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Hi !
Does anyone actually know if android can be installed / flashed on current devices ? Or it's only for certain devices that come with it preinstalled ?
Please don't post things like: "i would love it if it did" or "omg, android is great"...
I'm looking for an answer from someone who actually knows or someone who knows exactly how this stuff works...
Thanks
PS: Menneisyys, i hope you'll post something
I don't think that you'll be getting your answer any time soon as nobody has seen the thing yet.
But i would speculate that as HTC is one of the partners, it might be possible. HTC probably wont reinvent their phones again for the android.
Not a programmer...
but i was listening to leo laport yesterday and it seems that ggls world domination strategy would be all including. so it seems very likely that they would allow some version of it for use on other phones.
http://techguylabs.com/radio/ShowNotes/Show403#toc5
At this point, since there there is no release yet and nobody has/can play with it, it's probably hard to say. However, knowing Google, there is a good possibility they will come out with an app that allows you to use your current phone (speculation).
I heard that Android based on some Java-sintacsys - maybe it is good for us?
Well, the SDK has been released, get it here: http://code.google.com/android/. A demo video is available on the page to show you what it's capable of thus far--looks promising. I'm no coder, but I wish someone would develop this for current HTC devices. As an incentive, Google launched an Android Developer Challenge (http://code.google.com/android/adc.html), where developers of "innovative, useful apps" can win up to $275,000.
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Well, the SDK has been released, get it here: http://code.google.com/android/. A demo video is available on the page to show you what it's capable of thus far--looks promising. I'm no coder, but I wish someone would develop this for current HTC devices. As an incentive, Google launched an Android Developer Challenge (http://code.google.com/android/adc.html), where developers of "innovative, useful apps" can win up to $275,000.
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I grabbed the SDk and got a basic hello world up and running. From what the video said and what I can glean from various sites. The Android OS is designed to run on existing hardware. I would imagine that includes HTC machines. Its a complete OS though not an app so I would imagine you have to blow away WM6 and put android on in order to take advantage of its functionality. The actual coding appears to be extremely easy.
I can see google or the community releasing a "shell" of Android.
The more people with it the more money for them. If you watched the video they are really trying to push the location based services from GPS, cell towers, IP address... can anyone say more cash for ads.
I wouldn't mind having it on WM and its open source so there a good chance we will see it.
Alpine would be perfect for Android
Alpine would be a perfect phone if recycled with android !!
Good processor, lots of mem and a big screen for touch sensasions!!
Is it a dream or could that become reality?
Is Android compatible with HTC Touch-style hardware or does it require the numberpad?
There is a linux-2.6.23-android-m3-rc20.tar.gz kernel file on the android google code project site, there is also ADB utility - Android Debug Bridge (comes with SDK), it has an option of flashing a device (over usb) or an emulator (which is also included in the package)...the question is how to compile that kernel and make it run on our HTCs, and what kindof boot loader does it require? Maybe guys from Xanadux know better
It's also interesting how JAVA is being used after becoming open source, it appears that android is mostly independent from the JAVA API, the only relevance I found was only basic stuff like java.util, java.io and etc (included in the android.jar)...
i think that android will work on htc devices because pretty much they are the ones that will be releasing the first devices preloaded with android and i think that white device was made from htc. I see a potential here so i ask some one to make a thread on porting android to any or a specific device. good luck and may the force be with you.
ps. i hope its a htc wizard
I'd say we'd be waiting to see the HDK come out before we can put it on our own devices, can't wait though.
A dream
The Android SDK includes an emulator, see here http://www.ohadev.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=15
Quote: "It seems that the main binary is emulator; this includes a qemu-0.8.2, which runs (in system mode) the ARM kernel image at lib/images/kernel-qemu.
Two more images are mounted from lib/images : the system.img (which appears to be the rootfs, and userdata.img, which gets replicated (and mounted from there) at $HOME/.android/userdata.img."
This guy (http://mamaich.uni.cc/fr_pocket.htm) got Qemu compiled for ARM, buggy/crashing, no visible update for several years, see also here http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/in...e_to_running_ms_dos_8_12&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
Question: Anyone have any more recent news/experiences about Qemu on ARM/HTC?
So, theoretically one could try running the Android Kernel image from the SDK emulator on Qemu on PocketPC.
Even if it works (highly unlikely), this megasandwich AndroidImage->Qemu->PocketPC would probably be fantastically slow, with dodgy/absent I/O support.
Real solution is to wait for a modifyable Kernel which can run natively on the HTC ARM processor.
Did not someone from google mentioned at the day of the release that android will run on any ARM9 based device?
dirac said:
Real solution is to wait for a modifyable Kernel which can run natively on the HTC ARM processor.
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There is no such thing as "HTC ARM processor". All major ARM-based CPUs
are supported by Linux, it's the device drivers for external hardware that are
often missing because of the missing documentation.
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There is no such thing as "HTC ARM processor". All major ARM-based CPUs
are supported by Linux, it's the device drivers for external hardware that are
often missing because of the missing documentation.
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Im sure that HTC will release drivers for all their devices since they are partners in the Open Handset Alliance..
prodinho said:
Im sure that HTC will release drivers for all their devices since they are partners in the Open Handset Alliance..
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There are some doubts that the (future) drivers will be released as free software, and not some binary blobs like nvidia, ati and m-systems did it in the past.
Binary linux kernel drivers are evil
First, I know it's a little early for this, since Win8 isn't even in beta yet.
However, I just got a Kindle Fire, and would absolutely love a Win8 port when and if it becomes possible. So I had a few questions for devs that might take up this project.
Is anyone already planning on giving this a shot?
Would this have any legality issues, since Win8 will in all likely hood require a product key, even on the ARM version?
Is it even theoretically possible, since the Kindle Fire normally runs Android?
short answer: no
long answer: the Fire runs on an ARM CPU, while Windows 8 that has been released is 100% x86. Unless Windows 8 for ARM is released to the public - which is looking increasingly unlikely - then there's absolutely no hope. Even if it is, Only the hypothetical beta would be free of charge, and would expire fairly quickly. You would not be able to run any existing x86 programs on W8ARM, and there are rumors (with some evidence) of hardware compatibility that would prohibit it being put on any existing devices. So, even if it could be hypothetically possible, its not worth the effort. and what would you, as a consumer, get out of it, other than a UI you think is cool?
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short answer: no
long answer: the Fire runs on an ARM CPU, while Windows 8 that has been released is 100% x86. Unless Windows 8 for ARM is released to the public - which is looking increasingly unlikely - then there's absolutely no hope. Even if it is, Only the hypothetical beta would be free of charge, and would expire fairly quickly. You would not be able to run any existing x86 programs on W8ARM, and there are rumors (with some evidence) of hardware compatibility that would prohibit it being put on any existing devices. So, even if it could be hypothetically possible, its not worth the effort. and what would you, as a consumer, get out of it, other than a UI you think is cool?
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The ability to run amd64 apps.
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wtf is an AMD64app?
if you mean an x64 app, then um, no, you couldn't. x86 (x64 one name for 64 bit x86 processors) apps require an x86 processor. the kindle fire has an ARM processor. not even close to compatible, with one exception - most new metro apps will be cross compatible between windows 8 x86 and windows 8 ARM (and windows phone 8, if they decide to make it different form Window 8 ARM after all)
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wtf is an AMD64app?
if you mean an x64 app, then um, no, you couldn't. x86 (x64 one name for 64 bit x86 processors) apps require an x86 processor. the kindle fire has an ARM processor. not even close to compatible, with one exception - most new metro apps will be cross compatible between windows 8 x86 and windows 8 ARM (and windows phone 8, if they decide to make it different form Window 8 ARM after all)
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You=noob
A 64 bit processor can run in either amd64 or intel64. Microsoft claim that windows 8 will be one big system. They also say that they can get arm to run with amd64 (and intel64) apps fine but they are accused of being unable to do so with i386. I watched the video released by Microsoft about it. All 2 hours....
If you don't know something don't pretend you know about it before posting.
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really, huh. Everything I've heard puts down the rumor that 32 bit arm chips, which don't even approach the power of an i3 (and 64 bit arm chips don't exist yet) will be able to run the high end emulation needed to make an x86 apps (expecially cpu intensive 64 bit apps like most of us use on windows) work..... but that's just what I know, off all the research I've done.
If windows has managed to do the impossible, well, that's great. No sarcasm, that's awesome. But I've read press releases saying it can't be done, straight from Microsoft.
And I'm no noob - been here far longer than you, and been a tech junkie for years.
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really, huh. Everything I've heard puts down the rumor that 32 bit arm chips, which don't even approach the power of an i3 (and 64 bit arm chips don't exist yet) will be able to run the high end emulation needed to make an x86 apps (expecially cpu intensive 64 bit apps like most of us use on windows) work..... but that's just what I know, off all the research I've done.
If windows has managed to do the impossible, well, that's great. No sarcasm, that's awesome. But I've read press releases saying it can't be done, straight from Microsoft.
And I'm no noob - been here far longer than you, and been a tech junkie for years.
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Go on wikipedia and search windows 8. Go to the compatibility section and read. Then I want an apology for being a [email protected]
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Wikipedia said:
Windows 8 for ARM processors will not run software created for x86; software will have to be ported by its developers to create ARM executables from source code. [56][57]
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You self righteous troll.
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You self righteous troll.
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I'm sorry if I offended you but it's just my opinion fact.
And I'm sorry if your wrong. It wasn't my fault.
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um, you proved yourself wrong - i was right, as i thought. You are acting self righteous, and your behavior is best described as trollish. And im not insulted -I'm laughing at your ignorance. In case you can't see quotes or something weird like that, lemme re-copypaste from Wikipedia
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Windows 8 for ARM processors will not run software created for x86; software will have to be ported by its developers to create ARM executables from source code. [56][57]
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I'm sorry if I offended you but it's just my opinion fact.
And I'm sorry if your wrong. It wasn't my fault.
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1) You are an idiot, your attitude and language is discusting, i'm ashamed for you, and feel sorry for you family being related to such a duscusting little man.
2) There is no such thing as "Intel64", "AMD64" is just another name for x64 CPU's, this is because it was AMD that invented the 64bit insruction, even Intel chips use AMD's technology.
3) You have no right to be here if you are so retarded that you think an ARM CPU is compatible with either x86 or x64 based software.
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wtf with the flameing people? no need to be argueing like morons to each like that. look there will be a version of windows that will work on ARM and the op is asking when that version will be released and portable to the fire. Got it????
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1) You are an idiot, your attitude and language is discusting, i'm ashamed for you, and feel sorry for you family being related to such a duscusting little man.
2) There is no such thing as "Intel64", "AMD64" is just another name for x64 CPU's, this is because it was AMD that invented the 64bit insruction, even Intel chips use AMD's technology.
3) You have no right to be here if you are so retarded that you think an ARM CPU is compatible with either x86 or x64 based software.
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Sorry for getting you involved.....
Anyway. Back to ideas on porting. It would be difficult as the Kindle Fire is Android based and running on a EXT3/4 filesystem. You would also need a different bootloader - this all involves a lot of work.
i think we should be trying to focus on the hp touchpad and the kindle fire, also the nook tablet to try to port win 8 to them once the ARM verson is released.
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Sorry for getting you involved.....
Anyway. Back to ideas on porting. It would be difficult as the Kindle Fire is Android based and running on a EXT3/4 filesystem. You would also need a different bootloader - this all involves a lot of work.
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Have you not listened to a single word in this thread? You can not port x86 Windows 8 to an ARM processor and expect x86 apps to run.
IF (and that's a big if) windows 8 ARM is released to the public, be it as a prerelase version or as a purchasable version, it'll be quite difficult to get it working on prexisting devices.
As i said before, there are roadblocks involved that may prohibit installing it at all. A W8 arm compatible 'BIOS' will be very difficult if not impossible to get working. It will be closed source, and quite possibly we will not be allowed to have it at all. Drivers will have to be rewritten, and windows 8 may still not be compatible with these drivers. plain old android (or whatever other ARM system) drivers will not work. There is also talk of Microsoft coding the OS as to not function with non-authorized hardware components (eg, will not work with some screens, cpus, ect) though i do not know how true this is.
Even if ARM is released to the public, and not available to OEMs only, don't expect to be able to do much to it - microsoft does not look kindly towards the modding community, and will be taking steps to hinder any changes we may need to make to the OS to get it to run.
The answer is, its unlikely at best.
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IF (and that's a big if) windows 8 ARM is released to the public, be it as a prerelase version or as a purchasable version, it'll be quite difficult to get it working on prexisting devices.
As i said before, there are roadblocks involved that may prohibit installing it at all. A W8 arm compatible 'BIOS' will be very difficult if not impossible to get working. It will be closed source, and quite possibly we will not be allowed to have it at all. Drivers will have to be rewritten, and windows 8 may still not be compatible with these drivers. plain old android (or whatever other ARM system) drivers will not work. There is also talk of Microsoft coding the OS as to not function with non-authorized hardware components (eg, will not work with some screens, cpus, ect) though i do not know how true this is.
Even if ARM is released to the public, and not available to OEMs only, don't expect to be able to do much to it - microsoft does not look kindly towards the modding community, and will be taking steps to hinder any changes we may need to make to the OS to get it to run.
The answer is, its unlikely at best.
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It will be released to buy. It's not open-source, because of this it is unlikely... but possible
benjamingwynn said:
It will be released to buy. It's not open-source, because of this it is unlikely... but possible
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If you dont have the source code then best wishes to you coding drivers for ARM windows 8.
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If you dont have the source code then best wishes to you coding drivers for ARM windows 8.
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I don't need to. I'm not doing it. I came here to help and most of you threw that back in my face. I'm not here to flame.
I thought I could share my experiences with Windows since 95 and help you find hope for your kindle. If you don't want it then it's your loss. I don't have a kindle fire but I thought I should try to help you out anyway.
I can't help you with your problems unless you let me. I CAN code in a variety of different languages including C+ +, meaning I could easily pick up a arm driver for a sister device and port it.
Thanks for letting me voice my opinion. If you didn't like it then go tell someone who gives two....
A few road blocks against w8 on the fire
1) Storage: Will it actually fit in 8gig? Hopefully the arm version will without all the old bloat
2) Drivers: you are not going to see any windows8 tablet comes out with the "old" OMAP4430, they are talking about windows 8 tablets being quad core with 2gig of ram or something?
3) Ram: 512meg of ram will make running w8, if you even can get it to run, painful
4) Closed source: porting binary only OS's is hard/near imposable without a comparable device with a native version (See HD2 having almost the same hardware as WP7 and android devices).
I wouldnt bet against a port, as this is XDA, but I would consider it highly improbable.
(Also theres legal issues, MS would come down like a hammer on anyone sharing a w8 rom!)
Hi.
I would like your help in order to know if it's possible to install android to this device, in order to dual boot win8 and android.
Thanks and regards.
The Linux kernel (or any kernel apart from that of windows 8) is unsupported on Intel clovertrail SoC's as used in the vivotab smart.
True that's only Intel support but we are unlikely to see Linux on clovertrail with the exception of the phone specific models (which only run the Linux kernel in order to run android).
Intel have said that clovertrail is planned to be the only CPU with this limitation. The previous cedar trail happily ran android-x86, Ubuntu, BSD or whatever you wanted. Bay trail is also confirmed to be getting full support for this.
If you do want android on x86 tablets/laptops/desktops then you want the android-x86 project. It is just a case that the current tablet atom cpu's sadly can't run it yet, although if you try anyway it might well work, its just not supported.
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The Linux kernel (or any kernel apart from that of windows 8) is unsupported on Intel clovertrail SoC's as used in the vivotab smart.
True that's only Intel support but we are unlikely to see Linux on clovertrail with the exception of the phone specific models (which only run the Linux kernel in order to run android).
Intel have said that clovertrail is planned to be the only CPU with this limitation. The previous cedar trail happily ran android-x86, Ubuntu, BSD or whatever you wanted. Bay trail is also confirmed to be getting full support for this.
If you do want android on x86 tablets/laptops/desktops then you want the android-x86 project. It is just a case that the current tablet atom cpu's sadly can't run it yet, although if you try anyway it might well work, its just not supported.
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Hi. Thank you very much for the reply.
May you get me na how to?
Thanks and regards
Like I said. It cant be done.
Well, it might be possible to but the only people who want to be looking into it at all would not be asking this question.
Your best bet is to try "jar of beans" or bluestacks if you are that desperate for android apps on your tablet.
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Like I said. It cant be done.
Well, it might be possible to but the only people who want to be looking into it at all would not be asking this question.
Your best bet is to try "jar of beans" or bluestacks if you are that desperate for android apps on your tablet.
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my main target is to get gps software working.
But to laptop i only find copilot but cant get it without paying and its a huge value.
With android it would be so much easier...
jar of beans or bluestacks would be perfectly capable of dealing with that.
What you want to do has little to do with whether it is possible or not.
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jar of beans or bluestacks would be perfectly capable of dealing with that.
What you want to do has little to do with whether it is possible or not.
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Cant run because i cant use any video accelleration.
Do you know any solution to video hardware accelleration.
Thanks and regards
lostindeia said:
Cant run because i cant use any video accelleration.
Do you know any solution to video hardware accelleration.
Thanks and regards
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Didnt understood. +1?
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Didnt understood. +1?
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I'd like to know it, i'm in your same situation.
Both jar of beans and bluestacks run fine without hardware acceleration. It just uses software OpenGLES for your android app. For something like a GPS navigation app it would be more than fast enough.
On the other hand there are actually plenty of GPS applications including many free and open source ones for windows which would work fine under windows 8. Only thing is, I'm not sure that the vivotab actually has GPS in the first place so sticking android on the vivotab to get a GPS app would be pointless as you wouldnt be able to use it.
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Both jar of beans and bluestacks run fine without hardware acceleration. It just uses software OpenGLES for your android app. For something like a GPS navigation app it would be more than fast enough.
On the other hand there are actually plenty of GPS applications including many free and open source ones for windows which would work fine under windows 8. Only thing is, I'm not sure that the vivotab actually has GPS in the first place so sticking android on the vivotab to get a GPS app would be pointless as you wouldnt be able to use it.
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Jar beans dont work well.
I have external gps.
Do you know any app? Cracked
Thanks and regards
Cracked? We might hack a few things here but we do not discuss or condone piracy.
As I said, there are FREE applications. Just get on google.
It's possible using rEFInd bootloader.
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It's possible using rEFInd bootloader.
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Could you provide any more information on how to do it? Any links/tutorials would be highly appreciated...
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It's possible using rEFInd bootloader.
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its not a uefi issue. The clovertrail chips are not normal x86 chips, they are modified and would require a new version of Linux to run on them. They will run windows 8 and windows 8 only by design.
It is a rather shameless blog post advertisement, but I wrote that article for you guys, who are asking about ports and compatible phones. You can read the whole blog post to learn how Mer works, what is needed to run Mer / Nemo / Sailfish on your device.
http://sfietkonstantin.wordpress.co...h-mer-nemo-sailfish-the-noob-guide-by-a-noob/
You can already get familiar with the tools, in preparation of Sailfish launch. It is said that the ARM bits will come one day, so it can be sure that there will be ports.
Here is the important entry in the FAQ I wrote:
Q: I want to get Sailfish running on <put a phone here> !
As you can see, Sailfish is based on Mer, and Mer do not provide hardware adaptation bits. So first, you need to get informed on how the hardware you have can be managed. X86 hardware is basically managed, but for ARM it is harder. The most important part is GPU. Does the GPU manufacturer provides Linux drivers (for Linux distributions). Does it provides driver that is compatible with X11 ? If yes, then it might be possible to get Sailfish running on that hardware. But it is not as easy. See the following video, with nemo.
Read also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197455 for informations about SDK and ports
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It is a rather shameless blog post advertisement, but I wrote that article for you guys, who are asking about ports and compatible phones. You can read the whole blog post to learn how Mer works, what is needed to run Mer / Nemo / Sailfish on your device.
http://sfietkonstantin.wordpress.co...h-mer-nemo-sailfish-the-noob-guide-by-a-noob/
You can already get familiar with the tools, in preparation of Sailfish launch. It is said that the ARM bits will come one day, so it can be sure that there will be ports.
Here is the important entry in the FAQ I wrote:
Q: I want to get Sailfish running on <put a phone here> !
As you can see, Sailfish is based on Mer, and Mer do not provide hardware adaptation bits. So first, you need to get informed on how the hardware you have can be managed. X86 hardware is basically managed, but for ARM it is harder. The most important part is GPU. Does the GPU manufacturer provides Linux drivers (for Linux distributions). Does it provides driver that is compatible with X11 ? If yes, then it might be possible to get Sailfish running on that hardware. But it is not as easy. See the following video, with nemo.
Read also http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2197455 for informations about SDK and ports
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Well written blog post. I am getting really interested in Jolla. Thanks.
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Well written blog post. I am getting really interested in Jolla. Thanks.
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Jolla phone being announed tomorrrow (20/05/13) 4:30pm GMT for live stream click here
I think its awesome
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Jolla phone being announed tomorrrow (20/05/13) 4:30pm GMT for live stream
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Intuitive GUI, Real multitasking and comppatible with apks,cool
So that means we can get Sailfish for the Razr i since it has an Intel Atom CPU?
Vistaus said:
So that means we can get Sailfish for the Razr i since it has an Intel Atom CPU?
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i think no.
you can run Sailfish OS emulator on Razr i.
EnErGy[CSDX] said:
i think no.
you can run Sailfish OS emulator on Razr i.
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But here it was said that x86 is easier to port Sailfish to than ARM and Razr i has an x86 Intel Atom CPU so it should be possible then.
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But here it was said that x86 is easier to port Sailfish to than ARM and Razr i has an x86 Intel Atom CPU so it should be possible then.
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once again, currently only emulator image available.
emulator image runs inside VirtualBox ofc you can run it on bare metal, but it is emulator.
there is only home screen, no phone app, no contacts, no browser. only use of it is to write your own application and test on it.
Jolla phone i`m sure is ARM based so waiting half year until images for ARM will be available.
and then....... it will be possible to run Jolla UI on Mer compatible device.
Jolla not showing much . . .
What worries me is that Jolla is not showing much in the way of software, which makes porting more of an issue. How many times can you demo the ambiance feature before someone asks: "Where's the beer?" Where is the browser? There is never very much hands-on with the media getting to use it. What about gaming support? What native apps should we anticipate?
(crickets chirping . .. .)
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What worries me is that Jolla is not showing much in the way of software, which makes porting more of an issue. How many times can you demo the ambiance feature before someone asks: "Where's the beer?" Where is the browser? There is never very much hands-on with the media getting to use it. What about gaming support? What native apps should we anticipate?
(crickets chirping . .. .)
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first jolla phones will be sold today in Finland.
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1393483&postcount=397
Jolla OS image is out, c'mon guys !
The CEO already said they would release the sailfish OS for various android devices in China.
blackjack4it said:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1393483&postcount=397
Jolla OS image is out, c'mon guys !
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It was for me. =)
As far as I know, Broadcom promised to get android on our small little computer Raspberry Pi but their is no news of it till now
So I started this thread to discuss all the possible ways to Port Android to RasPi
Project Name: IncrediPi
This thread on MADTeam Forums: http://madteam.co/forum/development-106/(discussion)-incredipi-porting-android-for-raspberry-pi/
This thread here on XDA: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2321557
Rules of this thread:
No spamming and No Flaming
No Fights to be continued here
Abuse/Disrespect towards newbies or any member!
Use only english
Help each other with problems
One of my uncles also has RasPi and he knows hell lot of knowledge in Programming!
Biggest problem we will see in this project is hardware drivers... Broadcom is kinda closed source I remember how my devices Galaxy Y got a semi-stable CM... Galaxy Y uses Broacom so I know the pain when we started developing xD
I hope we can see Android Running on Pi Someday :fingers-crossed:
Similar articles:
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/android
http://androidpi.wikia.com/wiki/Android_Pi_Wiki
http://www.linuxtoday.com/upload/bu...-based-raspberry-pi-station-130528005512.html
Will update this thread with more such links everyday
ALSO SEE: I am not a developer, Just trying to gather information from people
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I just saw this: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/70
He says he got the system booting fine but due to the lack of egl drivers the h/w isn't accelerating... I'll catch hold of that guy! I hope we are able to make it work
I was after this also, in what i can help let me know.
Also, at this moment the main issue is the broadcom driver,!!
Br
M3mn0t
m3mn0t said:
I was after this also, in what i can help let me know.
Also, at this moment the main issue is the broadcom driver,!!
Br
M3mn0t
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Yes, I also own a Galaxy Y which uses similar GPU and CPU! It took 2000+ Signs in a petition for them to provide us test egl binaries! I hope with the same method broadcom will release drivers for Pi
I will never loose hope
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Last update from raspberry pi was at july 2012....almost a year ago.I think its time to broadcom provide that drivers. I will get more inside this subject, broadcom drivers, them i will try something, also it would be perfect that some developers get into this thread.
Br
Arnav.G said:
Yes, I also own a Galaxy Y which uses similar GPU and CPU! It took 2000+ Signs in a petition for them to provide us test egl binaries! I hope with the same method broadcom will release drivers for Pi
I will never loose hope
Sent from my GT-S5360 using Tapatalk 2
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m3mn0t said:
Last update from raspberry pi was at july 2012....almost a year ago.I think its time to broadcom provide that drivers. I will get more inside this subject, broadcom drivers, them i will try something, also it would be perfect that some developers get into this thread.
Br
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Yeah....
I am studying C right now...
Also, Please some developers needed here
Ok!
I was working on a Website for this project and its nearly complete....
I will share it here!
Also, I have started looking into other porting processes! Just like HTC HD2 has so many OS's RasPi will also have
What version of android does your Uncle have running?
There have been cyanogenmod 7 running on the Raspberry Pi for a while without any hardware acceleration, the main problem developers are having are getting anything above android 4.0 running without hardware acceleration.
dombeef said:
What version of android does your Uncle have running?
There have been cyanogenmod 7 running on the Raspberry Pi for a while without any hardware acceleration, the main problem developers are having are getting anything above android 4.0 running without hardware acceleration.
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Can you link me to CynogenMod 7 for Pi?
For EGL Libs we have to start a petition against broadcom asking for the drivers But unfortunately we have to!
This is something that i have to dig deep before start anything, because i want to understand very well every aspect of this project.
What confuses me is, if there is already an arm 6 cellphone android with the same broadcom chip for graphics, why we cannot start from there?!! keep in mind the raspberry pi uses the same arm 6 cpu \ broadcom gpu
Br
Arnav.G said:
Can you link me to CynogenMod 7 for Pi?
For EGL Libs we have to start a petition against broadcom asking for the drivers But unfortunately we have to!
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m3mn0t said:
This is something that i have to dig deep before start anything, because i want to understand very well every aspect of this project.
What confuses me is, if there is already an arm 6 cellphone android with the same broadcom chip for graphics, why we cannot start from there?!!
Br
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Main problem is that no manufacturer except samsung provides Broacom chip on their phones!
also, In my country Pi is out of stock :/
The closest Armv6 Phone which uses Broadcom chip is Galaxy Y and it has a quite similar GPU and CPU as compared to that of in Pi! *I HAVE THIS DEVICE*
But I am not sure if we can engineer its drivers to make it work with Pi!
Also we struggled alot to get a semi stable CyanogenMod 7!
UPDATE :victory:
I was going through MADTeam Forums and then saw a post on Raspberry Pi Opensource GPU Drivers!
http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221
That means we still have hopes on getting it Stable!
Before we start we need to make a proper device tree! I'll be sending PM's to some BCM Devs
Arnav.G said:
Main problem is that no manufacturer except samsung provides Broacom chip on their phones!
also, In my country Pi is out of stock :/
The closest Armv6 Phone which uses Broadcom chip is Galaxy Y and it has a quite similar GPU and CPU as compared to that of in Pi! *I HAVE THIS DEVICE*
But I am not sure if we can engineer its drivers to make it work with Pi!
Also we struggled alot to get a semi stable CyanogenMod 7!
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Here in portugal, You can find it anywhere eheheh, the 512 mb ram version. Now what i will search and understand is, if we have a gingerbread version already working in a raspberry pi, but without any hw accelaration, maybe with the original firmware from galaxy Y we can start work with the broadcom driver, do you see the light at the end of the tunel?!
Br
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Here in portugal, You can find it anywhere eheheh, the 512 mb ram version. Now what i will search and understand is, if we have a gingerbread version already working in a raspberry pi, but without any hw accelaration, maybe with the original firmware from galaxy Y we can start work with the broadcom driver, do you see the light at the end of the tunel?!
Br
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I didn't get you :/
Anyways I shared the Opensource GPU Drivers! I still have hope that we can get HW Acceleration done in Gingerbread but I don't know about ICS or JB4.1/4.2
Arnav.G said:
Can you link me to CynogenMod 7 for Pi?
For EGL Libs we have to start a petition against broadcom asking for the drivers But unfortunately we have to!
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Just a little googling will get you them: Android on the Raspberry Pi.
But you still didnt answer my question of what your uncle's Pi was running. He might just be running android 2.3 which has been released by developers for a while now.
dombeef said:
Just a little googling will get you them: Android on the Raspberry Pi.
But you still didnt answer my question of what your uncle's Pi was running. He might just be running android 2.3 which has been released by developers for a while now.
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Nopes....
My Uncle bought a RasPi for Google Lunar XPrize! If you don't know what is that then: "Its a mission for teams all over the world to send a robot to the moon and make it run for 500 meters on the surface of the moon! They are making parts of the sensors of the robot with RasPi I am a small part of it "
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I am studying C right now...
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I'm sure you will be able to provide us nice stuff then!
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I'm sure you will be able to provide us nice stuff then!
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I'll give my best
Any progress with the build and anywhere to snatch a copy?
Im building my own set of smart glasses and was hoping to run the UI on my Raspberry Pi. If I cant I will have to just run it over a series of adaptors from my S3 to the glasses.
I need Android running well enough to voice search, Bluetooth to a Mini Rii and receive messages via ZipWhip.
Am I too early to this party?
Are there any dates for the first stable release that we can test it ?
Anything new?