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So I am looking to buy an international (or Latin) version of either the S10+ or the Note 10+.
I am on T-Mobile in the U.S.
1. How "bad" will it be if the phone has 3 out of T-Mobile's main bands? It only lacks 71, so what's the impact will be if I don't have band 71 on this phone with T-Mobile?
2. I read in the forum about flashing T-Mobile firmware on unlocked phones. How necessary is it? I prefer not to mess with flashing anything; done it in the past, I am not 'afraid' of it, but I just don't feel like going that route. Will I be missing anything from the T-Mobile network and services if I keep the phone in its stock ROM?
For example: Wifi Calling (important to me), VoLTE, etc. Will I have access to these features if I don't flash the carrier's firmware?
Thank you.
Band 71 is used only in rural areas where cell towers are very far apart . My phones have never used band 71. If you don't know what bands your phone typically is using you can download a free signal app from the Play Store that will show what band your phone is connected to. Unless you live in a very rural area or frequently find yourself in rural areas it's unlikely you need band 71.
Flashing T-Mobile firmware shouldn't be necessary. I don't have the international S10+ but rather the US unlocked model and I get both WiFi Calling and Volte fine without T-Mobile firmware.
I've used many different models of international unlocked phones from Xiaomi and Huawei on T-Mobile and always got both WiFi Calling and Volte to work with only one exception--the Mate 20 Pro. I had to get rid of that phone even though I really liked it because calls kept going to voicemail without the phone ever ringing first.
It turns out that on T-Mobile if your phone supports band 12 it also needs to support Volte or calls go straight to voicemail without ringing if the caller is using Volte . I never had that problem previously because in 5 years of using international unlocked phones the M20P was the first where Volte didn't work on T-Mobile.
There were lots of posts from T-Mobile customers in the XDA M20P threads about calls going straight to voicemail. I haven't read a single post about that issue with the S10+ so it's pretty safe to assume that the international S10+ works fine with Volte on T-Mobile.
Until the S8 Samsung didn't even sell a US unlocked model--everyone in the US with unlocked Samsung phones were using the international models with the Exynos chip and those phones always worked perfectly with T-Mobile which is very BYOP friendly (unlike AT&T).
The only thing you would be missing on the vanilla Samsung firmware is Visual Voicemail but last I checked you could just download the official T-Mobile Visual Voicemail app from the Play Store.
You would also receive your OTA updates from Samsung rather than T-Mobile but that's actually a plus because the unlocked Exynos models receive updates much more quickly than all of the US models including the unlocked Snapdragon models.
Sorry for the very long answer but I wanted to be thorough.
You should be fine with an international unlocked S10+ on T-Mobile. This is a much better phone than unlocked models from Google Pixel and One Plus so I would recommend going for it.
No manual flashing on your part will be necessary.
@jhs39 - Thank you for your extensive response. It is greatly appreciated!
OK, so I mostly use Band 4 with my current phone, which is one of TMB's main bands, so it seems like that indeed the lack of 71 won't be an issue.
However, how do I know if the Int. version will support VoLTE on the TMB network? I can't see anywhere any information about this phone even supports VoLTE (other than the carrier's model of course).
What about Video Calling?
Thanks again.
sbi1 said:
@jhs39 - Thank you for your extensive response. It is greatly appreciated!
OK, so I mostly use Band 4 with my current phone, which is one of TMB's main bands, so it seems like that indeed the lack of 71 won't be an issue.
However, how do I know if the Int. version will support VoLTE on the TMB network? I can't see anywhere any information about this phone even supports VoLTE (other than the carrier's model of course).
What about Video Calling?
Thanks again.
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If the international model didn't support Volte on T-Mobile there would be posts on XDA complaining about calls going straight to voicemail without the phone ringing. There were multiple threads about that issue in the M20P section but I haven't seen a single complaint about that happening with the S10+.
This phone has been out since early Spring so if there was a problem using the international model with T-Mobile somebody would have reported it by now.
I don’t know anything about video calling though because I use T-Mobile's network via an MVNO and my carrier doesn't offer video calling.
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Band 71 is used only in rural areas where cell towers are very far apart . My phones have never used band 71. If you don't know what bands your phone typically is using you can download a free signal app from the Play Store that will show what band your phone is connected to. Unless you live in a very rural area or frequently find yourself in rural areas it's unlikely you need band 71.
Flashing T-Mobile firmware shouldn't be necessary. I don't have the international S10+ but rather the US unlocked model and I get both WiFi Calling and Volte fine without T-Mobile firmware.
I've used many different models of international unlocked phones from Xiaomi and Huawei on T-Mobile and always got both WiFi Calling and Volte to work with only one exception--the Mate 20 Pro. I had to get rid of that phone even though I really liked it because calls kept going to voicemail without the phone ever ringing first.
It turns out that on T-Mobile if your phone supports band 12 it also needs to support Volte or calls go straight to voicemail without ringing if the caller is using Volte . I never had that problem previously because in 5 years of using international unlocked phones the M20P was the first where Volte didn't work on T-Mobile.
There were lots of posts from T-Mobile customers in the XDA M20P threads about calls going straight to voicemail. I haven't read a single post about that issue with the S10+ so it's pretty safe to assume that the international S10+ works fine with Volte on T-Mobile.
Until the S8 Samsung didn't even sell a US unlocked model--everyone in the US with unlocked Samsung phones were using the international models with the Exynos chip and those phones always worked perfectly with T-Mobile which is very BYOP friendly (unlike AT&T).
The only thing you would be missing on the vanilla Samsung firmware is Visual Voicemail but last I checked you could just download the official T-Mobile Visual Voicemail app from the Play Store.
You would also receive your OTA updates from Samsung rather than T-Mobile but that's actually a plus because the unlocked Exynos models receive updates much more quickly than all of the US models including the unlocked Snapdragon models.
Sorry for the very long answer but I wanted to be thorough.
You should be fine with an international unlocked S10+ on T-Mobile. This is a much better phone than unlocked models from Google Pixel and One Plus so I would recommend going for it.
No manual flashing on your part will be necessary.
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That's odd. I'm using a mate 20X and the although it lacks bands 66 and 71 I don't get calls going to voicemail. In fact when viewing my historical phone signal via gsam app, it shows that I always receive a better signal than even the S10+ that I'm currently using. Both devices on T-Mobile USA.
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sbi1 said:
So I am looking to buy an international (or Latin) version of either the S10+ or the Note 10+.
I am on T-Mobile in the U.S.
1. How "bad" will it be if the phone has 3 out of T-Mobile's main bands? It only lacks 71, so what's the impact will be if I don't have band 71 on this phone with T-Mobile?
2. I read in the forum about flashing T-Mobile firmware on unlocked phones. How necessary is it? I prefer not to mess with flashing anything; done it in the past, I am not 'afraid' of it, but I just don't feel like going that route. Will I be missing anything from the T-Mobile network and services if I keep the phone in its stock ROM?
For example: Wifi Calling (important to me), VoLTE, etc. Will I have access to these features if I don't flash the carrier's firmware?
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I have the Hong Kong variant SM-G975 with T-Mobile. No issues with bands, VoLTE. Wifi Calling or 4G, no impact. You won't need to flash the device.
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I have the Hong Kong variant SM-G975 with T-Mobile. No issues with bands, VoLTE. Wifi Calling or 4G, no impact. You won't need to flash the device.
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Thanks @varcor . What about Video calling?
BTW - is it 975F or something else?
I use Skype for Video Calling, it works fine. Mine is an SM-G9750, the best price I've seen is on Ebay. The only issue is when you first get the device you'll need to change the language since it's setup in Mandarin. A bit challenging but not a big deal. The Ebay vendor is in Houston which is where the device ships from, only takes a few days.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...im-FACTORY-UNLOCKED-6-4-8GB-RAM-/192846270776
varcor said:
I use Skype for Video Calling, it works fine. Mine is an SM-G9750, the best I've seen is on Ebay. The only issue is when you first get the device you'll need to change the language since it's setup in Mandarin. A bit challenging but not a big deal. The Ebay vendor is in Houston which is where the device ships from, only takes a few days.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...im-FACTORY-UNLOCKED-6-4-8GB-RAM-/192846270776
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Oh yeah, the legendary Never MSRP.
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Yep, I've bought a number of devices from them, won't use anyone else. Lowest prices, great customer service as well.
varcor said:
I use Skype for Video Calling, it works fine. Mine is an SM-G9750, the best price I've seen is on Ebay. The only issue is when you first get the device you'll need to change the language since it's setup in Mandarin. A bit challenging but not a big deal. The Ebay vendor is in Houston which is where the device ships from, only takes a few days.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...im-FACTORY-UNLOCKED-6-4-8GB-RAM-/192846270776
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I must the F model. I travel to Israel with a local SIM and they use the F model, and it's the only possibility I have to use their WiFi calling while there. I am not 100% sure it'll work because of firmware but better chances with F model.
Thanks.
Limeybastard said:
That's odd. I'm using a mate 20X and the although it lacks bands 66 and 71 I don't get calls going to voicemail. In fact when viewing my historical phone signal via gsam app, it shows that I always receive a better signal than even the S10+ that I'm currently using. Both devices on T-Mobile USA.
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Not having bands 66 & 71 don't cause the problem with T-Mobile calls going straight to voicemail--if band 12 is supported on a phone T-Mobile assumes the phone also supports Volte and if it doesn't then you get calls going straight to voicemail.
I'm not familiar with the Mate 20X but before the M20P I had a P20 Pro, Mate 10 Pro and P10 Pro and none of those phones had an issue because T-Mobile Volte worked with all of them.
It's also possible the problem with the P20 Pro was fixed after I got rid of the phone since it was a firmware issue that was fixable in a software update . I kept mine for 6 months before throwing in the towel. The only workaround was to turn off 4G in the network settings. With 4G off you would receive all calls since Volte is a 4G function.
I personally love Huawei phones. Hopefully after Trump is gone all of the nonsense with Huawei being barred from using Google apps and bullied out of the US market will go away but they might decide selling their products here isn't worth the aggravation.
I've also used a bunch of unlocked Xiaomi phones on T-Mobile with no issues. A nice feature in MIUI is that if Volte doesn't work out of the box there's a dial code you can enter to manually enable it.
Band 66 is an offload for band 4 when band 4 traffic is high but if a phone doesn't have band 66 it just stays on 4 so not having 66 on an unlocked phone has never caused any problems for me.
Band 71 is only live in parts of the country and is relatively new. It can transmit a signal over unusually long distances and is used to provide cell coverage in rural areas where it would cost too much to build a full network of cell towers.
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Not having bands 66 & 71 don't cause the problem with T-Mobile calls going straight to voicemail--if band 12 is supported on a phone T-Mobile assumes the phone also supports Volte and if it doesn't then you get calls going straight to voicemail.
I'm not familiar with the Mate 20X but before the M20P I had a P20 Pro, Mate 10 Pro and P10 Pro and none of those phones had an issue because T-Mobile Volte worked with all of them.
It's also possible the problem with the P20 Pro was fixed after I got rid of the phone since it was a firmware issue that was fixable in a software update . I kept mine for 6 months before throwing in the towel. The only workaround was to turn off 4G in the network settings. With 4G off you would receive all calls since Volte is a 4G function.
I personally love Huawei phones. Hopefully after Trump is gone all of the nonsense with Huawei being barred from using Google apps and bullied out of the US market will go away but they might decide selling their products here isn't worth the aggravation.
I've also used a bunch of unlocked Xiaomi phones on T-Mobile with no issues. A nice feature in MIUI is that if Volte doesn't work out of the box there's a dial code you can enter to manually enable it.
Band 66 is an offload for band 4 when band 4 traffic is high but if a phone doesn't have band 66 it just stays on 4 so not having 66 on an unlocked phone has never caused any problems for me.
Band 71 is only live in parts of the country and is relatively new. It can transmit a signal over unusually long distances and is used to provide cell coverage in rural areas where it would cost too much to build a full network of cell towers.
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P20 pro was certified and worked fully on T-Mobile , most devices after that were not.
I don't think my mate 20x connected to band 12, but if it did, then yes it'll probably go straight to voicemail.
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sbi1 said:
I must the F model. I travel to Israel with a local SIM and they use the F model, and it's the only possibility I have to use their WiFi calling while there. I am not 100% sure it'll work because of firmware but better chances with F model.
Thanks.
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The SM-G975F is the Exynos SoC variant for Europe. The SM-G9750 has the Snapdragon SoC and dual SIM's as well. Wifi Calling will work on both devices in any region, including Israel as long as the service provider offers it. The only thing I would recommend is you do some research on Exynos vs Snapdragon SoC's in the S10. Good luck!
varcor said:
The SM-G975F is the Exynos SoC variant for Europe. The SM-G9750 has the Snapdragon SoC and dual SIM's as well. Wifi Calling will work on both devices in any region, including Israel as long as the service provider offers it. The only thing I would recommend is you do some research on Exynos vs Snapdragon SoC's in the S10. Good luck!
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I am aware of the differences between the two chips.
In regards to WiFi Calling - I am a bit skeptical. This provider does have WiFi calling services, however they have a list of devices that are supported. Clearly they list devices and firmwares that they sell, not BYOD phones, and they sell the F version. I currently use ZTE Axon 7, I have WiFi calling on T-Mobile but it does not work on the Israeli network and when I try to 'register' it for this service through their app, it clearly says that the device is not supported.
That being said - I can't tell you if my phone doesn't work on their WF calling because it's not even sold in Israel. It could very well be that any version of Galaxy S10+ will be supported regardless of firmware. simply because it is sold there. Clearly there is no way to know this beforehand. I asked them, they of course can only guarantee phones that are sold by them and are on the list.
BTW - the Israeli version of the 975F is single SIM, they don't have the D/S, although I can't imagine this should have any impact of phone supporting or not supporting WF calling.
What's the difference between the F and the O, other than the region they are sold in?
Thanks.
Limeybastard said:
P20 pro was certified and worked fully on T-Mobile , most devices after that were not.
I don't think my mate 20x connected to band 12, but if it did, then yes it'll probably go straight to voicemail.
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Devices don't need to be certified by T-Mobile to work with Volte. All of my recent Xiaomi phones worked with Volte--none of the models were officially sold in the US or certified by T-Mobile. The P20 Pro was not sold in the US so there was zero reason for it to be certified by T-Mobile. The last Huawei phone officially sold here was the Mate 10 Pro. AT&T and Verizon require that devices be certified by them to work with Volte on their networks but T-Mobile does not. T-Mobile is very BYOP friendly.
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Devices don't need to be certified by T-Mobile to work with Volte. All of my recent Xiaomi phones worked with Volte--none of the models were officially sold in the US or certified by T-Mobile. The P20 Pro was not sold in the US so there was zero reason for it to be certified by T-Mobile. The last Huawei phone officially sold here was the Mate 10 Pro. AT&T and Verizon require that devices be certified by them to work with Volte on their networks but T-Mobile does not. T-Mobile is very BYOP friendly.
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Thanks for the clarification. So why is it then that same device , but using different sim card would show the Volte toggle or hide it from the user menu? Example, mate 20 does have Volte capabilities yet its missing the Volte toggle switch. I know on the Xioami devices one can enter a #*code to force it show that option. I think what makes it even more convulsing is that Huawei global versions have various region firmware via their Cust codes. Each one I noticed behaves slighly different using same T-Mobile SIM card. Cheers
You mentioned all calls went to VM on up 20pro, why do you think that was the case, you mentioned earlier that you thought possibly it may have been firmware related amongst other things.
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sbi1 said:
I am aware of the differences between the two chips.
In regards to WiFi Calling - I am a bit skeptical. This provider does have WiFi calling services, however they have a list of devices that are supported. Clearly they list devices and firmwares that they sell, not BYOD phones, and they sell the F version. I currently use ZTE Axon 7, I have WiFi calling on T-Mobile but it does not work on the Israeli network and when I try to 'register' it for this service through their app, it clearly says that the device is not supported.
That being said - I can't tell you if my phone doesn't work on their WF calling because it's not even sold in Israel. It could very well be that any version of Galaxy S10+ will be supported regardless of firmware. simply because it is sold there. Clearly there is no way to know this beforehand. I asked them, they of course can only guarantee phones that are sold by them and are on the list.
BTW - the Israeli version of the 975F is single SIM, they don't have the D/S, although I can't imagine this should have any impact of phone supporting or not supporting WF calling.
What's the difference between the F and the O, other than the region they are sold in?
Thanks.
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You're correct regarding Single SIM for the SM-G975F, the Dual SIM option is available in the SM-G975F/DS. I personally wouldn't consider obtaining a device in Israel if the majority of the time I'm the US. The major differences are SoC's, a minor difference in CPU Clock Speed and Cores. The SM-G975F has no FM Radio and offers fewer Primary Network capabilities. You can view a back-to-back comparison here.
https://www.phonemore.com/compare/p...gb-vs-galaxy-s10-plus-sm-g9750-128gb/10134260
This is quite different than your original question but with that being stated I would be confident enough in the SM-G9750's compatibility with the Israeli network for Wifi Calling. The worst case is not having Wifi Calling in Israel, which isn't an absolute necessity however you'll have the Snapdragon SoC which is a far better chipset with fewer bugs. For me it's the obvious choice if I were faced with your considerations.
You're most welcome
varcor said:
You're correct regarding Single SIM for the SM-G975F, the Dual SIM option is available in the SM-G975F/DS. I personally wouldn't consider obtaining a device in Israel if the majority of the time I'm the US. The major differences are SoC's, a minor difference in CPU Clock Speed and Cores. The SM-G975F has no FM Radio and offers fewer Primary Network capabilities. You can view a back-to-back comparison here.
https://www.phonemore.com/compare/p...gb-vs-galaxy-s10-plus-sm-g9750-128gb/10134260
This is quite different than your original question but with that being stated I would be confident enough in the SM-G9750's compatibility with the Israeli network for Wifi Calling. The worst case is not having Wifi Calling in Israel, which isn't an absolute necessity however you'll have the Snapdragon SoC which is a far better chipset with fewer bugs. For me it's the obvious choice if I were faced with your considerations.
You're most welcome
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SoC, meaning the chip?
You see, your definition of "worst case not having Wifi calling" is important to me , simply because where I usually stay in Israel there is almost no reception at all (inside the house I am staying in), that's the main reason I want a device that will be able to use their Wifi calling.
Also, I looked at the eBay seller that you mention and I don't even think he carries the O model any more, all I see is the F model, unless of course I am missing something.
Thanks.
sbi1 said:
SoC, meaning the chip?
You see, your definition of "worst case not having Wifi calling" is important to me , simply because where I usually stay in Israel there is almost no reception at all (inside the house I am staying in), that's the main reason I want a device that will be able to use their Wifi calling.
Also, I looked at the eBay seller that you mention and I don't even think he carries the O model any more, all I see is the F model, unless of course I am missing something.
Thanks.
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SoC is System on Chip, same as Chipset. If Wifi calling is a top priority buy the Exynos device to be certain but be advised there are numerous concerns over the chipset on XDA and other sites, plus Network Aggrigaton for Exynos in the US has issues with some T-Mobile clients. You may lose Wifi Calling or VoLTE in the US.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/help/exynos-att-t-mobile-t3920491
They still offer the SM-G9750, the link I shared is correct, not sure you missed something. The also sell the SM-G975F and SM-G975F/DS.
Hi I am interested in buying the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 5g mainly because T-Mobile is going live with 5g where I live on Decemeber 6th 2019. But from what I know the this phone doesn't support the 5g bands for T-Mobile.
I heard that there is a way to unlock those bands on Qualcomm devices and this phone uses the Snapdragon SOC.
Can this be done?
eclipsal said:
Hi I am interested in buying the Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 5g mainly because T-Mobile is going live with 5g where I live on Decemeber 6th 2019. But from what I know the this phone doesn't support the 5g bands for T-Mobile.
I heard that there is a way to unlock those bands on Qualcomm devices and this phone uses the Snapdragon SOC.
Can this be done?
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So the bands for 5g that tmobile supports is not dependent on just the processor, its also dependent on what the manufacturer decides on. As with all phones, you need to see what is the most compatible cell phone provider for that phone. If the mi mix 3 does not support tmobile bands, there's no way to force it to.
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So the bands for 5g that tmobile supports is not dependent on just the processor, its also dependent on what the manufacturer decides on. As with all phones, you need to see what is the most compatible cell phone provider for that phone. If the mi mix 3 does not support tmobile bands, there's no way to force it to.
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Correct. I've had a discussion on a Mi Mix 3 5g thread where this guy says it's a update thing not a hardware thing. Which I feel he's clearly wrong. Cell bands have nothing to do with updates, it's a hardware thing.
Dear slimegpod,
The frequency is supported in hardware but we did trials and only the Vodafone and global rom version has the Vodafone de 5g Network activated.
So I am on eu rom and cannot use Vodafone de 5g only Telekom and I am planning to switch ROMs but waiting for a moment to unlock since I will lose all my data.
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Dear slimegpod,
The frequency is supported in hardware but we did trials and only the Vodafone and global rom version has the Vodafone de 5g Network activated.
So I am on eu rom and cannot use Vodafone de 5g only Telekom and I am planning to switch ROMs but waiting for a moment to unlock since I will lose all my data.
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Yes but I'm in the States and no carrier supports the Mix 3 5g. What other ROMs are you waiting for to install?
Carrier Support Not needed for mi mix 3 5g
Dear slimegood,
I called my carrier and the result was that they communicated the values to connect to the 5g network to Xiaomi and they need to add it to their firmware. The problem being that some variants of the firmware have not picked up the configuration options.
Br
Stefan
Slimegod said:
Correct. I've had a discussion on a Mi Mix 3 5g thread where this guy says it's a update thing not a hardware thing. Which I feel he's clearly wrong. Cell bands have nothing to do with updates, it's a hardware thing.
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Any luck? The phone does not support 5G out of the box. According to manufacturers website, "5G function will be available via OTA update. Update times depend on your specific carrier and network."
Let us know if you find a way to do it without the OTA update.
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Any luck? The phone does not support 5G out of the box. According to manufacturers website, "5G function will be available via OTA update. Update times depend on your specific carrier and network."
Let us know if you find a way to do it without the OTA update.
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There should be a option under network settings. I it seems the development for this device is crap though (as far as the updates are concerned). It sucks it's on MIUI v10 which I understand why but they still should've had this figured out before releasing it.
Thanks.
Well thanks for the feedback, if the firmware gets released somebody let me know. I really like the phone, but compatibility with USA 5g is really important to me.
i dont think it will ever get 5g support in the states - it uses a different 5g tech than what the us telecoms are proceeding with as far as i was told.
Stating that - i use it on t-mobile and i get great 4g in most places.
Hi everybody,
We moved to T-Mobile and got a new iPhone XI and a OnePlus 7 T Pro 5G McLaren. My wife is not happy with the quality of the audio and what to switch back to Verizon or AT&T, and I wonder if any of you have tried the OnePlus with those carriers and if the phone works with them as well as 5G
Thanks for your responses.
Happy holidays,
Guillermo
Verizon is CDMA and I dont think the oneplus from tmobile will work
I tried mine on Sprint last night but I couldn't get it working. I read that once they merge it will work on that Network so I would think it would work but maybe I'm wrong. I'm going to play with it some more.
bcombel said:
I tried mine on Sprint last night but I couldn't get it working. I read that once they merge it will work on that Network so I would think it would work but maybe I'm wrong. I'm going to play with it some more.
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You may need to go into settings and sim unlock the device first if you haven't already
adit07 said:
Verizon is CDMA and I dont think the oneplus from tmobile will work
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CDMA doesn't matter anymore and is being shut down. Verizon only allows new devices on its VoLTE network and the phone supports all of Verizon's bands.
But the main problem is that Verizon won't allow the device for purely arbitrary reasons if the BYOD check rejection is any indication. Same goes for Sprint.
It should work fine on AT&T minus 5G support. If you had bought the Note 10+ 5G from T-Mobile, I believe that does support AT&T's low-band 5G (assuming you have the right plan) that just launched.
hungmung said:
You may need to go into settings and sim unlock the device first if you haven't already
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I have done the temporary one, but not the full unlocked as I haven't paid in full the phone.
hittori said:
Hi everybody,
We moved to T-Mobile and got a new iPhone XI and a OnePlus 7 T Pro 5G McLaren. My wife is not happy with the quality of the audio and what to switch back to Verizon or AT&T, and I wonder if any of you have tried the OnePlus with those carriers and if the phone works with them as well as 5G
Thanks for your responses.
Happy holidays,
Guillermo
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So far no one has tried. :crying:
I had my T-Mobile 5G McLaren unlocked for T-Mobile.
It works with a Verizon Sim with data only.
When I try to make it a outgoing call the phone app crashes and there is no incoming and outgoing text messages but data works just fine.
The OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren takes advantage of T-Mobile 600 MHz lowband 5G; currently, no other US carrier supports 600 MHz lowband 5G. Consequently, if you unlocked the sim on the 5G McLaren, you could use with other carriers but you would currently lose access to lowband 5G with other carriers. Moreover, as far as I know, the 5G McLaren does not have an antenna for mmWave 5G, so you would not be able to utilize mmWave 5G on any carrier. In my experience, modern call quality is more dependent upon the particular phone than carrier, so maybe your spouse could try a different phone than whatever current one? Good luck!
I messed with it some more and have had some success. I already have mine sim unlocked. I'm not worried about the 5g as that is a joke. I can't get more than 2mb down and 1mb up with 5g. Yes you are reading that correctly. TMobile sucks in new Orleans. I am getting LTE with Sprint and was able to make calls. I will post back once I get it all figured out.
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The OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren takes advantage of T-Mobile 600 MHz lowband 5G; currently, no other US carrier supports lowband 5G. Consequently, if you unlocked the sim on the 5G McLaren, you could use with other carriers but you would currently lose access to lowband 5G with other carriers. Moreover, as far as I know, the 5G McLaren does not have an antenna for mmWave 5G, so you would not be able to utilize mmWave 5G on any carrier. In my experience, modern call quality is more dependent upon the particular phone than carrier, so maybe your spouse could try a different phone than whatever current one? Good luck!
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This is false. AT&T is live with n5 (850 MHz) in a dozen or two cities. It's the same dumb approach they used for HD Voice, but 5G is being lit up market by market.
https://www.att.com/5g/consumer/
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This is false. AT&T is live with n5 (850 MHz) in a dozen or two cities. It's the same dumb approach they used for HD Voice, but 5G is being lit up market by market.
https://www.att.com/5g/consumer/
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I don't think n5 is enabled in the firmware. T-Mobile's 600 MHz lowband 5G uses n71. T-Mobile planned to add n41 if the Sprint Merger goes through. So, I don't think someone would be able to use it on AT&T n5, because the n5 band is not enabled in the firmware.
Correct. n5 is only enabled on the AT&T and T-Mobile branded Note 10+ 5G. Maybe Sprint's too if it ever shows up. Even then, I'd only trust the AT&T one for obvious reasons.
If anyone ever gets around to playing around with the McLaren 5G in QXDM or QPST, it would be fascinating to see what the modem is actually capable of and whether anything can be enabled. There should be no problem with the antenna and chip supporting it.
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The OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren takes advantage of T-Mobile 600 MHz lowband 5G; currently, no other US carrier supports 600 MHz lowband 5G. Consequently, if you unlocked the sim on the 5G McLaren, you could use with other carriers but you would currently lose access to lowband 5G with other carriers. Moreover, as far as I know, the 5G McLaren does not have an antenna for mmWave 5G, so you would not be able to utilize mmWave 5G on any carrier. In my experience, modern call quality is more dependent upon the particular phone than carrier, so maybe your spouse could try a different phone than whatever current one? Good luck!
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The OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren 5G has the Snapdragon X55 chip in it. Which means it supports all current US based forms of 5G. However the chip is software locked by OP to just low band, I assume until TMobile releases mid and high band.
I have a unlocked 7t pro mclaren that i got from t mobile. I have it on at&t right now. It's working out great. But as said be for the 5g does not work on at&t right now. The one thing that i did do was update the oneplus logkit. So i could enable volte and video calling. But still no calling over WiFi with at&t.
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The OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren takes advantage of T-Mobile 600 MHz lowband 5G; currently, no other US carrier supports 600 MHz lowband 5G. Consequently, if you unlocked the sim on the 5G McLaren, you could use with other carriers but you would currently lose access to lowband 5G with other carriers. Moreover, as far as I know, the 5G McLaren does not have an antenna for mmWave 5G, so you would not be able to utilize mmWave 5G on any carrier. In my experience, modern call quality is more dependent upon the particular phone than carrier, so maybe your spouse could try a different phone than whatever current one? Good luck!
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Thanks for the explanation, I am willing to sacrifice the none 5G but I need to know it works, otherwise... I cannot do it.
BtuMars said:
I have a unlocked 7t pro mclaren that i got from t mobile. I have it on at&t right now. It's working out great. But as said be for the 5g does not work on at&t right now. The one thing that i did do was update the oneplus logkit. So i could enable volte and video calling. But still no calling over WiFi with at&t.
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Thanks for the comment, really helpful, I wish you have it tried in Verizon as well
tanman21 said:
I had my T-Mobile 5G McLaren unlocked for T-Mobile.
It works with a Verizon Sim with data only.
When I try to make it a outgoing call the phone app crashes and there is no incoming and outgoing text messages but data works just fine.
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Thanks for the update... but as you can imagine, I need the phone fully operational.... so it looks like going to Verizon is not an option for me so far.
hittori said:
Thanks for the update... but as you can imagine, I need the phone fully operational.... so it looks like going to Verizon is not an option for me so far.
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The phone can be used on Verizon fully. You need a Sim and you also need to call in to tech support and have them set your account up for CDMAless.
Hello,
Idk how much this will help you but, I’ve been an ATT subscriber for over 5 years, I live in Naples FL, and have traveled around the state and always have good service. I keep ATT because it’s easy to switch your SIM card and use the next phone on the networt, I buy a lot of unlocked phones. I am currently using the OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren edition, not the 5G version, on the network and all is well. ATT is great but, I am thinking of switching to T-Mobile once the other phones on my account are paid off, only because of T-Mobiles less expensive plans.
i don't understand why can't use on my phone the Vodafone 5g. The OP sell the 8Pro like 5g phone. But the Voda in Hungary use not supported 5g band. i heard in Netherland has the same problem with Vodafone. Is this thing all over with Vodafone?
No problem here in the Netherlands with Vodafone on A11.
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No problem here in the Netherlands with Vodafone on A11.
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it's good to hear. I saw this on oneplus forum, but maybe it will be ok one day here in Hungary, too
nyzoli72 said:
it's good to hear. I saw this on oneplus forum, but maybe it will be ok one day here in Hungary, too
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I believe Hungary is 3500 so would come under n48/n78 so you should have it on the n78 at least
Only certain networks have 5G enabled in OnePlus. Here is list of 5G enabled networks and also how you can enable it on other networks: https://mt-tech.fi/en/modify-oneplus-7-pro-5g-8-and-8-pro-nr-lte-a-band-combos/
I don't understand why OnePlus won't enable 5G for all network providers like Samsung, Xiaomi or Huawei does. I'm using local network provider which supports 5G but is not in the list, so I have to use QPST application to modify system files and the 5G finally works.
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I don't understand why OnePlus won't enable 5G for all network providers like Samsung, Xiaomi or Huawei does. I'm using local network provider which supports 5G but is not in the list, so I have to use QPST application to modify system files and the 5G finally works.
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Many providers like Samsung, Huawei, Motorola, ZTE, Google also require some certification from provider before enable 5G. Xiaomi have by default 5G enabled but that is how many manufacturers do.
I recommend contact to your own local provider and they should work with OnePlus to get 5G enabled by default.
Was going to get a Verizon-branded OP8 but settled for a Pro unlocked just so I can root. Am I the only one?
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Lol me too. We can't get 5g on these phones through Verizon I don't think
I think this is simply Verizon, and as there isn't a lot of people using Verizon the support just isn't there.
Obviously doesn't help you but if avoid them in the future.
Has Verizon promised you 5G? Are you paying for it?
No, boss lady pays for my service coz I use it also for work. She offered one of her upgrades to get an iPhone but I can't because iPhone. Verizon OP8 was an option but bootloader locked down. OP8Pro unbranded was 3rd choice, and although it would be out of pocket, I jumped on it.
5G is a problem for Europa, too. I read that a Lot of people who complain they don't have 5g in many countrys in Europa.
On 8 Pro NO 5g ! On 9 Pro, same, NO 5g ! There is NO 5g option in "Preferred Network Type". And OnePlus sales 5g phones...
Of course i have new 5g capable SIM. My network 5g works in band 78.
Till now 5g is BS.
I'm in the UK and 5G works fine, i don't need i but it definitely works.
A bunch of people who have the 8 pro have 5G just fine.
If you're completely missing the 5G option then speak with your provider.
I read online the 8pro doesn't have the mmWave antennae so hence, no 5G.
At least for me, coming from HTC U11 (where only Band 13 works on Verizon), I'm hoping to at least get more bars more often. Daughter's Iphone 12 Pro Max, I think, gets like 60Mb download where we live. Wife's Pixel 4xl gets around 40ish. Me thinks I'll be right around 40ish too.
I'm with Visible (Verizon's MVNO). I had updated my OP 8 Pro to the latest OOS beta 11, and I see the 5G label pops up occasionally next to the triangular signal bar. Verizon has deploy sub 6 5G anchors with LTE bands, aka DSS, in my area.
So far, I can't find a unroot method to turn on wifi calling on OOS 11 with Visible cell service.