifi problems connecting
Statusbar icons appearing in white, turn all black
Phone speaker, bad quality, can't even turn it up, or it gets distorted
Head speaker, is low, volume isn't loud enough
Adaptive brightness doesn't work
Volume got stuck at one point when it was set as all the way down, no sound, then I wasn't able turn the sound back on, nothing would happen on either buttons...
So hopefully new phone arriving will be better, and from this experience, I think I'll keep it on Oreo for a long time, until people start raving over Pie.
And between a SD625 and this SD835, can't say I saw a big speed difference too... hmm
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I hear ya brother. To be fair I haven't had any of those other problems I heard about before buying the phone besides what's mentioned in this thread. 3rd party camera apps with full manual control drastically improved camera quality for my device. If you want to see the lag I'm taking about just YouTube it.
As far as SD625 and Sd835, there's a huge difference for me being a power user. Lots of gaming, editing videos, download big files, or even just transferring data from internal to external sd you will definitely see a big difference in performance during any memory extensive task.
@mookiexl
Do you know any YouTube videos with the same issues you're having, you can show us?
I only found one for Camera Portrait Lag.
Fastboot install of 9.0 over the official July 8.1. Magisk root.
No device lag or issues with WiFi, volume or any of the things above. The only lag I see is my own getting to grips with the UI changes.
USOpen device used in the UK.
It sounds like you're both having some kind of install/integrity issue. Did you test the checksum?
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@mookiexl
Do you know any YouTube videos with the same issues you're having, you can show us?
I only found one for Camera Portrait Lag.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbw_TUnfXuU
kboya said:
Fastboot install of 9.0 over the official July 8.1. Magisk root.
No device lag or issues with WiFi, volume or any of the things above. The only lag I see is my own getting to grips with the UI changes.
USOpen device used in the UK.
It sounds like you're both having some kind of install/integrity issue. Did you test the checksum?
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All I've done since receiving the device is take all system updates and then unlocked bootloader which in turn wipe data. See the video I posted for details. If you have another SD835 device to compare it too try tha,t or better yet don't because it will make the lag very bothersome once you know its there.
That video is a year old. I have no discernible lag even with upward of 20 apps in the background, but I'm not saying that you don't.
Also, I had this and a Google PXL at the same time up until a few weeks ago. If anything, the PH1 was better, smoother and faster.
I've got serious lag... Keyoress lag, stuttering during scrolling. Could it be because of RAM usage? The stats in developer options say that I using 3.4 out of 3.9 gb on average....
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I have no lag on Pie, beta 3 or official. Sounds like your due for a full wipe
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Can you explain how I dod a full wipe?
Since the Dec update much less ram.locked up
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Since the Dec update much less ram.locked up
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I'm on November and ram management Is fine for me.
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You're busy and don't have time to wait, which is why you need to stop reading this thread and get back to organizing your Pogs. Rate this thread to express how the performs when multitasking. A higher rating indicates that the keeps many apps in memory so that they don't need to reload, and that when moving between apps, transitions are smooth and performance is excellent.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I don't know if it's app specific, but when playing a chinese game, Dengeki Bunko: Crossing Void, it's extremely unoptimised and laggy, it's just as if my RAM is at around 400mb spare. Extremely laggy.
Other than that, after only using it for half a day, my device is using around 4.4 GB of ram out of 6GB of RAM when IDLE.
RAM Optimisations need to happen in updates very soon. Again,
A little disappointed with the RAM management.
Anybody else?
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I don't know if it's app specific, but when playing a chinese game, Dengeki Bunko: Crossing Void, it's extremely unoptimised and laggy, it's just as if my RAM is at around 400mb spare. Extremely laggy.
Other than that, after only using it for half a day, my device is using around 4.4 GB of ram out of 6GB of RAM when IDLE.
RAM Optimisations need to happen in updates very soon. Again,
A little disappointed with the RAM management.
Anybody else?
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ugh, this post is so annoying. right. ram management on android... the more you use, the better your phone is. 4.4gb out of 6gb is not bad. if you have the 8gb oneplus 6, it uses around 5.5gb idle. when you have more ram, you can use more of it. no point having 6gb of ram and only having 2gb at idle
YakuzaNeko said:
I don't know if it's app specific, but when playing a chinese game, Dengeki Bunko: Crossing Void, it's extremely unoptimised and laggy, it's just as if my RAM is at around 400mb spare. Extremely laggy.
Other than that, after only using it for half a day, my device is using around 4.4 GB of ram out of 6GB of RAM when IDLE.
RAM Optimisations need to happen in updates very soon. Again,
A little disappointed with the RAM management.
Anybody else?
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These kind of comments... smh
Lack of RAM is not going to make your game laggy. Your game lacks optimization. Idle RAM = WASTED RAM. These ratings are pointless if idiotic comments like these are counted.
So I see that the ram management is quite aggressive. Today I switched from chrome to inbox to copy something. And chrome restarted the page and I had to start the form over again. Only clearing opened apps asked me to user it without reading the tab.
As gestures are a bit but I am trying XDA gestures and an early access FluiDN.G. which with fine for a few hours then close and disable the accessibility settings for each app. I have disabled auto power management of both applications and allow them to run in all situations. While this works for longer when opening the camera (worst offender) it shuts down the gesture apps and resets the accessibility settings
Other then that things have been as snappy as the one plus 6.
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So I see that the ram management is quite aggressive. Today I switched from come to inbox to copy something. And chrome restarted the page and I had to start the form over again. Only clearing opened apps asked me to user it without reading the tab.
As gestures are a bit but I am trying XDA gestures and an early access FluiDN.G. which with fine for a few hours then close and disable the accessibility settings for each app. I have disabled auto power management of both applications and allow them to run in all situations. While this works for longer when opening the camera (worst offender) it shuts down the gesture apps and resets the accessibility settings
Other then that things have been as snappy as the one plus 6.
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There's something with emui and accessibility settings. From my experience, on olther devices, I had to reapply the accessibility settings a few times until it stuck. It's a battle of wills between the phone and yourself.
As for gestures, I think I'm gonna go with the setup on my current device: oneplus gestures and edge gestures. Those two apps are so amazing when it comes to customizing your gestures. Just hope on android 9 I can still disable the nav keys. Although I have a feeling the phone's gonna be a pain to use without nav key, especially while typing.
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There's something with emui and accessibility settings. From my experience, on olther devices, I had to reapply the accessibility settings a few times until it stuck. It's a battle of wills between the phone and yourself.
As for gestures, I think I'm gonna go with the setup on my current device: oneplus gestures and edge gestures. Those two apps are so amazing when it comes to customizing your gestures. Just hope on android 9 I can still disable the nav keys. Although I have a feeling the phone's gonna be a pain to use without nav key, especially while typing.
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Same it's stabilized a little bit. Not sure what the AI power management is doing but maybe it's noticing trends after some use. Still using the camera from time to time makes both XDA gestures and the other nav app stop working
Agree. Ram management is a bit aggressive, hope it will better soon
Ram has taken a turn for the worst today. It's closing Spotify! While playing music. Can't even switch to the last recent app. I'm a power user and developer so I know how to tweak the settings how is a regular user supposed to use this
LOGMD said:
Ram has taken a turn for the worst today. It's closing Spotify! While playing music. Can't even switch to the last recent app. I'm a power user and developer so I know how to tweak the settings how is a regular user supposed to use this
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What is your solution until an official fix?
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What is your solution until an official fix?
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So far none. It just started happening a few hours ago. When the system goes under stress - taking phonecall then trying to message people across 2 different apps and signal changing from WiFi and authenticating VPN then proof - my gesture app gets killed (been fine all day and exempt from all power optimisation) and Spotify gets killed even if it was the last app like instantly.
I'll see if I can dig deeper this weekend. Literally a little polish on the software would make this the best phone I've ever used. Right now it's the worst.
I have a Huawei m5 8 inch tablet with 4gb ram and it manages memory fine. Never had to tweak battery optimisations in the 9 months I've had it.
I hope they fix it before my 30 day cool off. Or this will be the second Huawei I return. The Nexus 6p was stellar (I know Google did the software end to end)
If I can get some advice access to some logs I can maybe find when and where they are killing the apps - maybe there's a memory leak. With 6gb ram I would have though you leave at least 1gb guaranteed to the last 4-5 recent app.
UPDATE: just a thought it might be the smart resolution causing apps to redraw. I've switched off smart resolution now. And switched on 720p fixed. Will test it over next day or so
UPDATE 2: After setting to fixed 720p signs are positive... Now I can go back 20 apps on the recents screen and they all do not redraw or reload. I think there may be a bug in the smart resolution. It's been 30 minutes and I just reopened an app that was open last in recently 30 mins ago. Try this and see if it works too.
xtrocata said:
There's something with emui and accessibility settings. From my experience, on olther devices, I had to reapply the accessibility settings a few times until it stuck. It's a battle of wills between the phone and yourself.
As for gestures, I think I'm gonna go with the setup on my current device: oneplus gestures and edge gestures. Those two apps are so amazing when it comes to customizing your gestures. Just hope on android 9 I can still disable the nav keys. Although I have a feeling the phone's gonna be a pain to use without nav key, especially while typing.
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Can you please let me know if OnePlus Gestures and Edge Gestures apps work fluidly in the mate 20 pro? I haven't purchased them yet but others gesture app I've purchased had compatibility issues with samsung phones, similar to issues some users were having with mate 20 pro and third party launcher, the gestures did work, but with a 2-3 second delay to go home. If you can confirm OnePlus Gestures and Edge Gestures work as fast as native mate 20 pro gestures I'll buy those apps.
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Can you please let me know if OnePlus Gestures and Edge Gestures apps work fluidly in the mate 20 pro? I haven't purchased them yet but others gesture app I've purchased had compatibility issues with samsung phones, similar to issues some users were having with mate 20 pro and third party launcher, the gestures did work, but with a 2-3 second delay to go home. If you can confirm OnePlus Gestures and Edge Gestures work as fast as native mate 20 pro gestures I'll buy those apps.
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I've used XDA gestures and a new app called Fluid N.G (it's seriously amazing to use) and there is 0 lag. It's almost as snappy as huawei own gestures. Check the gif attached (sorry for bad quality I did it quickly)
vwite said:
Can you please let me know if OnePlus Gestures and Edge Gestures apps work fluidly in the mate 20 pro? I haven't purchased them yet but others gesture app I've purchased had compatibility issues with samsung phones, similar to issues some users were having with mate 20 pro and third party launcher, the gestures did work, but with a 2-3 second delay to go home. If you can confirm OnePlus Gestures and Edge Gestures work as fast as native mate 20 pro gestures I'll buy those apps.
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Sorry. After all the issues and head aches the Mate was giving people, I cancelled my preorder and went and bought the Note 9. Best decision I ever made (when it comes to phone purchases that is). So I won't be able to help you out.
But those two apps worked flawlessly on the LG G7 and now I only installed Edge Gestures on the Note 9 and it works without a hiccup.
Anyway, I think those apps have free versions, no?
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Sorry. After all the issues and head aches the Mate was giving people, I cancelled my preorder and went and bought the Note 9. Best decision I ever made (when it comes to phone purchases that is). So I won't be able to help you out.
But those two apps worked flawlessly on the LG G7 and now I only installed Edge Gestures on the Note 9 and it works without a hiccup.
Anyway, I think those apps have free versions, no?
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I couldn't find free versions but I ended up purchasing them and they work good on my Note 9 but haven't tried them in the Mate 20 Pro. I'm actually switching from Note 9 to Mate 20 Pro but I'd say the best gesture app for Samsung phones is One Hand Operation+, you have to download goodlock first from galaxy store, then it'll let you install one hand operation+, I'd suggest you try it if you have a chance
Not using smart resolution and locking the resolution to 1080 solved 80% of my ram problems... Haha as in you dont see the app rendering when switching between. I guess its a bug with different apps different resolutions therefore re-rendering upon switching... Suggest you guys try it...
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LOGMD said:
So far none. It just started happening a few hours ago. When the system goes under stress - taking phonecall then trying to message people across 2 different apps and signal changing from WiFi and authenticating VPN then proof - my gesture app gets killed (been fine all day and exempt from all power optimisation) and Spotify gets killed even if it was the last app like instantly.
I'll see if I can dig deeper this weekend. Literally a little polish on the software would make this the best phone I've ever used. Right now it's the worst.
I have a Huawei m5 8 inch tablet with 4gb ram and it manages memory fine. Never had to tweak battery optimisations in the 9 months I've had it.
I hope they fix it before my 30 day cool off. Or this will be the second Huawei I return. The Nexus 6p was stellar (I know Google did the software end to end)
If I can get some advice access to some logs I can maybe find when and where they are killing the apps - maybe there's a memory leak. With 6gb ram I would have though you leave at least 1gb guaranteed to the last 4-5 recent app.
UPDATE: just a thought it might be the smart resolution causing apps to redraw. I've switched off smart resolution now. And switched on 720p fixed. Will test it over next day or so
UPDATE 2: After setting to fixed 720p signs are positive... Now I can go back 20 apps on the recents screen and they all do not redraw or reload. I think there may be a bug in the smart resolution. It's been 30 minutes and I just reopened an app that was open last in recently 30 mins ago. Try this and see if it works too.
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Thanks for this suggestion... Works like a charm now without smart resolution..
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LOGMD said:
So far none. It just started happening a few hours ago. When the system goes under stress - taking phonecall then trying to message people across 2 different apps and signal changing from WiFi and authenticating VPN then proof - my gesture app gets killed (been fine all day and exempt from all power optimisation) and Spotify gets killed even if it was the last app like instantly.
I'll see if I can dig deeper this weekend. Literally a little polish on the software would make this the best phone I've ever used. Right now it's the worst.
I have a Huawei m5 8 inch tablet with 4gb ram and it manages memory fine. Never had to tweak battery optimisations in the 9 months I've had it.
I hope they fix it before my 30 day cool off. Or this will be the second Huawei I return. The Nexus 6p was stellar (I know Google did the software end to end)
If I can get some advice access to some logs I can maybe find when and where they are killing the apps - maybe there's a memory leak. With 6gb ram I would have though you leave at least 1gb guaranteed to the last 4-5 recent app.
UPDATE: just a thought it might be the smart resolution causing apps to redraw. I've switched off smart resolution now. And switched on 720p fixed. Will test it over next day or so
UPDATE 2: After setting to fixed 720p signs are positive... Now I can go back 20 apps on the recents screen and they all do not redraw or reload. I think there may be a bug in the smart resolution. It's been 30 minutes and I just reopened an app that was open last in recently 30 mins ago. Try this and see if it works too.
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Thanks for this suggestion... Works like a charm now without smart resolution..
Thanks for this suggestion... Works like a charm now without smart resolution..
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Yeah been half a day and no app crashes minimal reloading of apps. I'm at home today so battery drain is less anyways. I also turned off automatically manage all apps. That seems to contribute to aggressive killing.
What resolution you at? I'm trying 720p it still looks nice and crisp just can't play 1080 videos. Might switch back up to 1080 or QHD and see the battery difference.
LOGMD said:
Ram has taken a turn for the worst today. It's closing Spotify! While playing music. Can't even switch to the last recent app. I'm a power user and developer so I know how to tweak the settings how is a regular user supposed to use this
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No issue here. Used it for 8+ hours straight. I have it all set to manage manually. Spotify can't autolaunch but allowed to remain in background
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Yeah been half a day and no app crashes minimal reloading of apps. I'm at home today so battery drain is less anyways. I also turned off automatically manage all apps. That seems to contribute to aggressive killing.
What resolution you at? I'm trying 720p it still looks nice and crisp just can't play 1080 videos. Might switch back up to 1080 or QHD and see the battery difference.
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I have been using WQHD+ since I got the device and battery life has been outstanding.
Thanks for the suggestion around Manual Management of apps, it has improved multitasking a lot.
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