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Hello, everybody.
First I'd like to thank xda for existing and providing for such a great place for customization of phones, getting information and giving great tools.
Now, I'm a complete and utter newbie when it comes to this, this is my first android device ever and I haven't bothered doing any customization with phones ever since I retired my old Motorolla a925 in 2007 or so.
So I'm trying to be really cautious when installing a new ROM and have some questions:
First one is concerning TWRP. I cannot install it. I downloaded Goomanager like I was told, pushed the 'install OpenRecoveryScript' but it says that "No recoveries were found for your device". I suspect this is because the phone I bought was already rooted. My friends visited Dubai previous week and brought it for me from there.
If this helps, my build is N9005XXUMBMI7. Also, I cannot update my device because "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available."
Do I have to install updates and TWRP manually or change my build?
Second, what kind of ROM would you guys suggest? What are the most popular ones?
There are so many of them and since I'm so new about all of this I have barely any idea how they differ from one another. Someone told me that Cyogenmod is really great for Android devices and suggested Slim Bean but after searching a bit on the net it seems that they are not available for Note 3. Does anyone know if they are developing them for Note 3 yet and when they will be available?
My personal criteria for custom ROMs go like this: improving the performance and batter as much as possible. Removing as much as possible of bloatware, freeing up as much as possible space.
Third,
reading the installation guides I'm not certain if when I'm installing a custom ROM should I keep the ROM files on the computer, connect the phone and then install. Or should I put the files in the internal memory? Or do I put them on the SD card, put the SD card into the phone and install from there?
Thanks for reading this, I apologize if I made an impasse. I tried to search a little bit but couldn't find answers.
DkayBlack said:
Hello, everybody.
First I'd like to thank xda for existing and providing for such a great place for customization of phones, getting information and giving great tools.
Now, I'm a complete and utter newbie when it comes to this, this is my first android device ever and I haven't bothered doing any customization with phones ever since I retired my old Motorolla a925 in 2007 or so.
So I'm trying to be really cautious when installing a new ROM and have some questions:
First one is concerning TWRP. I cannot install it. I downloaded Goomanager like I was told, pushed the 'install OpenRecoveryScript' but it says that "No recoveries were found for your device". I suspect this is because the phone I bought was already rooted. My friends visited Dubai previous week and brought it for me from there.
If this helps, my build is N9005XXUMBMI7. Also, I cannot update my device because "Your device has been modified. Software updates are not available."
Do I have to install updates and TWRP manually or change my build?
Second, what kind of ROM would you guys suggest? What are the most popular ones?
There are so many of them and since I'm so new about all of this I have barely any idea how they differ from one another. Someone told me that Cyogenmod is really great for Android devices and suggested Slim Bean but after searching a bit on the net it seems that they are not available for Note 3. Does anyone know if they are developing them for Note 3 yet and when they will be available?
My personal criteria for custom ROMs go like this: improving the performance and batter as much as possible. Removing as much as possible of bloatware, freeing up as much as possible space.
Third,
reading the installation guides I'm not certain if when I'm installing a custom ROM should I keep the ROM files on the computer, connect the phone and then install. Or should I put the files in the internal memory? Or do I put them on the SD card, put the SD card into the phone and install from there?
Thanks for reading this, I apologize if I made an impasse. I tried to search a little bit but couldn't find answers.
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First your device must be rooted. to check if it is rooted get Root checker from playstore and run it. Go to main page of TWRP, search for your device ie Samsung galaxy Note 3, choose your device code ie International hlte or whatever your device code may be. Click it then go down the list of servers to download the file to your computer. once the file has been downloaded, use Odin to flash it under PDA then reboot.
After you have Custom Recovery installed, you can Flash any ROM written for your device model ie N9005 or N900 etc...To flash ROMs you need to have the ROM zip file in either your internal storage or your external SD Card. I most of the time download them straight into my my SD Card to save myself from transferring the file from my computer to my phone.
Good luck.
doodydood said:
First your device must be rooted. to check if it is rooted get Root checker from playstore and run it. Go to main page of TWRP, search for your device ie Samsung galaxy Note 3, choose your device code ie International hlte or whatever your device code may be. Click it then go down the list of servers to download the file to your computer. once the file has been downloaded, use Odin to flash it under PDA then reboot.
After you have Custom Recovery installed, you can Flash any ROM written for your device model ie N9005 or N900 etc...To flash ROMs you need to have the ROM zip file in either your internal storage or your external SD Card. I most of the time download them straight into my my SD Card to save myself from transferring the file from my computer to my phone.
Good luck.
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Thanks.
My device is definately rooted. I didn't root it myself though. I checked with the rootchecker and even have few apps istalled which need root, like
Adaway.
The TWRP installation through Goomanager seemed to be the most retard-proof so I'm concerned that if I get error messages doing it that way there might be something wrong with my phone so I didn't try other methods (even though I was aware of them)
To clarify, 'External SD card' is the normal card which you can put in and out of the phone (like SIM)? Because when I heard 'external' I tend to think about something that is outside the phone connected by usb.
Ok guys, can someone explain me how to use Odin? Assume that I'm a complete retard.
What version do I use for Note 3 n9005? I searched around but couldn't find any versions that explicitly said that they are compatible with my phone. I am talking about the desktop version of course not the mobile one.
How do I use it? Could I get step by step instructions, please? I downloaded the TWRP file from their site, now what?
There are guides and videos on the net and I watched/read some of them but none for my device. I am (understandably) nervous about my very first attempt at installing a custom ROM. Don't want to turn my expensive phone into a brick. Still, I'm willing to take chances to remove all the bloatware and improve the battery life.
Also could I get answers for my previous questions about ROMs?
Use mobile odin pro. Purchase if needed. Its all you need for flashing. Didnt look at pc eversince. Anyway back to topic. Download .tar file for twrp for ur phone model. Open mobile odin. Download whatever needed by mobile odin. Load the twrp recovery.tar file and flash away.
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hayabusa08 said:
Use mobile odin pro. Purchase if needed. Its all you need for flashing. Didnt look at pc eversince. Anyway back to topic. Download .tar file for twrp for ur phone model. Open mobile odin. Download whatever needed by mobile odin. Load the twrp recovery.tar file and flash away.
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I was hoping on doing this without using any money. Is doing it with the mobile version the safest method? If it is really much safer than other variants, I'll spend some money just for that.
DkayBlack said:
I was hoping on doing this without using any money. Is doing it with the mobile version the safest method? If it is really much safer than other variants, I'll spend some money just for that.
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here you are have a look and all will come clear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcWkKuU9Fyo
Hey all
Ok so here's the problem that I would love some help with.
I have a Samsung Galaxy s4 I9500 and its android version 4.2.2 and I decided to look into rooting my phone a month ago because I'm sick of my phone saying I have no storage space when I keep on deleting everything and have only a few apps left n pics left on my phone even though my 32gb sd card isnt full (ive tried moving my photos there and it wont let me-so i decided to try and root). So last month i followed a few different ways to root it- I have an apple macbook pro and used one way through terminal which told me i failed (so i did the about device push that button 7x thing and then ticked usb debugging) so then i tried the cf-auto root thing which didnt work because (Odin) it comes up in random letters and shapes in a doc which I obviously don't understand and so cannot root that way. I tried to download 4shared but it comes back to my initial problem of having no space on my phone
2 apps i downloaded in an attempt for rooting include superuser and titanium backup- both of which i dont know what they do or how to use them (thinking they are hopeless unless its rooted).
Another random bit of info- this phone was purchased online by my friend on that cheap website kogan.
Please help- I really dont want to lose any of my data/apps etc
Thanks
s.biddle87 said:
Hey all
Ok so here's the problem that I would love some help with.
I have a Samsung Galaxy s4 I9500 and its android version 4.2.2 and I decided to look into rooting my phone a month ago because I'm sick of my phone saying I have no storage space when I keep on deleting everything and have only a few apps left n pics left on my phone even though my 32gb sd card isnt full (ive tried moving my photos there and it wont let me-so i decided to try and root). So last month i followed a few different ways to root it- I have an apple macbook pro and used one way through terminal which told me i failed (so i did the about device push that button 7x thing and then ticked usb debugging) so then i tried the cf-auto root thing which didnt work because (Odin) it comes up in random letters and shapes in a doc which I obviously don't understand and so cannot root that way. I tried to download 4shared but it comes back to my initial problem of having no space on my phone
2 apps i downloaded in an attempt for rooting include superuser and titanium backup- both of which i dont know what they do or how to use them (thinking they are hopeless unless its rooted).
Another random bit of info- this phone was purchased online by my friend on that cheap website kogan.
Please help- I really dont want to lose any of my data/apps etc
Thanks
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Try Jodin 3 for mac see if it works..https://builds.casual-dev.com/jodin3/
Should you really be messing with this if you can't tell the difference between a mac and a windows program? For the storage space problem you're better off backing up what you want to keep then factory reset your phone. Your memory card might be fake too what make is it?
DrFredPhD said:
Should you really be messing with this if you can't tell the difference between a mac and a windows program? For the storage space problem you're better off backing up what you want to keep then factory reset your phone.
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Odin is for windows and jodin is an online flashing interface .jodin works for some people on mac...
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I was more talking to OP who was wondering why odin.exe opened as a text file on his mac.
Heimdall is cross platform isn't it?
DrFredPhD said:
I was more talking to OP who was wondering why odin.exe opened as a text file on his mac.
Heimdall is cross platform isn't it?
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Yup heimdall is cross platform. ..but some people leave some steps of using it I think.so they r not able to use it..for some people it doesn't work.. I have tried Jodin on two macs it works flawless..can't say about heimdall cuz I have not tried it yet..
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Hi!
I bougth a Tab A T550. I already rooted it but can't find how to put apps on SD. I don't know if it's because of root or it was "as it" when bought because I didn't try it before. My last tablet was able to let me change apps to SD from the same apps config but this one hasn't the option. Is this an error or a change on MarsMallow?
I also tried to use App Master, but it closes just on opening, don't know why. Not compatible with MM?
Thanks!
Pepa
PepaBCN said:
Hi!
I bougth a Tab A T550. I already rooted it but can't find how to put apps on SD. I don't know if it's because of root or it was "as it" when bought because I didn't try it before. My last tablet was able to let me change apps to SD from the same apps config but this one hasn't the option. Is this an error or a change on MarsMallow?
I also tried to use App Master, but it closes just on opening, don't know why. Not compatible with MM?
Thanks!
Pepa
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Adoptable storage
ashyx said:
Adoptable storage
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What's this? What does it mean?
ashyx said:
Adoptable storage
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Ok! I found it on Google (as usual ). But other devices had internal and external SD. I understand the internal was a partition but, where? Inside the device mem? Or on the SD? First option seems stupid so must be second. And why change a way that lets you choose where to put apps and data? I was comfortable by choosing by myself where to store each thing...
The internal SD is nothing but a partition of the flash rom the T550 uses. If you want the external SD to be used as a flash card you can use as a sepearte, removable storage, you have to modify a file in your system folder. This of course means your device needs to be rooted. If you know how to root your Tab A6, I will post a way to give your wanted applications read and write access to the external. I have to warn you though, that the development on the T550 has not advanced very much yet because of the brand (Samsung) trying to make their devices exclusive and the new processor architecture. I have found only one way to root the device in a stable way but that makes it impossible to backup and recover my current configuration. TWRP wasn't able to break the encryption of the DATA partition which holds the specific user settings and personal data.
ShonkaiDJ said:
The internal SD is nothing but a partition of the flash rom the T550 uses. If you want the external SD to be used as a flash card you can use as a sepearte, removable storage, you have to modify a file in your system folder. This of course means your device needs to be rooted. If you know how to root your Tab A6, I will post a way to give your wanted applications read and write access to the external. I have to warn you though, that the development on the T550 has not advanced very much yet because of the brand (Samsung) trying to make their devices exclusive and the new processor architecture. I have found only one way to root the device in a stable way but that makes it impossible to backup and recover my current configuration. TWRP wasn't able to break the encryption of the DATA partition which holds the specific user settings and personal data.
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I already rooted my tablet (In fact, I said on my first post). Even when Adaway app says it's not rooted! :silly: But one another adblocker app works correctly so I don't know what to believe. At least, with root explorer I can see folders locked before rooting...
Well. i had it working with the DM13 on my Tab 2. But I tested it on the Tab A and it doesn't seem to work that way anymore...
Still tweaking I am.
What is DM13?
Sorry, I meant CM13 (CyanogenMod)
Verstuurd van mijn SM-T585 met Xposed Modules
PepaBCN said:
Hi!
I bougth a Tab A T550. I already rooted it but can't find how to put apps on SD. I don't know if it's because of root or it was "as it" when bought because I didn't try it before. My last tablet was able to let me change apps to SD from the same apps config but this one hasn't the option. Is this an error or a change on MarsMallow?
I also tried to use App Master, but it closes just on opening, don't know why. Not compatible with MM?
Thanks!
Pepa
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For this problem's solution, use Root Essentials from the Google Play Store and give it root access. Then look through the app until you see adoptable storage. After you go to that button, press adopt to internal if you want more storage for the phone (computers cannot access the sd card anymore!). If you want to change back to making the SD Card being read for computers, go to that adoptable storage page and press migrate. Your GBs or MBs should be back to normal on the SD Card.
Hope I helped.
ParadoXGodzillA said:
For this problem's solution, use Root Essentials from the Google Play Store and give it root access. Then look through the app until you see adoptable storage. After you go to that button, press adopt to internal if you want more storage for the phone (computers cannot access the sd card anymore!). If you want to change back to making the SD Card being read for computers, go to that adoptable storage page and press migrate. Your GBs or MBs should be back to normal on the SD Card.
Hope I helped.
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I take note of your advice, but I'm not sure of liking this "adopting" mode.
I also am not sure if this tab is doing well. The screen needs to be more or less al 25% of bright to be able to look at it without "eyeache". Too bright in white! And more in the center of the screen than in corners which show a little gray (just a little, but it makes me feel as I was looking at a curve screen).
I'm very disappointed because my old tab is just it: old. And battery drains easy. But I prefer it to anyone sold today! :crying: I love it and I'm right doing it, because it's a Galaxy Tab S, the best tab ever made, at least, to me. So, what can I do?
Sorry for explaining my personal drama, but I'm getting really mad with all this...
PepaBCN said:
I take note of your advice, but I'm not sure of liking this "adopting" mode.
I also am not sure if this tab is doing well. The screen needs to be more or less al 25% of bright to be able to look at it without "eyeache". Too bright in white! And more in the center of the screen than in corners which show a little gray (just a little, but it makes me feel as I was looking at a curve screen).
I'm very disappointed because my old tab is just it: old. And battery drains easy. But I prefer it to anyone sold today! :crying: I love it and I'm right doing it, because it's a Galaxy Tab S, the best tab ever made, at least, to me. So, what can I do?
Sorry for explaining my personal drama, but I'm getting really mad with all this...
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If your device is rooted, and you want it to have the latest updates, download Samsung Smart Switch on your Windows PC. Reply back if you want to hear the full advice to change back to stock rom when you sell it to anyone.
(Nobody wants to buy a rooted tablet from the previous owner)
ParadoXGodzillA said:
If your device is rooted, and you want it to have the latest updates, download Samsung Smart Switch on your Windows PC. Reply back if you want to hear the full advice to change back to stock rom when you sell it to anyone.
(Nobody wants to buy a rooted tablet from the previous owner)
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Don't know which latest updates you're referring to. And either don't understand which tablet you're talking about to sell.
I'm not yet sure if I'll return the tab A to seller (here we have 14d days of return policy) or not. Because buying an S2 is more expensive and I'm not sure this difference to be useful to me (taking apart the screen). Anyway, to be able to return the tab A, I already flashed the stock ROM. I didn't change the ROM when I rooted it, but rooting seems to break the possibility to make a factory reset, either from bootloader or from Android. So, I thank your try to help me but, as you can see, I already did it.
There are lots of things I don't know, but I've rooted all my Android devices, from first till now. And I even had an iPad 2 and jailbraked it. I'm a little bit freaky! LOL
PepaBCN said:
Don't know which latest updates you're referring to. And either don't understand which tablet you're talking about to sell.
I'm not yet sure if I'll return the tab A to seller (here we have 14d days of return policy) or not. Because buying an S2 is more expensive and I'm not sure this difference to be useful to me (taking apart the screen). Anyway, to be able to return the tab A, I already flashed the stock ROM. I didn't change the ROM when I rooted it, but rooting seems to break the possibility to make a factory reset, either from bootloader or from Android. So, I thank your try to help me but, as you can see, I already did it.
There are lots of things I don't know, but I've rooted all my Android devices, from first till now. And I even had an iPad 2 and jailbraked it. I'm a little bit freaky! LOL
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Ok. Thanks for the clarification on that but, flashing a stock rom won't do anything. The device will still say Custom, not Official in the Status of the device. So, what I mean by the Samsung Smart Switch, is to download it on a Windows PC and open it up then go to Device Reinitialization in the More tab and then press the second tab in that, then put your device model number then the serial number. Give it Administrator access and then the latest updates should install and also the custom binary and custom device should turn back to official. (FLASHING STOCK FILES ON ODIN WON'T SOLVE ANYTHING! IT STILL VOIDS YOUR WARRANTY!! SO YOU GOT TO TURN IT BACK TO NORMAL BY USING SAMSUNG SMART SWITCH.)
ParadoXGodzillA said:
Ok. Thanks for the clarification on that but, flashing a stock rom won't do anything. The device will still say Custom, not Official in the Status of the device. So, what I mean by the Samsung Smart Switch, is to download it on a Windows PC and open it up then go to Device Reinitialization in the More tab and then press the second tab in that, then put your device model number then the serial number. Give it Administrator access and then the latest updates should install and also the custom binary and custom device should turn back to official. (FLASHING STOCK FILES ON ODIN WON'T SOLVE ANYTHING! IT STILL VOIDS YOUR WARRANTY!! SO YOU GOT TO TURN IT BACK TO NORMAL BY USING SAMSUNG SMART SWITCH.)
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Totally incorrect on several points.
Stock ODIN flashable firmware is official and does NOT void your warranty.
It WILL return your device back to official status and remove custom status.
The files downloaded via Smartswitch are identical.
ashyx said:
Totally incorrect on several points.
Stock ODIN flashable firmware is official and does NOT void your warranty.
It WILL return your device back to official status and remove custom status.
The files downloaded via Smartswitch are identical.
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True that, but I mean, if you want the latest updates and the newest kernel, etc. Then you might want to download the SmartSwitch waty. Let's say, you have a Lollipop rom and then you want a Marshmallow one for that device. Then it would be better to get it the Samsung SmartSwitch way because the Odin flashable version is not out yet.
ParadoXGodzillA said:
True that, but I mean, if you want the latest updates and the newest kernel, etc. Then you might want to download the SmartSwitch waty. Let's say, you have a Lollipop rom and then you want a Marshmallow one for that device. Then it would be better to get it the Samsung SmartSwitch way because the Odin flashable version is not out yet.
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They pretty much come out at the same time.
Sites like Sammobile download direct from Samsungs update server, same as Smartswitch connects to.
Release dates are usually posted with the firmware.
ashyx said:
They pretty much come out at the same time.
Sites like Sammobile download direct from Samsungs update server, same as Smartswitch connects to.
Release dates are usually posted with the firmware.
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Ok, I can understand that but it takes forever for the person who wants to download that .tar file in order to get that Odin file. Plus, SmartSwitch can install the updates and files within 30 minutes without 8 hours of waiting. (I don't use money for websites such as FileGator, etc.)
ashyx said:
They pretty much come out at the same time.
Sites like Sammobile download direct from Samsungs update server, same as Smartswitch connects to.
Release dates are usually posted with the firmware.
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The problem with Sammobile is that just this days is having problems with free downloads... But it's easy to find the same stock ROM anywhere in the net if you take the CSC code to Google. Isn't it so? I found it in this way...
ParadoXGodzillA said:
True that, but I mean, if you want the latest updates and the newest kernel, etc. Then you might want to download the SmartSwitch waty. Let's say, you have a Lollipop rom and then you want a Marshmallow one for that device. Then it would be better to get it the Samsung SmartSwitch way because the Odin flashable version is not out yet.
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That's what I thounght and what I understood. I don't write usually here but I read a lot! :highfive:
Hi All
Looking for a best tutorial to follow and the right one for my phone really don't want to brick it, obviously :/. as there seems to be a few versions for the S7
I have the following: S7 android 8.0.0 SM-G930F not sure what else I need to know! I'm in the UK so I assume UK phones come with Exynos cpu's
and as far as I am aware android 8 is Oreo! but when they say Stock Rom I assume they mean the same as what came with the phone the original rom?
if so is there an alternative stable rom without the crap included or is it just as simple to delete every thing you don't want now it's rooted! and does that mean if I reset the phone its back to normal with all the crap included! or is there a way to keep it rooted even after reset! and should anything be disabled I.e prepare the phone before attempting to root like any kind of auto encryption that needs disabling and just one more question
if at anytime the rooting process hangs for a ridiculous amount of time when should I throw in the towel! and what are the chances of retrieving the phone back to original state! or does a dirty shutdown brick it?.
I started the root process but failed at first hurdle!, followed instructions install Odin3_v3.13.1 but when I connected the phone nothing showed up in Odin? though I will have another go just to confirm I followed it correctly, I'll update this when it's done.
this was the tutorial I followed:
Easy 4 Newbie [Root Guide]SM-G930F, G935F, G930FD, G935FD (Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge)
Warning ! Please note that the official TWRP for Nougat on Galaxy S7/ S7 Edge is not available yet but based on my experience the Marshmallow version is working on Nougat. By installing a custom recovery on your S7 and S7 Edge and rooting it...
forum.xda-developers.com
I know alot of questions I would really appreciate any help and clarification on the above.
many thanks
Regards
Daz
Look pal, rooting the phone is just like being an adult, it means you will get rid of Samsung's "Child Care".
Yes, UK models use Exynos chip, but you have to be sure, look at your baseband version, if it is G930FXXX, then you are good.
ROMs are in two shapes:
Stock-based: These are just like the one you are using, or other Samsung phones does, like Samsung Experience, One UI, TouchWiz. Maybe MIUI and FlymeOS will come into account, as there are ROMs based on them + Samsung's.
AOSP: These are pure Android ROMs, with few modifications to the core, but keeping the UI as close to the source as possible, Google & OnePlus phones come with a near-to-pure operating systems.
Changing a ROM is not risky, as long as you follow the instructions, without any unaccounted improvising.
Before you install a ROM, read the working and bug list, to make sure you are installing something you have an idea of.
You need to install TWRP recovery (or any other one you like), and format data, in order to be able to travel among ROMs and/or root your device.
Formatting is only required because the phone is forcibly encrypted, and TWRP can not decrypt it, at least not for this device.
Rooting is simply about flashing a 5-MB file, Magisk, then rebooting to system, no need to wipe data.
No need to do any additional steps, unless you are trying to hide root from some apps and/or pass SafetyNet.
Mohamedkam000 said:
Look pal, rooting the phone is just like being an adult, it means you will get rid of Samsung's "Child Care".
Yes, UK models use Exynos chip, but you have to be sure, look at your baseband version, if it is G930FXXX, then you are good.
ROMs are in two shapes:
Stock-based: These are just like the one you are using, or other Samsung phones does, like Samsung Experience, One UI, TouchWiz. Maybe MIUI and FlymeOS will come into account, as there are ROMs based on them + Samsung's.
AOSP: These are pure Android ROMs, with few modifications to the core, but keeping the UI as close to the source as possible, Google & OnePlus phones come with a near-to-pure operating systems.
Changing a ROM is not risky, as long as you follow the instructions, without any unaccounted improvising.
Before you install a ROM, read the working and bug list, to make sure you are installing something you have an idea of.
You need to install TWRP recovery (or any other one you like), and format data, in order to be able to travel among ROMs and/or root your device.
Formatting is only required because the phone is forcibly encrypted, and TWRP can not decrypt it, at least not for this device.
Rooting is simply about flashing a 5-MB file, Magisk, then rebooting to system, no need to wipe data.
No need to do any additional steps, unless you are trying to hide root from some apps and/or pass SafetyNet.
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Hi Mohamedkam000
Thanks for replying. I'm not confused about why I want to root the phone. I'm just trying to understand the inner workings and the risks as I'm not as clued up with phone OS's as I am windows. I don't care about warrantees or hiding the the fact it's rooted I just want a clean rooted phone free of big brother well inside at least I know you will never completely keep them out but making it hard is a start lol.
Thank you very much for all the above especially on clarifying about the roms and the reason TWRP formats due to encryption nice one
My Baseband version slightly different though it's G930FXXU8ETI3 not sure if having a U instead of a third X makes any difference!
and I posted wrong tutorial I'm actually following this one below again not sure if that matters.
Guide How to root Android 8.0 Oreo Stock ROM on Galaxy S7 ( 100% Working )
Hi . i see too many peoples have problem on rooting Android 8.0 Oreo Stock Rom on Galaxy S7 ( edge ) and they cant get passed from the verification field error ! ok its bcuz they do only 1 step wrong , here i just wanna tell you all the steps 1...
forum.xda-developers.com
Again many thanks for clarifying that lot up very informative and much appreciated.
Kind regards
Daz
CitizenSmith said:
Hi Mohamedkam000
Thanks for replying. I'm not confused about why I want to root the phone. I'm just trying to understand the inner workings and the risks as I'm not as clued up with phone OS's as I am windows. I don't care about warrantees or hiding the the fact it's rooted I just want a clean rooted phone free of big brother well inside at least I know you will never completely keep them out but making it hard is a start lol.
Thank you very much for all the above especially on clarifying about the roms and the reason TWRP formats due to encryption nice one
My Baseband version slightly different though it's G930FXXU8ETI3 not sure if having a U instead of a third X makes any difference!
and I posted wrong tutorial I'm actually following this one below again not sure if that matters.
Guide How to root Android 8.0 Oreo Stock ROM on Galaxy S7 ( 100% Working )
Hi . i see too many peoples have problem on rooting Android 8.0 Oreo Stock Rom on Galaxy S7 ( edge ) and they cant get passed from the verification field error ! ok its bcuz they do only 1 step wrong , here i just wanna tell you all the steps 1...
forum.xda-developers.com
Again many thanks for clarifying that lot up very informative and much appreciated.
Kind regards
Daz
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It doesn't matter which version of Android you are using, root is the same.
However, on stock ROMs, it might sometimes get rough, as you may end up with Wi-Fi not working (happened to me Q1 2020).
If you really want to learn how Android OS works, then rooting the stock ROM is not your way.
Try AOSP ROMs, preferably start with Oreo ones, you can root in 3 common way, LineageOS SU Add-on, Magisk, Super SU.
But before you tickle your phone, you have to make a backup of your current device, of every partition, EFS is the most important partition, so make sure it is safe.
Baseband version doesn't matter a lot, unless you're paranoid with updates, it is sorted alphabetically, each string on its own.
The phone is more similar to a linux machine than to a Windows PC.
Edit: To root stock ROM, you have to flash dm verity, so you don't end up encrypted again.
Mohamedkam000 said:
It doesn't matter which version of Android you are using, root is the same.
However, on stock ROMs, it might sometimes get rough, as you may end up with Wi-Fi not working (happened to me Q1 2020).
If you really want to learn how Android OS works, then rooting the stock ROM is not your way.
Try AOSP ROMs, preferably start with Oreo ones, you can root in 3 common way, LineageOS SU Add-on, Magisk, Super SU.
But before you tickle your phone, you have to make a backup of your current device, of every partition, EFS is the most important partition, so make sure it is safe.
Baseband version doesn't matter a lot, unless you're paranoid with updates, it is sorted alphabetically, each string on its own.
The phone is more similar to a linux machine than to a Windows PC.
Edit: To root stock ROM, you have to flash dm verity, so you don't end up encrypted again.
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Thanks again for clearing quite a few things up I thought rooting stock rom would have been far safer way forward wow how wrong was I! but I guess I am just trying to find any kind simile to windows in any way but as you pointed out again it's more like Linux which again I've only played around with ubuntu and mint for a short period so again not to up on Linux lol.
It's funny I was just reading up on AOSP ROMs then got your message. I see they have a stable but not complete! Android 10 not that I would consider it need as I need a stable OS so Oreo is fine for me.
I have backed up phone using Smart Switch on the PC I assume that copy's every thing that's needed, I reset the phone in anticipation all be it prematurely but at least it restored all my data so if anything that was a good test of the back up at least .
I will have look at some AOSP ROMs and see what's involved there, I'll check out their tutorial hopefully it will include the whole process including root.
I gather by your comment using a AOSP ROM you don't need to use dm-verity or will that still be needed!.
The first thing to do is to flash (install) TWRP, it's a custom recovery (think of it as a mini OS that can boot before Android), that will be the base for any of your future tinkering.
Here is the thread, read the FP carefully: [Recovery][Exynos] Official TWRP for Galaxy S7 (herolte)
Once TWRP installed, you can do many things:
Install addons like Magisk. Magisk is the tool you use to obtain root. Forget SuperSU, its outdated, and don't works in modern versions of Android.
Install a custom ROM (this subforum is the perfect place to find them).
Backup & restore an image of your current ROM (very useful).
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The first thing to do is to flash (install) TWRP, it's a custom recovery (think of it as a mini OS that can boot before Android), that will be the base for any of your future tinkering.
Here is the thread, read the FP carefully: [Recovery][Exynos] Official TWRP for Galaxy S7 (herolte)
Once TWRP installed, you can do many things:
Install addons like Magisk. Magisk is the tool you use to obtain root. Forget SuperSU, its outdated, and don't works in modern versions of Android.
Install a custom ROM (this subforum is the perfect place to find them).
Backup & restore an image of your current ROM (very useful).
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Thanks Mooms for the input
I tried to follow your links tutorial which he gives three options only one is any good to me and that was installing twrp using Odin but I'm having issues at every turn!. I can't even get Odin to recognise my phone it just wont pick it up I have Samsung driver installed and I have reinstalled many times I found an article claim to have a workaround but that was BS just selling some other app I even change the driver as described on there page,
7 Tips to Fix Odin Not Detecting Phone
Are you using Odin flash tool to flash your Samsung phone but it is not recognized by Odin? Here are 7 tips to fix Odin not detecting phone.
www.imyfone.com
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but that did nothing so reinstall normal driver again.
feels like it's just not meant to be :/
Thanks again.
CitizenSmith said:
Thanks again for clearing quite a few things up I thought rooting stock rom would have been far safer way forward wow how wrong was I! but I guess I am just trying to find any kind simile to windows in any way but as you pointed out again it's more like Linux which again I've only played around with ubuntu and mint for a short period so again not to up on Linux lol.
It's funny I was just reading up on AOSP ROMs then got your message. I see they have a stable but not complete! Android 10 not that I would consider it need as I need a stable OS so Oreo is fine for me.
I have backed up phone using Smart Switch on the PC I assume that copy's every thing that's needed, I reset the phone in anticipation all be it prematurely but at least it restored all my data so if anything that was a good test of the back up at least .
I will have look at some AOSP ROMs and see what's involved there, I'll check out their tutorial hopefully it will include the whole process including root.
I gather by your comment using a AOSP ROM you don't need to use dm-verity or will that still be needed!.
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AOSP ROMs are pure, you can't say they are not complete. They are complete, and what OEMs do, like Samsung and Xiaomi is just a customization that you can do, too.
It is preferred that when you take a backup, take it with TWRP, just to ensure you backed up phone's partitions, along with "EFS".
The root procedure on Android 6+ is done by patching the Kernel (boot.img), so unless you take backup of that, you cannot keep root.
There are stable custom ROMs, custom ROMs are meant for custom adjustments, however the stability depends on your phone, and the way you use it, you can compare AOSP vs. Stock and see the difference.
AOSP ROMs doesn't need dm verity, well, at least not if the developer did not mention the encryption part.
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AOSP ROMs are pure, you can't say they are not complete. They are complete, and what OEMs do, like Samsung and Xiaomi is just a customization that you can do, too.
It is preferred that when you take a backup, take it with TWRP, just to ensure you backed up phone's partitions, along with "EFS".
The root procedure on Android 6+ is done by patching the Kernel (boot.img), so unless you take backup of that, you cannot keep root.
There are stable custom ROMs, custom ROMs are meant for custom adjustments, however the stability depends on your phone, and the way you use it, you can compare AOSP vs. Stock and see the difference.
AOSP ROMs doesn't need dm verity, well, at least not if the developer did not mention the encryption part.
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Some of the roms I have looked at mention external touch buttons at bottom of phone do not work or something else in the phone I'm just reading their comments.
I understand about the stock & custom rom's now that's not my problem at least not at the moment as I am miles away from choosing a rom! as I can't even get out the starting gate!. I can not get TWRP on my phone as the only way I can see to get it on a unrooted! phone is to use Odin but as I said Odin doesn't work at least not for me it does not see my phone. I would love to take a back up using twrp but that won't happen until I find a way to get TWRP on a unrooted phone. what crazy paradox is this!. you can't root phone without twrp installed and twrp won't install on a unrooted phone!. that makes perfect sense.
CitizenSmith said:
Some of the roms I have looked at mention external touch buttons at bottom of phone do not work or something else in the phone I'm just reading their comments.
I understand about the stock & custom rom's now that's not my problem at least not at the moment as I am miles away from choosing a rom! as I can't even get out the starting gate!. I can not get TWRP on my phone as the only way I can see to get it on a unrooted! phone is to use Odin but as I said Odin doesn't work at least not for me it does not see my phone. I would love to take a back up using twrp but that won't happen until I find a way to get TWRP on a unrooted phone. what crazy paradox is this!. you can't root phone without twrp installed and twrp won't install on a unrooted phone!. that makes perfect sense.
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Does your phone allow MTP communication? I mean can you transfer files when the phone is turned on?
Does the phone show any notification about a usb connection?
If not, then you have probably a bad USB cable, at least, or you have a hardware issue that can go as deep as a burned charging port.
If yes, then either your USB cable is not as fast as the phone requires, or you haven't installed the Samsung USB Drivers on your PC.
Unfortunately, you cannot root your device without PC, at least not since Lollipop.
CitizenSmith said:
Thanks Mooms for the input
I tried to follow your links tutorial which he gives three options only one is any good to me and that was installing twrp using Odin but I'm having issues at every turn!. I can't even get Odin to recognise my phone it just wont pick it up I have Samsung driver installed and I have reinstalled many times I found an article claim to have a workaround but that was BS just selling some other app I even change the driver as described on there page,
7 Tips to Fix Odin Not Detecting Phone
Are you using Odin flash tool to flash your Samsung phone but it is not recognized by Odin? Here are 7 tips to fix Odin not detecting phone.
www.imyfone.com
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but that did nothing so reinstall normal driver again.
feels like it's just not meant to be :/
Thanks again.
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Which version of Odin are you using ?
Use this version (latest): Odin v3.14.4
Which version of the Samsung USB drivers are you using ?
Use this version (latest): https://developer.samsung.com/mobile/android-usb-driver.html
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Does your phone allow MTP communication? I mean can you transfer files when the phone is turned on?
Does the phone show any notification about a usb connection?
If not, then you have probably a bad USB cable, at least, or you have a hardware issue that can go as deep as a burned charging port.
If yes, then either your USB cable is not as fast as the phone requires, or you haven't installed the Samsung USB Drivers on your PC.
Unfortunately, you cannot root your device without PC, at least not since Lollipop.
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Hi
Yes I can transfer files.
Yes phone asks to allow or block file transfer and it ohone shows up in Devices and Drives list and I can access the phone directory and shows up as Samsung s7 icon.
I will try another USB lead but the one I'm using is new and wasn't cheap but still a possibility I have had leads that weren't suitable for other things I was trying so it is worth a try.
Thanks
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Which version of Odin are you using ?
Use this version (latest): Odin v3.14.4
Which version of the Samsung USB drivers are you using ?
Use this version (latest): https://developer.samsung.com/mobile/android-usb-driver.html
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When I downloaded Odin this was latest one Odin3_v3.13.1 though I have doubts that one version update will fix this issue as I did not see many if any people having my issue so they all used Odin and I believe theirs are fine even with older versions! but as I said Mohamedkam it's worth a try I will down load that version and give it a try.
As for the Samsung usb driver I believe that is where I got mine
SAMSUNG_USB_Driver_for_Mobile_Phones no version visible under properties on file version 1.7.23.0.
The USB connection seems to be fine I have uninstalled then re-download and reinstalled a couple of times.
I can transfer files no problem it shows up as Galaxy S7 Icon with card and phone drive inside.
I'll update shortly thank you.
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I just went to try new Odin and whilst checking my phone have seen I have Offical TWRP app installed? I have no clue as to how that's got in there! as Odin did not show phone so I could select nothing!.
In the phone I open app and if i select backup existing recovery it opens and Select Folder tab and under that Selected Folder: /sdcard Filename: Recovery .img and at the bottom of screen Root access required.
I just hope it's installed correctly!. it is showing in playstore my apps as well just to confirm. if this is now installed what should I do next Now not sure what tutorial to start following.
I am just going to try the new odin and see if it picks up the phone back soon.
OK Seem that it now shows up in the new Odin. at least I think it has! in the log window I see this: <ID:0/004> Added!!
I didn't see that before.
Would be grateful if you could tell me how to proceed from here!
Correct, you don't need he latst version of Odin or the Samsung drivers, bit it was just to be sure.
You need to be in download mode, but before, you must have checked OEM unlock & USB debug in developer options (mandatory).
I've written a tutorial with images here (in French):
Samsung Galaxy S7 (edge) - Mangez un Oreo! [Topic Unique] - Page : 487 - Téléphone Android - Technologies Mobiles - FORUM HardWare.fr
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Correct, you don't need he latst version of Odin or the Samsung drivers, bit it was just to be sure.
You need to be in download mode, but before, you must have checked OEM unlock & USB debug in developer options (mandatory).
I've written a tutorial with images here (in French):
Samsung Galaxy S7 (edge) - Mangez un Oreo! [Topic Unique] - Page : 487 - Téléphone Android - Technologies Mobiles - FORUM HardWare.fr
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As I said the older version did not show any kind of data what's so ever and the phone was in download mode. phone displayed "Downloading" which I believe it says that even if it's not doing anything! so a tutorial explained. I think it must have installed the Official TWRP app even though phone did not show up in Odin everything was blank however when I installed the new version of Odin like you suggested it then showed up as <ID:0/004> Added!!. so your suggestion work thanks for that and I did enable OEM unlock & USB debug I did long time ago.
I would check out your tutorial but unfortunately I don't speak French and translating instructions is too risky but thank you for the offer but I'll carry on look around still undecided on what custom rom to go for as I said some comments point out small issues and the developers also state certain things are not working so that is making it hard to consider one if you know what I mean.
Again Thank you for your input very much appreciated.
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As I said the older version did not show any kind of data what's so ever and the phone was in download mode. phone displayed "Downloading" which I believe it says that even if it's not doing anything! so a tutorial explained. I think it must have installed the Official TWRP app even though phone did not show up in Odin everything was blank however when I installed the new version of Odin like you suggested it then showed up as <ID:0/004> Added!!. so your suggestion work thanks for that and I did enable OEM unlock & USB debug I did long time ago.
I would check out your tutorial but unfortunately I don't speak French and translating instructions is too risky but thank you for the offer but I'll carry on look around still undecided on what custom rom to go for as I said some comments point out small issues and the developers also state certain things are not working so that is making it hard to consider one if you know what I mean.
Again Thank you for your input very much appreciated.
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Take a note that, when you flash TWRP, you have to boot immediately to the recovery, so as to enforce its existence, cause I remember they phone has an original recovery backed up somewhere, and gets triggered when you reboot directly to system instead of the unofficial binary.
I advise you to watch guides on YouTube, it's more .. understandable.
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still undecided on what custom rom to go for as I said some comments point out small issues and the developers also state certain things are not working so that is making it hard to consider one if you know what I mean.
Again Thank you for your input very much appreciated.
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I recommend to go with ALEXNDR ROM: zero bugs, everything works perfectly (it's based on stock ROM).
[ROM][G930F/FD][ALEXNDR] * U8EUE1 * DevBase v7.4 * Encryption support [Jul-10]
Important notes for Developers / Chefs !!! This ROM is NOT based on any other custom ROM. My work contains many original ideas and innovations that I introduced as the first in the ROM development (see "Changelist" in post #2). Of course, it...
forum.xda-developers.com
Mohamedkam000 said:
Take a note that, when you flash TWRP, you have to boot immediately to the recovery, so as to enforce its existence, cause I remember they phone has an original recovery backed up somewhere, and gets triggered when you reboot directly to system instead of the unofficial binary.
I advise you to watch guides on YouTube, it's more .. understandable.
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Yer I read that but I've ended up with TWRP installed and did not do that process because I was unaware it installed until it showed up.
As I said I'll just keep looking for now I know I'll find one that works for me from start to finish.
and I've been checking youtube but wouldn't want to use any links their providing but it may help familurise myself with the whole process if i watch enough of them.
Thanks again for your help.
mooms said:
I recommend to go with ALEXNDR ROM: zero bugs, everything works perfectly (it's based on stock ROM).
[ROM][G930F/FD][ALEXNDR] * U8EUE1 * DevBase v7.4 * Encryption support [Jul-10]
Important notes for Developers / Chefs !!! This ROM is NOT based on any other custom ROM. My work contains many original ideas and innovations that I introduced as the first in the ROM development (see "Changelist" in post #2). Of course, it...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Hi Mooms
I will check that out many thanks. I wonder if you could help me here. I am in the middle of the rooting process but have hit a snag. again!
I have now installed TWRP successfully then no-verity-opt-encrypt-3.1 all went fine and I'm at point of flashing Magisk but have an issue when I swipe to flash is gives me a error in red saying "invalid zip file format !"
I downloaded it from github here.
GitHub - topjohnwu/Magisk: The Magic Mask for Android
The Magic Mask for Android. Contribute to topjohnwu/Magisk development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
I click on "code" tab and then "download zip" and I placed that in a download folder on my sd card when I select it I get the above error any ideas as to why I am getting this am I downloaded the correct file?
thanks for any assistance you could give.
So, Im a contractor. Field Services mostly. Break/Fix and Installs for POS mostly.
Anyway, a recent contract I picked up found me installing new, cheap music solutions for a chain of gas stations im sure you've heard of. Regardless, the tab 8's they were using prior are old enough that they didn't want them back. I figured, well, it's a chance to break stuff potentially, and proceeded to do just that, unintentionally really.
Problem is, my dumbass jumped the gun and didn't really know much about MDM and wiped the cache before having the idea of calling my Buyer, and asking them to remove it from their MDM lineup. They did so, but it's essentially too late to matter now. Tablet just boots to the Sprint Logo and never goes past it. Odd, considering nothing ever sucessfully flashed the darn thing, but it's doing it nonetheless. I've tried MANY versions of Odin trying to flash TWRP but it always says MDM Mode: Cant Download on the tablet. It's safe to assume i've done everything youre not supposed to do in banging my head against the wall with this thing.
I've searched the forums over and over again, downloaded so many firmwares that I'd not be surprised if the internet held no more options than the ones I've gotten. Why would I need the firmware if TWRP never flashed? Because I've tried damn near everything I think. Including Heimdall. Im on a dual boot machine, and would prefer a Linux based solution if there is one to be had, but can go for Windows also I suppose.
What else...ADB and Fastboot both never detect the tablet, but I can lsusb and see the device, which mode it's in ( usually Download Mode, but also shows up as MTP if I am in Recovery ), and the bus info. If I go to recovery, and use update via ADB, obviously, ADB sees the device then, and I can sideload, but nothing works so far. It' always gives me a Error 21: Footer is Wrong no matter what I try to sideload.
Odin I do not remember what error it gave specifically, I'll try to hunt up a log somewhere, but I know when trying to flash the TWRP it would say something about write protection I think maybe? Not entirely sure. When just trying to flash the firmware, it would go past aboot.mbn to the next file and then fail, every single time.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. It's a cheap little paperweight, but it's a learning experience.
Nobody? Although I am not surprised, I am a bit disheartened. Mostly because it really is a learning experience really. It's difficult to express what my mind is trying to learn at any given time let alone search for an answer, being the worst case of ADD i've ever seen. Heh.
I've noticed that I can successfully flash some files, but not most others, and flashing said files seems to make no difference, probably because boot.img nor recovery.img are among the files that will successfully flash via sideload. Aboot.mbn, and Modem.bin both flashed I believe, and by that I mean, flash without giving me some sort of error such as failed to unpack lack packet or some such.
Trying to magic out how the damned things works hasn't gone great either. I"ve discovered the magical linux tool binwalk which is great, but either limited by what it can do, or im just too uneducated in it's proper usage despite reading the man over and over again....mostly.
Strangest thing...extracting the files examined with binwalk sometimes produces many magnitudes of size bigger files than the file contained. I am not exaggerating either. Extract a 1GB file and it produces less than that initially, then extract those files and I swear to God I get somewhere like 40GB, which is impossible as far as I"ve ever seen.