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Hey there.I am really interested in thid brand.I,d really like to have one.But I dont know much abouy its price.plz help me.and also i want to know about the life of its battery.Is it cool?or like diamond?
what diamond not good ?
The HD is sold at around 650 Euro in Belgium I heard.
+ 1000 USD - approx 28-29.000 Taiwan Dollar - 7.500 Hong Kong Dollar.
Not taken in account conversion rate but price index of last HTC devices sold around here in Asia.
You can see loads of info related to Prices, locations, release dates etc in the BlackStone vendor wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Vendors
If anyone knows more dates and prices say it here
the life of its bbattery is not very good.it dies as soon as possible.and also the body of the cellphone gets dirty soon.
tanx 4 your replies all.keep smiling
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the life of its bbattery is not very good.it dies as soon as possible.and also the body if he cellphone gets dirty soon.
tanx 4 your replies all
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It seems odd that you would say this while like nobody on the planet owns a final version yet. Second, neither the casing nor the battery are equal to that of the Diamond.
Differences: Diamond has a 900MAh battery and the HD has 1350MAh which is equal to that of the Raphael. This gives you 50% more power and according to the specifications this indeed results in the added 50% which I almost agree with. Almost being that the processor and radios are the same as on the Diamond so should consume the same amount of power and that would make 50% increase accurate. However the screen is so much bigger that I doubt it, I expect nothing more than an increase of 35% - 40% and still that's welcome.
Now that my Diamond is configured properly and has the latest software, battery consumption is much lighter and I can easily last a day and a half with it, using regular mailing, some internet and some calling. When only calling, it lasts me two days. Turning it off during the night ups it to three days. A 50% bigger battery would make it last over 4 days in that manner, let's say 2.5 at heavier usage.
Second difference is the back of the unit, which is mostly matte and not glossy, making it much less fingerprint prone (only the front side needs to be polished all the time lol). IPhone and many other touch phones get dirty just as easily. What do you prefer? A matte screen would look worse and scratch much easier because it has a texture.
Looks like avg pricing in the Netherlands will be around 570 euros, which is nice Somehow the Raphael sells for over 600 everywhere in the NL...
In Mexico it will cost $1,400US!!!!!! and it will arrive till next year........
I am sure not buying here.......I asked a friend travelling to London to bring me one cheaper.
If only HD can have a keyboard!!!!
$1400 us?! wow... Tough bargain I just updated the Centralpoint release date as it keeps being pushed (29 oct now contrary to the 21 oct initially), probably to trick people into preordering from them. I guess they won't ship before the first week of November either, like the other NL shops.
Is there any seller in Usa for this phone
thxs
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Is there any seller in Usa for this phone
thxs
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Check here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Vendors
the blackstone is at 649,96 € on this french website : rueducommerce.fr/
it's not so expansive when you compare to the price of Xperia (780€)
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If only HD can have a keyboard!!!!
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just what I thought, this device is absolutely perfect, will be the next Kaiser / Polaris (I think in terms of popularity they´re comparable).
If HTC just released a keyboard version as well...although, there´s the Touch Pro. And imagine, Touch Pro even bigger and heavier, wouldn´t even fit into my pockets *loool*
In Germany it will cost 619,- euros on Amazon.de
http://www.amazon.de/HTC-Blackstone...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1223587885&sr=8-1
I sent my Touch Pro back, if I get my money back I will buy this one
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just what I thought, this device is absolutely perfect, will be the next Kaiser / Polaris (I think in terms of popularity they´re comparable).
If HTC just released a keyboard version as well...although, there´s the Touch Pro. And imagine, Touch Pro even bigger and heavier, wouldn´t even fit into my pockets *loool*
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hahaha LOL
For me using a beautifull/solid/big brick Universal won`t be a problem!
Hope HD w/key can be a reality!
P.d. By the way, Uni fit on my back pocket
I got a Diamond and on that I could really like a keyboard, the additional RAM/SD card slot/etcetera but I liked the Diamond form factor so much I went for that. The Diamond however is very small and as such typing on a keyboard is much easier than on the screen.
The HD however, sports such a huge screen that there is much less need for a keyboard. Also, I think the target audience of the HD really differs from that of the Pro, it is much more iPhone-esque than it is a corporate tool.
for the last few weeks I've just been planning on getting it here: http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php?xProd=1464
£466.98 with US shipping (and tax) included.
what do you guys reckon this is in USD?
i gotta be honest tho, with a device:
being this fast,
having such a large screen,
having such a sharp screen, and
having such a sensitive screen....
so long as I keep using the skin htctoucher and i created for pcmk....i think I can honestly say that I will never even miss a hardware kb for a second.
I had a mogul for a while, then went to vogue (slow, unsensitive, small screen), and i only rarely wish i had a hardware keyboard...
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for the last few weeks I've just been planning on getting it here: http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php?xProd=1464
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have you or anyone had experience importing RF devices into the states? I know the customs/FCC are very strict on importing such devices. I read somewhere someone (importer or exporter) need to declare the FCC ID on the form, if not the devices gets confiscated (that is, not returned to the sender). I am looking to import touch HD, but don't want to lose 800+ dollars.
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have you or anyone had experience importing RF devices into the states? I know the customs/FCC are very strict on importing such devices. I read somewhere someone (importer or exporter) need to declare the FCC ID on the form, if not the devices gets confiscated (that is, not returned to the sender). I am looking to import touch HD, but don't want to lose 800+ dollars.
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hmmm no i personally have not looked into that, but I guess I will be before putting my order in! thx for the heads up
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have you or anyone had experience importing RF devices into the states? I know the customs/FCC are very strict on importing such devices. I read somewhere someone (importer or exporter) need to declare the FCC ID on the form, if not the devices gets confiscated (that is, not returned to the sender). I am looking to import touch HD, but don't want to lose 800+ dollars.
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The best way to do that is asking a friend travelling to bring it for you, that way you don´t pay any cent.
Importing I´m sure depends of the qty. of devices you bring, if it´s only one, taxes won´t be that much. And US customs have a trusty/esay way of doing things.
I'm looking into a new phone but I'm just not sure if I should get the Find 5 or One. The camera is not a deciding factor for me, battery would mean more. If I read right the Find 5 has a bigger battery, can I assume that means the Oppa also have better battery life?
My second sticking point is, are there any rumors for when 4.2.2 will be released for it?
Third is how is the support for T-Mobile HSPA+ and LTE?
I should go for the HTC One, BTW it will be better supported!
well i guess in the end its all about the price. the find 5 is way more reasonable, at least in europe
the battery might be bigger on the oppo but i think there are some issues with the battery management. thats just what i read in other threads and on the oppo forums - please correct me if im wrong...
i dont have my find 5 yet, but ordered one yesterday. i was unsure between those two as well, but eventually ordered the black find 5 since it will still take some time until the black htc One is on sale.
so if the oppo doesnt work for me i will sell it and get the me the htc one...
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well i guess in the end its all about the price. the find 5 is way more reasonable, at least in europe
the battery might be bigger on the oppo but i think there are some issues with the battery management. thats just what i read in other threads and on the oppo forums - please correct me if im wrong...
i dont have my find 5 yet, but ordered one yesterday. i was unsure between those two as well, but eventually ordered the black find 5 since it will still take some time until the black htc One is on sale.
so if the oppo doesnt work for me i will sell it and get the me the htc one...
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Where did you buy Oppo find 5 in Europe? The only one I found in Europe is on amazon.co.uk and it costs 400£ . Did you manage to find it any cheaper ?
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Where did you buy Oppo find 5 in Europe? The only one I found in Europe is on amazon.co.uk and it costs 400£ . Did you manage to find it any cheaper ?
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on their homepage oppostyle com the 32gb version for 569$ - they ship for free!! (express it says )
Did you have to pay customs etc? (it's shipped from Asia) Cause as far as I know that would add in excess of 20% (of value) to the phone price... And then it simply would not be worth the hassle with customs etc
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Did you have to pay customs etc? (it's shipped from Asia) Cause as far as I know that would add in excess of 20% (of value) to the phone price... And then it simply would not be worth the hassle with customs etc
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yes your right maybe its not worth it when extra fees are added...but sometimes you have to pay them and sometimes it just gets through without any extra costs.
i ordered mine two days ago so i hope i don't have to pay custom duties... but even with the 20% added its still about 50€ cheaper than the htc
- not that much but i was just curious and needed a phone...
aliexpress
You can buy Find 5 on Aliexpress for only 530$ btw
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You can buy Find 5 on Aliexpress for only 530$ btw
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Don't recommend Ali
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Hi Knitler,
In my opinion, the main drawback of the find 5 is its fragility.
The back side of the phone, despite it is very stylish and uncommon (but certainly not as much as the Htc one <3 ), has a very soft plastic.
I owned it since a few weeks and one thing I can say is i'm always trying to be careful on where I place it and how it stands on a desk.
Dust easily scratches the rear side of my poor Oppo and loves lodging into them, especially on the white model
And what is most frustrating than handling the Oppo like it would be a jewel !? Damn, it's just a phone !!
(so if you hesitate, chose the black one )
Otherwise, this smartphone is just a killer plaything
Regarding the battery side, I'm not shure a few milliamps would make the difference on a whole day. In both cases, you would have to charge it every day.
Another interesting point mentionned by brakke97, I believe the One will have a better support.
But, chose the HTC and you will have Mr Everyone's phone
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Hi Knitler,
In my opinion, the main drawback of the find 5 is its fragility.
The back side of the phone, despite it is very stylish and uncommon (but certainly not as much as the Htc one <3 ), has a very soft plastic.
I owned it since a few weeks and one thing I can say is i'm always trying to be careful on where I place it and how it stands on a desk.
Dust easily scratches the rear side of my poor Oppo and loves lodging into them, especially on the white model
And what is most frustrating than handling the Oppo like it would be a jewel !? Damn, it's just a phone !!
(so if you hesitate, chose the black one )
Otherwise, this smartphone is just a killer plaything
Regarding the battery side, I'm not shure a few milliamps would make the difference on a whole day. In both cases, you would have to charge it every day.
Another interesting point mentionned by brakke97, I believe the One will have a better support.
But, chose the HTC and you will have Mr Everyone's phone
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It's not fragile at all, it's very well built. Soft plastic does NOT make a phone fragile, it makes it impact resistant!
I hate how people constantly ignorantly bash plastic as a build material. Properly engineered plastics (as found in Samsungs and the Oppo) are more impact resistant and durable than any other material available for a phone. I speak this from experience - I would be blind in one eye if not for polycarbonate plastic's impact resistance.
I'd say find 5 if your on a budget,and HTC's aren't the best choice if battery life is a concern...
I would choose Oppo find 5. There are many updates from Oppo and the phone is fantastic.
I am sure HTC one will have great support, but what about the locked bootloader? You will lose warranty as soon as you unlock it. So think twice before you choose a phone. Oppo is budget phone while HTC is costlier one. I think we should encourage Oppo so that they will release much more devices in the future.
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To be honest I don't see how the price makes any difference here:
HTC One price 32gb (sim unlocked, bootloader locked )- 575$
64gb (sim and bootloader unlocked) - 650$
Oppo Find 5 16gb -500$ (but you can't really compare to any of the above due to storage)
32gb- 569$
So from what I can see the price difference is 6$ when comparing the 32gb units.
Now depending on where you live you might be able to get the Oppo Find 5 in your country or will need to get it shipped from Hong Kong as in the case of most of the world (including Europe) so you risk getting charged VAT (20% of value) and custom charges. In that case Oppo becomes significantly more expensive.
If you do live in the USA however then the decision between the two devices comes to personal preference. Both are great devices but do bare in mind that HTC One has the following advantages:
+Faster processor
+Higher Pixel density
+Aluminum unibody
+Possibly better developer support as most people will own the device (but you would have to buy the developer's edition to take full advantage of that)
As of now there are also other great devices on the market from China that might be worth considering as well such as Huawei Ascend D2. Alternatively you also have Xperia Z (which I currently own) and Samsung Galaxy s4.
To be honest I really wanted to buy the Oppo Find 5 here in Europe but due to lack of availability and the high import cost I have decided to choose something different. Buying a phone from Asia also will come with problems when servicing and looking for spare parts or accessories.
So summing up I don' t see the reason why anyone would opt for Oppo other than wanting to be unique. Don't get me wrong it is a great device indeed but it is just not competitive enough in the market right now. I wish that Oppo have released the device a lot sooner as I have been reading about since October 2012.
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As of now there are also other great devices on the market from China that might be worth considering as well such as Huawei Ascend D2. Alternatively you also have Xperia Z (which I currently own) and Samsung Galaxy s4.
To be honest I really wanted to buy the Oppo Find 5 here in Europe but due to lack of availability and the high import cost I have decided to choose something different. Buying a phone from Asia also will come with problems when servicing and looking for spare parts or accessories.
So summing up I don' t see the reason why anyone would opt for Oppo other than wanting to be unique. Don't get me wrong it is a great device indeed but it is just not competitive enough in the market right now. I wish that Oppo have released the device a lot sooner as I have been reading about since October 2012.
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Got a chance to look at the Xperia ZL and HTC One (Xperia Z isn't available in the US Sony Store unfortunately)
Xperia ZL - don't know which version of the display I was looking at, but viewing angles are definitely inferior to the Oppo (washed out when you don't look straight into the display). It is smaller (basically size of Oppo minus the bottom white non-screen portion)
HTC one - display similar to Oppo, lighter, feels just as good build-quality wise
I just dislike HTC enough (from previous device Amaze 4G, and the craptastic Sense) to not buy phones from them anymore
battery life for Find5 - people say the CM10.1 experimental has way better battery life...
If I had to choose between the Find 5 and HTC One (with a fully working CM10.1 build on both), it's hard to decide... but now, Sense is enough to say no for me
I personally wanted a 5" screen as being 6'3 I have big hands. It is a fact that the viewing angles are not great. The screen does offer beautiful color reproduction though and Sony offers great developer support which the owners can benefit from. There is a few bugs that are still present that I hope that will be resolved with the update.
Coming back to Oppo 5, as I said it is a great device but due to lack of access to it/ price I went for Xperia Z. So far I am super happy with the phone but I like to try out new devices and would love to get my hands on HTC ONE 64GB Developer Edition. It's a shame it's only available in the US. ( the price is kinda steep though :-/ and I personally don't care about Boom Sound or Zoe) I have seen pictures of the aluminum unibody scratching easily as well ( but that could be the paid of Sammy fans...LOL) but I carry my phone in a hard case anyways.
Long story short if I were to buy a phone in the US I would for sure go for HTC ONE DE. Because I live in Europe I think that the Xperia Z is one of the best options here. You can also find it for much cheaper than HTC ONE as it has been out for a while already ( and you get water resistance, a camera which allows you to zoom in (ekhm... HTC one 4mp) and an sd slot (rare these days)
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To be honest I don't see how the price makes any difference here:
HTC One price 32gb (sim unlocked, bootloader locked )- 575$
64gb (sim and bootloader unlocked) - 650$
Oppo Find 5 16gb -500$ (but you can't really compare to any of the above due to storage)
32gb- 569$
So from what I can see the price difference is 6$ when comparing the 32gb units.
Now depending on where you live you might be able to get the Oppo Find 5 in your country or will need to get it shipped from Hong Kong as in the case of most of the world (including Europe) so you risk getting charged VAT (20% of value) and custom charges. In that case Oppo becomes significantly more expensive.
To be honest I really wanted to buy the Oppo Find 5 here in Europe but due to lack of availability and the high import cost I have decided to choose something different. Buying a phone from Asia also will come with problems when servicing and looking for spare parts or accessories.
So summing up I don' t see the reason why anyone would opt for Oppo other than wanting to be unique. Don't get me wrong it is a great device indeed but it is just not competitive enough in the market right now. I wish that Oppo have released the device a lot sooner as I have been reading about since October 2012.
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well 6$ difference is not correct. i did some reading and apparently oppo declares their packages as 150$ value. so you will have to pay about 30$ vat depending on where you live in europe.
so i paid 449€ paying with paypal, plus 23€ duty, means a total of 472€.
compared to the 599€ of the same sized Htc One.
just saying....
and at the moment the availability of the oppo is way better - in Austria at least.
but of course importing phone from asia from a "small" company can cause some problems and might be a bit risky
Without a doubt HTC one
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once cyanogenmod 10.1 getting better on Find 5, I think it is more valuable to get a Find 5 than HTC one
I think i have my my decision on getting the Iconbit Callisto 100 smart watch.
(Although the iconbit callisto 300 has nicer features its still nowhere to be found to buy. )
I also looked at the i'm watch but its price is absurd. although it looks cool.
The iconbit callisto 100 has nice features and they say it can last 3+ days!
now for my question.
if i pair it with my note 3 via bluetooth, is it possible to receive notifications on the watch? keep in my that these both are considered full fledged android devices.
I was thinking about tablet notifier... but is there anything better / else?
That's just a Chinese OEM watch. Same watch as the Omate. Available for relatively cheap on Alibaba.
And yeah, you'd have to use an app like Tablet Notifier. Or this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2740033
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That's just a Chinese OEM watch. Same watch as the Omate. Available for relatively cheap on Alibaba.
And yeah, you'd have to use an app like Tablet Notifier. Or this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2740033
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color me confused.
the callisto is russian not chinese.
also, the callisto according to videos i found on youtube lasts between 3-4 days with actual use.
the omate isnt even available. pre-ordering the thing right now before the 30th and then waiting 45+ days!
furthermore. i cant even find the callisto on alibaba or aliexpress. i ordered mine from amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Iconbit-Calli...8&qid=1401001938&sr=8-1&keywords=callisto+100
i hope i didnt make a mistake ordering this thing ... pls correct me if iam wrong.
The Callisto is a rebranded Chinese watch.
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/China-Cheapest-Waterproof-3g-Android4-2_1818847755.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2014-new-product-android-watch-phone_1738176642.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Android-watch-phone-3G-android-smart_1502318423.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/1-54-Inch-Capacitive-Touch-Screen_1729410989.html
All are essentially the same watch with a slightly different packaging. Iconbit even uses the last link's advertising material to advertise their watch. The Omate watch is the same thing, just a rebranded Chinese watch. They all claim between 3-4 days of use (75 hours).
There's another one called Z8 for $150 check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743915
Its the 512MB RAM 4GB model. Its been purchased and tested by a user, in fact it has some advantages over the omate.
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color me confused.
the callisto is russian not chinese.
also, the callisto according to videos i found on youtube lasts between 3-4 days with actual use.
the omate isnt even available. pre-ordering the thing right now before the 30th and then waiting 45+ days!
furthermore. i cant even find the callisto on alibaba or aliexpress. i ordered mine from amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Iconbit-Calli...8&qid=1401001938&sr=8-1&keywords=callisto+100
i hope i didnt make a mistake ordering this thing ... pls correct me if iam wrong.
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All smartwatches Are chinese, omate, callisto, aw-414, zgpax, inwatch...trademark is russian, but watch is chinese, simvalley aw-414 is german, but watch is chinese too, like canadian? omate.
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There's another one called Z8 for $150 check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2743915
Its the 512MB RAM 4GB model. Its been purchased and tested by a user, in fact it has some advantages over the omate.
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This is the best choose! Cheaper and good.
Hey guys, I just made this video. tell me what you think, I know theres a few rough edges, but im trying to be more professional on my videos.
Heres the text if you dont want to watch it
International
Hey guys and welcome back to another video, here in my hands are 2 oneplus
one smart phones, like i said in my unboxing video one of them is a chinese
version and the other is an international version, so what exactly are the
differences? lets find out
So i'd just like to start off and say that spec wise you get exactly the
same in both. which includes the 5.5" 1080p display, snapdragon 801 processor
clocked at 2.5ghz, 3gb of ram and so on
the differences are minor, so lets start off with the OS.
The intertnational version comes with Cyanogenmod 11S, which is specificly
made for the phone while the Chinese version comes with the very chinese
Colour OS. which doesnt inculde the google play store any google apps. this
is very easy to change thkkough, installing CM11S onto the chhinese OPO is as
easy as flashing any other stock rom on a phone.
Turning it around we see that the 16gb chinese OPO has the white back,
which is what the international 16gb version has as well, the only difference
being is that the chinese OPO doesnt have the cyanogen logo on the back
because of like i just mentioned it comes with Colour OS.
Now inside the phone is where its a little different, the two phones come with
different bands for your 3G/4G. ive done tests and both 3G and 4G work here in
the UK on either EE or Three networks, if your on o2 or vodafone youll have to stick with 3G
If you're in america, 3G/4G works fine in america if your using the internationa model but
only 3G works with the chinese version.theres also a few threads on XDA where theyve managed
to unlock a few other bands to work as well, which ill leave under the like button.
thats all guys, theres only a few differences so if you havent got an invite
but you want one now then by all means go
for the chinese version. if you wanna know where to buy one without an invite,
thats coming in the next video.
if you liked this video then sunscribe so youll be able to see when i release a new video,
Is nobody interested
J
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I was interested and gave you thx;p i am using chinese version and it works perfectly in Europe thx for your time
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Bought a silk white chinese version, the box said it's 64gb but AFAIK it only come in 16gb.
I am finally clear about that, thanks.
hi i have just stumbled across this forum, and it looks a very good set out, i am receiving my samsung galaxy note 3 tommorow and i am looking for a really good smartwatch to go with this, but my budget is tight at moment, so looking for good advice please on which 1 to get, it has to have full android on as then i have heard you can put as many apps as you want, so please some good suggestions on which 1 to purchase and where to purchase from would help me out a lot thanks
You say your budget is tight, then brand smart watch should not be considered.
One I know is i95 smart watch, $84 in tinydeal, with 512MB 4GB storage, can download many app to have fun
I have bought one and hope it work well.
moto I think !
thanks guys, u say moto one of you, where is link for the moto one please
The moto 360 is a very good wearable. The first gen model is very cheap nowadays, but the second gen is here too if you're on a bigger budget.
If you want something basic, there's the GT08 for about 40USD, its pretty good for the price, but its very basic.
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If you want something basic, there's the GT08 for about 40USD, its pretty good for the price, but its very basic.
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A refurbished LG G Watch doesn't go for much more than that.
i95 is a good option,and it's only $83.8 now.you can gey it from tinydeal.
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A refurbished LG G Watch doesn't go for much more than that.
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Where? Cause not where i'm from, thats for sure. Even used, were looking at over three tines the retail price if the GT08.
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Where? Cause not where i'm from, thats for sure. Even used, were looking at over three tines the retail price if the GT08.
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Brand new from high volume reputable ebay sellers- about $85USD
About once a month or so you find a fire sale from similar sellers on refurbs which run around $50-60USD.
I got my refurb W100 Black the same way over a year ago and it only cost me $65USD.
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Brand new from high volume reputable ebay sellers- about $85USD
About once a month or so you find a fire sale from similar sellers on refurbs which run around $50-60USD.
I got my refurb W100 Black the same way over a year ago and it only cost me $65USD.
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Well damn. Thats pretty good. Its way way higher than that over here. Even used, you're looking at 120+ usd.
thanks guys for some good info, just finding it to find any cheap ones here in the uk, any links i would be very very gratefull, i like the sound of the moto 360 first gen, and the lg refurb ones but any ideas for cheap links please
Just found this thread I am in the same position. I am a developer and I have a tablet and smart phone and I am looking for a smartwatch that is blue tooth WIFI full android OS and good specs new though not referb I have seen some on Ebay that is completely unlocked GSM which is what I am looking for but I want to make sure its a good device that I can not only use but develop with as I might end up getting 2 1 to develop with and 1 to use.