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Why is 3G Slow?

Ok I use have a Wing and ive never gotten a data plan because of the price. I finaly broke down and got a G1 cause there was more power under the hood plus anyone could develop on it being open. Well i got a deal on one and the price was decent so I got a data plan bundled with my original plan. Ive never used a data connection before so when I got home I started playing with it. I wasnt all that impresed with the connection speeds, Its almost like its on a crappy dial-up connection. The Youtube app is pretty much useless unless your on wifi it only plays about 2sec's before it buffers for a minute and then plays another 2sec's. Now is this normal? Is this what 3g really is? Am I missing a bigger picture here?. Heres some of the things i have done to try and get some sort of improvement.
Screwed around with APN's.
Tryed it in diffrent areas around the state.
Flashed it with 1.5 which i do believe came with a new radio.
Any input would be greatly appreciated, Im not putting down the phone as a matter of fact i love it, Im just not too fond of this connection technology.

I was dealing with some of the same issues.I installed Adrenaline and my connection seems way better

How is the coverage in you area? I've never had any problems with my 3G on my G1, always between 2 and 3 MBit connection...... Are you sure your carrier supports UMTS/HSDPA? Without those 3G is worth nothing..... Also make sure you are stationary when testing speeds.

Coverage is great ive never lost a 3g connection its just slow as hell and almost is useless to me, My carrier is T-mobile and wether or not it is supported i dont have a clue as to find out if it is.
well my test speed stationary was 38.6 Kbit\s with full bars, Doesnt even come close to your speeds. Any other Ideas?

When you're using your mobile network, does the 3G symbol show in the notification bar? Or does it say E? If it says E and you're getting those speeds then those are about right for the EDGE network. However, if you're connected with the 3G symbol next to the link, then those speeds are too slow. If it says E, make sure you don't have 2G network only checked under settings>wireless>mobile network. If that's not checked, then its likely you just don't have 3G in your area.

nope the notification is always 3G

Meh my edge is 10kb download, I would kill for 3g...
It takes miniutes to load pages and seconds to load google.

RBRat3 said:
Im just not too fond of this connection technology.
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It's not the connection technology - it's either a problem with your phone, or just that your carriers network isn't very good and/or doesn't have the necessary backbone to cope with the amount of traffic generated by its subscribers. Given that T-Mobiles 3G network in the US isn't exactly pervasive, I'd hedge my bets that it is a network issue.
Here in the UK, I live in a very rural area, and I get 2.4mbps on my G1 via T-Mobile UK. Can't really tell the difference between being on WiFi and 3G given the actual processing speed of the device.
Of course, we're very lucky here in the sense that we are a small country (thing of Georgia and Florida combined) with a high population density. This means it is comparatively simple to get blanket 3G coverage (say 95% ish at least in terms of population).
Regards,
Dave

I never really said it was the connection technology, Its just that my first impression with 3g has been unfavorable, Damn I just sold my wing and i didnt even think of trying out the 3G on it to see if anything was better. Ohh and sadly when i do get edge Its great and alot more faster which is odd to say but to face the facts i can watch youtube videos with edge with no problem. Ill probley reflash it with official 1.5 and if i get the same results then is there a way to dumb down the browser to make it almost txt based without any image and uneeded script loading to atleast make browsing the web alittle more likeable.

RBRat3 said:
I never really said it was the connection technology, Its just that my first impression with 3g has been unfavorable, Damn I just sold my wing and i didnt even think of trying out the 3G on it to see if anything was better. Ohh and sadly when i do get edge Its great and alot more faster which is odd to say but to face the facts i can watch youtube videos with edge with no problem.
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Theoretically, EDGE maxes out at 192kbps and "standard" UMTS 3G at 384kbps. With HSDPA, the theoretical maximum is 7.2mbps, but most carriers don't support speeds such as this yet (T-Mobile UK supposedly at 4.5mbps).
So, if you are getting better performance over EDGE than you are over 3G, and assuming that T-Mobile uses the same backhaul network for both 3G and EDGE traffic, it seems more likely to me that you may have a problem device. I'd suggest a trip to a T-Mobile retail location may help, since they should be able to compare your experience with other devices.
Regards,
Dave

Well ill check out some nearby stores and see if they have working display models to try it out and cross refrence them to see if they compare the same. To get alittle off topic here so far i have had one problem with the device I played Retro defense from the market (Game BTW) and i played it for 2 hours straight. After 2 hours of gameplay that phone was hotter than hell which was kinda scarey and It just shut off blinking red on the notification LED so i figured the phone can actually overheat. I can reproduce this over and over only with that game. So if that hasnt happend to anyone then its a possibility that your assumption might be right that my device might have a defect. But its kind of a big crossover between overheating and connection difficulty.

Bad Network

I love my 6t it is blazing, The problem I'm having is my signals and data speeds since upgrade from op3. Normally I would average -55 to -80 Max, that's with cloudy sky's bad weather. I live in between the 2 largest cities in the state of Louisiana, Signals are blazing fast normally. I don't know if it's just the radio of the 6t but it's horrible these are my screenshots standing outside in my driveway.

KaM1KaZ3 said:
I love my 6t it is blazing, The problem I'm having is my signals and data speeds since upgrade from op3. Normally I would average -55 to -80 Max, that's with cloudy sky's bad weather. I live in between the 2 largest cities in the state of Louisiana, Signals are blazing fast normally. I don't know if it's just the radio of the 6t but it's horrible these are my screenshots standing outside in my driveway.
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Are you dropping calls?
Is your data speed suffering?

tech_head said:
Are you dropping calls?
Is your data speed suffering?
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No dropped calls it hangs for about a second when dialing. the problem is data, at&t and TMobile says I'm not throttled an no bad network congestion. According to them my speeds should be above 20mbps and higher but I'm lucky to get 1.2mbps.

KaM1KaZ3 said:
No dropped calls it hangs for about a second when dialing. the problem is data, at&t and TMobile says I'm not throttled an no bad network congestion. According to them my speeds should be above 20mbps and higher but I'm lucky to get 1.2mbps.
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That sounds like some network, signal issues.

KaM1KaZ3 said:
I love my 6t it is blazing, The problem I'm having is my signals and data speeds since upgrade from op3. Normally I would average -55 to -80 Max, that's with cloudy sky's bad weather. I live in between the 2 largest cities in the state of Louisiana, Signals are blazing fast normally. I don't know if it's just the radio of the 6t but it's horrible these are my screenshots standing outside in my driveway.
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It's AT&T network my friend. I'm using Verizon with 0 issue while traveling.
Let me back up my statement: my friend often can't load YouTube, while I video chat with my family members while traveling together in a car.

tech_head said:
That sounds like some network, signal issues.
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Yes it does, at&t and TMobile say nothing is wrong. Something is wrong if I drop from 30+Mbps to Barely 2 Mbps.

ivanov13 said:
It's AT&T network my friend. I'm using Verizon with 0 issue while traveling.
Let me back up my statement: my friend often can't load YouTube, while I video chat with my family members while traveling together in a car.
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Never had issues with at&t or my TMobile service before, what is strange is the data speeds being identical. That has never happened my TMobile service always been faster than my at&t service. I'll have time this weekend to root and play around with network guru to lock bands see if that's helps.

Are you using a bad casing maybe?

bokkoman said:
Are you using a bad casing maybe?
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I'm using the case that came with the device, so nothing bulky or thick. Once I get back home later I'll root and play around with Network Signal Guru an try locking bands see if that helps.

KaM1KaZ3 said:
I'm using the case that came with the device, so nothing bulky or thick. Once I get back home later I'll root and play around with Network Signal Guru an try locking bands see if that helps.
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Or try to go to a different carrier shop and ask if you can test out their speeds. See if it makes a difference. Compare it to the employees that work there. If yours is still slow, maybe you have a faulty device.

bokkoman said:
Or try to go to a different carrier shop and ask if you can test out their speeds. See if it makes a difference. Compare it to the employees that work there. If yours is still slow, maybe you have a faulty device.
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Im thinking the bands could be locked to one instead of connecting to multiple bands. I hope it's not faulty device but it is worth a shot, I have TMobile service and at&t and they are the same speed for some reason. My TMobile speeds range from 50-70Mbps and at&t 30-45Mbps, Both are locked at 1.2Mbps. I use at&t service for work and TMobile for Personal use. I have the 13 Model so I could test with Verizon.

KaM1KaZ3 said:
Never had issues with at&t or my TMobile service before, what is strange is the data speeds being identical. That has never happened my TMobile service always been faster than my at&t service. I'll have time this weekend to root and play around with network guru to lock bands see if that's helps.
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Let's say it isn't the network. The next step would be to get a new sim card. If that doesn't work, ask your provider to set up your OP6T as a LTE only device.

Well I managed to fix my problem with my network, rooted check network guru everything was fine all bands worked. So I googled stock files flash via fastboot all is good now. Both my networks are back to normal, guess it was just something with the radio. :good:

Tmo 600mhz 5g is horrible

So when using 5g on 600mhz, I get 13mb download. When I switch to 4g, I get 120mb download. I think what is happening is 5g and 4g don't carrier aggregate, so your only getting a single channel download. So bottom line? Turn off 5g. What a waste

Sucks
Glad i have very low expectations for 5G. Dont mind turning it off at all if i have to. Still curious to see how good/bad it ll be since i work in a major city.

Djapatos said:
Sucks
Glad i have very low expectations for 5G. Dont mind turning it off at all if i have to. Still curious to see how good/bad it ll be since i work in a major city.
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I work in Manhattan, and I heard there's a decent amount of mw 5g for tmo. Right now I'm out on li, so I get fake 5g. Lol. It's actually slower, which I don't understand
With the poor night vision, and sht 5g, probably just gonna return it, keep my pixel 4

VZTech said:
so I get fake 5g.
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You're getting AT&T 5Ge? Strange.
600mhz isn't fake 5G, it's real, it's within in spec. Just because you get slower speeds doesn't make it fake. As you said, very likely it's a CA thing.

_Dennis_ said:
You're getting AT&T 5Ge? Strange.
600mhz isn't fake 5G, it's real, it's within in spec. Just because you get slower speeds doesn't make it fake. As you said, very likely it's a CA thing.
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Well, yes, I guess it's technically 5g. Just sucks that it's actually slower than 4g. Oh well.

VZTech said:
Well, yes, I guess it's technically 5g. Just sucks that it's actually slower than 4g. Oh well.
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lol. ya n71 is not good for speed. you gonna have wait until they start using mmwave. tmo is def good in the city. i remember when i used tmo in midtown lte was pretty good

Same, I get around 30mbps with lte and only about 18mbps with 5g, quite annoying

My opinion(results may vary elsewhere and I could be wrong) but in my area of Ohio, there are certain areas that have 4glte and no 5g and some small gaps in 4glte that now have 5g. I think its more to fill in the gaps of coverage. I personally love it and it isnt super fast but is good enough for me to have coverage in the areas that I travel with minimal dead areas.
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sunmybun said:
lol. ya n71 is not good for speed. you gonna have wait until they start using mmwave. tmo is def good in the city. i remember when i used tmo in midtown lte was pretty good
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I'll do some 5g speed tests on T-mobile when my Ultra Unlocked comes in today. I live in Greenville, S.C. The reviews I read for T-mobile on the Ultra in New York City said the the speed was about 100mbps+ for LTE and about 130-140mbps+ for sub6. Nothing extradorinary but better than LTE. Makes me wonder why your seeing such low 30mbps speeds.

Paul_Deemer said:
I'll do some 5g speed tests on T-mobile when my Ultra Unlocked comes in today. I live in Greenville, S.C. The reviews I read for T-mobile on the Ultra in New York City said the the speed was about 100mbps+ for LTE and about 130-140mbps+ for sub6. Nothing extradorinary but better than LTE. Makes me wonder why your seeing such low 30mbps speeds.
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Low speeds due to no ca when on 5g. It literally turns it off. If I set it to 4g, I get 100mb dl. 5g is a complete shtshow. Early adopters, it is what it is. I just keep it set to 4g.

VZTech said:
Low speeds due to no ca when on 5g. It literally turns it off. If I set it to 4g, I get 100mb dl. 5g is a complete shtshow. Early adopters, it is what it is. I just keep it set to 4g.
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What is ca?

Paul_Deemer said:
What is ca?
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Carrier aggregation.

Here's what I'm calling "real" 5g...millwave....

VZTech said:
I work in Manhattan, and I heard there's a decent amount of mw 5g for tmo. Right now I'm out on li, so I get fake 5g. Lol. It's actually slower, which I don't understand
With the poor night vision, and sht 5g, probably just gonna return it, keep my pixel 4
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Why don't you return it and save you and the rest of us from hearing your constant complaints about the handset?

jonboi said:
Why don't you return it and save you and the rest of us from hearing your constant complaints about the handset?
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I have 15 days to try it out. Thought people might want real world tests. Not paid ones.

I have to agree....the 5G here in Phoenix is really bad. south phoenix, tempe and ahwatukee. Did a few speed test in each area. Garbage.

Sub-6 5g was never about great download speeds, and I for one prefer t-mobile going the way they did (focusing on sub 6 before millimeter wave).
sub 6 5g is the lowest frequency band you can get, millimeter wave is highest frequency you can get. Lower frequency signals pass through objects much better than higher frequency signals, they also travel farther than high frequency signals.
The real world translation is that sub 6 is essentially getting data a hair faster than 4g but because it penetrates walls and objects better as well as travels much farther, it should translate to getting a better signal in more places. With millimeter wave, you literally have to have line of sight to a tower to get decent signal..... line.of.sight.
I, for one, would rather have better signal strength in more places than blazing fast speeds when you're standing on this one street corner facing a specific direction. I realistically only see millimeter wave being rolled out to high density areas like stadiums or temporary roll-outs for things like political events or festivals.
Sub 6 is a much better technology for real day to day usage, the only reason I see Verizon to implement millimeter wave before sub 6 was for marketing, so they can claim they have the fastest network.

Note to VZTech:
mmWave is never going to be the "Real" 5G. It can't. It requires a microwave transmitter installed literally on every block and a fiber back-haul from that location to the central office. That infrastructure doesn't exist and will never exist as it will cost each carrier hundreds of billions of dollars, except perhaps in dense urban areas(directional boring is expensive). That is why everyone is focusing on midband as the next threshold to implement - that is the reason for the merge of Sprint (they have tons of midband) and T-Mobile. Verizon has midband to redeploy and AT&T is currently deploying low and midband for the same reasons. Your Ultra will address all of it currently being deployed. If I was on Verizon, I would want a carrier based phone to handle future changes not yet announced.
As to the current T-Mobile 5G, I have a T-Mobile Note 10 + 5G (same modem but no mmWave antenna) and an Ultra in route. After receiving the phone I drove over wide areas in the Chicago suburbs and I saw ranges from very low to well over 200 Mbps. CA is part on the carrier side and part on the phone side. Since you are one of the ones testing it, have you contacted either Samsung or, more importantly, T-Mobile tech support? Perhaps there is a software issue on the phone. Perhaps there is an issue in your area that needs to be addressed. Remember, that until this week, very few people in the entire country (just those buying the Note 10+5G and the OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren edition) have been on it. I would not be surprised that there are still bugs to be shaken out on these phones and on the network as a whole. I had to call in my area about that and T-Mobile made some changes. YMMV, but it is worth a call. I wouldn't pass judgement until after I had spoken to T-Mobile and they agreed that what you are getting is all you will get.

I get 1-2mpbs down with 5g enabled and 70mbps+ down with LTE (4g) turned off and 5g disabled. I think this is a software issue where it should be switching to LTE for higher download speeds and 5g when there is coverage issues.

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I get 1-2mpbs down with 5g enabled and 70mbps+ down with LTE (4g) turned off and 5g disabled. I think this is a software issue where it should be switching to LTE for higher download speeds and 5g when there is coverage issues.
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This is due to no ca between "5g"600mhz, and 4g lte. Just turn off 5g. It's useless in most places.

5G Mclaren Edition Tmobile

Hello, hope everyone is safe. Question: how many of you use the 5g in the US. Is it reliable? Since i got my mclaren back in December, i only used it once, wasnt happy with it and i have been using lte ever since.

albaniandroid said:
Hello, hope everyone is safe. Question: how many of you use the 5g in the US. Is it reliable? Since i got my mclaren back in December, i only used it once, wasnt happy with it and i have been using lte ever since.
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I am using it in an area that was pretty weak, and it is working pretty good. It should get much better as the Sprint mid-range frequencies are turned on.

I thought the one plus mclerean was a low band phone not a mid band

last update added band n41, it's even listed on t-mobile site

I came to correct my post. I see that it can handle it just not mmwave or whatever they call it. Which I heard you can't get that through buildings. I only use my phone when I'm indoors

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I thought the one plus mclerean was a low band phone not a mid band
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It is, Sprint has the midband that will be used by Tmo for 5G.

Its good when it works. Theres one spot in town where it says its full bars but internet doesnt want to work until i swtich to lte. Im guessing its just an issue with that tower.

ErickF said:
Its good when it works. Theres one spot in town where it says its full bars but internet doesnt want to work until i swtich to lte. Im guessing its just an issue with that tower.
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T-Mobile's 5G implementation is still pretty new and I've noticed that 5 g can sometimes be slower than LTE. That being said, I suspect that T-Mobile will improve this with time. What is nice is that 5G networks are exclusive to 5G capable phones, meaning congestion can sometimes be better, at least from my understanding. I'm glad to see US carriers finally embracing 5G, despite the fact that it may not be as capable as international variants. Time will tell if we see any significant improvements with 5G coverage.
I have noticed significant improvements in coverage when traveling. My job requires I travel around a lot, since I do electrical work for cell phone towers. Historically,4G LTE coverage with T-Mobile has been spotty in certain parts of the country, but comparing my Pixel 3a XL with LTE coverage versus my McLaren 5G has shown a huge improvement and overall coverage and speed!there have been times where my pixel will get around 5 mbps vs my OP7T Pro McLaren 5G will be hitting well into 80+!

I have seen improvement also. I had to use a TMo booster in my house it was so bad. I have turned it off now.

I sometimes turn off 5G and get better speeds on LTE. But I checked a spectrum map, TMobile doesn't have enough low band spectrum in my specific geographic region. Completing the Sprint merger should help with that, and the 7t McLaren can support the Sprint frequencies with just a software update.
Fortunately I spend almost no time in cities where mmWave would matter, that's the only thing this phone can't do that other 5g phones can.

I have 5g in my rural town but the past two days the network has been acting up they might be working on the towers or something. Even my 4glte kicks of and on including my 5g.....

In my geography 5g is slower than 4g, but I checked a spectrum map and Tmo only has the minimum possible low band spectrum in my city and region. I've heard 5g works better if Tmo has 20mhz or more, and the addition of Dish licencing deals and Sprint spectrum is supposed to help later in 2020.
Anyway I'm usually just staying home using WiFi so it doesn't matter that much at the moment.

I get 110 mbs a second wear side of town and 30 mbs middle of town with 5g but I have a constant connection with 5g with 4g lte I sometimes have to reload pages cause of congestion

Sprint/T-mobile Internet speeds.

Sprint users have you noticed faster internet speeds? I received an update on 4/22 follow by the message about T-mobile allowing us to tap into their 5G. However, this afternoon when i got home my browsing was a bit snappy. I did a speed test on two different apps and was pulling 140 to 160 Mbps where before I was only getting 12-24 Mbps.

I got the same text, unfortunately I still have yet to get a software update to use the 5g from tmobile.

I just got the phone today, the note 8 on LTE was doing over 30mbps, I turned this on, 5G kicked on automatically and speeds at 24mbps lol. I saw this post, and checking for updates now to see if I can tap into Tmo 5g.
Is the software you have installed G988USQU1ATD6?

I haven't got 5g didn't connect to 5g for a few mins while traveling, I have noticed through signal checker being on band 2 lte at home very crappy sprint lte after profile and prl update so have been able to test speeds, before update I had excellent service on sprint

I had the software upgrade earlier this month. Today at work I had crappy service sending and receiving texts and slow network speeds. Now at home my status bar shows Sprint|SPRINT and have 5g. But with speeds of 2.5 up and .5 down at best.
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Here is my chat with tech support:
Tim B: 9:08PMActually your address has 4G network, it catches the 5G signal but do not support. That is why it does not work on 5G, I can see the 5G is extending to your area, and soon you will hear a good news. Then once you connect it to 5G, it will be 10 times faster then 4G.
You: 9:09PMSo I am not the only customer with this issue in this area?
Tim B: 9:09PMYou are right.
You: 9:10PMSo I should keep my network set to 4g and avoid 5g until further notice?
Tim B: 9:10PMYou are correct.

I took a few speed tests while connected to 5G in north Florida. at best 24mbps, throughout the day it's around 1-3mbps. I'm assuming it's on one of t-mobiles low bands.
edit: I was on band 2. I used that app in another thread to only select a few to choose from, it jumped on band 66 and speeds ~100mbps. Nice.

ajent said:
I just got the phone today, the note 8 on LTE was doing over 30mbps, I turned this on, 5G kicked on automatically and speeds at 24mbps lol. I saw this post, and checking for updates now to see if I can tap into Tmo 5g.
Is the software you have installed G988USQU1ATD6?
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You don't have 5g capability with a Note 8...

mistermidas said:
You don't have 5g capability with a Note 8...
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I agree?

sanmanc said:
Here is my chat with tech support:
Tim B: 9:08PM Actually your address has 4G network, it catches the 5G signal but do not support. That is why it does not work on 5G, I can see the 5G is extending to your area, and soon you will hear a good news. Then once you connect it to 5G, it will be 10 times faster then 4G.
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Lmao. Don't hold your breath.
I am in a 5G area and it is barely faster than LTE. However, I *do* get service in areas that I didn't have service before, so that is a definite improvement.

sublimaze said:
Lmao. Don't hold your breath.
I am in a 5G area and it is barely faster than LTE. However, I *do* get service in areas that I didn't have service before, so that is a definite improvement.
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Yeah, I don't really notice a huge speed difference. But I purposely went to three areas in my city that I usually don't get any reception or bad reception, and I was able to a decent signal now. So I'm definitely glad about that, since I do Doordash part-time and need my internet to work doing those deliveries.

At my house on T-Mobile I’m getting about 80 d/l and 6 u/l on 5g, and 150 d/l and 25 u/l on 4g. Pretty unimpressed so far. With the jump from 3g to 4g there was a huge, tangible difference in speeds. I certainly didn’t lose speed.

I am on Sprint and getting 5G. At night, I got 71.4Mbps speed. I don't exactly remember the day but I think it was around 30-35Mbps

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At my house on T-Mobile I’m getting about 80 d/l and 6 u/l on 5g, and 150 d/l and 25 u/l on 4g. Pretty unimpressed so far. With the jump from 3g to 4g there was a huge, tangible difference in speeds. I certainly didn’t lose speed.
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80 is about right for tmo/spr nationwide 5g.. u have to keep in mind theres 3 different 5g networks.. nationwide uses the low end which allows for more coverage but slower speeds which is what most are on..
sprint was using mid band which i pulled over 500 consistently (im in phoenix) but since the merger and about 2 weeks ago they cut the mid band from sprint in favor of tmo 5g network making my s10 5g and 7pro5g no longer able to connect to 5g networm as theyre not compatible..
basically cureently most are stuck with low band nationwide 5g as they expand their mid range and only certain urban areas will get mmWave which is 1gb+ speeds..
mmWave requires thousands of towers in covered areas as it doesnt have as much range..
what i am saying is itll get better as time goes and most other carriers dont even have a 5g connection across the us so tmo is ahead of the game..
also dont expect 1gb+ mmwave 5g anytime soon or at all unless u live in an urban area

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My 4g at work has greatly improved at 208mb/s download and a not so great 14mb/s upload. That's here in Hawaii.
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thats bot bad at all

You're not gonna notice any speed difference on TMobile 5g. Sprints 5g has the best if both worlds. Good penetration through objects and faster than 4g with better latency. Too bad it's not available to all TMobile customers yet. That's what I'm waiting for...

chetly968 said:
You're not gonna notice any speed difference on TMobile 5g. Sprints 5g has the best if both worlds. Good penetration through objects and faster than 4g with better latency. Too bad it's not available to all TMobile customers yet. That's what I'm waiting for...
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lmao
sprints 5g is also being disabled if not already in favor of tmobile 5g network.. if u read any news ud know even that sprints own 5g devices r no longer able to connect to 5g as of 4/28 except for the s20 5g devices which connect to tmo nationwide 5g now.
on the bright side sprimt customers that had older 5g devices such as s10 5g are being allowed to trade in devife for s20 5g devices at discounted rates if they receive a targeted offer from sprint.

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sprints 5g is also being disabled if not already in favor of tmobile 5g network.. if u read any news ud know even that sprints own 5g devices r no longer able to connect to 5g as of 4/28 except for the s20 5g devices which connect to tmo nationwide 5g now.
on the bright side sprimt customers that had older 5g devices such as s10 5g are being allowed to trade in devife for s20 5g devices at discounted rates if they receive a targeted offer from sprint.
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Wow that's totally weird cause TMobile themselves said they are allowing their TMobile customers in New York and Pennsylvania to use sprints 5g service. I guess I should've known that when they said they are expanding their TMobile service to include sprints 5g that it a actually meant they are removing the service. They need to work better on their communication.

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Wow that's totally weird cause TMobile themselves said they are allowing their TMobile customers in New York and Pennsylvania to use sprints 5g service. I guess I should've known that when they said they are expanding their TMobile service to include sprints 5g that it a actually meant they are removing the service. They need to work better on their communication.
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not sure when u read that but if it was a while ago then it mightve changed since u last read it.

avid_droid said:
I don't know about the who's or whats,but, elliwigy, you working on.a root or is it unable? Haha. I would try seeking internal stuff,but, over the past few years, I've gotten extremely lazy. And almost a year in jail made me forget about a lot of stuff.
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It was last week. But I guess, again, when they say something they obviously mean the opposite of what they said. Those New York residents are just magically getting increased speeds.

Since the merger my speeds doubled since March. I am on tmobile five miles from NYC. Basically the other side of the Hudson River in NJ. 120mbps up and 60mbs down. Its not the greatest but its still good.