Database Users

Is your Exec SLOW.....

Only had my Exec for 2 days and so far I have got to say I am not inpressed.
All applications open up so slowly I cant beleive that there is a 520mhz processor in this thing.
You open up an application say "media player" and when your finished you click OK in the corner, You think the program has closed but it hasn't It is still running in the background. Why don't apps close properly?
I have just installed a classic game 'PacMan' Now this is so small you would think the Exec would handle something like Pacman. NOPE. It is just too slow It takes 5 - 10 seconds just to eat one of the yellow dots.
My gripe with this is that it is just too Slow, Has anyone else experienced any problems with slowness.
I have 14 days in which to return it should I not be totally happy and I can honestly say I do not think I will need a week,

Did you try to go to:
Start> Settings> System > Memory > Running Programs
To kill the apps properly, press stop. Then, try to run the game again.

Yes that is how I know that programs are still running even when you think you have closed them. It annoys me that they do not close properly.
Start > Programs > Pocket Excel. Now there is no exit or close function you just have to click ok in top corner, Then you have to go to Start> Settings> System > Memory > Running Programs just to end the program.
You should not have to keep doing this and is only down to poor programming.
I have tried Pacman with nothing running at all and is still slow.
I click on Start and there is even a half seconf pause before the menu appears, navigation is just so sluggish.
If it is only me who thinks this then I possibly have a faulty exec.

Hm.. may I get the link to install pacman on my MDA Pro? If the pacman is still slow, I think it might have been due to the application itself..

Softwares will behave inappropriately if they are not optimised for WM 5.

docc said:
Softwares will behave inappropriately if they are not optimised for WM 5.
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Agreed, I think Tomtom 5.0 has the same issue as well..

I have installed some nice apps from here and they have some cool classic games.
[url]http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?cat=27&sortby=rating [/url]

I found the exec to be very slow, so unistall most of the o2 crap, the speed improve alot

What did you uninstall j11333?
Which O2 crap are you talking about?

ukmdb said:
You think the program has closed but it hasn't It is still running in the background. Why don't apps close properly?
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This is by design - all pocket pc apps works this way. It's called smart minimize. When your device starts to run low on memory the apps you used longest ago will be fully closed automatically.
There's a number of different utilities out there that change the default behaviour of the "X" button to actually close rather than smart-minimize. Have a look here in the utilities section on FreewarePPC:
http://www.freewareppc.com

ukmdb said:
I have installed some nice apps from here and they have some cool classic games.
[url]http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?cat=27&sortby=rating [/url]
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I did the installation, and I can tell you, even though I ran on MDA Pro with no other apps on the background, it is still lagging. Like *really* lagging (I can understand your pain now, *pats*).
FYI, my MDA Pro has been flashed with Jasjar's rom. So, might have been a universal issue (pun intended ).

no1 said:
ukmdb said:
You think the program has closed but it hasn't It is still running in the background. Why don't apps close properly?
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This is by design - all pocket pc apps works this way. It's called smart minimize. When your device starts to run low on memory the apps you used longest ago will be fully closed automatically.
There's a number of different utilities out there that change the default behaviour of the "X" button to actually close rather than smart-minimize. Have a look here in the utilities section on FreewarePPC:
http://www.freewareppc.com
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Can you recommend a good one that is compatible with the Universal please?

I've installed Spb Pocket Plus v3.0.4 on mine and it works nicely

ukmdb said:
I click on Start and there is even a half seconf pause before the menu appears, navigation is just so sluggish.
If it is only me who thinks this then I possibly have a faulty exec.
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You should see a big differance if you turn off error reporting: Start - Settings - System - Error Reporting - Disable Error Reporting

I have tried to play a movie on my Exec via WindowsMediaPlayer and its slow and jerking...
Tried installing TCPMP as another player, but still seems to have the same performance issues.
I have disabled "error reporting" & "Incoming Beams" as mentioned in previous threads....
Not sure its helped at all.
I`m also confussed about the poor performance on such a high spec machine.....

It could be that the encoder you use on the PC to convert the files is actually converting them badly, so it may not be a playback issue at all.
I recommend you try NVIDIA PureVideo: http://www.nvidia.com/object/dvd_decoder.html

Jdee246 Thanks for the advice,
I have disabled "error reporting" and have noticed a difference.
I have also downloaded small menu that hellps you close all apps with one tap of the screen. http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/smallmenu.shtml
I have also hard reset the exec 3 times and have tried the Advanced and basic setups but the speed is still not up to what it should be compaired to other pda's

Many thanks CJSnet...
Very good point...
But still feel that the Exec should perform so much better than this..
It has the fastest CPU and Memory than any other modile

I was trying to point out that it may be nothing to do with the Exec performance, if the encoded file is encoded with pauses and lost frames.
However generally we all agree the Universal's performance is terribly poor, and there is another thread where you can see that ROMs are coming out to fix this.

davidberrysmith said:
I've installed Spb Pocket Plus v3.0.4 on mine and it works nicely
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Thanks but I was hoping for one that doesn't install lots of other features I don't want and that take up resources.
Any other there that work, and ONLY provide a 'real task close' function to the existing looking button?

[24.02.2010] AutoClosePatch 1.1

As posted on my blog: http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/68/AutoClosePatch_1_0_released/
Updated to 1.1 on 24 February 2010
AutoClosePatch
Some devices, especially the new 2009 Omnia series from Samsung do not have a lot of memory available. Some of these are also configured to use rather aggressive memory management. The result is that you can hardly start any amount of applications (3 or 4, usually) before the system starts to shut down already running applications, while half or more of the available physical memory is not being used at all.
What AutoClosePatch attempts to do is hook into these memory management functions and beat them into submission, preventing them from doing anything we have not explicitly told them to do.
Of course, we do have to have automatic application closing functionality so our devices do not get stuck in a low memory position, so occasionally we let the system do what it wants within specified parameters.
Note that this patch was specifically written and only tested on the Omnia II (I8000), but it should work on many WM 6.5 devices. This patch does not need any of the other changes mentioned in various MoDaCo threads and is compatible with TaskMon!
Also note that the system is not always very smart, and in my experience tends to close the last application I openened instead of the first.
Beta
Consider this a beta version (even though it is a 1.0 release). Several factors come into play and operation cannot be guaranteed. Works great for me, though!
I take no responsibility for issues that may occur, at all. If your dog explodes due to using AutoClosePatch, tough luck.
Settings
By default, my Omnia II starts closing apps when available memory drops below about 30mb, and doesn't stop closing apps until available memory has risen above about 45mb. As I start out with about 50mb of available memory this isn't very handy.
AutoClosePatch's default settings are to not start closing apps until available memory drops below 15mb, and to stop closing apps when available memory has risen to above 20mb.
The "Ultra" variant lowers this to 10/15, but has more chance of showing you an 'out-of-memory' dialog.
Installation
Install the AutoClosePatch CAB. If you want to play with the "Ultra" variant, install the normal version first!
Soft-reset after installation
Uninstallation
Simply uninstall the CAB files if you are not using the "Ultra" variant. Uninstalling will clear most settings but not some system settings. These changes aren't harmful, but you'll need to hard-reset to clear them up.
Soft-reset after uninstallation
Technical
Skip this part if you're not a techy
The whole thing is done through run-time patching, this means no files are modified on the device itself, only in-memory.
Some system calls are overridden / intercepted in shell32.exe, and depending on actual memory state WM_CLOSE may be re-cast as WM_HIBERNATE.
For the new 2009 Omnia series from Samsung TaskMon.dll is also patched, disabling it's application closing functionality. All other TaskMon functions should remain fully operational. In essence, only the standard WM application closing functionality should remain functional.
The low memory boundary (when apps start being closed) can be configured through the following registry key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Chainfire\AutoClosePatch\CloseStartMB
The high memory boundary (when apps stop being closed) can be configured through the following reigstry key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Chainfire\AutoClosePatch\CloseStopMB
You must soft-reset after changing these keys for them to take effect.
Also note that if you are going below the default 15/20 value you must install the "Ultra" settings first.
Furthermore, if you are playing with very low settings (and are thus using the "Ultra" settings) make sure to NOT set the CloseStopMB value above 20!
Downloads
REDISTRIBUTION AND COOKING INTO ROMS IS EXPLICITLY FORBIDDEN (for the time being)
AutoClosePatch v1.1
AutoClosePatch v1.1 Ultra (Settings only)
Donate
Donations can be made through PayPal
Changelog
1.1 Adjusted closing behavior so it closes less programs
1.1 Slightly adjusted default settings
1.0 Initial release

looks pretty cool
my omnia should arrive sometime next week, will definitely use this.
thanks !

does not really work for me, whenever i get to 10mb of free ram, all applications get closed ...

khomen that should be fixed in 1.1

Works with Omnia B7610 but with a bug
When memory reaches 24mb down (in my case 24-18mb) you cannot open anymore applications/programs,and those that were opened (16 apps opened with 24mb left) even the task manager cannot be opened, so soft reset is needed to close all... Though system apps (those in the settings) still open and run.

Thank you my good man 08C54399RW746270M Here you have little something for beer

fire_z said:
Works with Omnia B7610 but with a bug
When memory reaches 24mb down (in my case 24-18mb) you cannot open anymore applications/programs,and those that were opened (16 apps opened with 24mb left) even the task manager cannot be opened, so soft reset is needed to close all... Though system apps (those in the settings) still open and run.
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Did this happen with 1.0 or 1.1 ?
Please try agian with 1.1 and make sure to soft-reset after installation !

Thank you!
Works great on my omnia i900!
Just what I needed!
Best regards!

Hi Chainfire,
Donation sent to keep your research on.
Thanks very much.

Thank you so much.
I found this thread from WinMo and is now going to give it a try.
Thanks again for your work!

Not working?
Hi,
This is exactly what I am looking for, but it does not seem to work on my devise TP2, the programs still close randomly...
I try to run the regular and ultra manually, I do not see any loaded progam (I guess that is normal since it leaves only the dll), but I do not see any entries/changes in the Registry?
Please help to make this work or propose another solution.
THanks,

Hi Stephane,
personally I switched from AutoClosePatch to EverApp (see http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/291321/app-everapp-v0-2-application-persistence-under-wm6-x/ for details).
It is working more confident for the case that you have individual apps that must not be closed when running in background (apps like countdown-timers, SIP-phones etc.).

This is good.. i thought closing down apps is a problem of Omnia pro only...
With this patch, my Omnia is very powerful again as my previous Touch Pro..
Thanks a lot..

Im trying it on my Omnia II now and its look really good
Thx for it!

i always have out of memory crash

Thanks for your great work. But i have a doubt:
Is there a way to exclude only one App from being closed?
I really like the autoclose function, it keeps my mobile working correctly all the day, but I'm working with my mobile ERP all the day long and i don't want anyone to close it...
thanks!

Nosfi said:
Thanks for your great work. But i have a doubt:
Is there a way to exclude only one App from being closed?
I really like the autoclose function, it keeps my mobile working correctly all the day, but I'm working with my mobile ERP all the day long and i don't want anyone to close it...
thanks!
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To do no repost, here is the link to my advice http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8508020&postcount=12.

This sounds great, but,does not work on my Omnia Pro B7610...
It installs correctly, but i get something like that after soft reset:
An unhandled exception occured at $000115E0 : EAccessViolation : Acces Violation
$000115E0
$00011818
i wish U could tell me what's wrong... i am using FluidX ROM based on 6.5.3 i guess...

Hmmm. Not really. The only idea I have is that maybe you have no .NET Compact Framework 3.5 installed. You can download it from Microsoft. If this does not help you may ask your question in the developers' thread at http://windows.modaco.com/topic/291321-app-everapp-v02-application-persistence-under-wm6x/.

[Solution] MUST-HAVE For X2 Users! Speed Tweaks & How to Disable "Slideview" & Panels

[Solution] MUST-HAVE For X2 Users! Speed Tweaks & How to Disable "Slideview" & Panels
DISCLAIMER: This works for me 100%. I have noticed 200% - 300% longer lasting battery life, AND at least 3 - 4 times more responsiveness throughout the whole phone, you can even benchmark the difference between stock X2 and an X2 run with my solution. I will not be held responsible for any damage to your phone!
I've read a lot, and done a lot on my X2 recently. From what I tested, black screen of death (when in standby mode) = DONT USE AUTO BACKLIGHT! Try this & see what happens.
Now, my X2 barely freezes or gets any lag at all, in fact, it is SMOOTH. Yes, you heard it, SMOOTH (even when scrolling through start menu).
Using the X2 as of now is a nightmare, but I've come up with a solution until MR2 comes out. And, lets hope MR2 really is for the best.
This solution is based on the standard WM today home screen. I haven't come across ANY problems at all.
One day, I came up with an idea. If I dont use tilewave, why do I have to keep it? Considering growing panel, pixel city panels caused lag to the phone, I decided to delete tilewave altogether and now my phone is significantly faster!
Standard WM today screen I think, is in fact I think its the best:
Less battery drainage, simple, fast, efficient, no black screen of deaths.
This solution works BEST if you follow ALL STEPS BELOW:
1) Uninstall Growing Panel, Pixel City (Day & Night) | (Start -> Settings -> System -> Remove Programs)
2) Uninstall all SPB shell and software. (Start -> Settings -> System -> Remove Programs)
3) Start -> Settings -> Today -> Tick Date & Messaging (Or any other plug-in of your choice, less the better)
4) Delete tilewave panel in (File Explorer -> Program Files -> Panels)
5) Delete the other panels of your choice, I deleted everything except google panel (In case today panel for some reason crashes, I still got google panel to work with) | (File Explorer -> Program Files -> Panels)
6) SKtools (Search SKtools on XDA forums search function) -> Tweak -> Optimise -> Tick Font cache size and TCP window size -> Action -> Performance -> Optimise -> Soft reset
7) Advanced configuration tool (Search in XDA forums for the program / google it) -> Performances ->
ENABLED
File system cache: 8MB
File system cache size: 16384 sectors
Glyph cache: 32kb
8) SKtools -> Category -> Clean up -> Go to EACH and EVERY option to delete bad registries, temp cache folders, bad uninstall info, etc. MAKE SURE clean up EACH option in clean-up. INCLUDING registry optimiser, do it!
9) To resolve the messaging lag: Search "SMS lag fix" in XDA forums to get rid of lag.
10) Disable Slideview: Delete the string "launch199" from HKLM\init (Use TotalCommander program, credits to bazsikar & jerpelea for this one!)
11) Disable Panel Manager (OPTIONAL): Delete ALL panels except MS_Today panel in programfiles\panels to disable panelmanager.exe
12) Disable XKeyhandler: SKtools-> Services-> Delete xkeyhandler. Step 2: Totalcommander-> HKLM -> init -> Delete Launch65
13) DONE! Soft-reset one last time, and FEEL the difference =)
This solution covers, as far as I know, the general basic operations and responsiveness of the entire windows mobile system for the X2 and/or other WM devices. I don't suffer any MR1 upgrade issues with this solution other than the "Storage card disappearing" issue, which everyone is having a problem with as well.
Disabling slideview is good option for those who think its totally useless (like me) and just causes the system to crash, and hogs A LOT of CPU resources and thus, lags the phone and also plays a role in causing the black screens. You will notice a SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE in battery life and less bugs and crashes with this one!
Credits go to XDA-developers and their respective authors for the posts, you know who you are. All I've done is complile the information and made a solution for the X2 users out there.
UPDATE: To disable slideview, read step 10, credits to bazsikar & jerpelea =)
UPDATE 2: To disable panel manager and panels, read step 11 & 12 =)
ALL THE STEPS COMBINED ABOVE WILL GIVE YOU A FAST, SMOOTH X2 WITH NO BLACK SCREEN OR CRASHES + 400% IMPROVED BATTERY LIFE (1 MONTH SO FAR, I HAVENT HAD A SINGLE CRASH OR BUG)
Feedback welcome, and please report if this works for you, because it worked for me 100% =)

Thanks for the update , I will give the SK tools thing a crack later.

Thanks for tip!
I got stability on a real good level
by just not using TileWave.
SlideView has sometimes problem with
video playing in Landscape mode...

Seems to be a bit quicker, we will see how stable it is.

thx royalbloodvi but nothing new in the solutions

Just finished with the tunning, it seems faster, lets give it a try
for now i leave my benchmark results
Integer 316.5749
Floating Point 7.565
RAM Acccess 594
Draw Bitmaps 699
MainStor Write 2011.79
MainStor Read 5667.90
Storage Card W 962.86
Storage Card R 1189.31
File List 1443
File List S Card 1034
Mine its a little slower on the internal and external memory.. idk why..

Too bad Tilewave/Slideview is one of the things the X2 had over the X1

harveydent said:
Too bad Tilewave/Slideview is one of the things the X2 had over the X1
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Slide View is actually almost flawless in my case...

My programs!!
Hi all
Im having a strange and annoying issue..., i dont know if it was after or before the procedure depicted here by royalbloodvi but maybe you can know what is going on..
If i install software on the storage card, i can see the folder created under "Program Files" and i can execute the software with no problems.
Then when i close the app, somehow, automagically the entire folder structure under "Storage Card\Program Files" gets erased, doesnt matter if i have one or twenty apps there, always happens the same thing ....
I dont know if i explain myself clearly, in fact english is not my mother language as you can see haha, but i dont know whats going on, even in this case i dont know which keywords i have to use to google it...
Please if you can give me some advice or trick would be very appreciated, even the "right" english keywords to search for it.
Thanks in advance dudes...
Alex
Mexico

coloboxp said:
Hi all
Im having a strange and annoying issue..., i dont know if it was after or before the procedure depicted here by royalbloodvi but maybe you can know what is going on..
If i install software on the storage card, i can see the folder created under "Program Files" and i can execute the software with no problems.
Then when i close the app, somehow, automagically the entire folder structure under "Storage Card\Program Files" gets erased, doesnt matter if i have one or twenty apps there, always happens the same thing ....
I dont know if i explain myself clearly, in fact english is not my mother language as you can see haha, but i dont know whats going on, even in this case i dont know which keywords i have to use to google it...
Please if you can give me some advice or trick would be very appreciated, even the "right" english keywords to search for it.
Thanks in advance dudes...
Alex
Mexico
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This is a KNOWN issue for all X2 users, using my solution or not.. only way it can be fixed is up to SE itself since they screwed the X2 over.

UPDATE: Read step 8 to disable SLIDEVIEW for significant extended battery life and a more stable X2 =)

royalbloodvi said:
DISCLAIMER:
8) Disable Slideview: Delete the string "launch199" from HKLM\init (Use TotalCommander program, credits to bazsikar for this one!)
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Credits to jerpelea for this one!

Adjustments made credits to both of you =)

royalbloodvi said:
Adjustments made credits to both of you =)
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Thanks!
And also thanks for your sharing, I'm just removing everything you suggested and let's see. Although I'm a bit sad because I like SlideView and TileWave, especially visualy but I need some functions working properly instead, so I give it a try.

As I extensively use X2, using most of it's features (besides GPS)
I must say that the main thing FOR ME was to not use extensively TileWave.
After beeing really frustrated and unhappy, I was still tracing the places where the device crash.
And found it was using some functions on TileWave, I can say it
after repeating the patterns about 50 times, I was like a real beta tester....
So avoiding it, the device works almost seamless....
The bugs I see:
As I mentioned, the main SlideView bug is playing and exiting video playback
in landscape... This always crash sooner or later.
Besides that, the device gets stuck in Sound&Notification settings once you go there sometimes
and WM Homescreen sometimes doesn't see the pictures from memory card.
Besides that, it works and if they'll ever make it reliable,
it's my best choice.

volks,
i have been using x1 for over an year and been in XDA for yearssss,
that thing that i notice in openGL (msn 7200 platform)freeze the phone and crash the system.
if you wanna crash your sytem use slideview panelmanger ,play xtrakt then run a video and your xperia will crash.
opengl on the msm 7200 platfom is very unstable(maybe its the lack of good drivers or window mobile integration).
avoid opengl stuff and you will be good.

UPDATE: To disable panelmanager.exe, simply delete all panels in programfiles\panels EXCEPT MS_Today panel, and panelmanager will no longer run.
Result: Extend battery life EVEN further! Works best for those who dont use panels like me (I find it pointless)

royalbloodvi said:
UPDATE: To disable panelmanager.exe, simply delete all panels in programfiles\panels EXCEPT MS_Today panel, and panelmanager will no longer run.
Result: Extend battery life EVEN further! Works best for those who dont use panels like me (I find it pointless)
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Yes, I deleted it aswell from HKLM\init together with xkeyhandler.exe
Good battery life and stable system, no freezing at all, no missed sms or calls.
Although camera still doesn't start sometimes even if saving location is set to phone memory.

bazsikar said:
Yes, I deleted it aswell from HKLM\init together with xkeyhandler.exe
Good battery life and stable system, no freezing at all, no missed sms or calls.
Although camera still doesn't start sometimes even if saving location is set to phone memory.
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Camera sometimes doesn't start with certain apps in the background
that's my finding.
I've had it with stopwatch running.
Once I turned this off, camera went fine.
As for me - I use panels and SlideView, but just don't use certain
things from these, also no freezes at all.
The main concern is memory card problems now!

(please excuse my english)
thanks for this solution, X2 is better whitout slideview.
but i have always probleme this memory card (like everybody)
and some crash in standy by mode -> black screen and soft reset :'(
other problème : illluminations don't work normaly (maybe because i have use a cab find in xda ...)
and picture in mms are very very very small ...
anybody was an idea ?
thanks

cleanRAM problem/Annoyance

Hey there guys, just a quick one for ya.
Has anyone come across a problem with HTC Addicts cleanRAM?
when i click the the icon to clean it starts the process but then runs my email application(default HTC app) also.
It started doing this yesterday with no changes made to my registry or other device settings.
I've tried un-installing the program and then re-installing but i still get the same (annoying) result.
Has anyone else encountered this? and if so do you know of a fix?
Many Thanks
Sharingan

Well, for me, when I run the Level 3 purge, it takes me to the dial-pad screen for a few seconds. Never really bothered me though...

dial pad
level 3 takes me to dialpad also, wierd, but works ok,,

I also get this with Level 3.

...and for me as well.

This is just how it goes with cleanram. If you have done a customized process list than I would suppose thats why it's bringing up your email because it's purging anything in your list so if it's not running already it will bring it up to purge it to make sure it's not in the memory anymore.

Yea the thing is, i haven't ran a custom purge, i just do Level 3, and it doesn't just pop up, it keeps it open :s Thats why it was annoying for me, doesn't look like there is any kind of fix, just something we have to live with. Thanks for your input!

same here
I think I have the problem that after Cleanram, My Contacts and Programs wont open at all. Then calender says Error: Not enough program memory to start program...
This is a great tool but it keeps doing this to me...
I do a level one purge or 2, same thing happens..
any ideas?

feyt said:
I think I have the problem that after Cleanram, My Contacts and Programs wont open at all. Then calender says Error: Not enough program memory to start program...
This is a great tool but it keeps doing this to me...
I do a level one purge or 2, same thing happens..
any ideas?
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Don't use Clean RAM, lol. It's not like you need to use it. I have 576Mbs enabled and I never use Clean RAM, most of the RAM used is just cache so your most commonly use programs will open faster if you don't use it.
I've never got any slow down from not using it.

Windows 8 Support

As working for Microsoft, Specially with their windows project I found it very difficult to get a proper guidance or troubleshoot their problems when Microsoft stops supporting them.
Some of you might be aware to the fact as Windows 8 pro at 1,999/- INR price tag is coming without any support from Microsoft end and neither you have any trial option to check and decide whether u should buy it or not, It becomes utterly necessary to initiate a small contribution for the great lovers of the Microsoft.
Here what we are trying to do is to get all the answers for your beloved windows 8 and help you with the troubleshooting their causes.
I would also like to tell the moderators: Thanks for deleting my previous thread but it wasn't a direct commercialization what I was trying to do was to make available things which aren't free.
As piracy is strictly neither my policy nor this forum's so we needed to pay to Microsoft and that is what we were charging, it wasn't a product promotion it was making product available at a price which makes it nearly free.
Anyways back to the topic, folks please go ahead with the issues

I just gat the Asus Q200E and im wondering if I want to switch back to Win 7 will it be tough to get drivers or are they similar to the win 8 drivers. Ive onl used windows 8 for four days and will go on trying to get used to it but so far I dont think i will stay with it. I find myself getting to pissed off with it. I am figuring out most of it but its just not for me. Maybe when there is more support int he way of apps I will use it but its too querky for me as it is.

splatoid said:
I just gat the Asus Q200E and im wondering if I want to switch back to Win 7 will it be tough to get drivers or are they similar to the win 8 drivers. Ive onl used windows 8 for four days and will go on trying to get used to it but so far I dont think i will stay with it. I find myself getting to pissed off with it. I am figuring out most of it but its just not for me. Maybe when there is more support int he way of apps I will use it but its too querky for me as it is.
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You can always downgrade to the previous versions for the windows, though downgrading to the windows xp would be bit troublesome due to the compatibility issues but windows 7 and 8 more or less share the same architecture for the device driver compatibility so downgrading to windows 7 would not bring you major issues with ur device drivers until and unless you are having TPA module installed in your laptop
and for downgrading please do contact Microsoft for a downgrade key it is absolutely free

Thank you for your help. Much appreciated..

splatoid said:
Thank you for your help. Much appreciated..
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welcome

The only issue that i have is when I leave my computer on idle, after a,little while, system just takes over 25% of my cpu. I have a toshiba portege that originally had windows 8 release preview. Any method to prevent system from doing that?
Sent From My YP-G1 running Nebula beta 1

splatoid said:
I just gat the Asus Q200E and im wondering if I want to switch back to Win 7 will it be tough to get drivers or are they similar to the win 8 drivers. Ive onl used windows 8 for four days and will go on trying to get used to it but so far I dont think i will stay with it. I find myself getting to pissed off with it. I am figuring out most of it but its just not for me. Maybe when there is more support int he way of apps I will use it but its too querky for me as it is.
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Nice, the first post in an 8 support thread is a question about 7.
goldflame09 said:
The only issue that i have is when I leave my computer on idle, after a,little while, system just takes over 25% of my cpu. I have a toshiba portege that originally had windows 8 release preview. Any method to prevent system from doing that?
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I have this issue with my older computer; 2.2GHz single core AMD athlon 64 (socket 939). I'd be curious as to what is causing this too, but I only have the release preview on that computer. For me, the computer idles at 25% and it just feels really sluggish, like each process in the system isn't running as efficiently as it could. Conversely, a modified XP (unofficially modified: all components but the bare minimum removed and slipstreamed updates / registry improvements) runs perfectly fine on the same hardware. I know XP is faster than 8, and especially so the modified version I use, but it's clear that something is actually not right. The DPC latency isn't terrible, but it's consistently over 1000 microseconds, vs XP which averaged ~15 microseconds. It must be a driver issue I'm guessing? The hardware is old and I wouldn't be surprised if one of the components isn't running well for whatever reason under 8.
I think the issue is true for both x64 and x86, I thought some of my RAM might have been bad so I took them out and switched to 32 bit while I was at it (in case the 32 bit drivers were better).
Actually on my new gaming rig the dpc latency averages exactly 1000 microseconds with 8, and though I suffer no performance issues, this bugs the living hell out of me, knowing I used to have 15!

link68759 said:
Nice, the first post in an 8 support thread is a question about 7.
I have this issue with my older computer; 2.2GHz single core AMD athlon 64 (socket 939). I'd be curious as to what is causing this too, but I only have the release preview on that computer. For me, the computer idles at 25% and it just feels really sluggish, like each process in the system isn't running as efficiently as it could. Conversely, a modified XP (unofficially modified: all components but the bare minimum removed and slipstreamed updates / registry improvements) runs perfectly fine on the same hardware. I know XP is faster than 8, and especially so the modified version I use, but it's clear that something is actually not right. The DPC latency isn't terrible, but it's consistently over 1000 microseconds, vs XP which averaged ~15 microseconds. It must be a driver issue I'm guessing? The hardware is old and I wouldn't be surprised if one of the components isn't running well for whatever reason under 8.
I think the issue is true for both x64 and x86, I thought some of my RAM might have been bad so I took them out and switched to 32 bit while I was at it (in case the 32 bit drivers were better).
Actually on my new gaming rig the dpc latency averages exactly 1000 microseconds with 8, and though I suffer no performance issues, this bugs the living hell out of me, knowing I used to have 15!
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I would like to add on to your post. Along with the reason you explained there is one more reason as windows 8 is programmed for giving max performance with the min power consumption, due to which at idle CPU tries to enter at low frequency stage and also if you have a very old system this issue arises as mentioned in the above post due to one more reason of HDD.
Windows 8 tries to keep alive threads running in background to save the power but due to CRC in the old HDD this loops the processor

Hey, I'm having problems sharing internet connected to VPN to my PS3. I've searched MS Answers forum and did come across this
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...indows-8/4e56a425-c685-4ab2-9b23-72b1cab4557e
But I'd like to reduce the steps of doing it to a single click like in a form of VBS or BAT file, how do I do that? And why is Windows 8 behaving like this like that guy said.

Hi dudes, I'm having the same problem as this guy over here.
Everytime I boot up, I have to quickly press "win+D" to get into desktop mode. If not it just hangs at metro start screen and I can do nth about it except "ctrl+alt+del". It just freezes there. Using windows 8 pro. Had this prob since yesterday. It was okay when I installed system updates on 15 Nov up until yesterday. I didn't make any software/hardware installations/updates in between this period of time.
Hope someone can help me out here! Thanks!

kay_kiat88 said:
Hi dudes, I'm having the same problem as this guy over here.
Everytime I boot up, I have to quickly press "win+D" to get into desktop mode. If not it just hangs at metro start screen and I can do nth about it except "ctrl+alt+del". It just freezes there. Using windows 8 pro. Had this prob since yesterday. It was okay when I installed system updates on 15 Nov up until yesterday. I didn't make any software/hardware installations/updates in between this period of time.
Hope someone can help me out here! Thanks!
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U need to refresh the system at secure boot

downloaderintruder said:
Hey, I'm having problems sharing internet connected to VPN to my PS3. I've searched MS Answers forum and did come across this
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...indows-8/4e56a425-c685-4ab2-9b23-72b1cab4557e
But I'd like to reduce the steps of doing it to a single click like in a form of VBS or BAT file, how do I do that? And why is Windows 8 behaving like this like that guy said.
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this issue was already reported by me to Microsoft developers team and they are working on it possibly with a update in December the new fix would be forced in your systems update
mean while if you wan't to create a vbs script or batch file go through these tutorials
http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/438621-batch-file-to-run-vbs-on-startup/
http://www.programmingforums.org/post196761.html
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/da/ITCG/thread/1743a39f-3a25-4d01-aa5c-af32e8e7c0ff

I'm actually having a minor cosmetic issue: taskbar is set to autohide, but sometimes it just won't hide until I restart explorer. Toggling the autohide settings or unlocking and moving it around don't help.

link68759 said:
I'm actually having a minor cosmetic issue: taskbar is set to autohide, but sometimes it just won't hide until I restart explorer. Toggling the autohide settings or unlocking and moving it around don't help.
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In the "good old days" applicaitons would often un-hide the Taskbar so their notification icons could show an updated status and they could ensure it would be seen. I think this method has fallen out of favor, but older applications that haven't been updated could still be sending the commands to the system to show the Taskbar. Is it possible that you have an older app in the notification area that's affecting the Taskbar as described?
Open Task Manager and Regedit.
++ on the Start Menu & select 'Exit Explorer'
or use services.msc to temporarily exit explorer by killing the service "explorer"
In Regedit, navigate to:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Curre ntVersion\Explorer\Streams\Desktop]
delete the value named 'Toolbars'.
In Task Manager, select 'File' -> 'New Task' -> type 'explorer' to restart
the shell.
If that doesn't do the trick, repeat deleting 'TaskbarWinXP' as well. in ur case it might be 'TaskbarWin8'

I've got a lot of old software but I haven't used any of it on my laptop. Something poorly coded may well be the issue, though this behavior is hardly exclusive to "old" software as windows 8 itself seems to actively embrace exactly this: by default the taskbar is auto hidden (this is not true of xp/vista/7) and if something isn't in the foreground and for whatever reason won't take focus, it will raise the taskbar and keep it raised until you click on said program in the taskbar.
I think it actually might be related to internet explorer and it trying to tell me that a download is finished, but gets stuck there. I'm going to see if it happens with IE running and nothing else before editing the registry.

OK I have a good question for you!
Enabled bitlocker on my C:\ drive. This killed the bootable recovery and also 8's ability to "refresh" without a DVD (it could not find the files needed).
How do I move the bootable recovery tools to the system partition? Will this fix the refresh problem? If not, how do I restore 8's ability to refresh without external media?

link68759 said:
OK I have a good question for you!
Enabled bitlocker on my C:\ drive. This killed the bootable recovery and also 8's ability to "refresh" without a DVD (it could not find the files needed).
How do I move the bootable recovery tools to the system partition? Will this fix the refresh problem? If not, how do I restore 8's ability to refresh without external media?
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have u made any changes in hardware or the system software after enabling bitlocker or ur system is running in dual boot
I am sure for one thing mere copying the bootable recovery tools to the system partition won't help.
I am also running my hp laptop with windows 8 encrypted but I am not facing any of these issues.
please elaborate your issue
meanwhile as I understand this might help u http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771778(v=WS.10).aspx#BKMK_WhatIsRecovery
and http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee523219(v=ws.10).aspx
these also implies to windows 8

shreshth89 said:
have u made any changes in hardware or the system software after enabling bitlocker or ur system is running in dual boot
I am sure for one thing mere copying the bootable recovery tools to the system partition won't help.
I am also running my hp laptop with windows 8 encrypted but I am not facing any of these issues.
please elaborate your issue
meanwhile as I understand this might help u http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc771778(v=WS.10).aspx#BKMK_WhatIsRecovery
and http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ee523219(v=ws.10).aspx
these also implies to windows 8
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I don't know how you're not having "this issue" since enabling bitlocker *forces* WinRE to be disabled, including the ability to refresh.
I disabled bitlocker because ReAgentc.exe refused to operate with bitlocker enabled. The only solution I could find was to format the HDD, recreate a bigger system partition, reinstall windows and do things from the fresh install. I suppose I could refresh my custom image from there, assuming it would even work for 8 (the instructions I found were for 7).

link68759 said:
I don't know how you're not having "this issue" since enabling bitlocker *forces* WinRE to be disabled, including the ability to refresh.
I disabled bitlocker because ReAgentc.exe refused to operate with bitlocker enabled. The only solution I could find was to format the HDD, recreate a bigger system partition, reinstall windows and do things from the fresh install. I suppose I could refresh my custom image from there, assuming it would even work for 8 (the instructions I found were for 7).
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these also work for for 8 as I was told in training and specifically for 8 we are still waiting for the manuals

I can't access the windows app store in my wifi network which is secured by a proxy and i have to authenticate to browse. All desktop apps works well but not the windows app store. It asks for authentication bot when i give the username and password to it, it shows "your network proxy does not work with windows store contact your administrator". what should i do to access the microsoft app store.