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ZenEXP-Eris - Old thread

Please see my new thread located here.
Mods: If you see this before someone responds to my PM, please merge the replies from this thread into my new one, if you wouldn't mind
Thank you.
PS: Please DO NOT bump this thread. Let it die off into the archives.

Thanks so much for your help!

mwest316 said:
Thanks so much for your help!
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Anytime

hmmmmm why not just go in with hector93 to improve the ROM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671757
unless u plan to go a different direction?

bigslanki said:
hmmmmm why not just go in with hector93 to improve the ROM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671757
unless u plan to go a different direction?
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I agree instead of undercutting another chef, why don't you try something new? Just a suggestion.

bigslanki said:
hmmmmm why not just go in with hector93 to improve the ROM? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=671757
unless u plan to go a different direction?
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Yes, I do intend to go in another direction.. well, a slightly different direction anyway.
Spencer_Moore said:
I agree instead of undercutting another chef, why don't you try something new? Just a suggestion.
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I didn't undercut anybody. I spoke directly to Hector and obtained his permission to post this up before posting it.
On a side note, I felt my post would be easier for other's to read and use, since Hector had only posted a paragraph and a link to zenulator's original Hero ROM thread. He's, since then, copied info from zenulator's post and fixed his post up.

On a side note, I felt my post would be easier for other's to read and use, since Hector had only posted a paragraph and a link to zenulator's original Hero ROM thread. He's, since then, copied info from zenulator's post and fixed his post up.[/QUOTE]
I was just saying. As long as you got approval, then I'm all for it.

Spencer_Moore said:
On a side note, I felt my post would be easier for other's to read and use, since Hector had only posted a paragraph and a link to zenulator's original Hero ROM thread. He's, since then, copied info from zenulator's post and fixed his post up.
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I was just saying. As long as you got approval, then I'm all for it.[/QUOTE]
No worries, Spencer. I can understand how it could seem like I was overstepping my boundries on this one.
-mak

Is there any way you can get rid of the background image on the icons? To be honest they look like the xPhone and takes away from the Sense UI, which is crisp and clean.

when uploading roms, i suggest using multiupload..
rs gives users a maximum of 10 downloads before killing the link..
just a fyi

xuser said:
Is there any way you can get rid of the background image on the icons? To be honest they look like the xPhone and takes away from the Sense UI, which is crisp and clean.
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I'll definitely look into it
SoCalSpecialist said:
when uploading roms, i suggest using multiupload..
rs gives users a maximum of 10 downloads before killing the link..
just a fyi
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I'm a rapidshare premium member, so there shouldn't be a 10 download limit on my links, but thank you for the heads up

wi-fi not working.

WOW. This looks mighty nice. I wish I wasnt on vacation still and could flash to this. Nice work mang!

Nice looking rom. Not as functional as I need it to be to take it's place of my everyday rom, but it's still nice to look at.

xuser said:
wi-fi not working.
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I found that as well, bluetooth also isn't working. I'll try to repair this for Rev2.
stopxstart said:
Nice looking rom. Not as functional as I need it to be to take it's place of my everyday rom, but it's still nice to look at.
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May I ask what you've come across that isn't functional enough to make it your daily? Maybe I can help..

ok heres a buglist for u ( standard for all ported ROMs )
1 . wifi not working
2. bluetooth not working
3. accelerometer not working
4. notifications not working
5. not all apps showing up in marketplace

SoCalSpecialist said:
ok heres a buglist for u ( standard for all ported ROMs )
1 . wifi not working
2. bluetooth not working
3. accelerometer not working
4. notifications not working
5. not all apps showing up in marketplace
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Thank you. I'll do my best to get these cleared up asap.
Edit: I've asked zenulator for help to expedite the repairs, but I'm still working on fixing these issues..

ZenEXP 0.9.4.2 Port Rev2 is now up, it includes some minor fixes that were pretty annoying in Rev1. Changelog is in the first post.
-mak

.mak said:
ZenEXP 0.9.4.2 Port Rev2 is now up, it includes some minor fixes that were pretty annoying in Rev1. Changelog is in the first post.
-mak
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Just tried your Rev2 and I like it! It's quick and I haven't found a problem yet. Will bt it to my car radio on the way home. The icons are different than I am used to but they are growing on me...sort of Ipod Touchish. Good job!

It appears as though your extra downloads aren't signed...at least that is the message I got when I tried to flash.

RootMyDroid.co.uk - ThinkTank / Beta Testing

Just a quick note to say that http://rootmydroid.co.uk is in development now, with the aim to be n00b friendly guides (Like www.roothtchero.co.uk) and ROM news.
The Hero guide has been successfully ported over, and I would like your feedback on the site. What should I do? What sould I not do?
The other thing that makes the site special is the Help section. Users can get live support from me or send me an email. This way we can help lots of n00bs to root!
If you are intrested in helping out on the live support channel, please PM me.
Thanks very much for all your support & helping me to get www.roothtchero.co.uk through the 1,000 hits a day barrier.

Well done - clear and simple.
You talk about roms at th begining are you going to put the link of the most stable roms 2.1 and 2.2 as well?

cy-rock said:
Well done - clear and simple.
You talk about roms at th begining are you going to put the link of the most stable roms 2.1 and 2.2 as well?
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That's a good idea
I could put a post with a poll on for each device, so people can vote for the best roms.

42turkeys said:
That's a good idea
I could put a post with a poll on for each device, so people can vote for the best roms.
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Definitly...Because lot of users are wondering about which ROms they should put on their Hero.
Which ones are fast and stable for exemple then the link to it.
And also, the advancement od the 2.2 on Hero. Because i think that's wat people waiting for now...They all don't want to install it because its not fully working yet...but they want to know when it will
...keep up the good work -

cy-rock said:
Definitly...Because lot of users are wondering about which ROms they should put on their Hero.
Which ones are fast and stable for exemple then the link to it.
And also, the advancement od the 2.2 on Hero. Because i think that's wat people waiting for now...They all don't want to install it because its not fully working yet...but they want to know when it will
...keep up the good work -
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Yeah I'm gonna be doing some rom / development news, I've done a test article on HTC sense froyo rom that's just come out. let me know what you think.
Also, if anyone is interested in writing a guide then please pm me and I will add you as a collaborator.
Any super cool WordPress plugins I might like? Thoughts on the theme?

Im having issues with accessing the site.
I see your site for a split second then get jsut a page saying
AdBriteRender_59ac0358_b22d_43a4_ad64_d56c9b058e6a(); //-->AdBriteRender_7bfa87ed_b67d_407d_8f9a_4bf2f967d507(); //-->
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jonlewi5 said:
Im having issues with accessing the site.
I see your site for a split second then get jsut a page saying
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looking into this now... Thanks for letting me know!
EDIT: It seems to be a problem with the advertising, I've just implemented it. Give it a few hours to settle.
If it's not working by 21:30 GMT I will disable it.

Not working for me at 23:08 using Win7 and Firefox 3.6.6 but works fine using Internet Explorer.
Ewww! I just clicked on the Root your Desire page just for a click about the site
http://rootmydroid.co.uk/guides/desire/howto-root-your-htc-desire/
I REALLY don't like that invasive pull page advertisement, good luck in making a few bob from the site but that is bad....
Maybe Firefox Adblock plus is the cause, it knows we don't want ads so is showing a blank page instead of the invasive full screen ad.
I think the page is loading okay but a split second later the ad takes over so all we see in FF is a blank screen

chr15gb said:
Not working for me at 23:08 using Win7 and Firefox 3.6.6 but works fine using Internet Explorer.
Ewww! I just clicked on the Root your Desire page just for a click about the site
http://rootmydroid.co.uk/guides/desire/howto-root-your-htc-desire/
I REALLY don't like that invasive pull page advertisement, good luck in making a few bob from the site but that is bad....
Maybe Firefox Adblock plus is the cause, it knows we don't want ads so is showing a blank page instead of the invasive full screen ad.
I think the page is loading okay but a split second later the ad takes over so all we see in FF is a blank screen
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s**t I've just checked and the advertising company was hiding 'full page ads' under the more tab. I will remove it tomorrow.
The last thing I want to do is annoy you guys. I would never put so much advertising on, that's why I don't like theunlockr.com
I suppose this is why we have beta testing...

Ads now successfuly disabled. Good to know the android browser can cope with WordPress emergencies!

Thats better.
Bit late now so I will have a click around another time.
Good work though from what I can see

Video Tutorial/Walkthrough on Flashing Firmware (JG1)

Hi everyone, I made this video to show how to flash the Galaxy S firmware, I hope it helps some of you.
Parts 1-2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpWcM44On88
Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzFE8-jWku0
I will be posting another video on how to flash Paul's r2 rom on top of this JG1 tonight.

Thanks mate, I'll give this a watch when I get home as I'm about to try and flash my firmware for the first time tonight.

tameracingdriver said:
Thanks mate, I'll give this a watch when I get home as I'm about to try and flash my firmware for the first time tonight.
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No problem, I hope this helps people who haven't done this before.

Indeed this is so helpful, as I'm going to flash the firmware for the first time (this is my 1st Android). Thanks.

Many thanks. Easy to follow video.
Waiting impatiently for Paul's r2 rom video.
Cheers!

Nicely done!

Many thanks my friend!
Very helpfull.
Hope more video tutorials will follow.

I might continue documenting the changes I make to my phone if I see it's helping people.

aeo087 said:
I might continue documenting the changes I make to my phone if I see it's helping people.
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yes please do and thanks for your dedication in making us android newbies pro in no time
I wish that more people can do the same and explain/give tutorials by posting videos rather by filling two pages worth of text as it's much easier to learn from visuals than from reading text

aeo087 said:
I might continue documenting the changes I make to my phone if I see it's helping people.
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Thanks! Please do that! It surely helps!

Sorry to be off topic but which widget are you using in the 1st video to get the clock with the weather ?
Is it possible to get this kind of skin free or is it coming from package like beautiful widget ?
Thanks
Nicolas

That one is beautiful widget. If you flash Paul's rom he has the option to include fancy widget in the kitchen. Fancy widget was taken off the market because it looked too similar to HTC's clock widget... So to answer your question, yes, you can get that type of clock for free if you flash MCR r2.

Thanks for the answer !
I found just after my post this fancy widget ( I already looked at it yesterday but in the market and obviously could'nt find it)
I found the apk on the forum ... It's now on my homescreens
I feel like home now

[No ROM here, just instructions] Porting CM6 from Hero

So, I just grabbed the Hero port from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=722122. And then, I did the following -
1) loaded into dsixda's kitchen and selected 'Advanced' and 'port'
2) used freshly compiled AOSP ROM with freshly compiled kernel as base for device (using Android Builder - link in sig)
3) replaced 'heroc' with 'desirec' in updater-script & build.prop
4) changed several lines in build.prop to change 'Sprint' into 'Verizon' & 'Hero CDMA' into 'Eris'
5) renamed 'init.heroc.rc' in ramdisk to 'init.desirec.rc'
6) copied 'desirec-keypad.kcm.bin' & 'desirec-keypad.kl' from planejane into appropriate locations
7) copied 'sensors.desirec.so' from planejane to appropriate location
Seriously. That's all that I did.
What works:
wifi
camera (no preview)
bluetooth (well it turns on, I don't have anything to test)
Market (after the Google bits are installed)
phone calls
3G
touch screen
buttons
lights
SMS
What doesn't work:
MMS (couldn't send)
OC won't work because the kernel I used doesn't have it.
This is really nice for no more work than it takes to port. It kind of hurts me, because I like the idea of compiling from source so much better...
I don't want to step on any toes of people who are doing real work, since I don't plan on maintaining this ROM. (Well, I didn't really do much of anything anyway!) So, hence the instructions above. Roll your own, if you want.

nice work has anybody tried this yet? i can guinea pig if not.

Edit:
Nevermind

gnarlyc said:
So, I just grabbed the Hero port from here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=722122. And then, I did the following -
1) loaded into dsixda's kitchen and selected 'Advanced' and 'port'
2) used freshly compiled AOSP ROM with freshly compiled kernel as base for device (using Android Builder - link in sig)
3) replaced 'heroc' with 'desirec' in updater-script & build.prop
4) changed several lines in build.prop to change 'Sprint' into 'Verizon' & 'Hero CDMA' into 'Eris'
5) renamed 'init.heroc.rc' in ramdisk to 'init.desirec.rc'
6) copied 'desirec-keypad.kcm.bin' & 'desirec-keypad.kl' from planejane into appropriate locations
7) copied 'sensors.desirec.so' from planejane to appropriate location
Seriously. That's all that I did.
What works:
wifi
camera (no preview)
bluetooth (well it turns on, I don't have anything to test)
Market (after the Google bits are installed)
phone calls
3G
touch screen
buttons
lights
SMS
What doesn't work:
MMS (couldn't send)
OC won't work because the kernel I used doesn't have it.
This is really nice for no more work than it takes to port. It kind of hurts me, because I like the idea of compiling from source so much better...
I don't want to step on any toes of people who are doing real work, since I don't plan on maintaining this ROM. (Well, I didn't really do much of anything anyway!) So, hence the instructions above. Roll your own, if you want.
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am i missing the download link ?

rvpartsguy said:
am i missing the download link ?
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He is just giving instructions if you want to try and port your own...Hence, the last sentence.

rvpartsguy said:
am i missing the download link ?
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lol i ported this too .. if anyone wants to check it out ,, let me know

Team edward
tazzpatriot said:
lol i ported this too .. if anyone wants to check it out ,, let me know
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lol nope there just isn't one up . . .
by the way gnarlyc for your own good, you should put a link up or edit the title before the heathens start chewing on your neck =)

Sjflowerhorn said:
lol nope there just isn't one up . . .
by the way gnarlyc for your own good, you should put a link up or edit the title before the heathens start chewing on your neck =)
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Yeah, I thought that NOT putting [ROM] in the title would take care of it. Maybe not...

gnarlyc said:
Yeah, I thought that NOT putting [ROM] in the title would take care of it. Maybe not...
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if ur not gunna upload it , i have a copy that i will , if ur cool with that ?

tazzpatriot said:
if ur not gunna upload it , i have a copy that i will , if ur cool with that ?
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Hey, I just provided the instructions... If I were going to post the ROM, I would make sure it's ok with darchstar. That's just me though. Since it's all open source, it may not matter one way or another.
So, yeah, it's ok with me! I haven't sent my build to anyone yet, so if you ported it, well, you ported it!
Thanks for asking. That's the way to be.
I do have one request though... If you make any more changes, can you post them too? And not just - "v53 - fixed thingy". I really like to see what people are doing, so I can learn how they did it. That's purely a request. You are in no way obligated.

gnarlyc said:
Hey, I just provided the instructions... If I were going to post the ROM, I would make sure it's ok with darchstar. That's just me though. Since it's all open source, it may not matter one way or another.
So, yeah, it's ok with me! I haven't sent my build to anyone yet, so if you ported it, well, you ported it!
Thanks for asking. That's the way to be.
I do have one request though... If you make any more changes, can you post them too? And not just - "v53 - fixed thingy". I really like to see what people are doing, so I can learn how they did it. That's purely a request. You are in no way obligated.[/QUOTE
he knows i ported it over ,he has let me b4 and there shouldnt be a problem
and yes i will
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tazzpatriot said:
he knows i ported it over ,he has let me b4 and there shouldnt be a problem
and yes i will
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Cool deal then. The next thing that I was going to do was change the "Sprint" in res/xml/eri.xml in the framework-res.apk to say Verizon. I had no idea of where to do that until last night when it was mentioned in the irc channel by andrew8806 & conap.
This is really good build. I'm using it right now as my everyday ROM. It will be good for this to be an option for people. It's just not a part of my plan... Muhahaha.
Rock on.

very informative, thanks for editing the title accordingly. =) don't need anymore flames rising. And also thanks for making sure to add the ASK DARCHSTAR part in the OP beings that there was already almost a issue between him the heroc community and one of the eris forum members(you already know who) due to a mixup.

I'm feeling like an idiot but I can't find ramdisk to make the necessary changes, othwise great info as always.

listyb01 said:
I'm feeling like an idiot but I can't find ramdisk to make the necessary changes, othwise great info as always.
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If you are using dsixda's Kitchen, you can go to Advanced and then '15'. It will expand the boot.img out into a folder called BOOT-EXTRACTED, and there's a folder in there that is the contents of the ramdisk and the kernel. Be sure to build the boot.img back after making changes and before building the ROM.
This explains it -
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=HOWTO:_Unpack,_Edit,_and_Re-Pack_Boot_Images

Thanks for the info and the link. I am new to Linux and android development so I am reading every bit of info I can get my hands on.
Sent from my KaosFroyoEris

listyb01 said:
Thanks for the info and the link. I am new to Linux and android development so I am reading every bit of info I can get my hands on.
Sent from my KaosFroyoEris
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Oh, ok. Me too. I just got this thing in March and started learning then. Here are more links that you might find helpful.
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=HOWTO:_Unpack,_Edit,_and_Re-Pack_Boot_Images
http://forum.androidcentral.com/hacking/6037-general-rom-faq.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
http://blog.coralic.nl/2010/01/28/build-eclair-aka-android-2-1-for-hero-from-source/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622916
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...how-build-your-own-kernel-package-source.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6738713&postcount=1
http://www.kandroid.org/android_pdk/index.html
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AcdxIJRSH9ypZGZzc2pxNDlfMjdnazk4OHNxZA&hl=en
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641223
http://adrianvintu.com/blogengine/post/Colored-Logcat-Script-for-Windows.aspx
http://www.androidenea.com/2009/08/init-process-and-initrc.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623976
http://lukasz.szmit.eu/2009/12/making-your-own-rooted-android-rom.html
http://groups.google.com/group/android-kernel
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting
http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers
http://groups.google.com/group/android-ndk
http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform
I also find the G1 Android Development forum quite interesting. Start at the oldest posts and come forward. There's a lot of good stuff in there, and there's no telling how much I've missed by just skimming the subjects for interesting things.
There's a lot to learn. It takes time.

Thanks for the info and the link. I am new to Linux and android development so I am reading every bit of info I can get my hands on.
Sent from my KaosFroyoEris
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Oh, ok. Me too. I just got this thing in March and started learning then. Here are more links that you might find helpful.
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=HOWTO:_Unpack,_Edit,_and_Re-Pack_Boot_Images
http://forum.androidcentral.com/hacking/6037-general-rom-faq.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
http://blog.coralic.nl/2010/01/28/build-eclair-aka-android-2-1-for-hero-from-source/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622916
http://forum.androidcentral.com/htc...how-build-your-own-kernel-package-source.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6738713&postcount=1
http://www.kandroid.org/android_pdk/index.html
http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AcdxIJRSH9ypZGZzc2pxNDlfMjdnazk4OHNxZA&hl=en
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=641223
http://adrianvintu.com/blogengine/post/Colored-Logcat-Script-for-Windows.aspx
http://www.androidenea.com/2009/08/init-process-and-initrc.html
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=623976
http://lukasz.szmit.eu/2009/12/making-your-own-rooted-android-rom.html
http://groups.google.com/group/android-kernel
http://groups.google.com/group/android-building
http://groups.google.com/group/android-porting
http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers
http://groups.google.com/group/android-ndk
http://groups.google.com/group/android-platform
I also find the G1 Android Development forum quite interesting. Start at the oldest posts and come forward. There's a lot of good stuff in there, and there's no telling how much I've missed by just skimming the subjects for interesting things.
There's a lot to learn. It takes time.
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+ 1 on the G1 forum thanks for the post!
Sent from my Eris using XDA App

First successful port done!

listyb01 said:
First successful port done!
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Well done! Did you have to do anything that I did not list in the instructions in this thread? Share?
Honestly, it's real tempting to take yet another detour and make a plugin for the kitchen that will do the steps in the OP (CDMA Hero --> Eris) and maybe another one that's Eris --> CDMA Hero.
I don't think it will take much time to do, and it will make Hero ports even easier for people who don't have the time to dig into things as well as they probably should if they are going to be a dev. (There is a downside to making all of this easier to do...)

I'm unable to open a development thread

Hi, I've made a Magisk Module that enable HEVC video recording on OnePlus 6 and 6T, but I'm unable to make a post in the Development section, how can I solve this?

eathtespagheti said:
Hi, I've made a Magisk Module that enable HEVC video recording on OnePlus 6 and 6T, but I'm unable to make a post in the Development section, how can I solve this?
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Try posting in the Themes section. It belongs there anyway lol.

DarthVader said:
Try posting in the Themes section. It belongs there anyway lol.
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Why should it go in themes? Magisk Modules aren't considered development? Anyway thanks for the tip, I'll try to post in themes later!

eathtespagheti said:
Hi, I've made a Magisk Module that enable HEVC video recording on OnePlus 6 and 6T, but I'm unable to make a post in the Development section, how can I solve this?
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Hi there!
Looks like a fun project you got going on there. Since you're making it for both devices, OnePlus 6 & 6T Cross Device Development seems like its proper home. But you may want to read this first: https://forum.xda-developers.com/newmember.php
Also, please read this as well: https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...evelopment/rules-posting-development-t4004701
Thanks and have a good one
Wrapped with delicious Fajita [emoji896]

DarthVader said:
Try posting in the Themes section. It belongs there anyway lol.
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Ok I've noticed that the Themes section it's also for the mods, now makes more sense
Timmmmaaahh said:
Hi there!
Looks like a fun project you got going on there. Since you're making it for both devices, OnePlus 6 & 6T Cross Device Development seems like its proper home. But you may want to read this first: https://forum.xda-developers.com/newmember.php
Also, please read this as well: https://forum.xda-developers.com/on...evelopment/rules-posting-development-t4004701
Thanks and have a good one
Wrapped with delicious Fajita [emoji896]
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Ok so right now I first need to do at least 10 post to be able to put the project link in the Thread, so I guess we just have to wait until I'm able to use links

eathtespagheti said:
Ok I've noticed that the Themes section it's also for the mods, now makes more sense
Ok so right now I first need to do at least 10 post to be able to put the project link in the Thread, so I guess we just have to wait until I'm able to use links
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Look at that, you're there already! Boy, time sure flies when you're having fun :victory:

Timmmmaaahh said:
Look at that, you're there already! Boy, time sure flies when you're having fun :victory:
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I've also already made the post on themes section :good:, thank for the help