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Whats new oN the Windows mobile Front
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We have solitaire built-in and our pride.
Nobody is taking over because of some .net, instead we might see some co-operation and multiplatform applications. (like java)
Symbian taking over? Symbian & Nokia are already dominating the smartphone market, and the situation has been like this for quite some time... WM is an underdog in the smartphones world.
It's almost like Nokia has become the new MS in the mobile world... I still have strong faith in the future of windows mobile OS though... MS needs to stop focus on business users primarly and start spewing out multimedia machines similar to the Nokia N95 that are easy to use for "normal" users aswell...
I think WM is a bit to complicated for it's own good atm... It needs to become more user friendly but still as powerful as it is...
.net imho is as slugish on pocketpc's as java
and most widely used applications are not .net
but for symbian i sure hope that they become the most
successfull .net port because the 2th most successfull i know
of mono for linux still got some maturing to get
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MS needs to stop focus on business users primarly and start spewing out multimedia machines similar to the Nokia N95 that are easy to use for "normal" users aswell...
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Exactly. Too bad the current Windows Mobile hardware manufacturers just don't seem to undrstand this. For example, currently, hardware-wise, there's simply no better Windows mobile-based device than the Nokia N-95 (N95-3 / 8GB). I know this, because I have a Nokia N95 and find it, hardware-wise, WAY better than any Windows Mobile device out there.
HTC, i-mate etc. should really learn, at last, how to produce a decent, consumer-oriented PDA.
well nokia have a pretty long time exp with mobile stuff
where ms like apple look to usa who are in many ways behind
the rest of the world on the way of mobile phone stuff
As ppl are trying to port android into windows mobile
are android ppl thinking of porting a windows mobile os into htc magic??
its just a question If it becomes this way then its awesome i can go to any os i want.
windows or ion os or hero os
it will best
NO, why in the world would you want to?? The hardware isn't supported.
Oh yeah I would think this is the wrong place to post this, should have gone in General.
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ClintonH said:
NO, why in the world would you want to?? The hardware isn't supported.
Oh yeah I would think this is the wrong place to post this, should have gone in General.
Clinton
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just askin i dont want it. still wanted to know it
[IS THERE] A brain in your head?
This is the development forum, not the general section, please go post it in the appropriate section.
Also why would you want Windows Mobile on your Magic? It seems stupid to me when Android beats WM in most aspects.
There's always the one good reason everyone falls back on when they are supporting the Windows platforms: application support. If you have programs that you've paid lots of money for and want to continue using them, then your best option is to stay with the OS you are using (Windows 90% of the time).
I have a HTC Magic which I use constantly with the latest CyanogenMod ROM, and I have a Macbook that I do all my school work on. But until all the games I want to play are released for those platforms, I'm always going to be in need of at least one Windows computer.
@ahmgsk: The reason you see everyone here trying to install Android on everything is because it is free, we are encouraged to do so by Google, and it's a fun system to play with. Windows Phone (or whatever they are calling it this week) has to be licensed specifically for each device in order to do this legally and the source is closed making it too difficult to bother with.
impossible, windows mobile doesnt support capacitive touch screens.
Ive never owned a windows mobile and really dont know an awful lot about this platform but Im curious and have a question. Can the windows mobile be hacked the same way an iphone and android can be hacked (jailbreak and rooting). Sorr4y if thise sounds like a stupid question but I really dont know the answer
I played around with the new Nokia Lumia in my local three store anmd was quite impressed with its speed. Thanks in advance guys
The reason Windows Mobile was so popular in its hey day, and the reason some people continue to use it is because it doesn't need jailbreaking or rooting, its a pretty open environment. For years apps have been able to change the UI and experience quite a bit, stuff that even on Android would require rooting. Its also possible to dual boot on Windows Mobile, that how Android can be run on some devices.
Windows Mobile is now disconnected and has been replaced with Windows Phone 7 which runs on a more locked down format similar to the iPhone.
BlueStracks is gonna bring all android apps to Windows 8. This is very exciting news. I would buy a Windows 8 tablet if the apps works as good as they work on Android.
Source
Installed the beta on my Lenovo touchscreen netbook. I installed google maps and it runs well but it won't recognize the Bluetooth GPS receiver so won't navigate hoping when they release the pro version this feature will work
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I'll be excited to see how this goes. Android app library + Metro UI= YES PLEASE
This kind of hackability is gonna make x86 Windows on a tablet *the* best choice for power users in the coming years...
Bluestack is nothing new, nothing fancy and nothing impressible. It is way slow (even for a i7) and it uses a lot of resources. They promised that they will fix those bugs but apparently the only work that they do was to make it a "windows 8 exclusive". meh.
who wants to use ugly ****ty phone apps on windows 8?
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who wants to use ugly ****ty phone apps on windows 8?
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Ha.... Considering windows 8 aps are meant to work across multiple devices I would assume a lot of people want it. WP7 apps will work on win 8 pcs and Xbox 360's and vise versa
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Aaron McCarthy said:
Considering windows 8 aps are meant to work across multiple devices I would assume a lot of people want it.
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As long as you are using the WinRT Just another way to lock down things
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As long as you are using the WinRT Just another way to lock down things
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Android does this as well more or less you just won't find anyone using android as the OS on their PC. So here's where MS has a leg up. I'd more say it's a smart way of doing business... What company wouldn't want to make just ONE app that'll work across different types of devices
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hey... i test drove bluestacks oover thanksgiving and had a code and allthat and ran every app i had over the course of two hours then forgot aboout it.
now i cant seem to get a code... im signed up for the beta and all that but wheres the code?
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Now we've just got to successfully emulate Windows 7/8 and iOS on Android. iEmu would've been great but thats discontinued now
Yeah I love BlueStacks, it's really well made. Can't wait for the beta to come out
Just saw that beta got released. Anyone know what information they access to provide this? Google search listed terms and privacy links for their official website but clicking them just brought me to their homepage to download the application. Just wanted to do some reading before I try it out
Edit: site is overloaded which is why some parts such as privacy and terms pages are not accessible. Got the information that they'll be replaced with light versions for now. Also if anyone's interested as to how they work out what apps are on your device, they just pull the installed application list from your device. They don't look at or connect through the Google account to get the list from the Google play store. Not trying to be awkward, I was just enquiring what privacy or information I have to give up in order to use this beta service (which is free to use, so I was just looking for a catch) and how they access information. Seems okay to me now .
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Yup, just saw this news this morning and i was pretty excited to try angry birds and angry birds space on my PC!!!!! I like the fact that most apps work not just the games and entertainment ones. Hopefully soon the WP8 merges with windows 8 and then we have one Marketplace for all devices
I'm definitely going to have to install Windows 8 on the MBP through VMware and then try this application out. Talk about super cool!
I dont think that bluestacks will support ALL android Apps, for example, is hard to give support to 3d games or AR apps...
bluestacks is slow and clunky.
tested on series7 samsung slate.
I'd totally get a Windows tablet if it could run all the Android apps as well as W8, with that and a keyboard dock I could replace my current Android tab & laptop.
now this is cool
What is blue stack???
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I'm looking at the 950XL as it seems to have all the specs of the Nexus 6P but also includes USB 3.1, which is very important to me (I currently have a Note 3 which needs upgrading).
Project Astoria quite interests me; can you use any Android App with this, or just certain ones?
One thing I like about Android is the ability to flash ROMs; I don't think there's anything like this with Windows is there?
(Slightly dodgy topic to talk about) On Android I can just search for an app adding the word 'apk' on Google and download it for free. Is there anyway to do this on Windows?
I used to run Windows Mobile and before that Windows CE, before switching to Android
I just saw your question. Here is some of what I know. As of right now there is an app called 'bluestack' that allows you to run apks as if on android with google services this is a win 8 app though.
There are plus' and minus' here.
1. The feature that makes what you that interested in are win universal apps. That announced by MS is supposed to be repackaged Android apks and converted to universal apps. They then would use Windows services. (a minus or a plus depending on preferences)
2. Blue stack (and its alternatives)may need to be updated to a win 10 universal app. The biggest upside to the 950/xl are that dual booting maybe possible. And a full emulation is possible almost like having 2 phones in one. I say that because of how windows runs or promises to run. With win10 it should be a hackers/tinkerers/dev dream. Leading to more of the apps you may want to port over.
3. Porting maybe possible with the tools MS provide. You maybe able to repackage apks on your own into win10 universal apps.
4.this is the last thing. You maybe able to enjoy 3rd party win10 apps. There are alternatives to twitter for example on windows but no actual Twitter app which some say are better than Twitter's actual app. Also some reporters have said that microsoft are offer to build apps(official) for companies like Twitter and then hand it over to them and they then take over maintenance. But that hasn't worked so far.
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Many thanks for your reply. I've been reading a lot, trying to get my head around the new Windows Phone experience. It seems vastly different from what I used to have on my HTC HD2, which was my last Windows Phone.
One app I use a lot and I find useful is Truecaller, it tells you who's calling, even if you don't have their number in your phone. I presume this needs some sort of integration with the OS. I wonder if Project Astoria offers this level of integration.
My last windows phone was also the HD2 and I've used android ever since. I recently bought a lumia so I could try windows 10 preview. There are a couple of things I miss:
- the ability to transfer files to/from my NAS through WiFi without having to go through a pc
- swipe keyboard doesn't work in some places, eg works in messaging but not in browser
- android .nomedia facility
- banking - my bank is HSBC and they don't have a windows app
If the 950x windows 10 version fixes the first two of these then that will be my next phone.
My banking app also isnt on WP10.
I also like to use DOSbox to play old games on my phone.
Also Torque for hooking up to cars ECU via a bluetooth OBD2 reader.
No Starbucks app
I also use my LG Gwatch to receive notification on my wrist at work. As Im not allowed to get my phone, this is a very very handy feature for me.
I think I'm too invested in Android right now. I am a real Windows 10 Phone wannabe though. I wish I could afford both the Nexus 6P and Lumia 950XL.
Windows Lumia 950xl check every check in the box for what i want in a smartphone on the hardware side... But my issues is that i know that you can port apps over but how many official apps from ios and android made it to the windows store. Once they have app they will have me as a new consumer
https://youtu.be/P2wKJK5cr3M
https://youtu.be/Eu3EMS4dvv8
Look at these vids, they can give you an idea of what to expect with w10 mobile
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Hey folks,
I figured this thread would be a good place to ask since it already existed. A little background. I'm a heavily entrenched Android user since the Evo 4G days and have service with several telecoms and own several phones as well. I saw the new presentation and I was really impressed, however, I need some help to see if the switch is right for me.
1) I use Google Voice to manage all of my numbers and phones. I heard that Skype doesn't allow number Port In, however, does allow forwarding. Does anyone know if this is true? Why don't they allow number Port In? Is it coming in the future? Any creative solutions around this?
2) I don't own a P.C., so Continuum really intrigues me. I've always owned PlayStation and loved being able to stream my PlayStation to my Sony phones and play remotely. Would I be able to stream XBoxOne to my phone and use Continuum to play on a monitor? What about streaming to a T.V. for Netflix or other apps like that?
3) I'm really interested in turning my home "smart". I know that Android has a big IoT platform and it'll be great with NEST and the other things they have coming down the pipeline. What about Windows? Is there a platform available? What products support it? Can it all be phone controlled and do apps exist for them?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated as I'm sure there are others in my boat who might have similar questions.
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2015/09/18/elephone-vowney-dual-boots-android-and-windows-10-for-299/
Guys i thought this may also be useful to keep in mind. There maybe a US compatible version at some point.
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UserDemos said:
Hey folks,
I figured this thread would be a good place to ask since it already existed. A little background. I'm a heavily entrenched Android user since the Evo 4G days and have service with several telecoms and own several phones as well. I saw the new presentation and I was really impressed, however, I need some help to see if the switch is right for me.
1) I use Google Voice to manage all of my numbers and phones. I heard that Skype doesn't allow number Port In, however, does allow forwarding. Does anyone know if this is true? Why don't they allow number Port In? Is it coming in the future? Any creative solutions around this?
2) I don't own a P.C., so Continuum really intrigues me. I've always owned PlayStation and loved being able to stream my PlayStation to my Sony phones and play remotely. Would I be able to stream XBoxOne to my phone and use Continuum to play on a monitor? What about streaming to a T.V. for Netflix or other apps like that?
3) I'm really interested in turning my home "smart". I know that Android has a big IoT platform and it'll be great with NEST and the other things they have coming down the pipeline. What about Windows? Is there a platform available? What products support it? Can it all be phone controlled and do apps exist for them?
Any insight would be greatly appreciated as I'm sure there are others in my boat who might have similar questions.
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So in theory you can do this with windows phone right now. remember one windows isn't anything new. windows 8.1 is on the xbox one. And you can use the pass through feature on any windows device. On windows 10, its all the same, even on mobile because on phone it is full windows running (just slightly different ui, right now if windows 10 on desktop is told its on an under 6inch screen it locks into mobile or atleast the apps do, per windows weekly). Even though it is mobile you could run full photo shop on the phone with a couple of hacks. The one issue is Windows doesn't run well on Arm processors snapdragon 810 and 808... Look out also for a zenfone 2 running Windows 10 mobile. Also the is some one hacking the zenfone to port windows 10.
My dream is for the test windows 10 mobile rom that was being tested on xiaomi mi4 could get ported.
Also microsoft has debated on creating a rom that's flashable to android devices. That helps them get the 1billion user goal. And also attract devs and hacking enthusiasts.
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So this is full Windows 10? But on ARM?
Could I install and run any programs that I can install on my laptop then?
Does the phone have some kind of x86 to ARM translator?
No, it is not full Win10.
It only runs "universal" apps (the successor of the "metro" apps of windows 8/8.1/10)...
Truecaller is already available on win10 mobile. It shows info about who is calling but also can act as your call and text message spam filter, a feature I don't think they have on Android.
I broke my Icon unfortunately so can't post screenshots.
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I'm in the same boat. The 950 checks all my boxes hardware wise, but I do think it'll be hard to switch.
What I am doing is getting a Lumia 640, pretty cheap from BB: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/at-t-go...lack/9231014.p?id=1219701750248&skuId=9231014
Figure that would be a good device to test everything out on and see if I can make the switch. And I could probably sell it in a few months to close to what I paid for it.
Indeed fantastic price.
If my 950 XL proves (too) good, I might get a cheapo previous model so that my wife also switches.
(and only keep my Z4 Tablet LTE - that is getting Marshmallow soon - to keep contact with Android)
I actually waited to the last minute if a really serious device comes out this year from Android and only three came "close but no cigar" (the others far behind including the Note5, a series I used to be a fan and they stupidly killed by turning to a fashion series like S series):
- LG V10. I don't like the little screen (mostly the awkward positioning and that is not AMOLED but is always on - which kind of defeats the concept) and I don't care about the two selfie cams. Also you make it tough. Why not water resistant (at least) also?
- Z5 Premium. I always liked the Z series, but they failed to really advance it and now you can even call it ugly. 4K for a non-4K ready world is just a nice selling bullet. You put a super-MP camers, with no OIS and a simple single LED flash. Goofy.
- Moto X Force. No biometrics at all? In 2015? (also I kind of fear Moto as a brand for years now)
Anyway... few more days to a month to see if we made the right choice.
Love my Windows 10 1511 update that has extras to support coexistense with Win 10 phone...
MSFT don't screw this.
I started with windows hacking until I bought a HTC evo 4g. I have had 4 nexus devices and currently on the nexus 6. When the 950xl becomes available i am ditching the 6 for windows again after several years of android. Just out grew android. It was fun buy going back to where it all started.
No, only universal apps are able to run on Arm and X86 Plattform. W10 is similar on Arm and X86 but all Apps / Programms has to do the step and create Universal Apps while also Microsoft seems to work on Phones which are based on X86 CPU.
So this is a first step into the future which will provide same stuff on Desktop, Tablet and Phones. While Android has no Desktop OS and Apple has IOS and MAC OS seperated, Microsoft did the next step to Melt all worlds together. Now it is on us to support this way and on them to work continously to improve the process.
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No, only universal apps are able to run on Arm and X86 Plattform. W10 is similar on Arm and X86 but all Apps / Programms has to do the step and create Universal Apps while also Microsoft seems to work on Phones which are based on X86 CPU.
So this is a first step into the future which will provide same stuff on Desktop, Tablet and Phones. While Android has no Desktop OS and Apple has IOS and MAC OS seperated, Microsoft did the next step to Melt all worlds together. Now it is on us to support this way and on them to work continously to improve the process.
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I feel windows mobile will make a come back.
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I feel windows mobile will make a come back.
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Totally agree and i don't like the way Samsung is heading, no microsSD, removable battery etc.
MS is no Saint with privacy, but Google is ignoring us users more and more.
A bought a 950xl just a few days ago.
Having a Android device for years, this Lumia is fun, new etc.
Although i must say, the available / working apps is a bit....
Anyone has a working Tapatalk yet?
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Totally agree and i don't like the way Samsung is heading, no microsSD, removable battery etc.
MS is no Saint with privacy, but Google is ignoring us users more and more.
A bought a 950xl just a few days ago.
Having a Android device for years, this Lumia is fun, new etc.
Although i must say, the available / working apps is a bit....
Anyone has a working Tapatalk yet?
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Yes, apps, always been lacking there. I have a feeling that's gonna change. Windows phone hacking & development is coming back. I will hold on to my nexus and gonna get the 950xl
KeesStolk said:
Totally agree and i don't like the way Samsung is heading, no microsSD, removable battery etc.
MS is no Saint with privacy, but Google is ignoring us users more and more.
A bought a 950xl just a few days ago.
Having a Android device for years, this Lumia is fun, new etc.
Although i must say, the available / working apps is a bit....
Anyone has a working Tapatalk yet?
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Same for me, I used Sammy phones for some years now and it seems they lost the track more and more. For sure there is a need for more apps but its a bit a Chicken and Egg thing. If you ask Software companies they tell you that there are not enough Windows phones to make it worth to develop a APP and if you ask customers they tell you that there are not enough apps to make it worth buying a Windows Phone... Actually I see Windows Phones appear in more and more companies where they replace IPhones. ALso the Bridge Projects seems to be more promissing then the Astoria one. For us as WP users we must not care about as most good apps exist for IOS and ANdroid at the same time. If the porting from IOS work good, we will get a lot of apps soon. The rest is on Microsoft then, they have to motivate companies to create a lot of universal apps. Actually the 950/950XL seems to be the only phones with some inovation right now. Lets see end of 2016 where we are.
I forget to mention that there exist a Tapatalk app and it works. Not that good but it works and do the job.