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Xiaomi Mi5s Plus Camera Review - A Dual-camera Monster?

Hi,
I could not find the Mi5s Plus thread, so posting my in-depth Xiaomi Mi5s Plus camera review here:
Mod Edit: Link removed.
I hope you guys like it!
Cheers,
Linus

I've the phone now and camera is a let down.
Stereo mode is very slow
No bokeh mode
Pictures are very grainy/noisy

ksekhar said:
I've the phone now and camera is a let down.
Stereo mode is very slow
No bokeh mode
Pictures are very grainy/noisy
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Where did you buy it from? Can you send it back?

Thanks for the great review! Very helpful.
I really am incredibly tempted by this phone, after hovering with my finger on the checkout button for a couple of days I decided to hold off.
1. The Mi Note 2 due to be announced in 5 days is shaping up very interestingly and may not be too different a price point
2. There's still no TWRP. The standard 5s had a port in a few days but the delay and lack of outrage makes me cautious there's not going to be much active development outside of MIUI and coming from a Redmi Note 2 I wouldn't mind a change.

ermacwins said:
Where did you buy it from? Can you send it back?
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Got it from honorbuy.com
Not sure if I can send back as there's no manufacturing defect with the phone it's just that camera sucks.
Bought it for camera but noisy and no bokeh is a deal breaker
Samples below.
HDR, auto and stereo mode in that order. I have to say HDR is very slow. If you shake during the photo process you'll have blurred picture. You'll notice auto is noisy!

I am thinking to change g4 (bootloop issue) with one of Xiaomi phones. Was very tempted to buy 5s plus or 5s but will settle with MI5 Pro....

Why you getting mi5 pro?

ermacwins said:
Why you getting mi5 pro?
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- reduced price since "S" has been launched
- there is a very little difference between S820 and 821
- memory is the same
- screen is the same
- camera is not that good at all on "S"- no OIS, artifacts in some reviews in video, focus issues...

Gregzi said:
- reduced price since "S" has been launched
- there is a very little difference between S820 and 821
- memory is the same
- screen is the same
- camera is not that good at all on "S"- no OIS, artifacts in some reviews in video, focus issues...
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How much are you paying for it?
The EIS isn't that bad. I'm guessing the camera can improve with updates. The Google Pixel has the same sensor and its a very good camera

ksekhar said:
I've the phone now and camera is a let down.
Stereo mode is very slow
No bokeh mode
Pictures are very grainy/noisy
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Why not open the phone and replace the dual cams with dual imx378 modules? Is it possible?

Ahm_Shoaib said:
Why not open the phone and replace the dual cams with dual imx378 modules? Is it possible?
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prying open a phone to replace cameras is not fun (at least not for me) and there is a very little guarantee that it would work as firmware needs to be adapted. Better live with it or get phone you love (tested Huawai Honor phones and they have awesome dual cameras) than getting stuck with one you dont like

Ther's an app compatible with this camera? The stock can't Save raw photo..

ksekhar said:
Got it from honorbuy.com
Not sure if I can send back as there's no manufacturing defect with the phone it's just that camera sucks.
Bought it for camera but noisy and no bokeh is a deal breaker
Samples below.
HDR, auto and stereo mode in that order. I have to say HDR is very slow. If you shake during the photo process you'll have blurred picture. You'll notice auto is noisy!
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Someone told it can't have Bokeh because one of the captor is monochrome but now the Huawei mate 9 is out and it has Bokeh with a monochrome captor so maybe Bokeh will come in a software update?! I want that too.

Has anybody seen Meizu Pro 6 capabilities in real life?
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It seems you are posting on the wrong section

EMJI79 said:
Someone told it can't have Bokeh because one of the captor is monochrome but now the Huawei mate 9 is out and it has Bokeh with a monochrome captor so maybe Bokeh will come in a software update?! I want that too.
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I just noticed that Bokeh is available in Redmi Pro when using Stereo mode. How Xiaomi fixes this for Mi5s plus.

EMJI79 said:
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No not exactly. I wasn't referring to actually talk about Meizu Pro 6 device but as others have been talking about DOF bokeh etc. I just wanted to point people at checking how they've done it on the Pro 6 device. The DOF seems to be so very good that you'd feel you've got a DSLR with f2.0 lens. At least it seems so impressive. I'm not sure about bokeh in such situation. Wehther they've simulated round diaphragm or any other shape. I suppose a completely round one would be the simplest and would also look best and most professional as more expensive pro lenses use diphragms with many more blades than cheap ones (5 or 6). And these become apparent in bokeh situation.

literadesign said:
No not exactly. I wasn't referring to actually talk about Meizu Pro 6 device but as others have been talking about DOF bokeh etc. I just wanted to point people at checking how they've done it on the Pro 6 device. The DOF seems to be so very good that you'd feel you've got a DSLR with f2.0 lens. At least it seems so impressive. I'm not sure about bokeh in such situation. Wehther they've simulated round diaphragm or any other shape. I suppose a completely round one would be the simplest and would also look best and most professional as more expensive pro lenses use diphragms with many more blades than cheap ones (5 or 6). And these become apparent in bokeh situation.
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You're playing with words

EMJI79 said:
You're playing with words
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? Really? Which sentence exactly seems to be a play of words? I surely didn't intend to do so. I don't own a Meizu device. Eagerly waiting for my Mi 5S though.

5T features ported??

Hi All,
It seems that the 5T has a low light shooting preference over telephoto and facial unlock.
Although the latter is not something I'd ever use, I was thinking would it be possible for the camera's on the 5 to use the low light functionality of the 5T? I've read that they're similar?
If not, it's not the end of the world, I've took some great pics with my 1+ but if I could improve low light then it'd be a bonus.

I believe the 5T has a different camera sensor.
If that's the case, it won't be portable unless you change the camera altogether.

The primary camera is the same, the difference is on the second camera. Now its nos a zoom len, it will work for low Light shoots because the sensor has a different aperture.
The 5 has de 1.6x len zoom, now on the 5T, all the zoom is digital
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Actually I think OP5 is doing the same thing (obviously with different second camera sensor) test yourself: open camera app, cover the main camera and obviously you will see just black, here is the weird thing: change to "zoom" (2x), cover the second camera (supposed zoom lens) you'll still have image then cover the main camera boom no image! So for 2x is just a digital zoom (a good one) from the main camera, and the second camera is just used for portrait mode effect

I think this is only in low light condition. Try this again in good light and it would work as expected

google cam with HDR+ will give you better low light shots
i took a picture of the night sky the other day and it actually turned out a beautiful picture. very surprised how well it judged exposure time.

We need to wait OxygenOS 4.7 to discover how many new features will arrive also in our OnePlus 5.

WaxysDargle said:
google cam with HDR+ will give you better low light shots
i took a picture of the night sky the other day and it actually turned out a beautiful picture. very surprised how well it judged exposure time.
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Focus on Google cam never works for me I've missed countless shots putting my faith in that
For the most part Google's Camera is awful.

Rhoban said:
I believe the 5T has a different camera sensor.
If that's the case, it won't be portable unless you change the camera altogether.
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Yep that's what I wrote mate.
Telephoto Vs low light I know they're different.. I'm wondering if the software can be forced to work with what we have?

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We need to wait OxygenOS 4.7 to discover how many new features will arrive also in our OnePlus 5.
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?? Oreo had nothing to do with what I've asked.?
I only need to know if the camera choice!! Low light over zoom can be transferred. In all honesty the second camera never works. Cover it an nothing happens.

In low light the second camera doesn't work, and it's better that way. With an f/2.6 aperture, it just wouldn't allow enough light in to the tiny sensor to be useful. This would be true even with the pixel binning technique the 5T uses for its secondary camera.
It's also entirely possible that there's hardware involved for that feature to work properly too.
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DorianX said:
Actually I think OP5 is doing the same thing (obviously with different second camera sensor) test yourself: open camera app, cover the main camera and obviously you will see just black, here is the weird thing: change to "zoom" (2x), cover the second camera (supposed zoom lens) you'll still have image then cover the main camera boom no image! So for 2x is just a digital zoom (a good one) from the main camera, and the second camera is just used for portrait mode effect
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Unbelievable bull crap from a senior member. This untrue.
Second lens activates in good looking lighting automatically, you covered the lens manually so it thinks it's dark and it will take the picture with main lens.
Best way to test is to test outside, I can visually see, how it's jumping from one lens to another when zooming. Also you can see whether it used the second lens from the photo details.

You don't need to be rude dude... Yes I'm senior member but I'm not a God that know how everything works, I just did that test and see that results, didn't know how this dual camera works. So I researched a bit and found what you said. My bad
Here's a video to understand how this dual camera works
Cheers

TheGripper said:
Unbelievable bull crap from a senior member. This untrue.
Second lens activates in good looking lighting automatically, you covered the lens manually so it thinks it's dark and it will take the picture with main lens.
Best way to test is to test outside, I can visually see, how it's jumping from one lens to another when zooming. Also you can see whether it used the second lens from the photo details.
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dladz said:
Yep that's what I wrote mate.
Telephoto Vs low light I know they're different.. I'm wondering if the software can be forced to work with what we have?
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Not likely since you have to have a lower aperture (1.7 or so) a Tele lens aperture is usually higher and allows less light to reach the sensor. With this, it is highly unlikely to have a software update that will allow the 5 to reproduce the 5T's low light photo quality.

Eric214 said:
Not likely since you have to have a lower aperture (1.7 or so) a Tele lens aperture is usually higher and allows less light to reach the sensor. With this, it is highly unlikely to have a software update that will allow the 5 to reproduce the 5T's low light photo quality.
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Cheers mate.
Thought I'd ask..nvm

dladz said:
?? Oreo had nothing to do with what I've asked.?
I only need to know if the camera choice!! Low light over zoom can be transferred. In all honesty the second camera never works. Cover it an nothing happens.
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OxygenOS 4.7 is not Oreo, is the default ROM installed in OnePlus 5T (OnePlus 5 has OxygenOS 4.5)

-PaRRoT- said:
OxygenOS 4.7 is not Oreo, is the default ROM installed in OnePlus 5T (OnePlus 5 has OxygenOS 4.5)
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I haven't said that the 5T does have Oreo ? Where are you getting your information ?

dladz said:
I haven't said that the 5T does have Oreo ? Where are you getting your information ?
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You wrote replying me about OxygenOS 4.7:
?? Oreo had nothing to do with what I've asked.?
If you don't remember what you wrote is not my problem.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the OnePlus 7 Pro come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Coming from Pixel 3 XL.. I know the P3 is the best camera around but... WOW the OP7 pro has a really bad camera. Pictures are out of focus, portrait mode sucks, I tried the GCam mod still horrible photo quality.

vwgti18 said:
Coming from Pixel 3 XL.. I know the P3 is the best camera around but... WOW the OP7 pro has a really bad camera. Pictures are out of focus, portrait mode sucks, I tried the GCam mod still horrible photo quality.
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DxO Mark gave it a good score. Either the software update OnePlus gave them to test is going to be amazing or DxO is a little biased

klym.software said:
DxO Mark gave it a good score. Either the software update OnePlus gave them to test is going to be amazing or DxO is a little biased
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Yeah which is one reason I gave this phone a shot. But there is not way this camera like this scored a 111 lol that's a joke!

vwgti18 said:
Coming from Pixel 3 XL.. I know the P3 is the best camera around but... WOW the OP7 pro has a really bad camera. Pictures are out of focus, portrait mode sucks, I tried the GCam mod still horrible photo quality.
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Welcome to oneplus

DxO Mark is a joke. ????

Yeah you dont buy this phone for the camera. You buy it for the performance.
Maybe gcam will make it better over time or a software update but if camera is your number 1 need then this isnt the phone for you.
Oneplus should have ditched the three rear camera system and gone with a single great camera. They need to go back and perfect the fundamentals.
It's a missed opportunity from Oneplus.

vwgti18 said:
Coming from Pixel 3 XL.. I know the P3 is the best camera around but... WOW the OP7 pro has a really bad camera. Pictures are out of focus, portrait mode sucks, I tried the GCam mod still horrible photo quality.
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Do you have any sample pictures you took? Most reviews i saw didn't mention the camera being as bad as you claim.

Photo 1 OP7
Photo 2 Pixel 3 XL

Sorry this is the pixel.

vwgti18 said:
Photo 1 OP7
Photo 2 Pixel 3 XL
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Sorry this is the pixel.
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First,
Thank you for both pictures, you've easily made your point. That overexposure is pretty killer.
Second, what kind of VW do you have?
EDIT: Saw the GTI on the steering wheel. That overexposure distracted me too much to notice lol.

I'm really hoping their software improves. Can you guess which camera app I'm using on my OP7? Hint: one of them is Gcam with nightsight and the other is stock cam app.

GlitchMob said:
I'm really hoping their software improves. Can you guess which camera app I'm using on my OP7? Hint: one of them is Gcam with nightsight and the other is stock cam app.
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Guess? That's like asking which one is black and which one is red. I hope it improves, BUT I'm happy for the GCam port and its capabilities.

GlitchMob said:
I'm really hoping their software improves. Can you guess which camera app I'm using on my OP7? Hint: one of them is Gcam with nightsight and the other is stock cam app.
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Can you post one with the nightmode on the op7 and with the gcam nightsight? Or was that really the op7 night mode on the right? If yes, then holy moly that's bad. I hoped they would be on par with last year's Huawei p20 pro, but I guess that's too much to ask for

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DxO Mark gave it a good score. Either the software update OnePlus gave them to test is going to be amazing or DxO is a little biased
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Looks like DxOMark was using a software release that isn't public yet and is supposed to be released later in the month
https://www.dxomark.com/oneplus-7-pro-camera-review/

OnePlus should of waited to release this phone when the camera is updated.

Please note: The camera firmware used for the DxOMark tests is not yet currently available to consumers. OnePlus will make it available as an over-the-air update before the end of the month.
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so basically, the OP7Pro on DXOMARK is different than the ones everyone is using, until the software is released we cant really discuss the camera since DXO mark showed over-exposure was more pronounced on the S10+
so i expect that VW picture where the OP7 blew out the exposure would atleast be fixed.

FWIW, Oneplus representative denied DXO on that on their latest AMA.

paysen said:
Can you post one with the nightmode on the op7 and with the gcam nightsight? Or was that really the op7 night mode on the right? If yes, then holy moly that's bad. I hoped they would be on par with last year's Huawei p20 pro, but I guess that's too much to ask for
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Lol it was nightmode for OP7 cam app and nightsight with GCam app. I'm just waiting for someone to release a fully functioning ported version of gcam for OP7.
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Can you post one with the nightmode on the op7 and with the gcam nightsight? Or was that really the op7 night mode on the right? If yes, then holy moly that's bad. I hoped they would be on par with last year's Huawei p20 pro, but I guess that's too much to ask for
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AarSyl said:
Guess? That's like asking which one is black and which one is red. I hope it improves, BUT I'm happy for the GCam port and its capabilities.
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GlitchMob said:
Lol it was nightmode for OP7 cam app and nightsight with GCam app. I'm just waiting for someone to release a fully functioning ported version of gcam for OP7.
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You are joking right? Seriously, it is that bad. I legit thought this is a Pic taken in the auto mode.
Well they might fix it with the next update. Wasn't it supposed to drop anytime soon?

Gcam for snapdragon S10+

Where can I find google camera apk that works for the S10 plus . If anyone can direct me in the right direction would be very appreciated

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Where can I find google camera apk that works for the S10 plus . If anyone can direct me in the right direction would be very appreciated
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/themes/pixel-camera-mod-t3906205

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https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/themes/pixel-camera-mod-t3906205
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Thank you

This one works the best for me. Least problems with the most working.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=11dUCrBRu5Ncvpkm8vSvqZI3XpmENFSpO

I know people love Gcam but unless you have an old phone or a phone where the built in camera app is poorly coded (ie any phone by OnePlus) then the native camera app will take better pictures than the ported Gcam app because the native camera app is coded specifically for the hardware and firmware.
When I had the Mate 20 Pro and P20 Pro some people still wanted to use Gcam which is insane since both take better pictures than Pixel phones out of the box and they also have much more powerful camera hardware than Pixel phones are equipped with.
The S10+ doesn't take better pictures than Pixel phones but it does have a capable native camera app optimized for the hardware.
If you really want to take better pictures you need to buy a better camera phone. The S10 series has the same camera sensor Samsung has been using since the S7 series. It's not going to turn into a great camera phone no matter what app you use.

jhs39 said:
I know people love Gcam but unless you have an old phone or a phone where the built in camera app is poorly coded (ie any phone by OnePlus) then the native camera app will take better pictures than the ported Gcam app because the native camera app is coded specifically for the hardware and firmware.
When I had the Mate 20 Pro and P20 Pro some people still wanted to use Gcam which is insane since both take better pictures than Pixel phones out of the box and they also have much more powerful camera hardware than Pixel phones are equipped with.
The S10+ doesn't take better pictures than Pixel phones but it does have a capable native camera app optimized for the hardware.
If you really want to take better pictures you need to buy a better camera phone. The S10 series has the same camera sensor Samsung has been using since the S7 series. It's not going to turn into a great camera phone no matter what app you use.
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I disagree.
I say this as a s10 plus owner. Gcam provides a huge boost in image quality. I've taken many photos, plants, people, clothes, and nearly always, the gcam produces photos with much better detail and sharpness.
I don't want to buy a Google or iPhone, I like Samsung phones. The only major issue is the camera software, not hardware. Thanks to gcam, I now have a great camera set up and hundreds of thousands would agree across the world.

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I disagree.
I say this as a s10 plus owner. Gcam provides a huge boost in image quality. I've taken many photos, plants, people, clothes, and nearly always, the gcam produces photos with much better detail and sharpness.
I don't want to buy a Google or iPhone, I like Samsung phones. The only major issue is the camera software, not hardware. Thanks to gcam, I now have a great camera set up and hundreds of thousands would agree across the world.
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I also disagree. There is a noticeable difference in the level of fidelity of photos when zooming in on gcam photo versus a stock samsung cam photo. The samsung cam even after turning down the post processing effects to zero still have some splotchieness to them where as gcam photos do not. This is noticeable not only on my S10+ but also on my 32 inch 4k monitor where I do photo editing.
Also, the portrait mode on the gcam is far superior than sumsungs live focus mode.

jpcdeux said:
This one works the best for me. Least problems with the most working.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=11dUCrBRu5Ncvpkm8vSvqZI3XpmENFSpO
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Are you able to reupload it? That link doesn't work anymore.

I really want a fully working exynos port

Gcam?

Just wondering if there is a version of gcam that can be installed? And where do you check for development and updates these days? Had a Pixel for so long I've no idea where to go!!

https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/
considering the fact that the 8 Pro is one of the two phones in the world that uses the IMX 689 sensor, it'll take some time for developers to make a proper port for this phone.

Any luck?

I'm using GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v1.7-fix.apk from https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-urnyx05/#apk1475 and it works well so far.

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I'm using GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v1.7-fix.apk from https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-urnyx05/#apk1475 and it works well so far.
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I can't get the other cameras to work, they just crash the app after you enable and select.

Mr Paul said:
I can't get the other cameras to work, they just crash the app after you enable and select.
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You mean the telephoto & wide ?

Mr Paul said:
I can't get the other cameras to work, they just crash the app after you enable and select.
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Yep, This version of GCAM cannot support the UltraWide and Tele cam yet.

says it need root access to work..

That means I have no luck using ultrawide and tele lens with GCAM apps...
Use stock apps instead

Indeeed

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I really hope we will see a stable version of GCam working with all Oneplus 8 Pro cameras.
I personally think there is a lot of potential in that IMX 689 sensor.
I am still thinking there should be some real use of this strange photochrom camera as well.
And may be a nice manual PRO VIDEO mode as well :fingers-crossed:
Most probably I will get the Filmic Pro anyway soon.

I only just installed GCam yesterday after reading this thread .. lol.
So far played with the different modes (not lenses/cameras) but the night mode seems really good. The downside (if I can call it that), is that it appears that Gcams ability to take HDR photos vs stock app's ability, Gcam's takes much longer to process before storing? Like as you take the shot, there is noticeable processing time, vs. the stock app which seems to effectively point-shoot-store fairly quickly.

happiboi said:
I only just installed GCam yesterday after reading this thread .. lol.
So far played with the different modes (not lenses/cameras) but the night mode seems really good. The downside (if I can call it that), is that it appears that Gcams ability to take HDR photos vs stock app's ability, Gcam's takes much longer to process before storing? Like as you take the shot, there is noticeable processing time, vs. the stock app which seems to effectively point-shoot-store fairly quickly.
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I used to have GCAM on my OnePlus 6 before and yes, the GCAM HDR takes much longer than the stock HDR but the quality is faaaaaaar better on GCAM so the processing time has whatever reason but it's definitely worth it

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... Gcam's takes much longer to process before storing? Like as you take the shot, there is noticeable processing time, vs. the stock app which seems to effectively point-shoot-store fairly quickly.
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I used to have GCAM on my OnePlus 6 before and yes, the GCAM HDR takes much longer than the stock HDR but the quality is faaaaaaar better on GCAM so the processing time has whatever reason but it's definitely worth it
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GCam has a different algorithm which processes many frames. In Pixel devices, there is a dedicated chip (pixel visual core) which performs the necessary computations. In other devices, it is the main processor that has to do all the job

I played around with the GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v1.8, which delivers nice results. but I noticed that the maximum resolution is 4000x3000. the stock camera goes up to 8000x6000. is there a way to activate the full resolution? in the settings it is already set to full resolution.
other than that, can anyone recommend any of the configs for this gcam? https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/configs-urnyx-02/

How does the night mode compare to the pixel 4? I imagine it would be better because of the larger sensor