Hey guys,
I wanna reinstall a custom rom on my Mi9T, but I need one with no root or a way to banking apps don't know that I'm on a custom rom. I always used custom rom in all my smartphones with magisk to pass in Safetynet, but now some baking apps don't work anymore, like C6 bank (digital Brazilian bank), and other shows a message that in a few weeks my device won't be able to use the app because it's not safe and not use the original rom. All these apps are in the magisk hide, the magisk it's up to date too, I tried everything and nothing works.
What do you guys suggest? I don't want to go back to MIUI and for me, I don't need the root/magisk on my phone, but I wanna continue to use a custom rom.
Thanks
rafaelsian said:
Hey guys,
I wanna reinstall a custom rom on my Mi9T, but I need one with no root or a way to banking apps don't know that I'm on a custom rom. I always used custom rom in all my smartphones with magisk to pass in Safetynet, but now some baking apps don't work anymore, like C6 bank (digital Brazilian bank), and other shows a message that in a few weeks my device won't be able to use the app because it's not safe and not use the original rom. All these apps are in the magisk hide, the magisk it's up to date too, I tried everything and nothing works.
What do you guys suggest? I don't want to go back to MIUI and for me, I don't need the root/magisk on my phone, but I wanna continue to use a custom rom.
Thanks
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In the Magisk Wiki pages there are more hints how certain apps detect root and how to hide from, not only about Magisk hide
On the other side, to flash custom ROMs you need to have Bootloader unlocked. And that can be again a way for detecting 'root' (apps do not tell you exactly what unsafe they detected), hence you may again end up not being able to use your banking apps
To stay 100% safe in that cat and mouse game of "root" and detection, you should reflash stock, relock Bootloader and in future exclusively wait for OTAs to upgrade your stock ROM
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Is there any way to make this work?
Since CF-autoroot doesn't work in nougat, I dunno how to make this work..
I don't know if is even possible, because as soon as i flash TWRP I cannot encrypt it again..
anyone?
For now only way is to install TWRP + SuperSU then flash old recovery
Im not sure but for this process you dont need no-verity-opt-encrypt..
Im on 7.0 Nougat and waiting better way to root it, i dont want custom recovery and i hear when you install TWRP bootloop is granted in 50/50 attempts
Talentooman said:
For now only way is to install TWRP + SuperSU then flash old recovery
Im not sure but for this process you dont need no-verity-opt-encrypt..
Im on 7.0 Nougat and waiting better way to root it, i dont want custom recovery and i hear when you install TWRP bootloop is granted in 50/50 attempts
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But you tried that method? (Flashing TWRP + SuperSU and then back stock recovery)
Crap... Nougat is really nice, but some basic stuff is missing for me... encryption and Xposed
insaned said:
But you tried that method? (Flashing TWRP + SuperSU and then back stock recovery)
Crap... Nougat is really nice, but some basic stuff is missing for me... encryption and Xposed
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im really sad, so i install custom recovery, flash Nougat debloated rom with root preinstalled and now i lose my CSC, *#060# or any other code not working.. im now on 7.0 UK version stock firmware and UUID codes not working ..
Root and encryption aren't working right now. Chainfire (SuperSU Dev) and a few other users are trying to get it to work.
For the time being, the most you can do is use a ROM like Helios and pick the encryption option. You won't have root but you can flash mods to /system in TWRP
My current setup is
Helios
Stock Kernel
Encrypted
Dual Speaker Mod
Private Mode Works
S Health Works
AppLock Works
Android Pay Works
Banking Apps Work
Galactus said:
Root and encryption aren't working right now. Chainfire (SuperSU Dev) and a few other users are trying to get it to work.
For the time being, the most you can do is use a ROM like Helios and pick the encryption option. You won't have root but you can flash mods to /system in TWRP
My current setup is
Helios
Stock Kernel
Encrypted
Dual Speaker Mod
Private Mode Works
S Health Works
AppLock Works
Android Pay Works
Banking Apps Work
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Well, It's an option... the most interesting mods that I used were with Xposed anyway, and for that the wait is going to be longer.
The device not encrypted is not very nice though... I guess eventually I just try it out meanwhile.
Thanks for the heads up @Galactus
Just out of curiosity, why do you guys "insist" on encryption? I still don't understand the repercussions of a decrypted device, let alone those of an encrypted device. I genuinely don't know. This is not a sarcastic or passive aggressive question!
nitrous² said:
Just out of curiosity, why do you guys "insist" on encryption? I still don't understand the repercussions of a decrypted device, let alone those of an encrypted device. I genuinely don't know. This is not a sarcastic or passive aggressive question!
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Mainly data protection.
If my phone is stolen with encryption, once the thief turns the phone off that is it. The phone won't even fully load without my password. Sure, he can fully wipe the phone but this will also delete all of my data. Once reported stolen, it will simply be an expensive media player. Nougat also doesn't let you turn the phone off by using the power button unless you enter the phones password, so that helps using Android device manager or say Cerberus to locate the phone or enable it to play a loud alert
Without encryption. The thief can simply go into TWRP and take all the data
How about sd card encryption? Is this also not possible with rooted nougat? I just tried it and am stuck at the "checking sd card" message since hours. However the device is still working.
Has anyone received Google Assistant on their phones yet? Just curious.
Yep. You can force it with a build.prop edit. It worked for me, but I think there are mixed reports. Root required.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71272192&postcount=1520
I'm surprised to hear some people still don't have GA natively. I'm a long time HTC user, but I just bought my 10 last Fri. it's pretty sweet. although, I must say, I still REALLY like my One M8.
SilverZero said:
Yep. You can force it with a build.prop edit. It worked for me, but I think there are mixed reports. Root required.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=71272192&postcount=1520
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I unlocked my bootloader Saturday but I'm reluctant to root because I don't want to lose Android Pay. If I can modify some the build.prop for Google Assistant and get wi-fi hotspot then reboot so I can use Android pay then I might.
misfiremind said:
I unlocked my bootloader Saturday but I'm reluctant to root because I don't want to lose Android Pay. If I can modify some the build.prop for Google Assistant and get wi-fi hotspot then reboot so I can use Android pay then I might.
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I'm S-ON, unlocked bootloader, newest N firmware and latest Bad Boyz ROM (full version with MagiskSU, not SuperSU) and I have Android Pay working just fine. No reboot necessary, just use Magisk Manager to hide Magisk from Android Pay.
SilverZero said:
I'm S-ON, unlocked bootloader, newest N firmware and latest Bad Boyz ROM (full version with MagiskSU, not SuperSU) and I have Android Pay working just fine. No reboot necessary, just use Magisk Manager to hide Magisk from Android Pay.
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I know, but I've rooted and messed with custom ROMs on every phone I've had and I'm kind of tired of messing with that stuff. Really I think the best thing I could do is buy a Pixel. I'm tired of the different phone manufacturers and their bloated ROMs and the constant problems that custom ROMs have. At least for right now. Thanks though. I'll keep it in mind if I ever feel like jacking with that stuff again.
"OK Google" Always on!!??
So has anyone else noticed this?
The attached screenshot shows the settings for the "ok google" always listening feature. I know this feature is useful to launch google from any screen or even when the screen is off but I do not want this on for privacy reasons. I was always able to disable it on Marshmallow but now with N even when i turn it off it turns back on.
How to try to reproduce:
Turn off the feature
Exit the settings menu
Go back to the Ok google settings and see if its enabled again.
Is this happening to anyone else!?
misfiremind said:
I unlocked my bootloader Saturday but I'm reluctant to root because I don't want to lose Android Pay. If I can modify some the build.prop for Google Assistant and get wi-fi hotspot then reboot so I can use Android pay then I might.
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hate to be the bearer of bad news but SafetyNet will fail w/ a unlocked bootloader
misfiremind said:
I know, but I've rooted and messed with custom ROMs on every phone I've had and I'm kind of tired of messing with that stuff. Really I think the best thing I could do is buy a Pixel. I'm tired of the different phone manufacturers and their bloated ROMs and the constant problems that custom ROMs have. At least for right now. Thanks though. I'll keep it in mind if I ever feel like jacking with that stuff again.
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you must not be familar w/ Magisk....the "magic" of magisk can modify the phone w/o actually modifying /system, so technically u have a stock device but custom at the same time...plus magisk hide allows AP to work & pass SafetyNet
my Magisk ROM has all the mods & bloatware removed just like my custom ROM...
deakelem said:
So has anyone else noticed this?
The attached screenshot shows the settings for the "ok google" always listening feature. I know this feature is useful to launch google from any screen or even when the screen is off but I do not want this on for privacy reasons. I was always able to disable it on Marshmallow but now with N even when i turn it off it turns back on.
How to try to reproduce:
Turn off the feature
Exit the settings menu
Go back to the Ok google settings and see if its enabled again.
Is this happening to anyone else!?
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this is from my Bolt, so it may be different, but I can disable just fine...
OMJ said:
hate to be the bearer of bad news but SafetyNet will fail w/ a unlocked bootloader
you must not be familar w/ Magisk....the "magic" of magisk can modify the phone w/o actually modifying /system, so technically u have a stock device but custom at the same time...plus magisk hide allows AP to work & pass SafetyNet
my Magisk ROM has all the mods & bloatware removed just like my custom ROM...
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I didn't even try after unlocking because I'm still waiting for my bank to support Android Pay, but I just checked and your right. I'm blocked from Android Pay. Might as well figure out how to root and install a ROM this weekend. ? And no, I have no idea what Magisk is, but I guess I'll have to figure it out.
deakelem said:
So has anyone else noticed this?
The attached screenshot shows the settings for the "ok google" always listening feature. I know this feature is useful to launch google from any screen or even when the screen is off but I do not want this on for privacy reasons. I was always able to disable it on Marshmallow but now with N even when i turn it off it turns back on.
How to try to reproduce:
Turn off the feature
Exit the settings menu
Go back to the Ok google settings and see if its enabled again.
Is this happening to anyone else!?
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Mine seems to work fine. Have you tried clearing the Google App data? I had an issue with a couple of apps after the Nougat update and had to clear the data and uninstall then reinstall the apps to get them working correctly.
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Mine seems to work fine. Have you tried clearing the Google App data? I had an issue with a couple of apps after the Nougat update and had to clear the data and uninstall then reinstall the apps to get them working correctly.
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Ill try that but I flashed N using the RUU and then clean installed OMJ's badboys rom so no app data would have been there during M to N
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this is from my Bolt, so it may be different, but I can disable just fine...
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Thats strange, i dont have all those menu entries... could be cause I have work email on my phone via activesync which restricts certain security and lockscreen options.
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hate to be the bearer of bad news but SafetyNet will fail w/ a unlocked bootloader
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I'm confused . . . My bootloader is unlocked, has been since I got my 10 last summer, and I just used Android Pay this weekend, and Magisk Manager says I'm currently passing SafetyNet. Android Pay is checked in Magisk Hide.
Are you saying that unlocking the bootloader alone will cause SafetyNet to fail, but Magisk Hide will then allow it again?
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I'm confused . . . My bootloader is unlocked, has been since I got my 10 last summer, and I just used Android Pay this weekend, and Magisk Manager says I'm currently passing SafetyNet. Android Pay is checked in Magisk Hide.
Are you saying that unlocking the bootloader alone will cause SafetyNet to fail, but Magisk Hide will then allow it again?
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yes, merely having the bootloader unlocked even w/ 100% stock ROM, safetynet will fail....the beauty of magisk is that it hides it
I think at this point I'd rather relock my bootloader and go back to using my Galaxy S4 while I try to sell my HTC 10 and then put that money towards a Pixel. Anybody wanna buy a phone? ?
It's here! I literally just this minute got Google Assistant!
OMJ said:
hate to be the bearer of bad news but SafetyNet will fail w/ a unlocked bootloader
you must not be familar w/ Magisk....the "magic" of magisk can modify the phone w/o actually modifying /system, so technically u have a stock device but custom at the same time...plus magisk hide allows AP to work & pass SafetyNet
my Magisk ROM has all the mods & bloatware removed just like my custom ROM...
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I think I am going to give this a shot. I am running your stock rooted with TWRP while S-on. Can I just install your Magisk Full Rom and go from there or is that too easy to believe? Thanks OMJ!
OMJ said:
hate to be the bearer of bad news but SafetyNet will fail w/ a unlocked bootloader
you must not be familar w/ Magisk....the "magic" of magisk can modify the phone w/o actually modifying /system, so technically u have a stock device but custom at the same time...plus magisk hide allows AP to work & pass SafetyNet
my Magisk ROM has all the mods & bloatware removed just like my custom ROM...
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Is magisk a ROM or more of a mod? And what is magisk su? I'm going to try and get my phone rooted this weekend but I can't find a tutorial thread, it seems to be scattered everywhere. It seems like I fastboot TWRP, flash SuperSU, flash magisk then install magisk manager from Google Play?
misfiremind said:
I didn't even try after unlocking because I'm still waiting for my bank to support Android Pay, but I just checked and your right. I'm blocked from Android Pay. Might as well figure out how to root and install a ROM this weekend. ? And no, I have no idea what Magisk is, but I guess I'll have to figure it out.
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im running viper due to lack of cm/aosp st the moment.. so i have magisk but i have no idea what it is or how to use it. very little instruction out there.
Has anyone been successful in editing their build.prop file to activate (or deactivate) Google Assistant? I actually want to deactivate Google Assistant but I can't seem save changes to my build.prop file.
I have root on stock ROM.
Set SE Linux to permissive.
Tried using Root Explorer and build.prop Editor. Both give me an error message stating it can't save the build.prop file.
Suggestions?
Hi there! So I got the One Plus 3T back in November and have been running root W/ Magisk. This is my first phone and I managed to root it with a little help from a friend of mine. The phone is working perfectly and I can do everything I want to. I do want to move from 4.0.2 to the latest however and am not sure how to do that. I've done rooting before and don't mind losing data normally, but this time I really don't want to lose some of the things that are on my phone. Is there a safe way/Guide I missed that would allow me to update to the latest version? I really don't want to lose my data/pictures/texts/ one app or trip safetynet.
In fact, the safetynet part is what has me the most worried since I play games like Pokemon GO and use android pay.
can anyone help?
Just update to the latest (idk if you mean beta or stable) and flash magisk (idk if it keeps or not) but I am running latest beta with magisk and I also play Pokemon go so no worry about safetynet, just copy your files to a computer just in case....cause we all know the problems with TWRP and encryption
Guihardrock said:
Just update to the latest (idk if you mean beta or stable) and flash magisk (idk if it keeps or not) but I am running latest beta with magisk and I also play Pokemon go so no worry about safetynet, just copy your files to a computer just in case....cause we all know the problems with TWRP and encryption
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When you say update, do you mean take the OTA update or just flash through TWRP?
If you take the otra you lose the root but you can do ir the way you want maybe through twrp you also lose ii idk
Xeraphim98 said:
When you say update, do you mean take the OTA update or just flash through TWRP?
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Follow this tutorial for rooted users...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...nos-3-5-4-mm-ota-update-t3519074/post70084260
-Preface: I have never rooted an Android phone before. I really want to but I have questions/concerns that I want to address before I do so. My daily driver and the phone I want to root is a OnePlus 5 running Android 7.1.1 Nougat.
-I want to root my phone to learn how to root and gain the experience from it (one of the reasons I built my own PC, besides just having an amazing gaming PC), delete all the garbage apps that I can't uninstall or can only disable, I want access to the very useful apps only accessible with root access of a phone, etc.
-Is it safe to root an Android phone?
-How do I root my phone?
-Should I be installing any antivirus/anti-malware software to plug security problems that comes with rooting an Android device? (I currently have Malwarebytes Pro; I was grandfathered in so I don't need to pay for it.)
-Here are some apps that I plan on using with my rooted phone (these either require rooting or significantly benefit from it): Oxygen Updater, Greenify, Sixaxis Controller, SuperSU, Titanium Backup, system app remover, Flashfire, Keepass2 USB Keyboard Plugin, Flashify, Lucky Patcher, Adaway, Game hacker app (Freedom APK?)
-Are there any other apps that you can suggest that I use with a rooted Android phone?
-Will OTA updates still work? I would absolutely hate having to re-root every single time OnePlus releases an update. (I think Oxygen Updater and Flashfire might be able to solve this problem.)
-I'm not sure if all of my concerns/questions that I have are laid out here but I would love all feedback, responses, and additional concerns you may raise with rooting. Thanks so much!
This looks like the page I might be looking for as to how to root the OnePlus 5: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/how-to/oneplus-5-unlock-bootloader-flash-twrp-t3624877. Not sure what any of the terminology means at the moment, but when/if I'm ready to root, this seems like the place to do it.
Ah safe as houses these days xD, just make sure your on the latest OOS firmware and follow that guide you've linked. You learn from your mistakes and just remember you've got a team of people willing to help you out with any issues if you do mess up
blackcell1 said:
Ah safe as houses these days xD, just make sure your on the latest OOS firmware and follow that guide you've linked. You learn from your mistakes and just remember you've got a team of people willing to help you out with any issues if you do mess up
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Does rooting completely wipe the phone of all its data? If so, how do I ensure it's all backed up in case something goes wrong? All my important things (my files: images, videos, etc.) are uploaded to cloud services (Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive), so I won't lose any of that stuff, but I absolutely (1) cannot brick my phone, and (2) I don't want to have to, in case something goes wrong, reinstall all my apps, sign into them again, change the settings to the way I like, etc.
FamilyGuy0395 said:
Does rooting completely wipe the phone of all its data? If so, how do I ensure it's all backed up in case something goes wrong? All my important things (my files: images, videos, etc.) are uploaded to cloud services (Google Drive and Microsoft OneDrive), so I won't lose any of that stuff, but I absolutely (1) cannot brick my phone, and (2) I don't want to have to, in case something goes wrong, reinstall all my apps, sign into them again, change the settings to the way I like, etc.
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The root process itself does not wipe anything. But you have to unlock your bootloader first, and this will inevitably wipe everything on your phone including internal storage.
So any apps you have installed so far (and their settings) will be lost unless that app has some export settings feature. Nothing you can do about it now.
All the steps necessary for unlocking and rooting can be found at the link you posted. I followed the same guide and I'm good to go and had no problems.
Rooted or unrooted, an antivirus is optional and it's up to you if you want one. I personally don't use one.
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The root process itself does not wipe anything. But you have to unlock your bootloader first, and this will inevitably wipe everything on your phone including internal storage.
So any apps you have installed so far (and their settings) will be lost unless that app has some export settings feature. Nothing you can do about it now.
All the steps necessary for unlocking and rooting can be found at the link you posted. I followed the same guide and I'm good to go and had no problems.
Rooted or unrooted, an antivirus is optional and it's up to you if you want one. I personally don't use one.
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What is SafetyNet? Does it have anything to do with Google Play apps passing some sort of security test in order for them to function/open? How do I not lose access to some apps (like Android Pay is one of them that I have heard) that fail this SafetyNet test?
FamilyGuy0395 said:
What is SafetyNet? Does it have anything to do with Google Play apps passing some sort of security test in order for them to function/open? How do I not lose access to some apps (like Android Pay is one of them that I have heard) that fail this SafetyNet test?
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Yes, that's it. Pokémon GO and Mario Run are other two examples.
You can bypass it with Magisk, but it's never forever as SafetyNet gets updated and then you have to wait for Magisk to get updated. It's a never-ending cat and mouse game.
Ugh, that's an unbelievable pain in the ass... I don't get why people who root their phones have all these extra burdens. I want to root my phone really badly but with all these hurdles I honestly am not sure if it's worth it.
Are there any other apps I haven't mentioned or any other root benefits any of you guys can mention to persuade me in the direction of rooting?
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Ugh, that's an unbelievable pain in the ass... I don't get why people who root their phones have all these extra burdens. I want to root my phone really badly but with all these hurdles I honestly am not sure if it's worth it.
Are there any other apps I haven't mentioned or any other root benefits any of you guys can mention to persuade me in the direction of rooting?
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Simply being able to delete applications that I don't want got me into rooting. I cannot persuade, but if the SafetyNet thing is something that is going to hold you back because you use those applications then it's up to you. I know people that have rooted phones and manage with Magisk as a workaround, but yes it's a cat and mouse deal in the end. The ability to flash custom kernels and customize the UI (through substratum or custom ROM) is also a plus! ?
I think you should root only if you have time to learn about android OS, rooting your phone will grants you the full access for everything and you'll have full control in it... Then there are some apps or mods that requires rooted phone (substratum for theming is AMAZING) but here it's up to you... The question is, what you want to do with your phone? If you like/want to have complete control over it and a lot of feature then install a custom rom
God damnit I'd love to root but the more research I do into SafetyNet rooting just seems not even worth it if I have to keep losing access to apps I use...
The reasons I want to root basically boil down to me wanting to trash garbage apps I don't use and can't uninstall and to install cool apps that require root access.
SafetyNet is not important in my opinion.. I've used Android rooted with supersu (no SafetyNet) for years and I've never miss anything..
Is that app list I have above include useful apps, in your opinion? Are any of them redundant? Any other ones I shouldn't miss out on?
A few banking apps use safetynet. If it's vitallyimportant youhave a banking app working, keep in mind you can still access through internet, then this can be a deal breaker...
I think you're going to find most people here are pro root as this is a developers forum - so saying, it opens up a world of ease with which to do things that aren't available to most people and allows you to do things they can't, nerd cool factor high...
FamilyGuy0395 said:
God damnit I'd love to root but the more research I do into SafetyNet rooting just seems not even worth it if I have to keep losing access to apps I use...
The reasons I want to root basically boil down to me wanting to trash garbage apps I don't use and can't uninstall and to install cool apps that require root access.
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just youtube the process
FamilyGuy0395 said:
God damnit I'd love to root but the more research I do into SafetyNet rooting just seems not even worth it if I have to keep losing access to apps I use...
The reasons I want to root basically boil down to me wanting to trash garbage apps I don't use and can't uninstall and to install cool apps that require root access.
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In the past I used to always root but to me it's not worth it anymore. To me AP is incredibly convenient. Not willing to play cat and mouse with it. This phone doesn't really have bloat and tethering works flawlessly for
me. Tethering and AP are two of the most important features for me.
In order to spoof Pokemon Go I need to be able to
Root
Systemize a GPS app
clean unroot
Currently the bootloader is still locked on the AT&T version of the phone.
I have installed and went through this guide here However the issue is at the end of it I have a "stock" rom that doesn't pass SafetyNet Check.
This prevents Pokemon Go from being playable (It won't launch)
Is there a way to inject the GPS APK into a stock 6.0.1 rom? Then I could flash that using ODIN and it would work.
Is there a way to do this in Kitchen Poision? I just found this, but read it needs a rooted rom to work with. Is there a way install a newer Rom systemize, then recover and still keep the system app systemized?
If I systemize the app and then move it to my SD card, then flash back to stock rom, can I move the systemized app on the SD card back to the phone?
I'm thinking there is a solution to do this I just don't have the 100% knowledge to do it.