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Anyone got a stable task manager that WORKS?

I have a TMobile MDA that has the newest Tmobile rom installed. I have tried GSPmagic and Magic Button and both suck. GSPmagic cant close the phone or active sync, and locks the system sometimes if you dont use close All which closes everything , what a buggy piece of crap. Magic Button seemed to hog my resources and it had problem closing things as well. Is this a commmon problem or does anyone here have a solid task manager and it would be a plus to put the device lock on the task bar too. I DONT ASK FOR MUCH JUST SIMPLE AND SOLID.
thanks
Charles :x

Try InClose

Much better
Thanks Mark, that is ALOT better. uses half the system memory as well. Now I just need to figure out how to get the phone lock in my launcher or on the task bar.

Task Manager
I haven't tried InClose, but I use Truetoolbar and SmartSkey.

After having used allmost all available taskmanagers, i just assigned "Running Programs" to a hardware button. One click and u can manage your tasks. No loss in memmory or performance.
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If you want to put the phonelock in the tray, you can use VJTrayLaunch with VJDeviceLock.
For a task closer, I use VJOkButt. But it purposely doesn't close the Phone or ActiveSync since they could be necessary files. To close those, use VJTaskKiller or VJPhoneToggle.
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Phone can *not* be closed by *any* task manager. The phone all can only be closed by killing the cprog.exe process but that results a) instant soft reset b) freezed device c) flight mode turns on (depends of the device which happens, but one will surely do).

KTamas: I don't think closing cprog.exe will always have that effect.
I've done it quite safely on my Magician, except for one bug: trying to dial a contact from Contacts causes a crash.
On my Mio A701, closing cprog.exe will put the phone into flight mode.
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mach2005 said:
After having used allmost all available taskmanagers, i just assigned "Running Programs" to a hardware button. One click and u can manage your tasks. No loss in memmory or performance.
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how do you do that? I can't figure it out.

ILauncher v3.0 has a task manager that will close the phone pad which frees up program memory. It also has a traylauch. Ilauncher uses less memory than pocket plus.
Anyways here is another free taskmanager, install to phone the execute. It will allow you to see the process riunning and allows you to kill any process you want.

Inclose
Just downloaded and using Inclose. Magic Button was fine unti I upgraded the ROM. Then it went berserk. Never closed the phone pad had to soft reset. Let us see how Inclose behaves.... until now it is.

I use SmartTask with the Cingular 8125 and it is absolutely perfect:
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/smarttask.shtml
(ok, a few exceptions, like you can't quit the Phone application or else the phone resets. but otherwise perfect.)

mach2005 said:
After having used allmost all available taskmanagers, i just assigned "Running Programs" to a hardware button. One click and u can manage your tasks. No loss in memmory or performance.
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Umm... How do I do this? Can't see that option in "Buttons" in settings.

Magic Button hogging memory?
Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about...
Magic Button's exe only uses 4kb of memory! :shock:
If you wanna talk about a memory hog, we can talk about Voice Command porking up a whopping 4477kb of memory :shock:
As for a good task manager style app though (like the windows task manager), I suggest ITaskMgr:
http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/ppcstuff.htm
Excellant task manager and it is free! It also minimizes to the phone's tray. Very cool app.

http://buzzdev.net/content/view/86/1/ I currently use that one and I'm liking it.

masr1979 said:
http://buzzdev.net/content/view/86/1/ I currently use that one and I'm liking it.
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Yes, this Task Manager is great. Improved functionality on v1.5 - check the above link. And it appears to be very stable, I haven't had any issues with it at all.

herzzreh said:
mach2005 said:
After having used allmost all available taskmanagers, i just assigned "Running Programs" to a hardware button. One click and u can manage your tasks. No loss in memmory or performance.
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Umm... How do I do this? Can't see that option in "Buttons" in settings.
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Sorry, I forgot to mention that you need a lttle program to make it work.
Just install the cab and you have got the option in the 'buttons"menu.

^that's wonderful, I've been looking for that all along, nothing fancy, does what i want perfectly I can't stand all those task manager progs, thank you.

markmcrobie said:
Try InClose
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Thanks for your suggestion. I have this installed and it works sooooo much better than magic button.
It has a lot of useful features, like to rotate the screen. I can now rotate my screen to landscape when I'm using PIE without opening my keyboard. Also, if you want to minimize instead of close, you just press and hold the close icon and select minimize from the drop-down menu.

GldRush98 said:
Magic Button hogging memory?
Sorry, but you don't know what you're talking about...
Magic Button's exe only uses 4kb of memory! :shock:
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It DOES cause some CPU usage. I'll publish some more exact CPU usage benchmarks; when I tested, it caused some 1-2% CPU usage, unlike most other (decent) task manager tools. This doesn't mean, however, that it'll always cause that much CPU usage. Will definitely publish a big roundup of all these apps, along with their CPU and memory usage.

Phone very slow...

Well after 5 days of having this phone, it seems to have got very slow...
Going into messages and then opening the keyboard, the screen can just sometimes freeze.
When typing a message there is a good second lag from when I type it to it appearing on screen.
Also, ive noticed that pictures I take with the phone seem to be very pixelated on the phone.
Ive had 2 taskbars at once from opening and closing the keyboard.
Just in general the phones seems to going extremly slow. Panels take ages to open up when the panel button is pressed and take a good 3-5secs to load.
It seems like this phone/OS has a stupid amount of bugs that need to be sorted asap.
Anyone else got these problems?

guess it's a matter of expectations
or you experience issues I don't
I'm in no hurry to update to a newer rom myself

well it was fairly quick and i was impressed at first.
but now this has just turned into the slowest and buggiest phone ive had

do you exit programs or do you just put them in the background?

Evostance said:
well it was fairly quick and i was impressed at first.
but now this has just turned into the slowest and buggiest phone ive had
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Disable threaded SMS view, it *should* get rid of the lag you speak about.

Have you tried a soft reset? Leaving the phone running non stop for 5 days will slow it down.

artesea said:
Have you tried a soft reset? Leaving the phone running non stop for 5 days will slow it down.
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yep done. still seems slow...
is it because of some programs ive installed?

uh is this your first pda? I mean I asked because you said your x1 is slow. may we know its slow compared to what? if it is just slow. then I guess wm6.1 is just slow. Ialso have sim-free one. And have a few pda's from wm2003 to 5, 6 and 6.1 and yep the 6.1 is a bit slow.

Its slow compared to how it was when I got it 5 days ago.
However, i have just uninstalled:
Spore
2 tweak programs
Windows Live Panel
The phone is a lot faster now.
Before I was waiting at least 3-4seconds for messages to loads, the screen to rotate etc...

which tweaks were slowing you down?

yeah which one? might help us make ours faster too.

Have you installed touch flo? that screws up the X1's speed

Ok heres what in uninstalled. This has made the device a lot quicker (well, only as quick as default speed - as it was when the device was first used)
Windows Live Panel
Spore
XperiaTweak 2.0
Some other tweak program, allowed you to change what animations ran etc. Can't remember its name. AdvanceTweak or something
After uninstalling these, it made the device as quick as it was when I first got it.
I haven't got any random roms or anything like that. Everything on the device is official.
No TouchFlo
Standard O2 Rom
Ive editied the registry to remove the O2 Panel but this hasn't made a speed difference.

is it possible that spore run on background, developing it's creature.

I too occasionally get 2 seconds freezes. Could it be some cache setting in Xperia Tweak ? Since I don't understand them much.
You can use task manager (I mean real task manager which show processes, it's in phone:\windows) to check what eats CPU and RAM.

I loaded my X1 full with apps and tweaked a little but it's as fast as after a hard reset

Why do Leo's programs only minimise on exit?

What's that about?
I've never used Task Manager so much in my life.
I'm not sure the thinking behind this.

Get the TouchX Taskmanager off this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4947950&postcount=1
Then, on the home tab, drop down the task manager (top right corner) and you can change the options (wrench) so that apps close when you click X. It also gives you a dropdown list of running apps so you can switch between them.
Hope this helps

Thanks John.
It still leaves me baffled though at the choice of doing things the way HTC have done. Surely there's going to be many consumer out there that don't even know what a Task Manager is, who will be running slow phones with no idea why.
Or maybe they all bought an iPhone.

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CHIP STAXMAN said:
Thanks John.
It still leaves me baffled though at the choice of doing things the way HTC have done. Surely there's going to be many consumer out there that don't even know what a Task Manager is, who will be running slow phones with no idea why.
Or maybe they all bought an iPhone.
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You can also get Microsoft's perspective on this Here
This is not an HTC issue- PPC and WinMo have always minimised apps by default unless the application itself has a Menu/Quit routine.
HTC have previously utilised their own Task Manager, which for some reason they didn't include in the HD2 hence the need for external apps such as JCM suggested. Maybe they thought 200MB was ample- compared to the 16MB of the early PPC devices?
In general I've not encountered any slowdowns, but I tend not to use many apps that stay memory resident.

If you press and hold the X, instead of just tapping it, it will properly close the program. That option is within the Task Manager on the phone, in the settings of the phone.

madindehead said:
If you press and hold the X, instead of just tapping it, it will properly close the program. That option is within the Task Manager on the phone, in the settings of the phone.
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I couldn't find this option on my brother's HD2 (T-Mobile). I've seen it on all previous devices that I've add.
Will have to try the other suggestions here.

Yep, in my T-Mobile UK build I can only access the SENSE settings and not the windows mobile settings that allows you to change taskbar settings.
Grrr

That's because the task manager button in the home page was removed for this version of Sense. Literally the first thing I did when I got the phone was to find out how to add that back.
I personally think it's a stupid idea, so I'm glad for this wonderful resource that we know as xda!

Dang was hoping for a registry setting,
Any idea how turn turn on windows settings only?

CHIP STAXMAN said:
Thanks John.
It still leaves me baffled though at the choice of doing things the way HTC have done. Surely there's going to be many consumer out there that don't even know what a Task Manager is, who will be running slow phones with no idea why.
Or maybe they all bought an iPhone.
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Having the programs already cached in memory allows faster access with successive uses. windows mobile automatically closes background programs should available memory get too low.
There are many threads on this site about increasing available memory on devices to increase speed, but many of the ideas are counter productive, because best speed is obtained when items are preloaded into memory. this is why there is great performance boost by increasing file system cache and glyth cache ect. but this comes at a memory cost
Slow device will only occur when memory runs out, this is pretty rare on modern phones (Touch pro and onwards) especially when using WM 6.5.
Remember, you have paid for that memory in your phone, so make sure to use it and not leave it empty so you can look at your task manager and see 50% free just to think it makes your phone quicker

rumpleforeskin said:
Remember, you have paid for that memory in your phone, so make sure to use it and not leave it empty so you can look at your task manager and see 50% free just to think it makes your phone quicker
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Good points rumple.
It's all those years of Windows use that have made me believe that killing processes is the cure for most evils. I'll have to retrain my thinking.

Do minimized programs use much battery?

qweac said:
Do minimized programs use much battery?
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Depends on the program. If it's one that only does things when you interact with it (press buttons, scroll stuff etc.) then no. If it does other things then it may well do, but it obviously varies greatly and depends what it does.

Hero "multitasking"

It started driving me mad. If I minimize browser, I can't be sure it won't close. Not only minimizing for longer periods, but short ones as well - wanted to reply an sms when a page was loading, but when I got back to it, it started over. And all the loaded tabs were gone! Saving states my ass, it takes time to load a page from zero and only the active browsing window remains. How to make this "multitasker" multitask?

does this also happen if you return to the browser by holding home?

kendong2 said:
does this also happen if you return to the browser by holding home?
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Yes, that's the only way I switch betwen apps.

Have you installed the 'system-based' taskiller mod by any chance (you know, the one that was announced here that automatically keeps memory free by modifying the default thresholds for killing apps)?
If so, I reckon that's the issue! Either that, or you have too much running, so popping the browser into the background makes it a background task and it gets killed cos you're really short of RAM.
Let us know if you have used the tweak though...

@kengdong...
it doesn't matter how you change the apps.
For android it's the same, whether you tap an icon on a homescreen/list or whether you select it from the "task switch" thing... all that does is listing the last recently used applications but still tapping them results in the same internal action.
Source: Android SDK Documentation

I've had pretty much the same issue since I got the phone back in November (I guess I've just gotten used to it by now). I'm never really sure when I switch back to the browser if it will retain the page loaded and any other windows, or if it will reset, close the other windows, and have to reload the active page. I'm on the stock Telus ROM, no custom ROM, not rooted, no tweaks, nothing extra (I've been waiting patiently for 2.1 to come out before messing with custom ROMS).

olafos said:
Source: Android SDK Documentation
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thx for the heads up, i wasn't sure about this, actually i was asking to maybe get an answer to this worked

anon2122 said:
Have you installed the 'system-based' taskiller mod by any chance (you know, the one that was announced here that automatically keeps memory free by modifying the default thresholds for killing apps)?
If so, I reckon that's the issue! Either that, or you have too much running, so popping the browser into the background makes it a background task and it gets killed cos you're really short of RAM.
Let us know if you have used the tweak though...
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No, I have stock rom and I have never used any task killer or related app / tweak.
And I don't run too much stuff.. only music player, messaging and sense's facebook perhaps. If music player is paused, why can't it quit it instead... I prefer multitasking of my past htc s730 which had like 7 megs of free ram after booting.

Even after a hard reset, this behavior remains.

i dont know.. it works fine for me....
1.. maybe there is a setting in the browser.. to always refresh.
2.. you have a repair issue.. Need to take it in to your local service provider repair center. Let them see your issue.

Dan330 said:
i dont know.. it works fine for me....
1.. maybe there is a setting in the browser.. to always refresh.
2.. you have a repair issue.. Need to take it in to your local service provider repair center. Let them see your issue.
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Come on, it's no hardware issue. Most of the time the browser stays, but u just can't be sure about that because it sometimes just closes. I think that it's an issue with Android's STUPID memory management, which also has a scheduled "quit all" script.
Yesterday I opened up a few articles on the browser and decided to read them later. This morning they all remained and I was pleasantly surprised I could read them. This very moment, though, they are gone by now even though I haven't quit the browser - probably that 'quit all' script kicked in.
There could be something in settings, where you could chose apps which would not close ever unless quit..
I would love if Android apps were quitable without any automatic mem management.

Suggest to grab AutoKiller or MinFreeManager, which are just frontends to Android's memory management (also they reapply settings at boot time, as the system file that's being modified is reset every boot.)
See what your current settings are, and lower them (e.g. use "moderate" preset). Just search XDA for autokiller or minfreemanager for more info.

Pressing home should only move that application to the background (pressing back should close it).
If you are pressing home and applications are still closing then there must be a task killer of some sort in place closing it for you.

Lennyuk said:
Pressing home should only move that application to the background (pressing back should close it).
If you are pressing home and applications are still closing then there must be a task killer of some sort in place closing it for you.
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You obviously have not read the topic.
No task killers, tasks dont neceaarily close, its juast that u cant be sure they will remain in memory.

Lennyuk said:
If you are pressing home and applications are still closing then there must be a task killer of some sort in place closing it for you.
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Yes - it's the standard Android process management rather than a 3rd party task killer.
I guess the browser is given a low priority and is one of the first apps to be killed.
Regards,
Dave

cleanRAM problem/Annoyance

Hey there guys, just a quick one for ya.
Has anyone come across a problem with HTC Addicts cleanRAM?
when i click the the icon to clean it starts the process but then runs my email application(default HTC app) also.
It started doing this yesterday with no changes made to my registry or other device settings.
I've tried un-installing the program and then re-installing but i still get the same (annoying) result.
Has anyone else encountered this? and if so do you know of a fix?
Many Thanks
Sharingan

Well, for me, when I run the Level 3 purge, it takes me to the dial-pad screen for a few seconds. Never really bothered me though...

dial pad
level 3 takes me to dialpad also, wierd, but works ok,,

I also get this with Level 3.

...and for me as well.

This is just how it goes with cleanram. If you have done a customized process list than I would suppose thats why it's bringing up your email because it's purging anything in your list so if it's not running already it will bring it up to purge it to make sure it's not in the memory anymore.

Yea the thing is, i haven't ran a custom purge, i just do Level 3, and it doesn't just pop up, it keeps it open :s Thats why it was annoying for me, doesn't look like there is any kind of fix, just something we have to live with. Thanks for your input!

same here
I think I have the problem that after Cleanram, My Contacts and Programs wont open at all. Then calender says Error: Not enough program memory to start program...
This is a great tool but it keeps doing this to me...
I do a level one purge or 2, same thing happens..
any ideas?

feyt said:
I think I have the problem that after Cleanram, My Contacts and Programs wont open at all. Then calender says Error: Not enough program memory to start program...
This is a great tool but it keeps doing this to me...
I do a level one purge or 2, same thing happens..
any ideas?
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Don't use Clean RAM, lol. It's not like you need to use it. I have 576Mbs enabled and I never use Clean RAM, most of the RAM used is just cache so your most commonly use programs will open faster if you don't use it.
I've never got any slow down from not using it.