Android 10 AOSP beta Official Stock Update Queries - Asus Zenfone Max Pro M2 Questions & Answers

So the Android 10 beta has been out for a while. I was browsing through it and I still haven't updated to the beta version since I heard it was very buggy and unstable. However, I am very eager to try the new beta version (released:23/09/2020) since it boasts of lesser bugs and most importantly it says that we can use GPay.
However I am a big UI fan and was wanting to know what features have they released in this update. Most importantly
have they released the new navigation bar?
Also what other bugs should I expect?
Can I use it as my daily driver after updating?
All in all, should I even consider updating since I love stability I use my phone for a lot for my job and everything.
What should I expect if I update?
What is the SOT?
How heated does it get?
Thanks in advance!

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Marshmallow ?

Will there be a official release for android Marshmallow for TN7 ?
Are you sure you want one?
I suppose it would be nice to get something beyond the slightly glitchy 5.1 they released. But 6.0 isn't exactly bug free.
Would be happy if they release a patch for glitchy 5.1. Sent several tweets to nvidia, tegra and someother regarding this. Lets hope for the best.
The Shield Portable people are stuck with a poor Lollipop build too. I think NV is done supporting the Tegra 4 hardware.
They are having enough trouble making MM work properly on the Shield Tablet. The first release had lots of problems. Last week they pushed another update but then pulled it because it was breaking wifi for many people. Ugly stuff. But other people claim it is solid. So who knows. Heh.
Don't know about the official builds but shaky is already working on a custom marshmellow
No developer interested in this device?
I am a noob, but would have loved to see marshmallow or nougat on this device.

Why are there no Android 8.0 Custom ROMs out yet?

If I remember correctly, Android Nougat Custom ROMs were out withing weeks of official release of it.
I'd like to know why there is delay for Android Oreo
TJ_bab said:
If I remember correctly, Android Nougat Custom ROMs were out withing weeks of official release of it.
I'd like to know why there is delay for Android Oreo
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There are some out. They are just in alpha testing mainly. Although there are some daily driver ready ones out. The delay is likely that I think not all the sources and device trees for updated to the AOSP project as quick and all in one go as nougat. I built a rom a couple of days ago and had some issues but after an AOSP update I was able to build an Oreo ROM fine with no issues.
TJ_bab said:
If I remember correctly, Android Nougat Custom ROMs were out withing weeks of official release of it.
I'd like to know why there is delay for Android Oreo
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I just posted this elsewhere lol when a new version of Android drops, custom roms take quite awhile to update.
If you follow specific dev teams, you'll notice they take their time to release after new Android updates. Others, have fewer features or use AOSP, and they'll be quicker to update. Dev teams are testing features, seeing what code is deprecated, what features can be dropped due to low use, etc. A minimum of two to three month wait is normal for some roms to update. If you think they are taking awhile, help them out. Otherwise, enjoy the wait cuz this is a hobby for everyone.
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DEVILOPS 007 said:
There are some out. They are just in alpha testing mainly. Although there are some daily driver ready ones out. The delay is likely that I think not all the sources and device trees for updated to the AOSP project as quick and all in one go as nougat. I built a rom a couple of days ago and had some issues but after an AOSP update I was able to build an Oreo ROM fine with no issues.
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SlimSnoopOS said:
I just posted this elsewhere lol when a new version of Android drops, custom roms take quite awhile to update.
If you follow specific dev teams, you'll notice they take their time to release after new Android updates. Others, have fewer features or use AOSP, and they'll be quicker to update. Dev teams are testing features, seeing what code is deprecated, what features can be dropped due to low use, etc. A minimum of two to three month wait is normal for some roms to update. If you think they are taking awhile, help them out. Otherwise, enjoy the wait cuz this is a hobby for everyone.
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thank you both. I guess I'll have to wait more patiently like I've been waiting for xposed
I was particularly looking for something similar to S-AOSP as that won't be continued to Oreo
TJ_bab said:
thank you both. I guess I'll have to wait more patiently like I've been waiting for xposed
I was particularly looking for something similar to S-AOSP as that won't be continued to Oreo
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Superxe ROM sounds good for you.
Stay tuned for Nitrogen'O'! They have a nice working beta ROM if you can't wait....

7.1.1 or 8.1 HMMMMMM

So I am currently on 7.1.1, and would like to go to the Beta 8.1, but I am kind of hesitant. I have 8.1 on my Nexus 6P, but I didn't put the Beta on until it wasn't my main phone, all went ok.
What are the Pros, and Cons that you have seen?
idbl_fanatic said:
So I am currently on 7.1.1, and would like to go to the Beta 8.1, but I am kind of hesitant. I have 8.1 on my Nexus 6P, but I didn't put the Beta on until it wasn't my main phone, all went ok.
What are the Pros, and Cons that you have seen?
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I'm using 8.1 as my daily driver.
Better than 7.x.
No issues.
Been on betas since the first 8.0 beta, currently on 8.1 beta. No issues.
No issues here as well with Oreo 8.1. And I use the phone quite much. You should always keep in mind that any reports of malfunctions can also be linked to wrong use, wrong expectations or understanding of certain functionalities, or issues during the flashing procedure. The latter will not occur if you do an OTA upgrade. You find such reports and posts in every device section, except Apple iPhone forums because for iPhone users any bug is a feature by nature ... ?
I have a few issues with Oreo 8.1 but not anything that is show stopping. Wifi in certain apps will be slower than using cell data and I have the blue tooth automatic connectivity issue. Both have been reported to Essential and I look forward to the OTA update, hopefully soon.
As an aside, it's real easy to side load your phone, just follow directions or go to YouTube for vids.

End of OS upgrades and maybe security updates support for Mi A1

This is not as question, but as discussion about our phone official support. And yes Mi A1 won't get Android Q:crying: According to Google answer Pixel/Android One phone receive at least 18 month for OS upgrade support. And as today (March 2019) it's already passed. It's about OS upgrades. Now about security updates. According to Google in past the Android One should have at least 3 years security updates support. But on October 2018 Google gave an official mandate about taking 2 years of security updates for popular Android phones (later in December 2018 Google change rules for Android One as well to 2 years). But since Xiaomi doesn't really care about Mi A1, it shows that the end of support is near (maybe 1 or 2 months).
Links:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/724ij3/android_one_update_period_18_vs_24_months_and_who/
https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/18019356/android-security-update-mandate-google-contract
https://www.indiatoday.in/technolog...e-is-deleted-from-its-site-1418261-2018-12-27
Time to move to a custom ROM
At least, means it will get no less than 18 months new OS releases.
On the other side, i think it will sure get the new ''whatever-iteration-may-have'' Q version of android because there will be no major difference in OS and will be easy enough for developers to adapt.
punktnet said:
At least, means it will get no less than 18 months new OS releases.
On the other side, i think it will sure get the new ''whatever-iteration-may-have'' Q version of android because there will be no major difference in OS and will be easy enough for developers to adapt.
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Not sure for it. 18 months has passed just now. I don't have any hopes for xiaomi to make new update, just because they already showed how much quality they put in upgrate of phone (Android pie for exp.) Making android Q doesn't makes them any profit. And in their interest to get customers buy new devices.
Skoll91 said:
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Yep. It is. There are already new march security update out. Customs get it almost instantly. While official there's no any guarantee to even get any further updates at all.
I'm already on LOS. 9.0 push me to LOS 15.1 and I'm sure I will never come back to stock.
Never_Sm1le said:
I'm already on LOS. 9.0 push me to LOS 15.1 and I'm sure I will never come back to stock.
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I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?
Does anyone have a solid official confirmation from Xiaomi that they won't be continuing to support the Mi A1 in terms of major OS updates? I'm thinking about moving to a custom ROM but I want to ensure that there won't be any major official updates coming anymore.
caolan said:
I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?
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you miss a lot, but not need per se a custom rom, is enough root + all the goodies will come with root and customization.
force doze, custom kernel, magisk modules, google camera and so on.
caolan said:
I am on stock. No root. No nothing. And I really love my Mi A1. But every time I see people talking about loving custom ROMs I wonder what am I missing?
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To others, there is a lot. But to me, there is only 1 thing: stock doesn't support Ex-fat sd cards, and the only kernel that offer true Ex-fat support is custom roms only. On stock 8.1 I can live with a Magisk module that support Exfat but 9.0 is the main reason I jumped ship.
The unofficial los 16 by flex is an amazing rom don't let the unofficial bit put you off, it's the perfect daily driver, more customisation than stock but not ott like some roms
I am happy to have gotten 2 major updates, previously at this price point we would have been lucky to get 1, so android 1 program has increased value with updates. I was hoping to get 3 years of security updates, so disappointed Google has changed the requirement, but perhaps Xiaomi will honour the expectations when the device was released.
Even at 2 years I would still have bought the phone, but annoyed if it's changed after purchase.
I currently use Stock unrooted Rom, the first phone I haven't at least rooted, but I am sure the community will keep the phone going for another couple of years at least.
I bough this phone on Nov 2017 (if note mistaken) and I'm quite satisfy with the update from Nougat to Pie. But if you buy the phone later than that you probably feel not enough update (because you only receive Oreo to Pie update) but I believe you have received price drop compare to the initial release.
I prefer stable rather than updated OS. This device is already more than 1 year and new android OS will optimize new hardware, smartphone hardware obsolete very fast compare to PC or other device. There's no other choice if you want to optimize your phone to the latest android OS except buying new phone. I like to stay to the stock rom (with Magisk of course) till the end just to get full experience of Android One. I'm not gonna denied that Android One is a bit mess up either from manufacture side and Google itself. I will probably buy Android One device again in the future (few years from now) and see how much Android One will improve.
Feriol said:
... I currently use Stock unrooted Rom, the first phone I haven't at least rooted, but I am sure the community will keep the phone going for another couple of years at least. ...
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Same here, first ever un-touched stock. I'm still satisfied with this mid-low budget phone and that the OS is (pretty) free from "customization".
It is (was) a good bang for the buck when bought in Nov. -17 and still does it's job.
Features like GCam and similar were never promised or supported so that wasn't an issue for me nor a reason to root...

Stable ROM that still has newer security patches? How important is that?

I'm currently using the Android 9 OminROM on my X Compact. It's updated pretty frequently but so far I'm still frustrated by some bugs and general instability. I'd prefer to use a more stable ROM, because I don't need the latest features, but the only just basic AOSP ROM I see here was last updated more than a year ago.
I'd like to use something more stable but I worry about not having the latest security patches and getting my device compromised - is this a legitimate fear? I do have a desire for some security on my phone.
Are there any ROMs that can just provide a reliable Android experience while staying up to date on important patches?
I am not a developer but I think I can say that to find what you look for, you have to find someone who thinks like you there are constantly new commits. Sometimes they can broke working parts or cause regressions. What you ask requires to pick some commits while avoiding others which is hard to do constantly.

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