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sdk for non intel mac

i went to finally get the sdk for my imac,then i realized its only available for intel based macs.is there anything i can do

boydroid said:
i went to finally get the sdk for my imac,then i realized its only available for intel based macs.is there anything i can do
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Join up with the year 2000.

That MAC has been good to me so not gonna happen...how about a answer that might actually help
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boydroid said:
That MAC has been good to me so not gonna happen...how about a answer that might actually help
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ok first of all, why are you talking about a media access control? it's not relevant to this discussion about macs. second, you need to get a new mac. the mac minis are great and are only about 600 bucks. you have an incompatible computer. incompatible computer is incompatible.

boydroid said:
That MAC has been good to me so not gonna happen...how about a answer that might actually help
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That is the ONLY answer that's gonna help you.
Unless you manage to get Google to write an SDK for PPC.

If you figger out how to install Linux on your system, it would work that way.

illogic6 said:
If you figger out how to install Linux on your system, it would work that way.
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So, it wouldn't.
The Linux SDK is still x86 only.

Yet again Apple efs its customer base
You could possibly get away with some kind of Virtual Machine, but I have a feeling vbox won't run on your architecture either.
And $600 is WAY to much to pay for a Mini.
Hell buy a $200 netbook and install Ubuntu with a Mac theme - you can't tell a difference other than the awesome that is radiated from a Linux machine VS a mac - unless you are just a linux guy and know how it works...then you could tell a difference....ok so there are some differences...but buy a white HP netbook and slap one of those Apple stickers they give you with an IPod on it...then you cant tell a difference....well you still could but its getting arguable then.
This is why the only apple product I will ever own is my 160gig Ipod classic - and when it dies Ill just build a new EEE PC for my car.

only reason i use a mac is because i need software such as final cut pro and aperture which are not found on windows or linux.

There's no way to use the SDK on a PPC Mac without reengineering the whole thing from scratch. The PPC is a big-endian processor, and x86 is little-endian, so your byte-ordering and structure sizes are different. If you've ever delved into cross-platform compiling (OpenWRT is a good example), you know that's its a major PITA. I've adapted a few small pieces of C code to successfully compile on PPC, and its no joy.
You're going to be SOOL on the virtualization front as well. There was a version of VirtualPC years ago that performed software x86 emulation on the PPC platform, but performance was abysmal even running Win98 on my Dual G5. I doubt that a modern Windows OS would even run at all. None of the current virtualization products will run on the PPC platform, as they all tie in to hardware virtualization support at some level (processor extensions or otherwise).
I truly feel your pain in this situation. I have a Dual G5 Power Mac that's still humming along happy as can be, but I can't run any current software on it. My iBook G4 isn't quite as happy these days, but is still 100% functional. Next to my G5, I have a cheapo Dell that I finally broke down and bought to power-up when I need to run x86 stuff. I recently picked up a used MacBook Pro, and WOW I can't believe what I was missing out on. The performance is night and day better than my G5, and all current software runs on it beautifully. With VMware Fusion installed, it can do anything I need. I hate to say it, but you need to upgrade.

well i got my answer,i guess a new mac purchase is a must...i have never used a windows pc so definately not going that route,question can i buy a pc with linux preinstalled on it...if that was possible i would like to learn to use it

boydroid said:
well i got my answer,i guess a new mac purchase is a must...i have never used a windows pc so definately not going that route,question can i buy a pc with linux preinstalled on it...if that was possible i would like to learn to use it
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There are some sites that sell computers with Linux pre-installed.
Here's one:
http://linuxpreloaded.com/

abcdfv said:
There are some sites that sell computers with Linux pre-installed.
Here's one:
http://linuxpreloaded.com/
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thanks,ill start looking

boydroid said:
thanks,ill start looking
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Probably what you're gonna want to do first is ask yourself:
"What do I use my computer for"
There are some Linux distributions specifically designed to work as media servers, as video/image manipulation stations, and basically just about any specialization you can imagine.
If you're answer is
"I just want to use it"
Chances are Ubuntu or Mint is the way to go.
If your answer is
"MUST HAVE THE FASTEST NO MATTER WHAT"
A Gentoo based distro is the way to go.

[Q] [question]Windows 8 on Iconia?

Today at Build Microsoft announced that Windows 8 would launch with ARM support. Does this mean someone could potentially port it for the Iconia to be used in those times when a Window based software is needed but neither PC nor VLC is unavailable?
Please save "why would you want to use Windows" comments. This is a mature developer website, send those comments to Engadget.

brady.wassam said:
Today at Build Microsoft announced that Windows 8 would launch with ARM support. Does this mean someone could potentially port it for the Iconia to be used in those times when a Window based software is needed but neither PC nor VLC is unavailable?
Please save "why would you want to use Windows" comments. This is a mature developer website, send those comments to Engadget.
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This being a "mature developer website" has a search function and q&a section. Both would lead you to this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1259742
Anyway, only time will tell if win8 will be ported to the iconia (or any other android tablet). I haven't heard of wp7 being ported to an android phone, so I wouldn't bet on it. Still I can see the potential in it and would gladly try it (especially if it can be made as dual-boot).
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Downloaded and installed the "Developers Preview" of Win 8 last night. Remember this is a pre-beta release, and for certain it's in it's infancy relatively speaking. As of this moment in time, Android has a much smoother interface for touch. Win 8 still feels a bit sticky for lack of a better word. I installed it on my HP Touchsmart TM2 2150 US laptop (core i3 with 8Gb ram), so it's not exactly a slouch in terms of hardware. It's a total touch screen laptop that has a screen that folds down onto the keyboard to create a tablet. As of this moment, Win 7 has a much better touch screen experience, but I fully expect that to change as the builds mature.
There are very few apps that come with it (28 I believe), and no app store as of yet obviously.
I read last night that typical Windows apps will not run on the ARM version of Win 8, and that MS is going to do it's best to prevent side loading of apps on the ARM version to keep people purchasing apps, instead of loading them from a USB stick or SD card, but that is just rumor as of right now.
Long story short, you're not missing much yet.

tkolev said:
only time will tell if win8 will be ported to the iconia
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I appreciate this is in the A500 forum, but the Iconia also comes in a W500 variant which does indeed run Win8:
http://youtu.be/_CNQVk7nok0

twisticles said:
I appreciate this is in the A500 forum, but the Iconia also comes in a W500 variant which does indeed run Win8
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Some of us already have an a500. No need to bring up another piece of hardware. "Yeah your Honda s2000 can fit a Corvette engine, but why not get a Corvette instead"
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I don't think Microsoft will be releasing a beta for ARM chips and we will see Windows 8 run on ARM only during retail. After that XDA will not port Windows 8 simply because it would be considered illegal.

twisticles said:
I appreciate this is in the A500 forum, but the Iconia also comes in a W500 variant which does indeed run Win8:
http://youtu.be/_CNQVk7nok0
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The OP was asking about the ARM version of win8, so I seriously doubt that it is about the w500.
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I installed Windows 8 on my pc a few hours ago. It is very smooth! But my DVD burner doesn't work... Anyway, I would love to see it on the A500.

Here's a preview of Win 8 tablets. Acer's is running an AMD chip instead of a Tegra:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4811/windows-8-tablets-running-on-ti-qualcomm-nvidia-amd-intel-silicon

Windows 8
Windows 8 *might* just support ARM. Everyone on the net is talking about it but no one is really sure. But as for now if you want something similar to Windows 8 there's always WinCE7 :-D Cheers.

masands said:
I don't think Microsoft will be releasing a beta for ARM chips and we will see Windows 8 run on ARM only during retail. After that XDA will not port Windows 8 simply because it would be considered illegal.
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Look at HTC HD2, illegal?! I think no retail arm based version. No retail maybe dev can port. Maybe it is hard to port and that is the be ass.

emo-dudes said:
Windows 8 *might* just support ARM. Everyone on the net is talking about it but no one is really sure. But as for now if you want something similar to Windows 8 there's always WinCE7 :-D Cheers.
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There's no "might" about it. Microsoft confirmed ages ago that there WILL be an ARM version of Windows 8, and recently clarified that it will NOT run native x86 applications. It's conjectured that that .NET applications should run with either minimal changes, or straight off the bat.
It's also been demoed running on Tegra 3 hardware.

FloatingFatMan said:
There's no "might" about it. Microsoft confirmed ages ago that there WILL be an ARM version of Windows 8, and recently clarified that it will NOT run native x86 applications. It's conjectured that that .NET applications should run with either minimal changes, or straight off the bat.
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Pure .NET applications should run just fine as long as they're using the same .NET framework as W8 does, but Microsoft is encouraging devs to use HTML5 for anything simple enough. They're aiming for HTML5 support to be top-notch and W8 and to be all-encompassing.
And yes, I concur with FloatingFatMan: why do people even think an ARM W8 would be able to run x86 binaries? That's just plain stupid. ARM applications will run on ARM W8, x86 applications will run on x86 W8, that's that.

WereCatf said:
Pure .NET applications should run just fine as long as they're using the same .NET framework as W8 does, but Microsoft is encouraging devs to use HTML5 for anything simple enough. They're aiming for HTML5 support to be top-notch and W8 and to be all-encompassing.
And yes, I concur with FloatingFatMan: why do people even think an ARM W8 would be able to run x86 binaries? That's just plain stupid. ARM applications will run on ARM W8, x86 applications will run on x86 W8, that's that.
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There was some rumour that Ms would my providing some transcoding layers as part of the ARM kernel, much like Apple did with the first x86 versions of OSX, but that would be horrendously slow and open the ARM platform to x86 malware.
Pure .NET apps SHOULD run fine, unless MS ship the compact framework instead of the full one. As for HTML5... URGH! (I'm a C# programmer, and after being shafted by MS over first WPF and now Silverlight, they can blow HTML5 out their asses! )

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There was some rumour that Ms would my providing some transcoding layers as part of the ARM kernel
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I know there was such a rumour, but anyone with half a braincell should've realized that it was just wishful thinking from people who don't know what they're talking about.
ARM devices are first and foremost mobile devices so an emulation layer would eat horribly on the battery. Not to mention that I am not aware of a single ARM processor sporting any kind of hardware virtualization features or transcoding mechanisms, so the performance would be really poor, too.
And if Microsoft did make such an emulation layer it would be Microsoft that would get all the blame for horribly low battery-life and poor performance because people wouldn't understand the underlying problem. Microsoft saves themselves a lot bad PR just by avoiding the whole thing altogether.
Pure .NET apps SHOULD run fine, unless MS ship the compact framework instead of the full one. As for HTML5... URGH! (I'm a C# programmer, and after being shafted by MS over first WPF and now Silverlight, they can blow HTML5 out their asses! )
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They're already churning lawyers at full speed from their arses, there's no more capacity for HTML5 there, too.

Plans to Port Windows 8 to Kindle Fire?

First, I know it's a little early for this, since Win8 isn't even in beta yet.
However, I just got a Kindle Fire, and would absolutely love a Win8 port when and if it becomes possible. So I had a few questions for devs that might take up this project.
Is anyone already planning on giving this a shot?
Would this have any legality issues, since Win8 will in all likely hood require a product key, even on the ARM version?
Is it even theoretically possible, since the Kindle Fire normally runs Android?

short answer: no
long answer: the Fire runs on an ARM CPU, while Windows 8 that has been released is 100% x86. Unless Windows 8 for ARM is released to the public - which is looking increasingly unlikely - then there's absolutely no hope. Even if it is, Only the hypothetical beta would be free of charge, and would expire fairly quickly. You would not be able to run any existing x86 programs on W8ARM, and there are rumors (with some evidence) of hardware compatibility that would prohibit it being put on any existing devices. So, even if it could be hypothetically possible, its not worth the effort. and what would you, as a consumer, get out of it, other than a UI you think is cool?

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short answer: no
long answer: the Fire runs on an ARM CPU, while Windows 8 that has been released is 100% x86. Unless Windows 8 for ARM is released to the public - which is looking increasingly unlikely - then there's absolutely no hope. Even if it is, Only the hypothetical beta would be free of charge, and would expire fairly quickly. You would not be able to run any existing x86 programs on W8ARM, and there are rumors (with some evidence) of hardware compatibility that would prohibit it being put on any existing devices. So, even if it could be hypothetically possible, its not worth the effort. and what would you, as a consumer, get out of it, other than a UI you think is cool?
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The ability to run amd64 apps.
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wtf is an AMD64app?
if you mean an x64 app, then um, no, you couldn't. x86 (x64 one name for 64 bit x86 processors) apps require an x86 processor. the kindle fire has an ARM processor. not even close to compatible, with one exception - most new metro apps will be cross compatible between windows 8 x86 and windows 8 ARM (and windows phone 8, if they decide to make it different form Window 8 ARM after all)

mtmerrick said:
wtf is an AMD64app?
if you mean an x64 app, then um, no, you couldn't. x86 (x64 one name for 64 bit x86 processors) apps require an x86 processor. the kindle fire has an ARM processor. not even close to compatible, with one exception - most new metro apps will be cross compatible between windows 8 x86 and windows 8 ARM (and windows phone 8, if they decide to make it different form Window 8 ARM after all)
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You=noob
A 64 bit processor can run in either amd64 or intel64. Microsoft claim that windows 8 will be one big system. They also say that they can get arm to run with amd64 (and intel64) apps fine but they are accused of being unable to do so with i386. I watched the video released by Microsoft about it. All 2 hours....
If you don't know something don't pretend you know about it before posting.
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really, huh. Everything I've heard puts down the rumor that 32 bit arm chips, which don't even approach the power of an i3 (and 64 bit arm chips don't exist yet) will be able to run the high end emulation needed to make an x86 apps (expecially cpu intensive 64 bit apps like most of us use on windows) work..... but that's just what I know, off all the research I've done.
If windows has managed to do the impossible, well, that's great. No sarcasm, that's awesome. But I've read press releases saying it can't be done, straight from Microsoft.
And I'm no noob - been here far longer than you, and been a tech junkie for years.

mtmerrick said:
really, huh. Everything I've heard puts down the rumor that 32 bit arm chips, which don't even approach the power of an i3 (and 64 bit arm chips don't exist yet) will be able to run the high end emulation needed to make an x86 apps (expecially cpu intensive 64 bit apps like most of us use on windows) work..... but that's just what I know, off all the research I've done.
If windows has managed to do the impossible, well, that's great. No sarcasm, that's awesome. But I've read press releases saying it can't be done, straight from Microsoft.
And I'm no noob - been here far longer than you, and been a tech junkie for years.
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Go on wikipedia and search windows 8. Go to the compatibility section and read. Then I want an apology for being a [email protected]
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Wikipedia said:
Windows 8 for ARM processors will not run software created for x86; software will have to be ported by its developers to create ARM executables from source code. [56][57]
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You self righteous troll.

mtmerrick said:
You self righteous troll.
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I'm sorry if I offended you but it's just my opinion fact.
And I'm sorry if your wrong. It wasn't my fault.
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um, you proved yourself wrong - i was right, as i thought. You are acting self righteous, and your behavior is best described as trollish. And im not insulted -I'm laughing at your ignorance. In case you can't see quotes or something weird like that, lemme re-copypaste from Wikipedia
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Windows 8 for ARM processors will not run software created for x86; software will have to be ported by its developers to create ARM executables from source code. [56][57]

benjamingwynn said:
I'm sorry if I offended you but it's just my opinion fact.
And I'm sorry if your wrong. It wasn't my fault.
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1) You are an idiot, your attitude and language is discusting, i'm ashamed for you, and feel sorry for you family being related to such a duscusting little man.
2) There is no such thing as "Intel64", "AMD64" is just another name for x64 CPU's, this is because it was AMD that invented the 64bit insruction, even Intel chips use AMD's technology.
3) You have no right to be here if you are so retarded that you think an ARM CPU is compatible with either x86 or x64 based software.
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wtf with the flameing people? no need to be argueing like morons to each like that. look there will be a version of windows that will work on ARM and the op is asking when that version will be released and portable to the fire. Got it????

AndroHero said:
1) You are an idiot, your attitude and language is discusting, i'm ashamed for you, and feel sorry for you family being related to such a duscusting little man.
2) There is no such thing as "Intel64", "AMD64" is just another name for x64 CPU's, this is because it was AMD that invented the 64bit insruction, even Intel chips use AMD's technology.
3) You have no right to be here if you are so retarded that you think an ARM CPU is compatible with either x86 or x64 based software.
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Sorry for getting you involved.....
Anyway. Back to ideas on porting. It would be difficult as the Kindle Fire is Android based and running on a EXT3/4 filesystem. You would also need a different bootloader - this all involves a lot of work.

i think we should be trying to focus on the hp touchpad and the kindle fire, also the nook tablet to try to port win 8 to them once the ARM verson is released.

benjamingwynn said:
Sorry for getting you involved.....
Anyway. Back to ideas on porting. It would be difficult as the Kindle Fire is Android based and running on a EXT3/4 filesystem. You would also need a different bootloader - this all involves a lot of work.
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Have you not listened to a single word in this thread? You can not port x86 Windows 8 to an ARM processor and expect x86 apps to run.

IF (and that's a big if) windows 8 ARM is released to the public, be it as a prerelase version or as a purchasable version, it'll be quite difficult to get it working on prexisting devices.
As i said before, there are roadblocks involved that may prohibit installing it at all. A W8 arm compatible 'BIOS' will be very difficult if not impossible to get working. It will be closed source, and quite possibly we will not be allowed to have it at all. Drivers will have to be rewritten, and windows 8 may still not be compatible with these drivers. plain old android (or whatever other ARM system) drivers will not work. There is also talk of Microsoft coding the OS as to not function with non-authorized hardware components (eg, will not work with some screens, cpus, ect) though i do not know how true this is.
Even if ARM is released to the public, and not available to OEMs only, don't expect to be able to do much to it - microsoft does not look kindly towards the modding community, and will be taking steps to hinder any changes we may need to make to the OS to get it to run.
The answer is, its unlikely at best.

mtmerrick said:
IF (and that's a big if) windows 8 ARM is released to the public, be it as a prerelase version or as a purchasable version, it'll be quite difficult to get it working on prexisting devices.
As i said before, there are roadblocks involved that may prohibit installing it at all. A W8 arm compatible 'BIOS' will be very difficult if not impossible to get working. It will be closed source, and quite possibly we will not be allowed to have it at all. Drivers will have to be rewritten, and windows 8 may still not be compatible with these drivers. plain old android (or whatever other ARM system) drivers will not work. There is also talk of Microsoft coding the OS as to not function with non-authorized hardware components (eg, will not work with some screens, cpus, ect) though i do not know how true this is.
Even if ARM is released to the public, and not available to OEMs only, don't expect to be able to do much to it - microsoft does not look kindly towards the modding community, and will be taking steps to hinder any changes we may need to make to the OS to get it to run.
The answer is, its unlikely at best.
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It will be released to buy. It's not open-source, because of this it is unlikely... but possible

benjamingwynn said:
It will be released to buy. It's not open-source, because of this it is unlikely... but possible
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If you dont have the source code then best wishes to you coding drivers for ARM windows 8.

johnston9234 said:
If you dont have the source code then best wishes to you coding drivers for ARM windows 8.
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I don't need to. I'm not doing it. I came here to help and most of you threw that back in my face. I'm not here to flame.
I thought I could share my experiences with Windows since 95 and help you find hope for your kindle. If you don't want it then it's your loss. I don't have a kindle fire but I thought I should try to help you out anyway.
I can't help you with your problems unless you let me. I CAN code in a variety of different languages including C+ +, meaning I could easily pick up a arm driver for a sister device and port it.
Thanks for letting me voice my opinion. If you didn't like it then go tell someone who gives two....

A few road blocks against w8 on the fire
1) Storage: Will it actually fit in 8gig? Hopefully the arm version will without all the old bloat
2) Drivers: you are not going to see any windows8 tablet comes out with the "old" OMAP4430, they are talking about windows 8 tablets being quad core with 2gig of ram or something?
3) Ram: 512meg of ram will make running w8, if you even can get it to run, painful
4) Closed source: porting binary only OS's is hard/near imposable without a comparable device with a native version (See HD2 having almost the same hardware as WP7 and android devices).
I wouldnt bet against a port, as this is XDA, but I would consider it highly improbable.
(Also theres legal issues, MS would come down like a hammer on anyone sharing a w8 rom!)

[Q] windows 8 on androoid

Would it be possible to use windows 8 on our android phone like we made ubuntu work? or even make it a custom rom??
With ubuntu we pretty much just mount the .img and connect to it with vnc right? couldnt we do the same with the dev. preveiw of windows 8?

Certainly hope so. There is always virtual machines.

Or you can install teamviewer like some dumb people pretent to use windows on iPad and iPhone

This would be fun to mess around with if this could be done.

Well, once/if the ARM version gets publicly released, then it should in theory be possible.

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Well, once/if the ARM version gets publicly released, then it should in theory be possible.
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I doubt it, android uses a totaly diffrent bootloader structure and partition layout to windows based phones, it also uses a diffrent file system, i wouldnt like to brick my nand chip by trying to format it in fat/ntfs
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AndroHero said:
I doubt it, android uses a totaly diffrent bootloader structure and partition layout to windows based phones, it also uses a diffrent file system, i wouldnt like to brick my nand chip by trying to format it in fat/ntfs
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i think so, win 8 is so complicate to install it on an android phone

unless something very unexpected happens, it will be impossible.
read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21264932#post21264932

mtmerrick said:
unless something very unexpected happens, it will be impossible.
read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21264932#post21264932
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trh1341 said:
Would it be possible to use windows 8 on our android phone like we made ubuntu work? or even make it a custom rom??
With ubuntu we pretty much just mount the .img and connect to it with vnc right? couldnt we do the same with the dev. preveiw of windows 8?
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From my perspective,android is still linux but a simplified mobile version..i guess that is why it was possible to port ubuntu to work on it.
As regards windows 8 ,i really think it is impossible due to the hardware specs nd libraries.

Windows 8 hardware specs have been released today and Engadget reported
Controversially, ARM-based tablet users won't be able to deactivate secure booting and (therefore) install another operating system. Clearly that's not gone down well with people -- and a straw poll of our editors agreed
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Source
I don't know what effect that'll have on installing Win8 on an Android tablet but it sounds discouraging.

smitty5569 said:
Windows 8 hardware specs have been released today and Engadget reported
Source
I don't know what effect that'll have on installing Win8 on an Android tablet but it sounds discouraging.
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pretty much that loading android (or anything else) onto a W8ARM tablet will be near impossible

Zibams said:
From my perspective,android is still linux but a simplified mobile version..i guess that is why it was possible to port ubuntu to work on it.
As regards windows 8 ,i really think it is impossible due to the hardware specs nd libraries.
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i think like you.. android is linux.. remember that

Might be possible after win 8 starts supporting ARM.
Meanwhile have you guys seen windows 7 embedded compact which already supports ARM...is that a possibility on Android phones?!!
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is it
is it happening

it seems to be impossible , coz maybe it needs to rewrite all base drivers, and i wonder if the hardware supports it.
hopeless....i think.

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it seems to be impossible , coz maybe it needs to rewrite all base drivers, and i wonder if the hardware supports it.
hopeless....i think.
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Tegra3 android is one platform already used for windows8 beta arm , which was seen on ces. so its possible, but sure all drivers needs to be made or compiled for arm cpu.
and it is said that bootloader will contain encrypted keys to boot windows somehow, i do not know the complete story here, probably a BIOS edition like on regular pc's.
hopeless, not at all. just look at iMac when it started on x86, we had their OS on non-mac's and their hardware was dualbooting win7/MacOS.

it will be just a matter of time, until someone do that, if you can run windows 95/98 and XP on HTC EVO 3D why not Windows 8?

joao12ferreira said:
it will be just a matter of time, until someone do that, if you can run windows 95/98 and XP on HTC EVO 3D why not Windows 8?
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i doubt thats possible without drivers and an arm compiled windows.
you have probably seen a remotedesktop like SplashTop for android shown.

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joao12ferreira said:
it will be just a matter of time, until someone do that, if you can run windows 95/98 and XP on HTC EVO 3D why not Windows 8?
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As far as i know all this OS are running on virtual machine, so... it's laggy, it works only with standart drivers, so there is no any hardware acceleration. I think some people will keep trying to port Win8, but as other says, it can be very hard, mb cotulla can, he know Win7 embedded core, so it can be like Win8 core. And another one peace - as i know Win8 for tablets and PCs will be same, but WP8 will have another core part.

[QUESTION] Dual-Boot Android on a Windows RT tablet

This will probably be considered a noob question, and I apologize if this is question is in the wrong place, but is it within reason to dual-boot android on a windows RT tablet? The answer may determine my purchase of a windows tablet when they arrive, because I like both android and windows on tablets.
-Dave

Not possible. Windows RT uses Secure Boot, BitLocker and other security mechanisms so it will be extremely hard to break.

A little question to the OP, why?

TravisAntonio said:
A little question to the OP, why?
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Games and previously purchased apps would be my best guess. If there ends up being good android emulation (bluestacks) then I would think that there is no reason at all.
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TravisAntonio said:
A little question to the OP, why?
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Because Android was built from the ground up on mobile devices. Windows went the other way. Obviously Android does a lot of things better when mobile.

AdamOutler said:
Because Android was built from the ground up on mobile devices. Windows went the other way. Obviously Android does a lot of things better when mobile.
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jiffy1080 said:
Games and previously purchased apps would be my best guess. If there ends up being good android emulation (bluestacks) then I would think that there is no reason at all.
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The OP seems dead but thanks for your answers , maybe we will be able to boot-up Key Lime Pie when the times come.

Hmm ... Mine isnt a WinRT tablet as such but i own a ExoPC tablet and it runs both Windows and Android ...
I have tested Windows 8 Enterprise N & ICS 4.0.4 ....
U can find more info here ....
www.exocommunity.com
Regards

Currently you can run Android in a VM successfully on prior Windows editions, I have yet to run it virtually on Windows 8 BUT if you're actually buying an RT Tablet that runs on ARM, I don't suggest you purchase it hoping to run Android.
Good news? Intel is going Mobile and so is the ARM Processor and why is that good? Anyone can make it and not just anyone but Samsung is noted to be making a model FOR Android phones. Why does this matter? It means Google must be up to making Android for ARM and if that is true, I can almost bet that someone will be able to put it on a Windows RT Tablet eventually and that is the keyword, eventually.
So if you have to dual boot right this second? Buy a normal Windows 8 Tablet/Slate, not RT Tablet as they're not as powerful and "Desktop" will NOT be available but if you're not looking for power, stay with an Android Tablet or wait to see what Microsoft will be doing with the Slate.

Or Dual-Boot Android & WindowsRT on Android TABLET? :thumbup:
Time will make it happen.

Maybe run bluestacks in windows 8?

FC1032 said:
Maybe run bluestacks in windows 8?
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Like he said Lol. no need for Android, you have the best or Smoothest UI with BLUESTACK player that can run ALL ANDROID APPS so need for the OS itself. Enjoy!!!!!!!!

akbisw said:
Like he said Lol. no need for Android, you have the best or Smoothest UI with BLUESTACK player that can run ALL ANDROID APPS so need for the OS itself. Enjoy!!!!!!!!
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Read up the title dude, its - Windows RT(ARM)
Yeah, W8 will surely run Android apps via Bluestacks.(X86)
But its two OS on Single TABLET.
Remember ASUS's...tab
JB • XD/\PP

VR.gtmini said:
Read up the title dude, its - Windows RT(ARM)
Yeah, W8 will surely run Android apps via Bluestacks.(X86)
But its two OS on Single TABLET.
Remember ASUS's...tab
JB • XD/\PP
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Oh, I just thought the possibility if it was rather low (even if it was done, probably not going to be too good), so offered an easier alternative.
I mean there are even android x86 projects, just that they don't work that well and compatibility isn't the best over different hardware.
Only time will tell
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lseidman said:
Currently you can run Android in a VM successfully on prior Windows editions, I have yet to run it virtually on Windows 8 BUT if you're actually buying an RT Tablet that runs on ARM, I don't suggest you purchase it hoping to run Android.
Good news? Intel is going Mobile and so is the ARM Processor and why is that good? Anyone can make it and not just anyone but Samsung is noted to be making a model FOR Android phones. Why does this matter? It means Google must be up to making Android for ARM and if that is true, I can almost bet that someone will be able to put it on a Windows RT Tablet eventually and that is the keyword, eventually.
So if you have to dual boot right this second? Buy a normal Windows 8 Tablet/Slate, not RT Tablet as they're not as powerful and "Desktop" will NOT be available but if you're not looking for power, stay with an Android Tablet or wait to see what Microsoft will be doing with the Slate.
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Android has ALWAYS run on ARM chips. Not sure what you're talking about here...

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Android has ALWAYS run on ARM chips. Not sure what you're talking about here...
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correction. Android runs on MIPS, ARM and x86.
ARM is the most popular platform though.

kutysam said:
correction. Android runs on MIPS, ARM and x86.
ARM is the most popular platform though.
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but the assertion that Android has always run on ARM is not incorrect, the first device that Android ran on was ARM.