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Hi, does anyone know which ROM is currently best for video playback?. I am currently using davi-duck v5 rom with TCMP onboard which also has the ac3 playback plugin but as this is an early version of COREPLAYER the playback is fairly poor for all my dvd rips. COREPLAYER playback is better but doesnt support the AC3 codec, I wonder if someone can port the AC3 plugin for TCMP to COREPLAYER as it doesnt look like they are going to.
I also wonder what playback will be like when we get android working on the HD, coreplayer are due to release a working model for android soon, or will the G1 have the same driver issues as the HD (being the same HTC hardware)
[email protected] i purchased Coreplayer and it is great for re-encoded video, however is i plan to do that i may as well reencode for winmo player as it has hardware acc?
WMP, MP4, hardware acceleration= near perfection!
Your thread is unclear and probably not appropriate for ROM Development section.
mp4
Like most people i do not want to re-encode all my vidoes to mp4 if we can get decent performance another way.
I understand your frustration
Yeah right!
Yeah i bought my Coreplayer on the Mininova website
Very bad
geronimocommie said:
Yeah i bought my Coreplayer on the Mininova website
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If people like you don't like to purchase a relatively cheap piece of software and insist on warez then how on earth will they ever want to or have the resource to develop it properly and include make all the correct optimisations.
This is the wrong forum for comments like that - if a MOD sees it your lucky if you dont get banned.
Go buy a licence it is dirt cheap the people at CoreCodec deserve it!
Hi folks,
Is there any posibility of a lagfree playing of those videos ?
It sucks watching Videos with less than 20fps...
3.1 is supposed to improve playback... just no idea if it will improve 720/1080p playback
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I use Handbrake and imported these setting I found on the net.
https://sites.google.com/site/theiveryinc/a500files
That Google site is mine.
Converts all my 720p.mkv files perfectly, the only issue is the files are big, 2-4 GB, but the quality is outstanding. They even play on 'Movies' which darkens the navigation bar.
i was looking for something like this so many times before, but I never found a stable movie app. On my Samsung Galaxy S II however, it's no problem at all. And that's a freaking phone man! But it's no wonder the hole system is so fast. It makes my newly aquired Iconia looking really sluggish and outdated :-( I don't know if I gonna keep this tablet or gonna look my movies on a 4.3" screen...
I asked Acer customer support whether they're ever going to support additional formats and they replied that they won't ever add support for MKV and can't comment on the rest. So official support for MKV is out the window.
Mkv isn't a video format, it's a container. It's just that most mkv's don't contain only baseline h.264, which is the only supported video format currently. The most benefit would come from adding support for main or high profile h.264
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Mkv isn't a video format, it's a container.
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I know, it still doesn't help at all if the video player application or framework don't support the container format. I personally love MKV, it's handy to slap in two different audio tracks and subtitles in English, Finnish and the hearing-impaired version, plus any metadata about the movie itself. No need to hassle with several files then.
The most benefit would come from adding support for main or high profile h.264
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Indeed. I tried transcoding a 1080p movie to 720p in constant quality mode, both in baseline and high profile modes, and while the quality was the same the high profile one used a lot less storage space. With storage space being rather scarse on mobile devices....
Well, we can only hope. But I don't know if the DSP is beefy enough to decode high profile or if it can be re-programmed to support it. Some DSPs are hardcoded and can't be used for anything other than what they already do when shipped. I don't know anything about Tegra 2 internals so I don't know what to expect.
godashram said:
3.1 is supposed to improve playback... just no idea if it will improve 720/1080p playback
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I use 3.1 atm, but there is no mentionable ddifference to 3.0.1
The nVIDIA Tegra 2 250 is fully able to hardware decode:
H.264
VC-1 AP
MPEG2
MPEG-4
DivX 4/5
XviD HT
H.263
Theora
VP8
WMV
Sorenson Spark
Real Video
VP6
and encode:
H.264
MPEG4
H.263
VP8
And this is for 1080p both enc/dec
Why ACER can't (won't) support them is beyond me! Even my Single Core 7" Samsung Galaxy TAB can play all 1080p videos I have thrown at it!
And here is the full spec of the Tegra 2 250 Link!
Is it maybe because of that, that I play these videos from my USB-HDD?
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Is it maybe because of that, that I play these videos from my USB-HDD?
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You can always copy one of them to the TAB and see if there is any change ( I doubt it)
Using a OLD 60gb usb hdd (literally 8 years old)
And it does not seem to matter - even with the low speed of an old external drive I have no issues playing video from it.
.Mkv -- Regardless of where it is stored is not going to work on the Iconia right now - i don't think there is anything anyone can do or change to fix that right now - the system will not?/can not? use the hardware decoder on mkv files - and software decoding, even for a low bit rate video file is always going to suck.
Hopefully 3.1 will improve our video performance - but I find it a very simple matter to just transcode a video file if the only source I have handy is mkv. Plenty of great and free tools that make the process pretty darn easy. I watch a lot of movies/TV on my a500 - and get a great experience as long as I don't throw .mkv files at it.
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Indeed. I tried transcoding a 1080p movie to 720p in constant quality mode, both in baseline and high profile modes, and while the quality was the same the high profile one used a lot less storage space. With storage space being rather scarse on mobile devices....
Well, we can only hope. But I don't know if the DSP is beefy enough to decode high profile or if it can be re-programmed to support it. Some DSPs are hardcoded and can't be used for anything other than what they already do when shipped. I don't know anything about Tegra 2 internals so I don't know what to expect.
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My understanding is tegra2 will support h.264 high profile up to 720p @ 20mbps, but only baseline profile for 1080p.
With regard to the container format vs video format thing, I'm under the impression that container format support can be added by an app - so even if Acer never support mkv in the default player, if they do add hardware high profile h.264, then other apps should be able to play an mkv that contains high profile h.264 with hardware acceleration.
entropy.of.avarice said:
Hopefully 3.1 will improve our video performance - but I find it a very simple matter to just transcode a video file if the only source I have handy is mkv. Plenty of great and free tools that make the process pretty darn easy. I watch a lot of movies/TV on my a500 - and get a great experience as long as I don't throw .mkv files at it.
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From playing around with PRIMEE, mkv containers are split appropriately and if the video format is supported hardware decoding works. The problem is that there is no support for AC3 therefore majority of compatible MKVs will play very well but have no sound.
Unfortunately once software encoding is enabled we are back to the same stuttery playback issues.
I personally don't believe it's Acers' job to add playback compatibility, I personally believe it should be built into Honeycomb as a baseline. Honeycomb is a tablet OS and as such should be expected to play popular video and audio. codecs. Saying that, if manufacturers did add additional codec support it would be a solid competitive edge.
Use mobo player.
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Use mobo player.
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Have you read any of the thread, running moboplayer doesn't help, as I mentioned above as soon as you enable software decoding HD MKVs start to get choppy.
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From playing around with PRIMEE, mkv containers are split appropriately and if the video format is supported hardware decoding works. The problem is that there is no support for AC3 therefore majority of compatible MKVs will play very well but have no sound.
Unfortunately once software encoding is enabled we are back to the same stuttery playback issues.
I personally don't believe it's Acers' job to add playback compatibility, I personally believe it should be built into Honeycomb as a baseline. Honeycomb is a tablet OS and as such should be expected to play popular video and audio. codecs. Saying that, if manufacturers did add additional codec support it would be a solid competitive edge.
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Ah, that's good to know, so with a baseline h.264 payload an MKV will play fine on stock?
I think it probably IS Acer's job to add codec support, frankly. At the end of the day we're talking about hardware acceleration, and Android provides the software framework for that to work, and it's up to the hardware vendor to make it work with their specific hardware.
Frankly I think Nvidia should be doing it though - it'd do wonders for Tegra 2 sales if they offered up code to support hardware acceleration for their platform on Android.
I guess you didn't really do your research on video playback on Honeycomb tablets, did you?
You can not blame Acer for poor HD playback when, frankly, this is a Google/nVidia issue. Currently no 10" Honeycomb tablet can playback high profile encoded HD vides--smoothly, if at all--without reconverting said movies.
There may or may not be a *real* fix in the future (quad core Tegras are right around the corner, so...), only time will tell.
OrionBG said:
The nVIDIA Tegra 2 250 is fully able to hardware decode:
H.264
VC-1 AP
MPEG2
MPEG-4
DivX 4/5
XviD HT
H.263
Theora
VP8
WMV
Sorenson Spark
Real Video
VP6
and encode:
H.264
MPEG4
H.263
VP8
And this is for 1080p both enc/dec
Why ACER can't (won't) support them is beyond me! Even my Single Core 7" Samsung Galaxy TAB can play all 1080p videos I have thrown at it!
And here is the full spec of the Tegra 2 250 Link!
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I guess you didn't really do your research on video playback on Honeycomb tablets, did you?
You can not blame Acer for poor HD playback when, frankly, this is a Google/nVidia issue. Currently no 10" Honeycomb tablet can playback high profile encoded HD vides--smoothly, if at all--without reconverting said movies.
There may or may not be a *real* fix in the future (quad core Tegras are right around the corner, so...), only time will tell.
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I bought an ACER device so I'll blame them! Problem here is that the Tegra 2 chip is capable to decode and encode the formats at 1080p without problems! The fact that Google still hasn't taken advantage of this feature doesn't mean that ACER couldn't!! To back my words here is an example:
Samsung! The Galaxy S and Galaxy TAB (7") they have much superior video codec support! I'm playing 1080p movies just perfectly on the Galaxy TAB. Samsung have invested in codec support and optimized it for the platform (both Hardware and Software) The Hummingbird CPU is Single Core! So why can't ACER do it? Maybe because they never did something like this before? Maybe because the have done only the hardware till now and they don't have the programmers that can pull this of? Ones the managers at ACER understand that selling thees devices without enhancing the base that Google provides won't cut it, I think we will have a very good device (not that it isn't good now but...)
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I bought an ACER device so I'll blame them!
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Guess you'll have to "blame" every single manufacturer out there who have a Honeycomb tablet out too, then.
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So does the Samsung 10.1 play 1080p videos smoothly?
From what I've been reading.. no. Frankly, watching a 1080p on a 10" tablet is pointless (which is what I'm assuming you're crying about). If 720p isn't "good enough" on a 10" tablet, well, then, time to buy a 17" laptop.
I don't know why we can't find the AC3 drivers for android, specialy for Tegra !!!
I don't know where this drivers can be implemented, maybe in the kernel ???
Why Dice Player 1.5, alone in the domaine..., can play ac3 in hardware decoding ???
Who can make one AC3 hard decoder, free of course
Big deal or not ?
Big deal eh?
The big question is:
Why the hell people are continuing to post theyr questions in development?
Mystery of life.
Will move it later
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I don't know why we can't find the AC3 drivers for android, specialy for Tegra !!!
I don't know where this drivers can be implemented, maybe in the kernel ???
Why Dice Player 1.5, alone in the domaine..., can play ac3 in hardware decoding ???
Who can make one AC3 hard decoder, free of course
Big deal or not ?
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Tegra 3 Does Not Support AC3 Audio
Despite what everyone has assumed, there apparently isn't any AC3 support at all in Tegra 3. In other words, HW accelerated audio in an MKV
isn't even possible. Basically, NVIDIA gave us high profile video with no audio!
NVIDIA Tegra 3 Audio Support Specifications:
Decode
AAC-LC
AAC+
eAAC+
MP3
MP3 VBR
WAV/PCM
AMR-NB
AMR-WB
BSAC
MPEG-2 Audio
Vorbis
WMA 9
WMA Lossless
WMA Pro
G.729a *
G.711 *
QCELP *
EVRC *
* Through third party
Encode
AAC LC
AAC+
eAAC+
PCM/WAV
AMR-NB
AMR-WB
Notice that there is no mention of AC3 support!
Here is the link if you wish to check the specs yourself: http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-3-processor.html
The TF Prime, TF300 and Toshiba excite are all handicapped when playing video containing AC3 audio, such as just about every MKV.
The tf300 cannot play an MKV with audio in the built-in audio player. The video plays silent.
MX Player cannot play an MKV with HW audio. You must select software audio or else the video plays silent.
Only Dice Player can play an MKV with sound.
But, I suspect that dice player simply defaults to its own software audio and is NOT using HW audio acceleration.
The Acer Iconia on the other hand, has licensed Dolby Audio on board, and I suspect, has added codecs supplied by Dolby. It is my guess that THIS is the
reason the Iconia can play MKV's correctly.
It can play an MKV with audio in the built in player.(ASUS tf300, TF Prime, and Toshiba excite cannot)
It can play an MKV with audio in MX Player WITH HARDWARE AUDIO SELECTED! (ASUS tf300, TF Prime, and Toshiba excite cannot)
It can play an MKV with audio in Dice Player. (ASUS tf300, TF Prime can also do this because Dice apparently supplies SW audio by default.
Take away message:
Only the Acer iconia a510 has AC3 support across the board and can universally play MKV AC3 audio.
All other Tegra 3 tablets are at the mercy of the 3rd party video players and their supplied software AC3 support.
Of course in the real world, this may or may not be important to you. It is certainly possible to play MKV video quite well in Dice player on all of these tablets. However, if 3rd party support for your chosen player fails, you must understand that the built in players in these tablets will play silent with most MKV files. Only the iconia a510 does not rely on a 3rd party player for MKV playback.
As a disclaimer, I own both a Transformer and an a510 so I have no personal bias toward either. I am quite fond of both, and both have their pros and cons.
Supersoulfly: Quoted from previous thread,
Perhaps someone knows, was AC3 a problem with Tegra 2 also?
I personally am using the BS Lite player to get my MKVs to work. If Nvidia dropped the ball on this I don't see any other solutions than outside software.
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Yes it was. In fact myself and I believe another member, emote were responsible for long threads showing how to split MKV files into two parts, remove the audio, convert to another format and put them back together. The objective was to avoid having to transcode the video. Tegra 3 is much better, because at least it can handle the high profile video well, and it has the software horsepower to do the AC3 decoding. Just seems that the problem really shouldn't exist at all at this point.
Course the next thing I would be curious to know, is if exynos or snapdragon processors support AC3. If they do, it might bias me toward them in the future.
The Transformer Infinity is rumored to have (or will have) multiple processor choices. I know I would be inclined to chose the processor that supports AC3 as well as high profile video, so that MKV files just play without all the software workarounds.
I'm not too interested in the infinity yet. Really would like to see how well the Tegra 3 (or snapdragon) runs at that high resolution first. That high resolution is new territory for Android and ICS, not sure how app friendly it will be either.
Just a random thought, but I would guess it has to do with licensing fees.
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Just a random thought, but I would guess it has to do with licensing fees.
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This makes sense. And Wikipedia shows that AC3 is just another term for Dolby Digital, which is why it was on the Iconia tab.
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Just a random thought, but I would guess it has to do with licensing fees.
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Of course it has to do with licensing fees.
But can you imagine buying a Blue Ray player or Reciever that can't decode Dolby soundtracks?
Dolby digital is a pretty common format.
And when you call the company to complain that your blue ray player or reciever won't play audio, they tell you to get an external decoder for the audio, our players just handle video?
If you question the importance of their decision, ask yourself:
Why did Acer think that it was so important to get Dolby audio onto the a510? Why did Acer pay the licensing fees that NVIDIA didn't? Because someone at Acer realized that the video player on the iconia can't play any videos. And the first thing the customer is going to do when he gets home is to dump the latest episode of his favorite TV show on his Acer tablet and see how it plays. And on the Acer a510 it actually does! So why was Acer able to think through what the customer wants, and NVIDIA unable?
Remember NVIDIA is not a small outfit. They make computer gaming chips that are designed to play and support just about everthing. To not support a codec that is present in just about every downloaded movie on the planet is strange. But remember this is the same company that designed a chip, the Tegra 2, that couldn't even play high profile video. I had to transcode every movie or TV show that I played on my galaxy tab 10.1 since the day I bought it.
Have you tried to play it on Dice player ?
I think you are misunderstanding. There isn't anything wrong with MKV playback on these tablets. Dice Player works well on both the TF300 and the a510.
The point is that, the absence of audio in some players, like the stock player in the TF300 or the HW audio option of MX Player has always been assumed to be due to a fault in the video player not using the HW audio decoding capability of the NVIDIA tegra 3.
I'm just pointing out that missing hardware audio - or missing audio altogether in some of these players is because there ISN'T any ability at all in the tegra chip to decode these soundtracks. If the programmer hasn't implemented a software decoding solution, you will get no audio.
Dice Player has a software solution, it decodes AC3 and you get sound.
MX Player has a software solution, you select it manually and you get sound.
The stock player depends on Tegra 3, therefore you get no sound in your video.
The a510 has a system-wide fix for the NVIDIA's lack of decoding capability. Acer paid dolby to implement the decoding that should have been native to our tablets, so any video player will work. Even the stock player.
I'm guessing nvidia didn't include dolby digital because it would be quite pricey to license it and they want to get as many companies to use their chips as possible
so they didn't include it but if companies themselves license dolby digital they probably provide hw decoding
Well about the audio AC3 , its does play Ac3 , about 2 days ago i saw a movie with ac3 audio and works fine, you only need to download the BSplayer lite and will play all formats ...
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Well about the audio AC3 , its does play Ac3 , about 2 days ago i saw a movie with ac3 audio and works fine, you only need to download the BSplayer lite and will play all formats ...
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Yes, you can hear AC3 audio from this tablet. The thing is, it's being decoded via software, not the actual SoC. That is the OP's gripe. Hardware decoding requires much less work for the processor, which means better battery life. Plus, it would be much smoother and more consistent than software decoding.
Hi, I want a new phone, and I like a lot the P8lite
The phone must support a microSD 128GB, must be root-able easily (Xposed Framework, Gravity Box...) and should play fluently any bluray rip I try to play: 4-13GB 1080p rips, DUAL audio, support subtitles, AAC, AC3, DTS, etc.
I think the Huawei P8lite meets all the requirements, but I'm not sure about the last one.
Can anyone here test if it plays fluently a 10GB 1080p bluray rip, with DUAL audio in AC3 or DTS, show subtitles embedded, etc?
Apps you can use are VLC, MX player, original video player, etc...
Thank you!
P8 lite
It can play Blu-ray movies without any problems if you use apps like VLC, haven't tested with the stock video player.
Regarding the easy rooting and Xposed framework, you can root it pretty easily but, atleast for now, you can forget about Xposed until someone comes up with a ROM that supports it. I saw someone tried installing xposed on a stock deodexed rom but it didn't work.
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It can play Blu-ray movies without any problems if you use apps like VLC, haven't tested with the stock video player.
Regarding the easy rooting and Xposed framework, you can root it pretty easily but, atleast for now, you can forget about Xposed until someone comes up with a ROM that supports it. I saw someone tried installing xposed on a stock deodexed rom but it didn't work.
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Well, bluray movies (in mkv, 720p) can be played by my Samsung Galaxy Core 2.
The thing is I want a new smartphone that is better than my actual Galaxy Core 2, and it must play specifically bluray rips in 1080p with DUAL audio and subs. I want to make sure it can do it.
Can anyone here try to play a film like "The Lord of the Rings" in 1080p, 10GB of film, and see if the P8lite can handle it?
Use VLC or MX players, they are the most powerful out there. I'd love to see if the original huawei video player can handle it too.
Try if it can playback DTS audio, AAC, AC3, and that the frames are played fluently and smooth. I'd love to know too if it can handle 60fps videos (in 1080p).
So if I have the P8lite stock ROM, I can't install Xposed framework so I can install Gravity Box and customize the phone as I want?
rambomhtri said:
Well, bluray movies (in mkv, 720p) can be played by my Samsung Galaxy Core 2.
The thing is I want a new smartphone that is better than my actual Galaxy Core 2, and it must play specifically bluray rips in 1080p with DUAL audio and subs. I want to make sure it can do it.
Can anyone here try to play a film like "The Lord of the Rings" in 1080p, 10GB of film, and see if the P8lite can handle it?
Use VLC or MX players, they are the most powerful out there. I'd love to see if the original huawei video player can handle it too.
Try if it can playback DTS audio, AAC, AC3, and that the frames are played fluently and smooth. I'd love to know too if it can handle 60fps videos (in 1080p).
So if I have the P8lite stock ROM, I can't install Xposed framework so I can install Gravity Box and customize the phone as I want?
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Yeah, it can play them easily (even UHD it doesn't have issues with).