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TP2/EVO speaker swap

I replaced the loud speaker on my evo with an oem i ordered online. It was a very easy fix and everything is good now. As I was putting in the new speaker I started to think of how good my TP2 sounded when I used the loud speaker. It just had a nice crisp sound that I havent been able to get out of my Evo. I searched and found a TP2 replacement and from what I can see, it looks just like it! I am about to order one to try it just wanted to get some feedback on this before i waste money. Why is the sound on tp2 better? Thanks.
http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Loud-Speaker-p/htc737530.htm
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Wouldn't the case itself make a difference in this? The TP2 had a pretty open back panel to allow sound to pass through. Or at least I remember that being the case. All the holes could have been fake. I gave mine to a family member when I got my Evo so can't check.
Might be a better speaker, but I doubt it will ever sound as good.

mobius999 said:
Wouldn't the case itself make a difference in this? The TP2 had a pretty open back panel to allow sound to pass through. Or at least I remember that being the case. All the holes could have been fake. I gave mine to a family member when I got my Evo so can't check.
Might be a better speaker, but I doubt it will ever sound as good.
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You are probably right. I gave mine away also and havent looked at one in a while. Thanks.
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Tp2 had two speakers from what i remember
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Blackcircle said:
...http://www.globaldirectparts.com/HTC-Touch-Pro2-Loud-Speaker-p/htc737530.htm
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It looks like that site has a minimum quantity required for ordering items. Is there a way around that or are you going to order the minimum and resell them?

bill875 said:
It looks like that site has a minimum quantity required for ordering items. Is there a way around that or are you going to order the minimum and resell them?
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I must have missed that. I was only using the site to show the photo. I will find it somewhere else.
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cor4twenty said:
Tp2 had two speakers from what i remember
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If thats the case i guess that kills the idea then.
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They both use the same parts...same thing with the headset speaker
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iitreatedii said:
They both use the same parts...same thing with the headset speaker
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So I guess mobius999 was right then. It is the back cover that makes all the difference.
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Yuppers...different cases produce different soubds
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The sound doesn't look like it travels directly out of the speaker from what I saw when I took my 0003 apart, that plastic gasket makes me thing an attempt to "BOSE" it up...

Touch Pro 2 | TP2 | Rhodium | Speaker
cor4twenty said:
Tp2 had two speakers from what i remember
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I'm not sure if the TP2 has 2 speakers or just 2 speaker ports, but sound is definitely emitted from both holes to the left & right of the camera. (see attached photos) I can confirm it sounds much, much better than my Evo, it is louder and reproduces a wider range of frequencies.
It looks like sound quality on the Evo may have been sacrificed for the dual flash. (TP2 always took horrible photos for me.) If the TP2 and Evo share the same single speaker, the improvements are likely attributable to the case. Perhaps some modifications to the speaker / camera housing and the battery cover could yield an improvement.
If the current speaker porting on the Evo restricts airflow excessively it would lower the volume and could cause additional stress on the speaker itself causing them to fail prematurely and / or sound like crap. I am no expert in this specific speaker technology but at a basic level there is a physical mechanism moving which in turn moves the air (aka sound). If the air flow is constricted it will provide increased resistance against the speaker.

From what I remember the TP2 had two speakers. Not for stereo but for different ranges...one was lows and the other was highs. You could cover up each speaker while music was playing and hear the difference as you moved your finger from speaker to speaker.

dafunk60 said:
I'm not sure if the TP2 has 2 speakers or just 2 speaker ports, but sound is definitely emitted from both holes to the left & right of the camera. (see attached photos) I can confirm it sounds much, much better than my Evo, it is louder and reproduces a wider range of frequencies.
It looks like sound quality on the Evo may have been sacrificed for the dual flash. (TP2 always took horrible photos for me.) If the TP2 and Evo share the same single speaker, the improvements are likely attributable to the case. Perhaps some modifications to the speaker / camera housing and the battery cover could yield an improvement.
If the current speaker porting on the Evo restricts airflow excessively it would lower the volume and could cause additional stress on the speaker itself causing them to fail prematurely and / or sound like crap. I am no expert in this specific speaker technology but at a basic level there is a physical mechanism moving which in turn moves the air (aka sound). If the air flow is constricted it will provide increased resistance against the speaker.
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This is exactly what I gathered after reading some of peoples input including yours. Even if the speakers are the same, I don't think it will make a difference. The back cover and housing are the key I think. Im going to play around with it this weekend see what I can come up with.
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Samsung headphone.

Is it me or the Galaxy Note headphones are not that bad. I especially like the volume controls; makes it easier to listen to music without touching the phone.
Music sounds good. What do you guys think?
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calin75 said:
Is it me or the Galaxy Note headphones are not that bad. I especially like the volume controls; makes it easier to listen to music without touching the phone.
Music sounds good. What do you guys think?
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i think they are pretty good considering they came with the phone.

I just wish they were black. White makes it look kind of Appleish.

Have you guys tried making calls with the headphones? If not, would you mind trying and reporting on call quality, volume, etc.? Thanks!

i LOVED them, my favorite headset, i have better headphones but as a headset these are my fav, i also dropped a screwdriver on the cable a cut the cable on them already, heartbroken, better to have loved and lost

calin75 said:
I just wish they were black. White makes it look kind of Appleish.
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I thing is something related to the Apple/Samsung war

Damn, i forgot, didnt apple patent white already?

dannstarr said:
Damn, i forgot, didnt apple patent white already?
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nah but they do own the patent to iems, headphone wires, plastic, rubber pieces, etc
In fact, they own the patent to sound and electricity as well

ph00ny said:
In fact, they own the patent to sound and electricity as well
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Oops.... my brain just infringed on at least one of their patents....
Seriously though... any comments on call quality (in and out) on the headset?

Thinking of getting a Note, quick question regarding the headset. Does it come apart above the handsfree mic so that you can connect your own buds?
If not is there a handsfree cable I can buy that would do this?

I use them over my Klipsch S4i's cause of the built in controls, and I love my S4i's.

My only complaint is that these headphones are two big for my ears... I have tried to use the smallest that was included but still too big..I Think my ears do not like earphones..

djowett said:
I use them over my Klipsch S4i's cause of the built in controls, and I love my S4i's.
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I take it they don't come apart then, you can't plug your s4i's into the mic section?
If not it looks like this set is in two pieces, any idea if they would work?
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/samsung-aaep433-p24550.htm

steveoidm said:
I take it they don't come apart then, you can't plug your s4i's into the mic section?
If not it looks like this set is in two pieces, any idea if they would work?
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/samsung-aaep433-p24550.htm
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No they don't come apart. As far as those linked working, I don't know either.

its not bad if you haven't tried better headphones or iem's.
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bigmout said:
Have you guys tried making calls with the headphones? If not, would you mind trying and reporting on call quality, volume, etc.? Thanks!
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call quality is fine on both ends!

i had a samsung s2 before and it was really suck. when i get my note, i dont even bother to open it at all. until one day my apple earpiece is spoilt. and then i notice that the note earpiece comes with volume control. the sound quality is so good that the crispiness of the sound is almost perfect!!! OMG!

You cannot plug your own headphones into the samsung pair, it's solid.
Personally I think there is no bass, and for music the sound is dull.
Treble is not amazing as well, I'd cut it, and solder a female 3.5" connector, make it plug-able.

I hate them. I hate earplugs that goes in the ear, so i'm still using my HTC plugs that IMO has better bass than Samsung's.

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LG G2 Audio Quality? Hi-Fi Sound?

Hey all, the audio quality from the speakers are supposed to be a selling point of the phone.. not many reviewers speak about it in the video review or even give an example of what it sounds like... so not intuitive and extra frustrating lol. Does anyone have it and can compare it to the HTC one boom sound quality or the Iphone 4s good speaker quality? Now that i have an HTC One, the only way i would go to the LG G2 is if the audio quality from the speakers hold up to the hype LG displayed at their event. replies are appreciated.

Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.

INCREMENTAL said:
Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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yeah i watched that yesterday... again left in the dark... i was hoping that it sounded close to the HTC One as it's the best audio i've heard on a phone next to the Iphone 4 and 4s. thanks for the reply!

Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.

INCREMENTAL said:
Im with you as no review has done anything with the sound. I will say in this phonearena review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVA7jg1KB-k&feature=youtube_gdata_player that he says although the G2 sounds great it doesnt have the depth the htc one has with its boom sound but that still leaves us in the dark.
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Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
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yeah i was referring to the External speakers and thats a bummer.. i thought they were stereo speakers with two at the bottom... something like the apple has at the bottom of their iphone. I really like the phone from reviews and if the speakers are better than the Note 3 lets say or any other LG smart phone, i may be inclined to get it... seems like no phone is as good as the htc one just yet

stepinmyworld said:
yeah i was referring to the External speakers and thats a bummer.. i thought they were stereo speakers with two at the bottom... something like the apple has at the bottom of their iphone. I really like the phone from reviews and if the speakers are better than the Note 3 lets say or any other LG smart phone, i may be inclined to get it... seems like no phone is as good as the htc one just yet
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I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.

Darkestred said:
I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
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right.. but the reason i'm intrigued is because they're supposed to be really good.. LG had a presentation on the speakers. The Htc one sounds very very good.. it could come out of the box louder but there's a way you can make them louder and still sound crisp. It's second to none i've tried so far. going to something lesser than hurts the mind and deprives the ears when you know there's a better option.

Darkestred said:
I don't know if i'd let the speakers bother you, much. Then again i can't tell you what and what not to do.
A phone will never have audiophile sound from speakers. Sure, we can justify it sounding good because of what it is. I've heard the iphone speakers and i've heard the htc speakers. Yes, for a phone they are great, but that's about it. With that being said, i'd never rock out with phone speakers. They help get the point across, but i'll be reaching for hi-end gear to make those beautiful music notes shine.
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Dchibro said:
Are you talking about audio from the external speaker, or audio out to headphones? If external speaker, I'm thinking you'd be disappointed vs. the HTC One, as the G2 only has a single mono speaker on the bottom right as you face the screen. The grill on the bottom left is the microphone.
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and i was just looking at the phone and it does look like two speakers at the bottom left and right. are you sure?

The Hi-Fi sound is in regards to being able to play 24 bit/192kHz Hi-Fi playback. The only way to take advantage of this is having high enough quality media and using a nice set of headphones. The external speaker has nothing to do with this, and from what I've seen it's not all that great.

emplox said:
The Hi-Fi sound is in regards to being able to play 24 bit/192kHz Hi-Fi playback. The only way to take advantage of this is having high enough quality media and using a nice set of headphones. The external speaker has nothing to do with this, and from what I've seen it's not all that great.
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ooooooo i see what u mean now... that's why they have those different type of headphones that comes with the phone. well that sums it up.. probably answers the question of why no one is talking about the external speakers.. they're just regular lol

stepinmyworld said:
ooooooo i see what u mean now... that's why they have those different type of headphones that comes with the phone. well that sums it up.. probably answers the question of why no one is talking about the external speakers.. they're just regular lol
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hehe, yup. Definitely a cool feature if you like quality sounding music though.

stepinmyworld said:
and i was just looking at the phone and it does look like two speakers at the bottom left and right. are you sure?
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99.9% sure, based on a post I read from someone who already has the phone, as well as the phone's manual, which only draws a line to one grill with the "Speaker" label. No manual is perfect, but I'm fairly confident that a split line would have been drawn to each grill if it had stereo external speakers.

Right side is the only speaker. It sounds better than the GS4, but not as good as the HTC One.
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Look at the Verizon version... It has speakers only on right side.
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No version has 2 speakers, the other grill is the mic.
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The speaker(s) on the lg g2 do sound better than the s3. Can't comment on the s4. The lg g2 is more warm sounding and higher pitched timbre's sound more realistic vs the s3. They are of equal sound volume, however.

It's about as loud as my n4 but actually has more bass, not saying its much, but its more than a n4 or gs3.

i hate the fact that there's a built in compressor/limiter on the speakers, and there's some kind of weird stereo thing going on where it might only be giving ONE channel, rather than both left/right out of the speaker.
i rememebr reading on the international version that there was EQ settings and whatnot somewhere...wonder if we can unlock them somehow? then maybe we can turn that stupid limiter off.

Hey guys...dont know whether this has been asked before but i really dont know if this g2 has 1 or 2 speakers. Cos the sound only comes out of the right speaker. But in the manual looks like it has 2 speakers...can someone help me here? Thanks
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mab71 said:
Hey guys...dont know whether this has been asked before but i really dont know if this g2 has 1 or 2 speakers. Cos the sound only comes out of the right speaker. But in the manual looks like it has 2 speakers...can someone help me here? Thanks
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Right side is the ONLY speaker, though it 'looks like' 2 in the bottom.

LS980 Speaker issue

Can anyone test if their sound is coming from only one speaker(the left one)? when I cover it with my finger, it gets really low, but the other one does absolutely nothing

Hathoid said:
Can anyone test if their sound is coming from only one speaker(the left one)? when I cover it with my finger, it gets really low, but the other one does absolutely nothing
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Don't call me on this but from what I remember reading there is only one speaker in the bottom and the other side is the mic. I think it was just a symmetry thing.

kevinboards said:
Don't call me on this but from what I remember reading there is only one speaker in the bottom and the other side is the mic. I think it was just a symmetry thing.
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Oh, well if it really is that, then it does indeed make sense. Although it just looks weird, because it does look like 2 speakers.

Yup - just one speaker.

billykxda said:
Yup - just one speaker.
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Thank you for the quick replies! Was getting worried, but I'm good now.

Hathoid said:
Oh, well if it really is that, then it does indeed make sense. Although it just looks weird, because it does look like 2 speakers.
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The speaker is on the right side on the LG G2. The left speaker grill is just another mic inside. I think LG made 2 speaker grills for looks and symmetry.
Its like asking Apple why do they have 2 speaker grills on the bottom of the iPhone 5S when indeed it also only has 1 speaker as well which is on the right side and a microphone on the left side. Most people don't know that and assume Apple provides stereo sound with 2 speakers. Its just an aesthetic thing.

For the love of god ... Why Samsung

Why Samsung? Why? speaker on the back? I love the note 4 the only really negative thing I have to say is why the speaker on the back of the device and not on the bottom like my note 3 ? I'm already finding myself laying the phone face down on the beautiful screen to hear any type of music, potentially scratching the screen. Sorry just ranting

Poor you... I wish I had your problems. Nevermind that a cellphone speaker sounds like complete garbage no matter where it's positioned. Maybe you should return the Note 4 and get a boombox instead.

cds36 said:
Why Samsung? Why? speaker on the back? I love the note 4 the only really negative thing I have to say is why the speaker on the back of the device and not on the bottom like my note 3 ? I'm already finding myself laying the phone face down on the beautiful screen to hear any type of music, potentially scratching the screen. Sorry just ranting
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You can edit the mixer_paths.xml and boost you speaker if you are rooted. I know it isnt really fix for the speaker but since you cant physically move the speaker to a new position , its all you really got . For me personally it doesnt make a difference but Im not coming from the Note 3 , Im coming from the GS5 which has the same speaker position.

HTC is the only company that got it right.

siraltus said:
Poor you... I wish I had your problems. Nevermind that a cellphone speaker sounds like complete garbage no matter where it's positioned. Maybe you should return the Note 4 and get a boombox instead.
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Sorry im not a audiophile I guess like yourself, sounds doesn't sound that bad to me the speaker placement was a horrible choice should've just left it on the bottom like the note3 would of been way better than where its at now. Im wondering if they did that because of the finger print scanner.

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HTC is the only company that got it right.
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and lets not forget the moto x and nexus 6

probably so we wont scratch that 20 inch camera on the back! I mean, why is it even poking out like that?!?!!??! its begging to be scratched, get broken if its continuously place on the back /rant

We will see those things on the note 5 lol

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and lets not forget the moto x and nexus 6
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Not having stereo on the X was disappointing but then again not really a big deal on a device that's so small. We'll see how the 6 fairs

the note 4 isnt geared towards sound hence, why samsung doesnt waste R&D on speakers that most people rarely use. I rarely use my speakers on my notes. If im not bluetoothed or streaming, its on silent. lol

The speaker on the Note 4 is clearer and louder than that on the Note 3. Fact.
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cds36 said:
Why Samsung? Why? speaker on the back? I love the note 4 the only really negative thing I have to say is why the speaker on the back of the device and not on the bottom like my note 3 ? I'm already finding myself laying the phone face down on the beautiful screen to hear any type of music, potentially scratching the screen. Sorry just ranting
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You won't scratch the screen from putting it screen down on a table. Gorilla glass is amazing man! I do agree that speakers on the rear suck though.

knarfies said:
the note 4 isnt geared towards sound hence, why samsung doesnt waste R&D on speakers that most people rarely use. I rarely use my speakers on my notes. If im not bluetoothed or streaming, its on silent. lol
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I have to agree there, I feel if i need to blast music they would be attach to some form of speaker lol. other wise, the sound is being stream through my bluetooth...or being stream to my tv lol

I hear there is a patent that stops them from putting it on the front.... Not 100% sure but I guess it's possible. I agree it's stupid being on the back but this Note 4 is a beast. I came from a Galaxy S5.

For me the speakers are perfect since I hold my phone with one hand and two i usually have a finger in the bottom holding the phone up and it used to cover the bottom speakers on my note 3, I sounds good and clear what do you expect surround sound.

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and lets not forget the moto x and nexus 6
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Moto g 2014 also.
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Has any phone ever used the front speaker for calls and system/media audio? I would think it would be pretty obvious to move the back speaker to the front and control the volume with software depending on if your in a call or playing music or whatever.
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The speaker is really the only thing left in the Note series that could really use some improvement. Everything gets incremental upgrades except for the speaker.

the speaker on the back is lame imo, but it does sound very good-so not sure how much I can really complain. It is very loud using speakerphone speaker and the ringtone/alarm. Certainly better than the Note 2/3 that I owned.
the HTC M* is still the best for media output for youtube or other video playback. I still wish HTC would have made a M8 5.97" phone.

The biggest problem with a rear speaker, is that when the phone is lying on it's back, the sound gets extremely muffled. This is especially true when using a case. Horrible, horrible design choice by Samsung.