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[FAQ]: SGS Vibrant i9000m (Bell), also applicable to other models

Data Connection 2G/3G/H
This phone when used on Bell's own network, it can only do 3G & H
(this is not a hardware issue but rather a network issue, there is a topic about this discussion, link coming soon)
However once unlocked the have full 1G(Cuba!)/2G(EDGE)/3G/H on Fido, Rogers, AT&T and any other network that supports the 850/1900/2100 band for data communication
Pre-installed Apps:
TeleNav GPS Navigator if you are not online via 3G or WiFi, you'll get an error message "This application is not available" or something along those lines
The application is not free, it wants you to register for $10 a month, it's safe to uninstall after rooting
BellTV Remote PVR only works if you have a Bell digital cable box for TV, it's safe to uninstall after rooting
Tunes & Apps it's just an Advertisement URL link, it tries to go
Code:
ads.bwanet.ca/getnew.jsp?request=PDAdownload
the link is dead anyways, it's safe to delete after rooting
TV & Radio supposedly to Watch Live TV, Listen to Music and Talk Radio... but it doesn't work.
It might be only available to people on Bell network, the error messages says
> Error
There was a problem
connecting to the service.
Check your data connection.
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my recommendation uninstall it if you are rooted, there are better Apps in Android Market that offers the same feature & service
Kobo it comes included with the latest official ROMs. You might want to keep it if you are an e-book reader. It channels you to their online catalog of e-books. Depending from each point of view, it can be categorized as another Advertisement or a Tool.
Personally I'll uninstall it (you'll need to be rooted), the only thing I'll ever read in my phone are PDF files, for everything else i got RSS feeds, tons of e-mails/SMS to go through an lots of websites to keep me busy and relaxed.
AllShare a simple to use App to share your files in the phone to other devices wirelessly.
Worth keeping? Yes
Layar is more of a fun tool than a real utility, it lets you catalog and get info of nearby places where you are standing, it requires the GPS to be ON-line. This App is based on the Anime feature in Eden of the East.
Worth keeping? Yes
Navigation Google Maps Navigation, a simple to use Navigation tool that works out of the box.
Worth keeping? Yes
ThinkFree Office requires activation, but it's completely Free as the name implies (unlike other Apps which claims to be "free" but is crippled one war or another, or with Ads.) you can open and create Microsoft Word Doc, Spread Sheet, and PowerPoint slides, all from the tips of your fingers.
It takes a bit to get used to navigating around the software to do what would normally have been a simple task in the PC.
Worth keeping? Yes
Samsung Apps List of available freebies:
- eBooks by Kobo (the other piece of the forced on ROM Kobo eBook Market)
- Social Hub Push Email and IM (as the name implies it does everything, it's quite good infact, it adds additional supported services to the original version, now it can do Google Accounts, Hotmail/Live Accounts, Yahoo Accounts, Facebook Accounts, Twiter Accounts, MySpace Accounts)
- RoadSMS (SMS that lets you see behind the phone, the road or whatever your phone camera seems to be pointing... great App to check out on girls on the restaurant table in front of you )
- Robert Parker (wine guide)
- Radio Companion (i find it rather interesting, it lets you sing karaoke to the radio station you are listening to... well sort of, it will scroll and display the lyrics as the song plays on the radio station)
- Asphalt5 (racing game, full version, completely free, notice this is not the Asphalt5 HD)
- Vlingo Voice (voice control your phone, dictation, launch apps, etc)
- Krazy Kart Racing (from Konami) cartoonish kart racing game, fun!
- Facebook for Samsung the name says it all it's a new facebook apps from Samsung
- Movies App for movie show times, trailers and reviews
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"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
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"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
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- Blinkx Beat
- ComedyTime

You may want to add something in here about Bell's lack of a 2g GSM network and checking if your phone has the download mode disabled or not. These seem to be 2 common questions on these forums about the Canadian I9000M.

Thanks for the reminder, yes this FAQ is a work in progress

The TV & Radio app is worth keeping if you are a Bell subscriber and into the idea. Basically it is a premium app, you have to pay for subscriptions to channels. But you can access content like live NHL games, HBO, etc.
It also lets you subscribe to and listen to Sirius sat. radio.
But if you don't have a 6GB plan it's a total non-starter.

For someone in the United States, where's the best place to purchase an unlocked one? I can't find any on US ebay and only like 3 on CA ebay.

AllGamer said:
... safe to uninstall after rooting
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Silly question: how do you uninstall apps after rooting? (I'd appreciate teaching me how to do that using Root Explorer.)

INeedYourHelp said:
For someone in the United States, where's the best place to purchase an unlocked one? I can't find any on US ebay and only like 3 on CA ebay.
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The states ones are all carrier exclusive, not sure when they'll have unlocked ones available?

Aqua1ung said:
Silly question: how do you uninstall apps after rooting? (I'd appreciate teaching me how to do that using Root Explorer.)
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i do it via busybox or any other terminal app
using command lines:
cd /directory/where/apps/reside
rm WhateverName.apk
there is a topic in one of the 23+ SGS sub forums with a full list of all the Apk safe to remove, but i can't find it because i forgot which of the so many forums we have are storing it
this is why we need this to happen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=764084

AllGamer said:
i do it via busybox or any other terminal app...
cd /directory/where/apps/reside
rm WhateverName.apk
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So is this just a matter of deleting the corresponding .apk file? Or is there something more to it? If the former holds, then how can I tell where the undesired (i.e. stock) applications are located for the I9000M?

found it, here's the topic you want to remove the stuff you don't want
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712546

AllGamer said:
found it, here's the topic you want to remove the stuff you don't want
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712546
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Thanks. Where would I find the apps that you listed as safe, such as Tunes and Apps and the rest? Those look to me to be better deletion candidates.

Look, I know this isn't the right thread to be posting in, but I have a dying question to OP.
How did you root your i9000m? I cannot seem to root mine! Nor can I find a confirmed method of doing it.

roma17 said:
Look, I know this isn't the right thread to be posting in, but I have a dying question to OP.
How did you root your i9000m? I cannot seem to root mine! Nor can I find a confirmed method of doing it.
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follow step one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=747235
and if you want to unlock you phone too
follow step two

AllGamer said:
follow step one
and if you want to unlock you phone too
follow step two
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and you're absolutely sure that if i follow step one correctly, that the phone will be rooted? (Yes I know nothing is sure, but I just need to hear it from you).

roma17 said:
and you're absolutely sure that if i follow step one correctly, that the phone will be rooted? (Yes I know nothing is sure, but I just need to hear it from you).
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those are proven steps that i used on my phones

Before this thread gets hijacked, would you mind answering my question above: Where would I find the apps that you listed as safe, such as Tunes and Apps and the rest? Those look to me to be better deletion candidates.
Thanks.
Edit: alright, I think I found'em. What's tn55-android-blur.apk? The TeleNav application by any chance?

updated
- Krazy Kart Racing (from Konami) cartoonish kart racing game, fun!

Any chance of an apk dump of "Social Hub Push Email and IM" and "Radio Companion" apps? (assuming that they are legal to share, these aren't in my JP3 app store).
I would also ask for Krazy Kart Racing, but pretty sure thats a paid app and I don't wanna break any rules lol..
Otherwise, if no-one can share anything... what firmwares are these apps available for? just the non-beta ones? or just for the bell i9000?

Yes, bell i9000m JH2 is the latest official ROM from Kies
it is compatible with I9000 international, but you will need Odin to flash it
or do the KIES cheat as mentioned in another topic, to make the changes in the registry, so it will download Bell JH2 for you.
But as far as i know, if they are included as freebies inside Samsung Apps, it should also be available to the international i9000 ROMs with Samsung Apps

Thanks for the reply AllGamer
Sorry that I'm a little confused, are the radio and social hub push email included in the firmware or downloadable from the samsung apps store?
Do you know how samsung app store determines phone version? Can we fake this through build.prop or something to download the latest apps, or does it have a more complicated check?
Only cause it seems that the number of apps available to JP3 is limited (and I wanna stick to this firmware for now, it's awesome )

About to buy a Kindle Fire today at lunch.

Hey guys,
I am about to buy a KF here today on my lunch break. I had a few questions though. I see all the steps and downloaded all the tools needed to Root, one thing I wondered though is if you do root and install a custom rom (Which ones the best one to get?) can you still utilize the Amazon Prime and other amazon features that you get when you purchase it?
Which Rom would be the best choice? Something light weight but customizable of course. With full Android market.
Also, I have an evo 3d, and of course it uses my google account to know which apps I bought and such, will all that + my google wallet work for the Kindle also?
Thanks all!

Do It
Buy it, use your free month of amazon prime for about 4 days until you realize that its streaming is more useless than netflix and that the bookshelf launcher thing is more annoying than using Microsoft BOB on a 386DX. Even the amazon reader PDF viewer is total garbage
1. Copy CM7 and Gapps to the kindle in disk mode
2. Root using the Kindle Fire Utility (the only problems you may face are getting the right drivers on your PC), this will burritoroot it, install the firefirefire bootloader and install the TWRP touchscreen recovery
3. When you get to the bootloader, backup first, then flash CM7+Gapps. Login with your account that is tied to your Evo3D. Multiple device win.
4. Without hardware buttons, CM7 has tablet tweaks under CMsettings. Check the box for home button as it isn't there by default. If you are right handed, change from the default to right-side, this will now put the home button in the middle in portrait mode.
5. Set up google voice so you can send/recieve text messages on your awesome tablet (it is way more than a kindle now). GrooveIP for calls if you use a headset with mic built in. Gmail app for push gmail.
6. Install the amazon kindle app for your books/syncing and then adobe pdf viewer
7. Install Google Currents and Pulse if you read the news a lot. Especially if you want to read the news anywhere you won't have a wifi connection, like on an airplane. They both prefetch.
8. Dolphin browser is so much more awesome than silk.
9. Enjoy your $200 nerdgasm in other ways you see fit...

In short, as far as I know there isn't any CURRENT way to use a custom ROM and use amazon's software aside from the SILK browser which is garbage compared to the opera equivalent (Opera Mini) which in turn is JUST as useless because you're using WiFi and not 3/4G... So save yourself the headache and get a full featured browser (I'm personally happiest with regular Opera, but there is of course Firefox, Dolphin, etc)

Just bought mine and rooted last night. I tried cm7 but didn't like how small the apps looked so i quickly flashed ics rom and it's pretty cool so far. The only thing is no sound and no video, but that's not a big deal for me. I noticed too it's not to responsive, didn't really play with it before i rooted, so not sure if it's rom related or just the way it is
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk

If you use a launcher such s Go Launcher you would of been able to change your grid size. Thus making your icons bigger. I will share a screenshot in a bit.

sladehawke said:
Buy it, use your free month of amazon prime for about 4 days until you realize that its streaming is more useless than netflix and that the bookshelf launcher thing is more annoying than using Microsoft BOB on a 386DX. Even the amazon reader PDF viewer is total garbage
1. Copy CM7 and Gapps to the kindle in disk mode
2. Root using the Kindle Fire Utility (the only problems you may face are getting the right drivers on your PC), this will burritoroot it, install the firefirefire bootloader and install the TWRP touchscreen recovery
3. When you get to the bootloader, backup first, then flash CM7+Gapps. Login with your account that is tied to your Evo3D. Multiple device win.
4. Without hardware buttons, CM7 has tablet tweaks under CMsettings. Check the box for home button as it isn't there by default. If you are right handed, change from the default to right-side, this will now put the home button in the middle in portrait mode.
5. Set up google voice so you can send/recieve text messages on your awesome tablet (it is way more than a kindle now). GrooveIP for calls if you use a headset with mic built in. Gmail app for push gmail.
6. Install the amazon kindle app for your books/syncing and then adobe pdf viewer
7. Install Google Currents and Pulse if you read the news a lot. Especially if you want to read the news anywhere you won't have a wifi connection, like on an airplane. They both prefetch.
8. Dolphin browser is so much more awesome than silk.
9. Enjoy your $200 nerdgasm in other ways you see fit...
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All good some extras... 7. Also consider buzz box for news.
Also pair it with a phone, use wifi tether and you have net anywhere. Also you can use GPS tether and use google maps for navigation
Sent from my SGH-I897 using xda premium

Here is a screen, showing how I have set my grid via Go Launcher, for bigger icons.
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"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
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"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
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Well, I have a question regarding the software uses. Say I buy the Kindle Fire.. will I be able to borrow books from the Kindle store if I were on a custom ROM or do I have to be on their stock ROM in order to borrow any books and use that feature/advantage.

to borrow books you have to be on the stock rom - so far as i know - i don't borrow books - the same for premium vod

Or to play it safe, you can use the STOCK rom with a custom launcher like the GO Launcher (shown above by a member).
You can still customize it with a stock rom, which I do it, cuz CM7 is not all that great on Kindle Fire yet (at least from my experiences).
Kindle Fire is great. It's fast, responsive, but the amazon apps aren't all THAT great. Best of all, you can switch between your Kindle and custom launcher at any time instantly.

How do you set up Google voice so you can send/receive texts? I just use Google voice for getting my vmails I don't use it for anything else.
Sent from my HTC Rezound using XDA Premium

Takenover83 said:
If you use a launcher such s Go Launcher you would of been able to change your grid size. Thus making your icons bigger. I will share a screenshot in a bit.
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Thanks! Took your advice and went back to cm7. Its definitely better this time around. Ics is nice, but too many bugs. Plus a lot of apps dont support ics yet. Much more responsive too compared to ics.
Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk

Need a browser (on stock) that can support a flash site for medical school exam prep

Hi, this was a time and $$ sensitive issue - I'm a medical student trying to prepare for my last licensing (usmle) exam coming soon and can't get this website working on my N7 stock (no root) device.
Basically, I can't find a browser from google play store that will work well with this website (it's work friendly safe) below.
http://www.usmlerx.net/USmle/QMax/user/testdrive.aspx?step=2
To see what I mean : (go to above link 1st)
You have to click on Start Test Drive Now
It will then send you to 20 sample questions. If you click on the lower right (red - stop sign to end the exam), you will be brought back to the sample test with answers/explanations - having difficulty scrolling through these.
I have a side loaded Adobe APK (latest version available from adobe site) - scrolling and navigating with a logitech wireless mouse connected via OTG USB Cable (logitech unifying wireless usb adapter).
Unfortunately, they don't have an android supported version - Any help you all could guide me with, would be great!
I don't mind if the app is paid - I will go ahead and buy it... preferably any browser that isn't bloated with ads.
Also tried purchasing Xscope browser and have had some success with it - but the navigation is a bit shaky... and it's causing me to lose focus on actually studying the practice exam content.
Tried using dolphin HD and chrome - no flash support (at least it told me it doesn't work when trying the link above) and firefox (and firefox beta) - the flash content is fuzzy and I can't scroll up or down on the page.

I have Adobe_FlashPlayer_11.1.115.17 installed and I can scroll through the results using the stock JB browser (not chrome, which doesn't support Flash).
Browser: http://db.tt/fYpinveQ
Flash: http://db.tt/bF1Vw8om
Sent from my Nexus 7

Thanks for replying; along with the dropbox links.... I have the last ICS adobe flash installed (from adobe site) -
Regarding that link to the browser... can I install this on stock OS (without root)? Are there any risks (e.g. security) or bugs? Meaning, can we find/get updates in the future on whatever it may be?
I did see a previous thread in the app section talking about AOSP browser, but requires root -

Good question. It's the standard browser that comes with JB. I'm not running the stock ROM (I'm using CM10), so I can't verify if that browser is in installed with the stock ROM on the Nexus.
Go into the apps drawer and if Browser is there, then you are good to go.
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Sent from my Nexus 7

BillGoss said:
Good question. It's the standard browser that comes with JB. I'm not running the stock ROM (I'm using CM10), so I can't verify if that browser is in installed with the stock ROM on the Nexus.
Go into the apps drawer and if Browser is there, then you are good to go.
View attachment 1360526
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Unfortunately, the linked apk can't be installed (as per the notice displayed); -thanks for replying back.
Can any others try that link I posted above or suggest a flash friendly alternative browser to non-root stock users?
Firefox displays everything fuzzy / Xscope browser has this built-in left//right page swipe and I can't scroll down the vertical bar or page without activating it....
The biggest bummer of all is, I can't zoom the flash content text nor scroll within the flash window to read - forcing me to use the vertical navigation bar to the right - again, if you follow the link+instructions on from the OP or below, you can see what I mean.
Appreciate the continued help -
@Billgoss- can you maybe (or someone else) try that link and instruction from OP or below, to tell me how the navigation/scrolling is?
You'll have to:
1. Visit http://www.usmlerx.net/USmle/QMax/user/testdrive.aspx?step=2
2. Click on Start Test Drive Now
It will then send you to 20 sample questions.
3. If you click on the lower right (red - stop sign to end the exam) END BLOCK
4. you will be brought back to test analysis/results page
5. Click "Review Test" - sample test with answers/explanations - having difficulty scrolling through these. This is the most important part - if you click through any question from 1-20 , must be able to read all the explanations to right/wrong choices.
I realize this might not be one of the cool topic posts, but would love to see some of our medical students use other android alternatives like these N7's

Dolphin_Browser_HD_8.5.1.apk supports flash. Do not update it
http://db.tt/TC9BJDag
Flash player apk
http://db.tt/Zk1zuXCz
Sent from my BAKED Nexus

spaceman860 said:
Dolphin_Browser_HD_8.5.1.apk supports flash. Do not update it
http://db.tt/TC9BJDag
Flash player apk
http://db.tt/Zk1zuXCz
Sent from my BAKED Nexus
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Thanks for this again - how do we prevent the update notification specific for an application?
I like receiving the update notifications for other things, but if I didn't update Dolphin - update notification would always remain on that notification bar. I understand you can globally disable updates (never did this), but how does everyone go by this usually on specific .APKs?

sirscrubsalot said:
Thanks for this again - how do we prevent the update notification specific for an application?
I like receiving the update notifications for other things, but if I didn't update Dolphin - update notification would always remain on that notification bar. I understand you can globally disable updates (never did this), but how does everyone go by this usually on specific .APKs?
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Don't think you can if you had root then you wouldn't need to use an old apk
Sent from my BAKED Nexus

I'm currently running stock unrooted (although that's going to change within the next 2 hours).
Flash player works great in aurora (google it because i can't post a frickin link), I've found it to be much more stable than xscope (and free-er-er). No pixelation in the latest build for me and adblocker thrown in is always a plus. edit: i forgot to mention the one limitation. although it wasnt this way when i first installed aurora. you cant full screen flash videos. i just zoom to fit the screen though.
using flash player 11.1.115.17

Strange.
I have stock Chrome and it supports Flash.

U may try xScoope browser. I just tried your test page and everything worked just fine. (don't mention that I didn't understand a single word)
Send from Defy with Jelly in its belly

Boat Browser with Flash side-loaded works fine with your testing site. So far, it's the best browser I've found for the Nexus 7.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.boatbrowser.free&hl=en

Or the skyfire browser

Try :
BoatBrowser
Very quick, clean and professional.
Best of all it has very good flash support.

Amazon Fire TV 2015 Model (aka 2.0)

Just got my Amazon Fire TV and i wanted to make a thread that only spoke about the diferences betwen the Original Amazon Fire TV and the New Amazon Fire TV 2015 Edition (aka Amazon Fire TV 2.0)
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Physical differences between The original Fire TV and the New Fire TV
-Different Fire TV Remote (New Left, Old Right)
-Different Power Adapter (New Left, Old Right)
Differences in Sideloading
ABD Debugging in the Same place, im sideloading KODI using the same method as before. So far it seems everything will work the same.
sideloaded signed-launcher-kodi-15.2-Isengard_rc3-armeabi-v7a.apk, along with third party apps. Everything working correctly
What Works:
I even synced the original Fire TV Bluetooth remote just to check that was still an option, that worked
What doesnt Work:
Llama No Longer works, there goes the KODI Home Icon
FireStarter also is not working, there goes double tab to KODI (workaround)
TV that are 1080i (There is a lot of flicker, you have to change it to 720p)

Did you use adb2fire to sideload kodi?
mejdam said:
Just got my Amazon Fire TV and i wanted to make a thread that only spoke about the diferences betwen the Original Amazon Fire TV and the New Amazon Fire TV 2015 Edition (aka Amazon Fire TV 2.0)
Physical differences between The original Fire TV and the New Fire TV
-Different Fire TV Remote (New Left, Old Right)
-Different Power Adapter (New Left, Old Right)
Differences in Sideloading
ABD Debugging in the Same place, im sideloading KODI using the same method as before. So far it seems everything will work the same.
sideloaded signed-launcher-kodi-15.2-Isengard_rc3-armeabi-v7a.apk, along with third party apps. Everything working correctly
I even synced the original Fire TV Bluetooth remote just to check that was still an option, that worked
Llama No Longer works, there goes the KODI Home Icon
FireStarter also is not working, there goes double tab to KODI
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What is the build number of the OS?

Leinie said:
Did you use adb2fire to sideload kodi?
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no, i did it the old fashion way. but the adb commands are the same so im sure adbfire will work

Claude Koch said:
What is the build number of the OS?
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Software Version: Fire OS 5.0.2.1 (531006320)

Here is the controller from the gaming edition. I'm not going to plug it in until we have root but I'll test the controller out tonight and see how it feels compared to my xb1 and nyko playpad pro.

Ive been going round in circles all night trying to sort both Llama and firestarter, im glad its a wider issue. Hopefully a fix is found soon

mejdam said:
FireStarter also is not working, there goes double tab to KODI
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FireStarter works on ATV2, but not perfectly. First, you have to stop/restart adb debugging after you start FireStarter. This applies also if you reboot to FireStarter.
Also, your adb connect to the ATV2 will have status offline if FireStarter is running. If you need to do adb stuff to your device you have to stop FireStarter.

CiDhed said:
Here is the controller from the gaming edition. I'm not going to plug it in until we have root but I'll test the controller out tonight and see how it feels compared to my xb1 and nyko playpad pro.
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You'll be waiting a long time if you're waiting for root...

I'll be fine, my other one works well. I just wanted to make sure I had one with the earliest possible software on it.

Is there a alternative to llama that works? I've tried the AppStore but it makes too many features unusable.

louisgavin said:
Is there a alternative to llama that works? I've tried the AppStore but it makes too many features unusable.
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No

AFTV2
ldeveraux said:
You'll be waiting a long time if you're waiting for root...
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Shouldn't rbox have this thing rooted by dinner time? That guy is a wizard with the AFTV! (no pressure rbox, just having a laugh)

andrew942 said:
Shouldn't rbox have this thing rooted by dinner time? That guy is a wizard with the AFTV! (no pressure rbox, just having a laugh)
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I don't think anyone can root Android 5. Towelroot (which we used to root the aftv) only works on 4.4 and below.

andrew942 said:
Shouldn't rbox have this thing rooted by dinner time? That guy is a wizard with the AFTV! (no pressure rbox, just having a laugh)
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I really have no interest in the new model. I refuse to have anything to do with anything Mediatek on principle.

jocala said:
FireStarter works on ATV2, but not perfectly. First, you have to stop/restart adb debugging after you start FireStarter. This applies also if you reboot to FireStarter.
Also, your adb connect to the ATV2 will have status offline if FireStarter is running. If you need to do adb stuff to your device you have to stop FireStarter.
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FireStarter has been updated to 3.0, and is now working fine with OS5.

New Twitch App
Can you maybe do a pull of the new Twitch App from your fire tv? So AFTV1 and Nexus Player users can try to install that on their devices.

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Fire OS 5.3.1.0 was the last version to be rootable,
for all Fires except the 7th gen HD 10.
Do not attempt to downgrade. - 7th Oct 2018
FAQs
Manual Update
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/unbrick-amazon-fire-hd-8-10-t3240034
Download Firmware
7th Gen HD 8
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=202144610
7th Gen HD 10
https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=202194760
Currently there is no known root method - 14 July 2017
There is no reliable way to stop updates, without rooting. - 14 July 2017
see https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603 on how to add google framwork/playstore without root. - 14 July 2017

Thank you for starting this.

Buzzing audio noise issue
I've recently bought one of these & it seems pretty good for the money (i.e. £40 on prime day with student discount). I've installed the Google Play Store & downloaded some apps & everything works fine so far. It's mostly being used to listen to music using the Google Music & BBC Radio apps, both of which work fine.
However I've noticed a couple of issues with the audio which are quite annoying. The tablet is connected to my stereo amplifier via a cable (headphone jack to 2 stereo jack). The first problem is when the amp is on but the tablet is off there is a buzzing noise. Secondly, when the tablet is on audio plays perfectly with no buzzing but when whatever is playing has finished (i.e. when no sound is playing) there is silence for some time (maybe 5 or 10 minutes) but then a buzzing noise starts & repeats erratically. However, this noise stops as soon as the tablet screen is switched on. The noise sounds like the tablet isn't earthed correctly but I've used the same cables & connections with my old Nexus 7 tablet without any problem so don't see why this should be any different.
Having spoken with Amazon they suggest a factory reset which I'm holding back from doing as it's taken me some time to set it up & I'd rather not go through it again. However, they did remove the adverts from the lockscreen for free while I was chatting to them which was good.
Anyway, my question is does this sound like a software fault, a hardware fault, or an issue with the cable I'm using. Obviously, if it's a hardware fault I'll have to send it back anyway but it's a pain whatever as I'm quite happy with it otherwise. Also if I send it back does anyone think that the fact I've installed the Google Play Store on it will affect the return.
Sorry for long rambling post but couldn't find anything about this issue anywhere else & appears this is the first question posted in this thread so maybe it's a bit too early to expect anyone to be able to answer from experience yet.
Cheers anyway.

Eagerly awaiting root fix for these!

Blank Home Screen on HD8-7th
I have a Fire HD 8, 7th Gen, running Fire OS 5.4.0.0.
My problem is that my home screen will sometimes go blank. I can swipe down to show the Brightness etc, and I can hit the square on the bottom to see and use any running apps, but the screen that usually shows Home, Books, Video, etc is completely blank. I can swipe down, open settings, and navigate through there with no problems.
I have done a factory reset, and still have the symptoms.
The only things I have done after the reset is install Adobe acrobat from the Amazon Appstore, and install the Google Play Store using these APKs:
edit: I am having a hard time with the forum link autodetect. All of these are on www<DOT>.apkmirror<DOT>com.
apk/google-inc/google-account-manager/google-account-manager-5-1-1743759-release/google-account-manager-5-1-1743759-android-apk-download/
apk/google-inc/google-services-framework/google-services-framework-5-1-1743759-release/google-services-framework-5-1-1743759-android-apk-download/
apk/google-inc/google-play-services/google-play-services-10-2-98-release/google-play-services-10-2-98-230-146496160-android-apk-download/
apk/google-inc/google-play-store/google-play-store-7-4-25-release/google-play-store-7-4-25-l-all-0-pr-145823605-android-apk-download/
Any suggestions? I am willing to try another reset, and try without the Google stuff for a few days, but it seems like lots of people are using this on this tablet without problem.
Thanks,
Ed

EdStokes said:
I have a Fire HD 8, 7th Gen, running Fire OS 5.4.0.0.
My problem is that my home screen will sometimes go blank. I can swipe down to show the Brightness etc, and I can hit the square on the bottom to see and use any running apps, but the screen that usually shows Home, Books, Video, etc is completely blank. I can swipe down, open settings, and navigate through there with no problems.
I have done a factory reset, and still have the symptoms.
The only things I have done after the reset is install Adobe acrobat from the Amazon Appstore, and install the Google Play Store using these APKs:
edit: I am having a hard time with the forum link autodetect. All of these are on www<DOT>.apkmirror<DOT>com.
apk/google-inc/google-account-manager/google-account-manager-5-1-1743759-release/google-account-manager-5-1-1743759-android-apk-download/
apk/google-inc/google-services-framework/google-services-framework-5-1-1743759-release/google-services-framework-5-1-1743759-android-apk-download/
apk/google-inc/google-play-services/google-play-services-10-2-98-release/google-play-services-10-2-98-230-146496160-android-apk-download/
apk/google-inc/google-play-store/google-play-store-7-4-25-release/google-play-store-7-4-25-l-all-0-pr-145823605-android-apk-download/
Any suggestions? I am willing to try another reset, and try without the Google stuff for a few days, but it seems like lots of people are using this on this tablet without problem.
Thanks,
Ed
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Since this thread is pretty quiet & doesn't seem to have any responses I can only offer my own experience which is that I've installed Google Play Store following this thread:
how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603 & haven't experienced this issue. I'm not sure about the source of your apks but if you're getting them from elsewhere maybe try the links in the thread I've given to see if that makes any difference?
You could get the tablet replaced as a factory reset is the standard test Amazon suggest before offering a replacement so if that hasn't worked then it is likely an issue with the tablet itself. If you do chat to Amazon about it is worth mentioning the ads on the lockscreen (if you have them) as you can get them removed for free fairly easily (basically by just mentioning them).

sd_shadow said:
FAQs
Currently there is no known root method - 14 July 2017
There is no reliable way to stop updates, without rooting. - 14 July 2017
see https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/how-to-install-google-play-store-fire-t3486603 on how to add google framwork/playstore without root. - 14 July 2017
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Thanks for the helpful post. Are you aware of a dedicated thread (or other place) where dev-minded individuals working with the hd fire 7th gen may frolic in efforts to root/unlock bootloader? At least a list of known potential exploits etc? I had no trouble finding such resources for my Note 4. I don't expect to have time to really dig in - but I might contribute in small ways.
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EdStokes said:
Any suggestions? I am willing to try another reset, and try without the Google stuff for a few days, but it seems like lots of people are using this on this tablet without problem.
Thanks,
Ed
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A couple thoughts-
-the steps must be followed in order on that post or things night get wonky.
-are you using the stock launcher or something else? I had similar issues with launcherpro. Did you start to follow the instructions on how to change your launcher perhaps?
-I had better luck when installing the apks from my device instead of sideloading. I have some ideas as to why, but that doesn't matter in this post.
-Do you have a particular setting that is synchronizing after you log in? You night try turning off app sync and backup and then clearing the data/cache for the launcher app.
Perhaps the easiest solution is to change your launcher app to something nicer. I've been using Nova (pretty standard launcher replacement) and it works great.

Blank Home Screen - resolution
Thank you all for your advice.
Here is what worked for me:
I uninstalled the Google Play store from my home screen, then reinstalled all four apks from my SD Card. I don't know why this worked, because I thought I did that before. Maybe I installed directly from the APK website, I don't know, but I have not seen the blank home screen I described above since.
By this time, I had already talked to Amazon, and their policy seemed to be "Blank screen after system restore? Ship him a replacement." So now I am returning a probably perfect HD8 to Amazon. <shrug>
Thanks, again, and I am looking forward to when you geniuses figure out how to root the HD8.
Ed

Hey I just ordered my HD 8 2017 and I'm worried I won't be able to stream to my chromecast. I use plex and netflix and something else I should maybe not mention, but I just wanted to make sure I could use this stuff because it's like 50% of what I plan on using it for.

staythepath said:
Hey I just ordered my HD 8 2017 and I'm worried I won't be able to stream to my chromecast. I use plex and netflix and something else I should maybe not mention, but I just wanted to make sure I could use this stuff because it's like 50% of what I plan on using it for.
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I haven't tried using mine to stream to other devices, but after installing the Google App Store (see other posts above), I've watched Netflix and have watched content streamed from my home PC using Plex. No issues so far.

Hey guys, anyone is having issues with the YouTube app crashing while viewing the subscriptions tab or having heavy lag? I can't even view that tab without the app force closing itself.

Hi! I'm running Fire OS 5.4 and I've installed the Google Play, Google Framework, Google Home, etc...
but I can't seem to get Netflix to display the Chromecast button, also Plex has the icon, but it's unable to cast to the device.
I like the tablet, don't mind the adds, won't even root it if there is a fix for the Chromecast issue. C'mon Amazon, it's an Android, stop restricting my life...
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staythepath said:
Hey I just ordered my HD 8 2017 and I'm worried I won't be able to stream to my chromecast. I use plex and netflix and something else I should maybe not mention, but I just wanted to make sure I could use this stuff because it's like 50% of what I plan on using it for.
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I'm having an issue with Plex casting to the Chromecast, it shows up within the app, but isn't able to cast to device.
Netflix, I don't see the icon anywhere, not even when you start the play the video.
Hoping there's a fix that doesn't require a root, but I like you would really like to use this feature.

I took my 5.4.0.1 device back to the store and exchanged for one with 5.4.0.0 and used the debloater tool to remove/hide OTA updates, should I block anything other than com.amazon.device.software.ota and com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota?
The ads don't hurt me so I left that but installed the Nova Launcher and Google Services, should I avoid registering with Amazon because of this? Will registering the device with Amazon cause any problems after installing those and blocking updates?

Didn't realize it, but I bought (again) moon reader pro and calibre companion on amazon appstore. I didn't know that they used their monopoly to block installation of alternative book apps from their own store.
Good thing for the sideload though. I didn't think I'd need it but Amazon forced me.

Just purchased a n Amazon Fire Tablet HD 8 7 gen after my Google Nexus 7 touch screen stopped responding, would like to get info off that device but that's another story. The Fire Tablet working fine but I feel restricted with the ads and apps. I would like to make this tablet open some like the nexus 7. What's the best way to make that happen on this devis.

gogo1555 said:
Just purchased a n Amazon Fire Tablet HD 8 7 gen after my Google Nexus 7 touch screen stopped responding, would like to get info off that device but that's another story. The Fire Tablet working fine but I feel restricted with the ads and apps. I would like to make this tablet open some like the nexus 7. What's the best way to make that happen on this devis.
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you can install a different launcher
see
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hd8-hd10/general/using-nova-launcher-to-replace-fire-t3511831
Sent from my PH-1 using XDA Labs

Depending on the fire os version, you can disable several apps, stop auto updates, install play store, change launcher and disable lockscreen adds. Just do a search un the amazon fire forum.
This is the thread.. https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/amazon-fire-utility-tool-bloat-removal-t3641151
Also are included any launcher tool ans you can choose your favorite launcher..

gogo1555 said:
Just purchased a n Amazon Fire Tablet HD 8 7 gen after my Google Nexus 7 touch screen stopped responding, would like to get info off that device but that's another story. The Fire Tablet working fine but I feel restricted with the ads and apps. I would like to make this tablet open some like the nexus 7. What's the best way to make that happen on this devis.
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Thank you, but I saw a thread that was similar to my issue and I called Amazon told them I want to send the tablet back and get a tablet with no Special Offers. They cancelled the Special Offer free of charge. That's customer service!

Did you ever have any issues after doing what you mentioned? I already had one tablet auto-update and really want to make sure the second is safe.
GreenElephants said:
I took my 5.4.0.1 device back to the store and exchanged for one with 5.4.0.0 and used the debloater tool to remove/hide OTA updates, should I block anything other than com.amazon.device.software.ota and com.amazon.kindle.otter.oobe.forced.ota?
The ads don't hurt me so I left that but installed the Nova Launcher and Google Services, should I avoid registering with Amazon because of this? Will registering the device with Amazon cause any problems after installing those and blocking updates?
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