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I am thinking about picking this tablet up. my question is whether it is getting a dock in the future like the transformer? I see that it has a plug for a dock. I saw the dock with the remote for viewing movies but i wasnt impressed with that. Maybe it will be compatible with a few different docks?? Not a deal breaker for me im just curious. Thanks
Interesting question. I guess my question to you would be... What do you want the dock for? You can add either a bluetooth or USB keyboard to the Acer without a dock. You can get a stand or a case that will hold the Acer. You can just plug the power adapter into it. So... What would a transformer-like dock get you?
the media dock is all I've found so far, but with a usb-host you can add a keyboard to it in the dock. not the best for travelling, but it would work if you were using it at a desk.
The transformers dock is very nice I see why anybody would want one. The idea that you can fold it and protect the screen is probably the best feature aside from the extra battery.
With that said I don't think you will see a dock like that b/c the Acer lacks points on the bottom to secure the tablet once docked. You will probably see a dock similar yo the one for the w500 but I doubt they are to make a folding keyboard dock.
Only disadvantage to the Asus dock is you are stuck carrying around the kb if you just need to use the dock. I like the folding case/dock staples has and just use a USB or Bluetooth when I need too.
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Just saw an interesting post on TechniDroid. Guy claims he spoke to someone at Acer who confirmed there will be a keyboard dock for the A500. Since I'm a newbie on this forum I can't post the link unfortunately.
If you search "Acer to have keyboard dock for a500" it should pop up.
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Just saw an interesting post on TechniDroid. Guy claims he spoke to someone at Acer who confirmed there will be a keyboard dock for the A500. Since I'm a newbie on this forum I can't post the link unfortunately.
If you search "Acer to have keyboard dock for a500" it should pop up.
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They could do a case with keyboard mouse type deal
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Accessories on sale May 8th
I spoke with @AcerAmerica via twitter and they mentioned that the dock (which includes a Keyboard) and some other Acer accessories are going on sale on May 8th in the US.
Thanks for the info. That's great news, accessories never hurt! In regards to the keyboard...were they clear that they were not referring to the W500 Keyboard dock?
I am still looking for information on the docking connector pin out for the Iconia A500. If anyone has ANY info on where I might get that information please let me know or send a PM. I want to bring a Docking Cable / BreakOut box to market.
Let me know!!!
Thanks in advance!
sanaell seems to be someone who might know of, of have access to, that kind of information.
I don't know for sure of course, but a PM wouldn't hurt.
Good luck!
I am not able to give the information at this moment because my external hard drive who contained some precious document get some diving lesson and is learning how to speak with the fishes....
"simple version, my external hard drive fall in the ocean"
I try to get my documentation as soon as possible....
haaa my gosh... I was so happy to find back a save,.....
A501... oh... A...amiga....
Buy the doc take it apart and fallow the leads and some testing might give you the answers. Don't think Acer would do so.
Hmmm....
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Buy the doc take it apart and fallow the leads and some testing might give you the answers. Don't think Acer would do so.
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Documentation if I can get it, beats purchasing something that everyone says doesn't do enough for a docking station and taking it apart, and tracing leads and hoping I don't short something. I'm hoping to give us Iconia users More functionality, and not duplicate the foibles of and overpriced, an underspecified POS.
Should I not be able to Get said docs, I will undoubtedly get one and destroy... for scientific purposes...That docking connector on ourA500 Has to do more than what the current dock can do...
if we can get the pinout id sure love to do some stuff with it. Being an ee major I'm always looking for stuff lie this to do. I hope it comes before my summer ends.
What can the port do
If somebody has found this info, please post!
I'm anxious to see what that port is actually capable of. The dock Acer has now is pretty lame. It can only charge, pass out audio, and maybe HDMI (there seems to be conflicting info on this, trying to get to the bottom of it).
Surprised there's no USB on it.
Just saw the dock for the Toshiba Thrive... would love to see if Acer could ever release a proper dock like that one.
Thought id just drop by and post this. I opened my dock last night. You can clearly see where a HDMI port and controller would go, also a microcontroller for the IR input.
The plug is a 40 pin plug.
https://picasaweb.google.com/101742863087764134140/AcerIconiaA500Dock
I've been working on reverse engineering it, this is the thread I've put my stuff in:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1245048
Power up tablet throught dock port
Anyone knows if it's possible to send a signal to power up (as if you push the power button) to power up the tablet?
I know that they have a powerbutton on the remote but i don't know how to do it to start it.
Thanks!
Good Luck...this beast needs a dock
My first tablet was a wifi Xoom that I got the speaker dock for it. Use that as your starting point. That dock could do it all, it has hdmi out on the back and the speakers are built in the dock. I,am sure you want to be able load data also, plus look good holding your tablet. This one tablet that could use some serious love on decient accessories. If you can bring it too market I,ll check it out... I know I passed on Acer Portfolio case the leather like clips to hold my tablet looked weak as hell. For $39.99 from BestBuy they could kiss my butt on cheap ass crap, I wont be buying it. I a truck driver by trade and I,ve always spent lots of cash on gear for the road that's light, portable & durable. That Xoom I mention earlier, is in the hand of tech savy 8yr old. talk about geek 2.0, which she choose too root before the update. Now she switches themes whenever the mood hits. (Just like a Women) I myself would like to see what could out of the colabiration in the forums. So if there any thing I could do too help let me know...bye for now.
Does anyone with a Tab 4 have HDMI out working and if so which cable/adapter are you using?
I have ordered a cheap ebay cable for a Tab 3 8.0/10.1 that is supposed to have the Samsung 11 pin MLH usb plug. Does the Tab 4 use the same 11 pin jack as the Tab 3? I also saw a post here about screen mirroring for the 7.0 but nobody answered....the specs for both the Tab 3 7 and Tab 4 7 on the Samsung site show NO screen mirroring, only 8.0 and 10.1. That fact alone leads me to believe the Tab 3 cable will work.
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Does anyone with a Tab 4 have HDMI out working and if so which cable/adapter are you using?
I have ordered a cheap ebay cable for a Tab 3 8.0/10.1 that is supposed to have the Samsung 11 pin MLH usb plug. Does the Tab 4 use the same 11 pin jack as the Tab 3? I also saw a post here about screen mirroring for the 7.0 but nobody answered....the specs for both the Tab 3 7 and Tab 4 7 on the Samsung site show NO screen mirroring, only 8.0 and 10.1. That fact alone leads me to believe the Tab 3 cable will work.
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I tried it with a monoprice adapter and it did not work, I did not spend too much time messing with it though,
I think the screen mirroring built in is via DLNA to a Smart TV or other DLNA receiver.
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I tried it with a monoprice adapter and it did not work, I did not spend too much time messing with it though,
I think the screen mirroring built in is via DLNA to a Smart TV or other DLNA receiver.
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The specs say wired HDMI also so I am hoping the Tab 3 cable works. Is your adaper 5 pin or 11 pin, powered or unpowered. From what I have been reading the cable MUST be plugged in to USB power in addition to the tab for it to work. This is the one I have on order.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/151312595134?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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The specs say wired HDMI also so I am hoping the Tab 3 cable works. Is your adaper 5 pin or 11 pin, powered or unpowered. From what I have been reading the cable MUST be plugged in to USB power in addition to the tab for it to work. This is the one I have on order.
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/151312595134?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
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Yeah my adapter is powered but I did not have it plugged into USB. I'll try it again.
So does the Tab 4 (specificly the 8.0) support HDMI out? I notice that the US website and Best Buy mentions HDMI, but the canadian samsung website doesn't mention it.
The MLH cable I got from China does NOT work. I do have hope for the future. There are no HDMI adapters available from Samsung at this time even though they say wired HDMI is supported with an adapter that they have not made available yet! I believe the hardware support is there but it is not implemented in the TouchWiz software.
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The MLH cable I got from China does NOT work. I do have hope for the future. There are no HDMI adapters available from Samsung at this time even though they say wired HDMI is supported with an adapter that they have not made available yet! I believe the hardware support is there but it is not implemented in the TouchWiz software.
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Hi I tried several adapters ordered by Amazon including this one Samsung ET-H10FAUWEGWW but no chance of getting HDMI a signal out.
Therefore I contacted Samsung using the Smart Tutor app of samsung and unfortunately after remote examining the device, they confirmed that MHL is NOT supported by this device. However this might apply only to the European versions.
So what, now I am so disappointed?! Does anybody know if Samsung maybe deactivated this feature in their ROMs, if so maybe we could get
HDMI out with a custom ROM in the future.
kind regards
Mjay
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You have to be careful in choosing an adapter for these. The following one did NOT work for my tab 4 10.1:
Go to amazon dot com/gp/product/B00ESM3Q7K/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But this one specifically says it does, and comments seem to confirm it:
Go to amazon com/gp/product/B00KGP5SEC/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I have one on order, and I will post my results when I get it and try it.
Eric
I wish you luck with the second cable you mentioned, but I read all 24 pages of reviews for it and the Tab 4 is not mentioned as working in any review. Half the reviews say it doesn't even work with the devices listed!
Most CS staff have very little technical knowledge. I would not put one bit of faith in a CS rep saying, oh it's not listed in the adapter specs but it should work...lol.
I would lay odds that wired HDMI out is not implemented in the kernel we have now. There are a few reports here that people lost wired HDMI out on Tab 3 after the Kit Kat update.
Well, I would think that the tab 4 would be supported as the tab 3 was, but that is why I am getting the cheap adapter rather than the official Samsung one (that one is around $75 on Amazon, but $35-$39 elsewhere). Having been in IT, I have found that most of the problems that people have are self induced, i.e. they did not read the instructions, or took shortcuts. It is worth noting that there seems to be two Samsung MHL adapters, one for the phones and one for the tablets. I do not know why they would do that, it does not make sense to me, as it causes too much confusion.
Eric
Samsung has a history of changing cables and adapters for various devices as this page explains better than most.
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/03/28/which-mhl-cable-should-i-buy/
I figure that they want to sell some $100 AllShare Cast dongles before they introduce an new hardware keyed 11 pin micro USB adapter!
I can confirm that my Canadian Tab 4 8.0 has the Samsung 11 pin micro USB jack.
I tried again after reading the reviews of that cable.....reboot both devices...powered from Tab 4 power wart....changed HDMI inputs on TV....screen mirroring on/off......NADA.....
Well, the Tab 4 does not support MHL. At the moment anyway. My 10.1 does have the 11 pin connector, AFAICT, but I get no results when plugging a cable in. BTW macbroom, my last post was not directed at you, just those who buy something and don't read the directions.
Eric
I recently purchased a AUVIO MHL adapter ( male micro USB to female HDMI) for my Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 (sm-t530nu). It uses a external power supply and also included the Samsung 11 pin adapter. I had read on a website that it does support MHL so I didn't think it would be an issue. However, it did NOT work and I tried with and without the adapter. After some browsing I found a miracast/allshare dongle on amazon for 22$ with free shipping and it works like a charm for the screen mirroring. I did notice while browsing that best buy had a "accessory kit" for the tab 4 10.1 that included a wall/car charger, OTG cable, and a MHL adapter. It was a dongle that plugged into your TV HDMI port and had a USB port that you connected the tab 4s charger to. So maybe it does support it and they just made changes to the connectors pins. It may have just been a mislabeled product also, who knows.
HDMI for Tab 4s
I, too have been attempting to get my new Tab 4 10.1 to display via HDMI. And, like others, have had less than helpful information from Samsung's CSRs.
The setup I use with my Samsung S5 phone doesn't seem to work for my tablet, regardless of the order in which I hook everything up
I read elsewhere that the issue was related to the 5-pin vs. 11-pin connection, but adding an adapter for that in the mix didn't work either.
I'm not familiar with the Miracast/Allshare dongle - but that plugs into the TV, right? I had hoped to be able to display movies to a TV while on vacation, so won't know what type of TV (or associated ports) might be available...
I've found this EEEKit which is listed for the Tab 4 (bestbuy dot com/site/eeekit-bundle-3-in-1-for-samsung-galaxy-tab-4-10-1-t530mhl-to-hdmi-cable-otg-cable-sync-cable/1311158404.p?id=mp1311158404&skuId=1311158404&st=eeekit%20hdmi%20%22tab%204%22&cp=1&lp=1#tab=buyingOptions ) but no comments or reviews yet.
So, does this Tab 4 go back to the store?
As a side note: Does anyone else find that a tablet released several months ago is still considered "too new" to have accessories? Especially with a feature (HDMI and screen mirroring) that isn't new? Geesh!
calail said:
I, too have been attempting to get my new Tab 4 10.1 to display via HDMI. And, like others, have had less than helpful information from Samsung's CSRs.
...So, does this Tab 4 go back to the store?
As a side note: Does anyone else find that a tablet released several months ago is still considered "too new" to have accessories? Especially with a feature (HDMI and screen mirroring) that isn't new? Geesh!
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As much as I hate to say it, the new Tab 4 is going back to the store! I spent some time at Best Buy with their in-store Samsung rep, who made calls to *SOMEWHERE* to verify that the Tab 4 IS NOT COMPATIBLE with MHL connections. He tells me, the only way to disply your Tab screen on a TV is through AllShare Cast. Of course, he was willing to sell me their $65 connector! Since I've already purchased MHL adapters to use with my phones, I really don't want to invest in something else for the Tab. Just not that important.
Don't forget that the Allshare Cast dongle checks the flash counter and other things and thus will not work on a rooted Tab 4 or any other device. Sadly nobody has figured out how to patch out the check yet despite it being a problem for quite a while.
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Don't forget that the Allshare Cast dongle checks the flash counter and other things and thus will not work on a rooted Tab 4 or any other device. Sadly nobody has figured out how to patch out the check yet despite it being a problem for quite a while.
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What do you mean? Im rooted and mine works flawless..
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What do you mean? Im rooted and mine works flawless..
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Well it definitely does on the Galaxy S3. I couldn't get it working at all, searched the forums here, and found that information. Oh, and did your rooting change the flash counter or the official/custom status at all?
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Well it definitely does on the Galaxy S3. I couldn't get it working at all, searched the forums here, and found that information. Oh, and did your rooting change the flash counter or the official/custom status at all?
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Ohh okay, you mean that Knox nonsense. No, sorry I didn't understand what you mean't by that. Sorry ive only owned a samsung for a few weeks. Ive only had a Atrix HD so im use to flashing until my hearts content with no repercussion. However, Towelroot doesn't change the counter on the TAB 4 so simply rooting shouldn't be a problem if done correct. That's pathetic however, they really take away someone's ability to cast their screen because they enjoy modding/ flashing their devices? Terrible road to choose for a company with such nice devices.
Well, the good thing is that Chromecast does work on the Tab 4's. The bad news is that screen mirroring is in beta, and only supported on a few devices, officially. If you search for 'Enable Mirroring from any device', you will fine a thread on how to mirror from almost any unit via chromecast. Even though it is beta, it works on my Tab 4.
Eric
Hello!
I've been observing this tablet since I barely missed the Kickstarter campaign. Seeing they didn't make Remix OS like just a one off, but keep updating it to later Android versions, too. Continued support is always good.
I'm now really interested in getting a hold of the tablet. But unfortunately it's not available here in Germany where I live. So I'm considering to import it. I've seen other German people around here having the Remix, so I'd like to ask a few questions I'd like answered before deciding to go through the trouble with customs and stuff.
1.) If I import it from the USA, it'll have a charger for US wall sockets.
a.) It's not by chance modular like the one of other internationally sold devices, such as the Surface tablet, is it? On the Surface tablet you can just swap out a module with the socket pins.
b.) Sockets in the USA usually have 120V. If I maybe try to use the charger with a travel adapter if the pins aren't swappable, is the charger ok with 230V, too?
2.) I'd like use the tablet to play some games on it. The developer however might limit the devices the app is available to download from on Play Store. Can anyone with the tablet do me the favor and check if Play Store says that the app is compatible with it? (I would link them if the forum wouldn't disallow me as a newbie.)
a.) GTA 3 or GTA 3 (German low violence version)
b.) GTA: VC or GTA: VC(German low violence version)
c.) GTA: SA or GTA: SA (German low violence version)
d.) GTA: LCS
I would really appreciate if you guys could answer my questions here .
Cheers, Mini-Me
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Morning,
1.) If I import it from the USA, it'll have a charger for US wall sockets.
a.) It's not by chance modular like the one of other internationally sold devices, such as the Surface tablet, is it? On the Surface tablet you can just swap out a module with the socket pins.
b.) Sockets in the USA usually have 120V. If I maybe try to use the charger with a travel adapter if the pins aren't swappable, is the charger ok with 230V, too?
2.) I'd like use the tablet to play some games on it. The developer however might limit the devices the app is available to download from on
I would really appreciate if you guys could answer my questions here .
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Dont forge the discount link at the bottom of the page. - http://www.xda-developers.com/jide-remix-ultra-tablet-multi-window-done-right/
I ordered from link above to Australia (~240v)
1a,b)
AC is 100-240v adaptor model "sk1-01-ec" with US style plug, not swappable and did not provide adaptor.
can charge over USB if you need to but slow of course.
2)
play store says I can spend money if I want to,.
/mm
Alright, thanks a lot for your answers . So it'd seem the tablet actually fulfills all my wishes .
Also thanks for the hint on the discount, however it would seem it's expired:
Not a big deal though.
I guess I'll look into how I can best go about importing it to here then.
I'm hanging myself into this thread.
For me I discovered the Remix Ultra today and I like it very much.
What concerns me is:
- Will there be a german hardware keyboard layout available? Especially special charaters like ä,ö,ü etc.
- Just to make it clear: In Germany I won't be able to charge the device other than USB?
Best regards
tatze
Hi tatze,
tatze94 said:
I'm hanging myself into this thread.
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Sure, the more the merrier . Collecting different experiences in one place is a good idea.
tatze94 said:
- Will there be a german hardware keyboard layout available? Especially special charaters like ä,ö,ü etc.
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From what I've seen so far - no. On their own site they only sell it to the US (currently?), so they only need that one for now.
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- Just to make it clear: In Germany I won't be able to charge the device other than USB?
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No, you can use the provided charger with a travel adaptor from what I've understood from monki-magic. You'd just plug it between the socket and the charger. The charger then should work fine with the 230V in Germany.
I'm currently hesitant to place an order because trying to get it through customs might be difficult. From what I've seen so far it doesn't have a CE marking and trying to import it they might confiscate it because it doesn't comply with electronics safety regulations necessary for EU.
Oh, and the discount link works again.
Best Regards, Mini-Me
tatze94 said:
I'm hanging myself into this thread.
For me I discovered the Remix Ultra today and I like it very much.
What concerns me is:
- Will there be a german hardware keyboard layout available? Especially special charaters like ä,ö,ü etc.
- Just to make it clear: In Germany I won't be able to charge the device other than USB?
Best regards
tatze
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Your concern about the keyboard layout: you are able to change the layout on the software-side. So you have to know where the umlauts and other buttons are located.
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Hello,
I've been looking for the ZenPad Audio/Keyboard dock DAO1 (https://www.asus.com/us/Tablet-Accessory/ASUS-ZenPad-10-Audio-Dock-DA01-Z300-Series/) with absolutely no luck at all. If anyone knows where to find one, awesome, but I'm really wondering if anyone happens to know if the keyboard dock from the Transformer (TF300) will work with the ZenPad Z300M?
Appreciate any advice on that. :good:
Did you ever find such a dock?
Sad that Asus basically lied on this tablet claiming you could get a keyboard dock. I didn't do proper research before buying (found a good deal) and now don't have a keyboard dock that I actually wanted.
Don't want ebay/china crap.
I finally got somewhat of an intelligent reply from Asus, they said it's not available in North America. So when I asked, "Can I buy it in Europe?" The reply was, "I don't know, I can only check North American products."