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The next generation Galaxy Note phablet from Samsung is one of the most anticipated devices of the year, so understandably rumors about it aren't hard to come by. According to latest report the Galaxy Note III will be announced two days before IFA 2013 kicks off - on September 4.
The report also says Samsung Galaxy Note III is said to sport a 5.7" Super AMOLED display, rather than the 6" unit that was most frequently mentioned so far. The 1080p resolution is still expected to feature a Snapdragon 800 chipset or an Exynos 5 Octa processor along with 3 GB of RAM.
Furthermore, the third generation Galaxy Note phablet is said to come out with a 13 megapixel rear camera and will be slightly thinner than the Galaxy Note II with its profile measuring 8mm.
Unfortunately, there is no official word from Samsung just yet, but the IFA 2013 launch seems inevitable, considering the strong competition in the phablet club.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_iii_to_be_unveiled_at_ifa_2013_-news-6327.php
I'm still sporting my Infuse and will be in line for one of these. Just became available for an upgrade.....great timing.
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5.7 and 1080p 99% pentile , with a so so chip that will have the same relative 3D power than the note at 720p.
Skipping to note 3.
Call me again when they launch a 1080p non-pentile with better processor and 6" without bezel to put the frontal samsung logo.
As I feared, the Note 3 will be a minor update to the Note 2. Samsung needs to bring a new phablet to remain competitive in this market segment and so it decided to fit the S4's camera, fit a new processor with dubious real life performance improvement, slightly increase the size of the screen and make it FHD to keep it up with the Joneses. Big deal...
Note 4, please.
This does NOT make me anxious for the Note 3 to be released.
Seems they want me to pay hundreds of dollars just to upgrade to a 1080p display that's slightly larger, and I bet we'll lose A LOT of battery life too (because of the bigger/higher resolution display).
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/07/18/first-alleged-samsung-galaxy-note-iii-images-surface/
Did you guys check this? I hope its fake. Plz samsung change the designnn.
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People will not go for Note 3 for any minor updates. I have seen lots who are selling their good old Samsung and going for Xolo and MicroMax in India.
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People will not go for Note 3 for any minor updates.
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I tend to agree with you. Of course there are always consumers who want to have the latest phone, but considering the price tag and that the Note series consumer is, IMO, a bit more tech savvy than the S series consumer, I believe that the Note 3 sales will be disappointing.
I look at the price of my Note 2 and the price tag of my laptop and they are about the same. When people look at the size of my Note 2 and ask "is that a cellphone?" I always answer: "actually, it is a pocket computer that also makes phone calls", 'cause that's the way I see my Note 2 (and in that perspective, 5.5" isn't too big).
Now, I'm not going to sell my laptop just because the new generation has some minor hardware updates. I don't really need them and it does not make any financial sense to spend money on a new laptop when my current one suits my needs perfectly. Specially in these times when we must think twice before spending our money. This reasoning also applies to my "pocket computer that also makes phone calls", i.e., my Note 2.
The two things that I really miss in my everyday use of the Note 2 is a slightly bigger screen to take notes, browse and read PDFs, and improved sunlight legibility. A camera with better low light quality and an image stabilizer that actually works would also be handy. The Note 3 brings none of this. Hence, I'll save my money for whatever future device offers me the features I really need, Samsung or not.
kersh said:
5.7 and 1080p 99% pentile , with a so so chip that will have the same relative 3D power than the note at 720p.
Skipping to note 3.
Call me again when they launch a 1080p non-pentile with better processor and 6" without bezel to put the frontal samsung logo.
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+1.
I'm really disappointed in Note III specs, I'm already looking for this beast: Sony Xperia Z Ultra :good:
I used Note 2 since the first day it was released, which makes it about almost 10 months old already. And to me, with the direction Samsung is heading by releasing so many variants, S4 Zoom, S4 Active, S4 Snap 800, S4 LTE Snap 600, S4 GSM Octa and so on makes me wanna puke, and I'm pretty sure there'll be at least 2-3 variants of Note 3. Hence, for once, I'm going to the brand that I hated so much last year, but now I've come to respect in terms of developer support and that is Sony. I'll go with Xperia Z Ultra. I don't need the S-Pen since I've used it for less than 50 times, so with Z Ultra, if I need to jot down notes, I'll take some pen or pencil and be done with it.Plus, the ROMs will have less bloatware too :victory::victory::victory: and that's an epic win for me
Or maybe, just maybe, we could actually wait for Samsung to reveal Note 3, and then discus on specs and if it's worth of upgrade.
I don't think I will upgrade to the Note III. I am getting my Note II in a few days, but I have used the Note II since launch date since I bought one for my dad. I am sure we can see a 2.3-2.5 GHz Snapdragon 800 or Exynos Octa Core Processor with 13 MP camera, 1080p resolution, a screen around 5.9", 2-4 GB of RAM (probably 3), 3600-3800 mAh battery, upgraded S-Pen support, a bunch of the S4 features, some unique features for the Note III, non-pentile display too, etc. The only things that I see as an upgrade are the processor and RAM really. The screen resolution is nice, but it is not necessary/ground breaking to have for app usage since devs support many devices. The camera will be amazing like the S4's, the battery life will be compensating the increase in screen resolution power. I wouldn't be surprised if we see three Note III's, an LTE model, an international HSPA+ (N7200), and LTE-Advanced model.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Clearer-image-of-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-III-leaks_id45553
Latest from rumours.
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Alexei Volkoff said:
IOf course there are always consumers who want to have the latest phone, but considering the price tag and that the Note series consumer is, IMO, a bit more tech savvy than the S series consumer, I believe that the Note 3 sales will be disappointing.
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There will be people who always need to buy any model or brand as I do see a good sales being an authorised reseller for many brands, but the market prediction is low on Note 3. Just need to wait and watch..
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There will be people who always need to buy any model or brand as I do see a good sales being an authorised reseller for many brands, but the market prediction is low on Note 3. Just need to wait and watch..
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I cautiously agree.
But at the end of the day, the stats on the final product will make it or break it I think. Every website is throwing out any rumor that they can find, and I'm not believing most of it.
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I cautiously agree.
But at the end of the day, the stats on the final product will make it or break it I think. Every website is throwing out any rumor that they can find, and I'm not believing most of it.
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true, not only website.. even the so called "branded companies" throws a lot of rumors :good:, personal experience!
I also used the Note 2 since launch date (10 months). The more I use it the more i appreciate it for it's battery life, performance and a nice big screen. I never had a phone that I liked this much. I usually own a phone for 2 years so this should last me till Note 4.
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I also used the Note 2 since launch date (10 months). The more I use it the more i appreciate it for it's battery life, performance and a nice big screen. I never had a phone that I liked this much. I usually own a phone for 2 years so this should last me till Note 4.
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I have had this note 2 for less than a month and I love it. Will get the note 3 because I know it will use the new Arm processor. I really think it sucks that Sammy used basically the same from the note 2 except for more ram and two more cores.
When you look at what is everything with Snapdragon quad, you can see how much more performance it provides.
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The mods have permitted us a sticky thread dedicated to discussion other devices. Let's try to focus these discussions there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2376459
Check this out...new gen exynos octa core..3 gb dram...just wait for upcoming note 3
http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a...emory-unit-may-debut-in-galaxy-note-3-1168344
I bought the n9005 note 3 yesterday and, coming from an ancient nexus s, I AM IN LOVE! I don't even need a tablet anymore, this thing is absolutely gorgeous. But i usually keep the phones I buy for 2-3 years and I want the best thing available. So, how much better will the s5 be in terms of performance? I already use this phone in power saving mode all the time and like I said, it is flying. I don't think I can ever go to a smaller screen size now.
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I bought the n9005 note 3 yesterday and, coming from an ancient nexus s, I AM IN LOVE! I don't even need a tablet anymore, this thing is absolutely gorgeous. But i usually keep the phones I buy for 2-3 years and I want the best thing available. So, how much better will the s5 be in terms of performance? I already use this phone in power saving mode all the time and like I said, it is flying. I don't think I can ever go to a smaller screen size now.
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Note series can't be compared with S series.
But so far to my observation, Note series is always have much improvement from the S-series. You can see since S2 vs. Note 1, S3 vs. Note 2, and the latest one S4 vs Note 3.
Note 1 is the improvement of S2 (design, software, hardware), same with Note 2 and Note 3.
Whichever features you see on the S series, Note series most probably will have also.
The latest one Note 3, it gets all the S4 features, plus additional Air command, because we have the S-pen.
So if you want to compare, don't compare Note 3 with S5. compare it with next release Note 4.
Cheers.
@antique_sonic no note is much better then s4. I have both of them the speed and screen quality on note is much higher. I think he wants a comparision in specs and speed. And note 3 is a phone today which I think will support all latest apps till 1 or 2 years.
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I bought the n9005 note 3 yesterday and, coming from an ancient nexus s, I AM IN LOVE! I don't even need a tablet anymore, this thing is absolutely gorgeous. But i usually keep the phones I buy for 2-3 years and I want the best thing available. So, how much better will the s5 be in terms of performance? I already use this phone in power saving mode all the time and like I said, it is flying. I don't think I can ever go to a smaller screen size now.
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The S5 is all hype and nothing useful apart from being waterproof in case you're planning to drop your phone in the toilet. And all you get from that waterproofing is a car kit headache.
No 32gb model in most markets. No 3gb RAM either. I just bought the Note 3 because the above plus the stylus and the lower price at much more attractive!
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The S5 is all hype and nothing useful apart from being waterproof in case you're planning to drop your phone in the toilet. And all you get from that waterproofing is a car kit headache.
No 32gb model in most markets. No 3gb RAM either. I just bought the Note 3 because the above plus the stylus and the lower price at much more attractive!
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o yeah. agree. The stylus S-pen make it more sexy and useful compare to S-series
hahihauhehehahehehoha.
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@antique_sonic no note is much better then s4. I have both of them the speed and screen quality on note is much higher. I think he wants a comparision in specs and speed. And note 3 is a phone today which I think will support all latest apps till 1 or 2 years.
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agree. The speed is much higher on Note series compare to S series. :good:
and to be frank, everything is much better than S-series (at least from what I feel).
The Note 3 is still ahead in terms of hardware compared to the S5. All the S5 has is that it's waterproof (There are cases for that, or Liquipel will add a waterproof coating if you're in the US), and a heart rate scanner (There are apps for the Note 3 that are accurate and use the camera flash.)
In return, the Note 3 has
3GB RAM(S5=2GB),
An Spen,
5.7" screen (S5=5.1"),
3200Mah battery (S5=2800),
32 and 64GB ROM (S5=16&32, and we all know the 32GB is going to be impossible to buy. As usual.)
In my personal opinion (as a designer) it looks better,
Better optimized for productive usage (Action menu, popup windows, multiscreen.)
And it costs less.
If the S5 had been what it had been rumoured to be, it would be worth considering an S5. As it turns out, no such thing.
The S5 is a dressed down Note 3. Don't waste your money on it.
If I may... you are all surely being a little biased in saying that the Note 3 is "ahead of the S5 in hardware" and the "S5 is all hype" and in doing so completely overlook things like the Snapdragon 801 vs 800 and the improved camera (not only the extra MP but the new ISOCELL tech). The new processor, together with the smaller screen, may negate the smaller battery. As regards the S-Pen, I have heard from more than one person that after the novelty of the first few weeks the pen just stays in place and is rarely used. Wireless charging has not yet become a must have but having not tried it yet myself I'm intrigued to do so. Does the Note have that too?
And this is not coming from someone who owns a Note 3 and is trying to defend it. I am currently making the choice between the two at the moment as an upgrade to my S3 and do not see it being as clear cut as some above make it out to be. The only thing that really has me favouring the Note 3 is the 3GB RAM.
S5 is just so ugly and it looks like a plaster.
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If I may... you are all surely being a little biased in saying that the Note 3 is "ahead of the S5 in hardware" and the "S5 is all hype" and in doing so completely overlook things like the Snapdragon 801 vs 800 and the improved camera (not only the extra MP but the new ISOCELL tech). The new processor, together with the smaller screen, may negate the smaller battery. As regards the S-Pen, I have heard from more than one person that after the novelty of the first few weeks the pen just stays in place and is rarely used. Wireless charging has not yet become a must have but having not tried it yet myself I'm intrigued to do so. Does the Note have that too?
And this is not coming from someone who owns a Note 3 and is trying to defend it. I am currently making the choice between the two at the moment as an upgrade to my S3 and do not see it being as clear cut as some above make it out to be. The only thing that really has me favouring the Note 3 is the 3GB RAM.
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Yes, the Note 3 has an available official wireless charging back cover and kit. Even the S4 has it.
The additional megapixels and the ISOCELL technology is going to do sod all on a 1/2.6'' sensor... Bandages on an open wound.
The 801 might be a tiny improvement (of the 'Apple-policy' variety) , but it's going to be bottlenecked by the 2GB RAM.
As for the Spen, many of us do use it every day.
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As mentioned I'm still deciding which to get so like to think I'm being unbiased but, with all respect, you're sounding like a fanboy. The reason I say this is your wording (tiny improvement when Anandtech talks about faster Web page and application loads - real world benefits) and your failure to note the increased sensor size when dismissing the upgraded camera, even after mentioning sensor size yourself (1/3.06" vs 1/2.6" )
All of these might be "small" but they are improvements and no smaller than the benefits of the Note 3 that were pointed out.
I found this of interest. We'll need to argue about whether 22% is many or some: http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-often-do-you-use-the-S-Pen-stylus-of-your-Galaxy-Note-3_id53572
The big negative of both, and the thing that would have been the clincher for me, is no OIS on either of their flagship devices. Shocking from Samsung.
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As mentioned I'm still deciding which to get so like to think I'm being unbiased but, with all respect, you're sounding like a fanboy. The reason I say this is your wording (tiny improvement when Anandtech talks about faster Web page and application loads - real world benefits) and your failure to note the increased sensor size when dismissing the upgraded camera, even after mentioning sensor size yourself (1/3.06" vs 1/2.6" )
All of these might be "small" but they are improvements and no smaller than the benefits of the Note 3 that were pointed out.
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I just checked, no bloke bits here.
I do not call 0.2Ghz an improvement. It's the same thing Apple has been doing with their iPhones, adding 0.1 or 0.2 ghz and saying it loads faster.
Benchmarks are rarely accurate in real-life useage. (theyre fun, but not useful) In real-life usage, with several apps open at once, it will not be the case as you run out of RAM fast.
The Note 3 has 2.71GB of useable RAM, with facebook, whatsapp, tapatalk, firefox and a mediaplayer open, even with Apex instead of TW, and all bloatware gone, it's using exactly 2GB.
What do you think will happen if you try that on an S5 with 2GB RAM(usable around 1.7GB, most likely) ? Any gamer, Dev, ITer and techie can tell you loads of Ghz are going to do sod all if you're out of RAM.
And it's certainty not worth 2-300 quid extra!
I did not 'fail to notice' the sensor size. The difference is simply negligible if you know your photography. It's my profession, I know my photography hardware inside out.
Sounds more to me like you've long since made up your mind. No offence, but claiming two negligible babysteps as 'improvements' is more something I would expect from an apple user.
Talking pure money vs value, which is what I was doing, the S5 is simply more money for something you can get for less.
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As far as I am aware fanboy is a sexless term.
I realise you're a self professed expert in all fields but any increase in sensor size is an improvement and at these levels that is a decent improvement. But that doesn't matter in the slightest, it has a larger sensor. Argument over.
Both phones are likely to be on contract at the same price in my country. If not, then price will become a factor. At the moment it's not, I'm assuming the same price.
Do you own a Note 3? I think that answer will say a lot about what is happening here. I own neither. Even if I've "made my mind up" about the S5 I can change my mind...
I mentioned my old Nokia's elsewhere and this is why I miss them. Even the N95 back in 2007 had a 1/2.5" sensor!
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I just checked, no bloke bits here.
I do not call 0.2Ghz an improvement. It's the same thing Apple has been doing with their iPhones, adding 0.1 or 0.2 ghz and saying it loads faster.
Benchmarks are rarely accurate in real-life useage. (theyre fun, but not useful) In real-life usage, with several apps open at once, it will not be the case as you run out of RAM fast.
The Note 3 has 2.71GB of useable RAM, with facebook, whatsapp, tapatalk, firefox and a mediaplayer open, even with Apex instead of TW, and all bloatware gone, it's using exactly 2GB.
What do you think will happen if you try that on an S5 with 2GB RAM(usable around 1.7GB, most likely) ? Any gamer, Dev, ITer and techie can tell you loads of Ghz are going to do sod all if you're out of RAM.
And it's certainty not worth 2-300 quid extra!
I did not 'fail to notice' the sensor size. The difference is simply negligible if you know your photography. It's my profession, I know my photography hardware inside out.
Sounds more to me like you've long since made up your mind. No offence, but claiming two negligible babysteps as 'improvements' is more something I would expect from an apple user.
Talking pure money vs value, which is what I was doing, the S5 is simply more money for something you can get for less.
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Well said mate.
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Well said mate.
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I agree.
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LancelotSA said:
As far as I am aware fanboy is a sexless term.
I realise you're a self professed expert in all fields but any increase in sensor size is an improvement and at these levels that is a decent improvement. But that doesn't matter in the slightest, it has a larger sensor. Argument over.
Both phones are likely to be on contract at the same price in my country. If not, then price will become a factor. At the moment it's not, I'm assuming the same price.
Do you own a Note 3? I think that answer will say a lot about what is happening here. I own neither. Even if I've "made my mind up" about the S5 I can change my mind...
I mentioned my old Nokia's elsewhere and this is why I miss them. Even the N95 back in 2007 had a 1/2.5" sensor!
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That is so bloody typical. Someone makes a comment coming from their own area of expertise and the immediate response is "Oh you're so bloody smart, you know everything!".
Shall I simply state wikipedia as a source from now on? As it would seem that causes a less childish reaction.
I think you will find the comments of the other users more than sufficient regarding 'what is happening here'.
I own a Note 3, yes. Something one could easily have worked out from my signature, which says so in every post I make..
I also own an S4, S3, S2, Note 2 and several other Samsung and non-Samsung devices. What is your point?
"But that doesn't matter in the slightest, it has a larger sensor. Argument over. " Equals "My car is three centimeters larger than yours. It has a lesser engine and a smaller tank, but it's bigger so it's better."
By your logic, the Note 3 is bigger than the S5, so surely it must be superior, 'argument over'?
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As mentioned I'm still deciding which to get so like to think I'm being unbiased but, with all respect, you're sounding like a fanboy. The reason I say this is your wording (tiny improvement when Anandtech talks about faster Web page and application loads - real world benefits) and your failure to note the increased sensor size when dismissing the upgraded camera, even after mentioning sensor size yourself (1/3.06" vs 1/2.6" )
All of these might be "small" but they are improvements and no smaller than the benefits of the Note 3 that were pointed out.
I found this of interest. We'll need to argue about whether 22% is many or some: http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-often-do-you-use-the-S-Pen-stylus-of-your-Galaxy-Note-3_id53572
The big negative of both, and the thing that would have been the clincher for me, is no OIS on either of their flagship devices. Shocking from Samsung.
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Who cares if it loads websites faster? You can see more of the website on the Note 3 screen. The advantage is neutered.
I'm no fan boy either. I've owned a dozen smart phones in the last four years, including s3, note 2, s4, all the nexus phones starting with the nexus one, three HTC phones and a couple of Xperias.
Of all these the only one that compares to the Note 3 is the Note 2. Samsung have hit the perfect size with this series. It's (just) small enough to still fit in (most) pockets and just big enough to make certain tasks that are painful on lesser phones tolerable.
What the OP said is correct - you don't even really need a tablet if you have one of these. I still have one but I may sell it as I only use it once a week if I'm lucky. Samsung envisioned this device as a bridge between tablets and phones and in my opinion they have very much succeeded. If you think the note 3 is a hassle to carry around, it's not. Try carrying around a tablet if you want to experience hassle.
I use the pen just about every day. I jot down notes at work and it saves me carrying around a note pad.
The camera on the s5 is still just a phone camera. It may be better than the Note 3 but you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between photos taken with each device just by looking at them.
Slightly better processor true but less ram and less Internal storage, at least for most people who won't be lucky or smart enough to get a 32Gb model. The note 3 is already so overpowered that it will be good for at least the next two years. Just like the camera no one will be able to tell the difference in normal use.
So the only distinction worth weighing up is this: do you want waterproof and more pocketable or do you want a borderline tablet experience with an active stylus?
I'll take the latter myself as it fits my pockets and I've not thrown it into a pond yet.
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ShadowLea said:
That is so bloody typical. Someone makes a comment coming from their own area of expertise and the immediate response is "Oh you're so bloody smart, you know everything!".
Shall I simply state wikipedia as a source from now on? As it would seem that causes a less childish reaction.
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You have no idea of my expertise. I was not the one childish enough to attempt to "win" a discussion by whipping out my credentials.
I think you will find the comments of the other users more than sufficient regarding 'what is happening here'.
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Actually not at all. I am in the Note 3 section of this forum, I'd expect nothing less than rabid fanboyism. One hundred lemmings marching into the sea does not prove much...
I own a Note 3, yes. Something one could easily have worked out from my signature, which says so in every post I make..
I also own an S4, S3, S2, Note 2 and several other Samsung and non-Samsung devices. What is your point?
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You better have a word with the designers of the Tapatalk app then as sadly your signature does not appear when I browse the site on there. I would've assumed you knew that a world existed outside of PC web browser access to this forum.
My point is that, based on vast personal experience on the subject, owner's of a certain cellphone always feel the need to convince others that they have the absolute ultimate best cellphone. This does not apply to their previous cellphones (so your ownership history means little) as the newest device trumps all in their opinion.
"But that doesn't matter in the slightest, it has a larger sensor. Argument over. " Equals "My car is three centimeters larger than yours. It has a lesser engine and a smaller tank, but it's bigger so it's better."
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Let's recap shall we. I mentioned a superior camera on the S5. You wisely pointed out that pixels alone mean little and asserted that the S5 camera was not superior. I concurred regarding pixels alone and pointed out that it not only has more pixels but a larger sensor too. You then suddenly claimed the sensor size difference was negligible. I am still intrigued to hear you explain why you feel any increase in sensor size can be regarded as negligible. As an expert on photography surely you concede that sensor size is possibly one of the more important aspects of better image creation. But I will happily allow you to explain why you feel this is not the case....
You may also care to give a definitive answer on what percentage sensor size increase we are dealing with as I have an idea it is not linear.
By your logic, the Note 3 is bigger than the S5, so surely it must be superior, 'argument over'?
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I already conceded the Note 3 wins the bigger screen battle and have not argued this. You, however, still feel the need to argue that the S5 camera has no advantages over the Note 3.
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dr.m0x said:
Of all these the only one that compares to the Note 3 is the Note 2. Samsung have hit the perfect size with this series. It's (just) small enough to still fit in (most) pockets and just big enough to make certain tasks that are painful on lesser phones tolerable.
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You cannot state an opinion as fact. For many anything bigger than 4.5" is too big. Perfect for you is not perfect for the whole world.
By the way, I love the bigger screen too. My current choice needs to be based on more than just screen size alone though which is why I am happy to discuss the advantages of each device. I am not of the school of thought that the Note 3 wins in all regards, however, otherwise I'd obviously not be having to choose. I'd have a Note 3 already. My contract upgrade was due from 1 March.
Yawn. Only a retard would be unable to recognise what I wrote as opinion and not fact. Though it's interesting that most of the people who think the Note is too big have never actuality used one. I used to think it was too big and then my friend convinced me if the merits. I tried going back to a smaller phone a couple of times and I can't live with it anymore.
That's not just my opinion either. I've seen several reviewers also state that they thought the phone was too big until they actually used one for a couple of weeks.
Anyway I think you're trolling so enjoy the rest of the discussion.
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Yawn. Only a retard would be unable to recognise what I wrote as opinion and not fact. Though it's interesting that most of the people who think the Note is too big have never actuality used one. I used to think it was too big and then my friend convinced me if the merits. I tried going back to a smaller phone a couple of times and I can't live with it anymore.
That's not just my opinion either. I've seen several reviewers also state that they thought the phone was too big until they actually used one for a couple of weeks.
Anyway I think you're trolling so enjoy the rest of the discussion.
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Pointless engaging you then isn't it...
When push comes to shove it seems most Note 3 owners have a huge problem with the perceived superiority of their beloved devices being questioned. Maybe this is reason enough for me not to own one. But then again I suppose you'll have "retard" S5 owners who will end up doing the same....
Trolling? If anything I am the only one engaging in this thread in the manner in which the thread title seemingly requested. For the rest it seems like a Note 3 fap fest whereas I am actually trying to discuss which is better and in what respects. Although I suppose I should've realised what was coming when the thread title asked the question but the first post went on to express idol worship for the Note 3.
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Yawn. Only a retard would be unable to recognise what I wrote as opinion and not fact. Though it's interesting that most of the people who think the Note is too big have never actuality used one. I used to think it was too big and then my friend convinced me if the merits. I tried going back to a smaller phone a couple of times and I can't live with it anymore.
That's not just my opinion either. I've seen several reviewers also state that they thought the phone was too big until they actually used one for a couple of weeks.
Anyway I think you're trolling so enjoy the rest of the discussion.
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I agree on the part that the size of Note series is just nice as a bridge between phone and tablet.
I used S1 & S2. Then change to Note 1, I love it. When S3 came out, I still bought the S3, coz sometimes I feel that small phone better. But I use it for 1 week, then I let it go. Not because I have money to throw, but, I find it no use to compare with Note 1 which I still own at that time. And then again I change my Note 1 to Note 2. At the same time I bought Note 10.1, coz I thought it would be better to have a bigger screen for work purpose. End up, I always used my Note 2 everyday at work, and my tablet I use it when it is lucky to be used (end up I always need to charge it every 3 days, and leave it dry up again for another 3 days), and most of the time, this tablet will stay sleep inside my bag. With a 1 week only 1 time usage, I decided to sell my Note 10.1 when the Note 3 come out.
And to be frank, this Note series the size is just nice. Not as big as tablet 7" to put inside the pants pocket. And frankly, I can't stand see the smaller size screen again. Nicer to view internet browser on a bigger screen, even if the size of the page is too big for 1 page, you don't need to zoom out until the wording is very small.
Whether this one opinion or facts, I only see all my friends, who has upgraded their S-series, Iphone series into Note 2, now all of them said "those phone are too small", which earlier before they use the Note series, all of them said "you are crazy to ask me to carry such big phone!"
and now all of them are planning to buy Note 3 when they can recontract in this year, without thinking of other phones.
But again, no offense, but someone is asking a comparison of Note 3 vs S5 on the Note 3 forums. I bet that person roughly should know what the answer is
Same thing if someone is asking comparison of Note 3 vs S5 (if this phone has been launched in every countries), I also bet that person roughly know what the answer will be.
Unless.... the phone is really s*cks to the end till no one love it.
if rumors are correct 5.5 inch screen, lighter,thinner and longer battery life plus an awesome camera, good speaker, all features I would luv.....so slightly smaller and no s.pen which i don't use much.....could be tempting?
I'm considering getting the HTC One M9 Plus (or whatever it's called), provided it has a 2k screen (not that I need it), a good camera and a decent battery life.
I personally wouldn't get the S6, I've grown tired of Samsung and the horrible lag with their top end devices; but the S6 definitely looks interesting and I'm sure it'll shake up the 2015 flagship wars.
@thedarkmunk The words HTC and good camera is not possible in one sentence :angel::angel:
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if rumors are correct 5.5 inch screen, lighter,thinner and longer battery life plus an awesome camera, good speaker, all features I would luv.....so slightly smaller and no s.pen which i don't use much.....could be tempting?
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@magichoward Prolly getting both devices again S6 and then the Note 5
Lol to each their own, my camera on my HTC Sensation back in the day was alright. To be honest, anything is better than the crummy Ultrapixel crap; if there is a 20MP sensor (and it might be a Hitachi one according to PocketNow), then who knows? It'll still be better than Ultrapixel!
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Lol to each their own, my camera on my HTC Sensation back in the day was alright. To be honest, anything is better than the crummy Ultrapixel crap; if there is a 20MP sensor (and it might be a Hitachi one according to PocketNow), then who knows? It'll still be better than Ultrapixel!
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Yeah I was indeed revering to the ultra pixel crap , I must admit that my Desire and One X made reasonable pictures. I played with a M7 and M8 of a friend at that was utterly crap (I do like the Sense UI though)
I would not switch from Note 4 to S6. I haven't even read what the rumored specs are in detail, but my Note 4 is brand new and I love my s pen, it's a feature I highly use and the main reason I got it over the S5 and its water resistance.
Should be good phone and likely will get one too (at least for temporary testing - I get phones from dealer/retailer friends that are either reduced price to buy, sometimes free or a phone to use and test for few months) so I'll try it but TouchWiz will still be a problem most of us will want to root and rom to get rid of.
They say they are going to trim down TW and reduce bloat only to replace with some Microsoft apps... Oh yeah, like that is better and like we haven't heard about TW getting made lighter before.
Hardware should be real good so worth a look but keeping my Note for sure.
i will be getting the Note 8 to replace my Note 4 based on my usual upgrade cycle.
magichoward said:
if rumors are correct 5.5 inch screen, lighter,thinner and longer battery life plus an awesome camera, good speaker, all features I would luv.....so slightly smaller and no s.pen which i don't use much.....could be tempting?
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That's until the Note 5 comes out. Which will of course be surpassed by the S7 a few months later. But, alas, the Note 6 will bring it to its knees. Of course, the S8 will have the final word in this war. Until the Note 7 is released [...]
It's an infinite loop.
I don't think it's worth comparing the Note series with the S series. They were never meant to be the same or targeted to the same audience.
If you don't like the S-Pen, then yes, your money may have been better spent on something else. But, on the other hand, who can really tell you what to do and which device you'll be happy with?
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This is so true.. An infinite loop.. Next one to outdo the last.. Just the way it works.. Sure you can compare Notes to S series but isn't apple to apples as different uses and features.
I typically like to compare hardware though..
I think I wait for Note 5 with 4k display.
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No way. This Note 4 is a laggy POS, going back to LG after this. Samsung did say they would make Touchwiz less laggy on the S6,but I don't believe them.
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There will always be a better phone on the horizon, you've just got to take what you can get now. That being said I was holding out for the S6 until I was burgled back in November. They robbed my S4 which was on charge right next to me while I was sleeping. (Scary feeling to wake up and reach for my phone then slowly realise what's happened).
Anyways I needed a new phone and the Note 4 had just been released so I ended up going for it. I'd never considered a Note before. Now that I have it, I have to admit I've been blown away by it. I'm almost (not quite) glad I got burgled. I've broken my S cycle and can happily say I'm sticking to the Note series for the foreseeable future.
S6 ......nope I've gone Note I can't go back.
I actually waited to see if the S6 is any good before buying a replacement for my OnePlus and I decided to get the Note 4 instead because of the following reasons:
* No microSD on the S6 - the difference for the higher memory S6 is almost £100, I got a 64GB microSD for £19
* No removable battery on the S6 - not a deal breaker but it certainly did not help in choosing the S6
* A lot of the apps (mostly for root) does not work properly with Lollipop and the S6 will only run Lollipop
* The "premium" design of the S6 is not worth the increase in price. I always use a case on my phones anyway.
* Going back to less than 5.5" screen is not something I would like
I will stick with my Note 4 until most of the apps I use works perfectly with lollipop, probably several months after the Note 5's release. I never buy a Samsung phone within 2 months of its release as the value goes down rapidly in that period together with accessories. Reviews are also available and bugs are ironed out.
Overall, it looks like this phone doesn't seem to offer much compared to the Note 5 for enthusiasts.
This seems to be a matter of form over function here:
3000 Mah battery, which will probably not last 1 day of heavy use - even less so if you are outside (you must turn up the screen brightness in the sun)
To add insult to injury, no removable battery, so extended batteries by companies like Hyperion are harder to come by and in 12 months, changing the battery (because it doesn't hold as much of a charge) will be more difficult
No SD Card (for people who want to store FLAC and movies on their phone)
Exynos means that this phone will probably not be getting an AOSP ROM (not saying the 810 Snapdragon is perfect, as it overheats, but the larger size of the Note might be able to mitigate that)
Glass back assures that you have to use a case or it will crack (plus it makes the "premium" pointless)
They got rid of the IR blaster too
No features like water proofing or anything else special
Other specs are not a huge upgrade - the Exynos is faster than the Snapdragon 805 on Note 4, but not by much
I guess we should look for alternatives? There were rumors of an LG G4 Note (or Pro) and LG's executives did confirm they were releasing an "ultra premium" (their words) device.
There needs to be an "ultra premium" phablet device other then the note...I thought I would be upgrading but not planning on it anytime soon.. hopefully another company steps up and fills the void samsung just left.
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Overall, it looks like this phone doesn't seem to offer much compared to the Note 5 for enthusiasts.
This seems to be a matter of form over function here:
3000 Mah battery, which will probably not last 1 day of heavy use - even less so if you are outside (you must turn up the screen brightness in the sun)
To add insult to injury, no removable battery, so extended batteries by companies like Hyperion are harder to come by and in 12 months, changing the battery (because it doesn't hold as much of a charge) will be more difficult
No SD Card (for people who want to store FLAC and movies on their phone)
Exynos means that this phone will probably not be getting an AOSP ROM (not saying the 810 Snapdragon is perfect, as it overheats, but the larger size of the Note might be able to mitigate that)
Glass back assures that you have to use a case or it will crack (plus it makes the "premium" pointless)
No features like water proofing or anything else special
Other specs are not a huge upgrade - the Exynos is faster than the Snapdragon 805 on Note 4, but not by much
I guess we should look for alternatives? There were rumors of an LG G4 Note (or Pro) and LG's executives did confirm they were releasing an "ultra premium" (their words) device.
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I got a G4 and it's a beast. Compared to a Note 4 and it's marginally smaller.
Yeah it's a step back and a sidegrade at best.
Amazingly the Note 4, which I have, remains the best smartphone in the world at least for me.
I suspect sales of the Note 5 will be disappointing like the Galaxy S6 and hopefully the Note 6 will be an improvement.
Abandoning Note 4, and not for a Note 5 ...
I too will not go with the Note 5. I'll be watching this thread with interest.
So far I"\'m evaluating between the upcoming Nexus devices (thinking of the Huawei, depending on specs), Moto x Pure (but I prefer to get 4gb RAM due to the large number of apps I use, and the Pure will be 3); LG G4 Pro (but I'm thinking it may be too expensive.
An obstacle for me is I'm on AT&T, and they are pretty much making the vendors make the phones unrootable. (Exceptions out there, but I think those will narrow). So due to need to purchase outside of AT&T, it makes the expense of the phone an issue for me.
Of course I don't think there will ever be a perfect phone.
No IR blaster either :crying:
You forgot the removal of IR-blaster. Wonder what feature they will remove for S7?
Still on my Note 2 and was anticipating the announcement hoping the rumors were false. Too bad, I'm either getting something else or getting a used t-mobile Note 4 from one of the clowns that end up upgrading. The sd card I might live with, the non-removable battery is a complete deal breaker.
I am hoping lack of IR blaster is ....false?
I too am very disappointed with the new offerings from Samsung. I currently have the Note 3, I didn't upgrade to the Note 4 as it wasn't a big enough jump, and the Note 5 is quite disappointing. The non-replaceable battery, no SD card or 128GB phone to make up for this, Samsung Pay will not work with ROOT, and KNOX, makes this another one I will skip. I think at this point I will wait until the new 820 chip powers a nice new phone, before I dump my Note 3.
Very disappointed too.
but not only because the lack of the SD card.
i'm tired of using a heavy device. Almost 180g is just too heavy.
I want something up to 130g.
and, looking back, i'm ready to sacrifice s-pen for a lighter device with no problem at all.
but it has to have sd-card, that's for sure.
you think you got us hooked, Samsung?
wrong! we will switch easily and happily.
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No IR blaster. Last year they touted it and this year not on the device.
Not sure if the Moto X Pure has one or not, but does have:
64GB storage option WITH sd slot (128gb more storage than the Note 5)
Front stereo speakers that apparently sound good (preview event feedback)
Zero carrier bloat
Zero of the infamous Samsung bloat
Case design options
No crack magnet glass case design
The 64GB model is over $300 less than the Note 5 64GB. Moto X Pure 16GB = $400, 32GB = $450 and 64GB = $500
Seems from an overall standpoint the Note 5 is comically on the weak side in comparison.
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I too am very disappointed with the new offerings from Samsung. I currently have the Note 3, I didn't upgrade to the Note 4 as it wasn't a big enough jump, and the Note 5 is quite disappointing. The non-replaceable battery, no SD card or 128GB phone to make up for this, Samsung Pay will not work with ROOT, and KNOX, makes this another one I will skip. I think at this point I will wait until the new 820 chip powers a nice new phone, before I dump my Note 3.
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Umm, sir you used incorrect terminology there: Offerings? Lol. jk
I am definitely not getting the Note 5. It's a giant step backwards to pre 2013.
LG G4 Pro in october.
WTF SAMSUNG!!! You cut two of the most essential Note features and you don't make a 128GB model!!!! Insanity ? I think I'll wait for the Nexus 6 or the Moto X pure I'll miss the S pen and multitasking feature but it's not worth it at all. Smh ?
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Getting it regardless.
Wait for the Nexus 5 (2015).
Seems this year your battery life will suck. Let it suck with a Snapdragon 820 inside and pure Android.
Or, as someone mentioned above, G Pro 4 (or whatever the hell it will be named). Will contain probably SD820, massive 27 MP camera and probably bigger battery than Note 5.
Talk about killing the excitement with all these negative reviews. Anyone with positive comments? I will be going from a S4 to the Note 5.
Europe: No Note 5 for the time being
To me the Note 5 is also not a step but actually a giant leap backwards, since Samsung happily decided to abandon a lot of powerful features that made the preceding Notes shine.
Of course I am not surprised that the Note series has now fallen victim to the same strategies the S series has, which come straight out of the playbook from Cupertino.
But what makes me shake my head even more in anger is that - at least for the time being - Samsung are not even planning on bringing the Note 5 to Europe but are trying to force feed us the S6 edge+ over here.
Allegedly because Europeans got their Notes mainly because of the screen size!
Although they cannot speak for the whole continent, my Note 1, Note 10.1 and Note 3 beg to differ.
Note 5 is the best smartphone on the market. Looks very good, top hardware. I'm waiting for full reviews and to see it in stores but it is a beautiful phone. Especially the new metallic color. Everything else is just talk. What I was expected was the 128 gb option. The rest are not so important ( I owned every Galaxy S and Note from the beginning, I use 128 GB sd card atm but has never been occupied more than 50%. Now I own S6 with 128 gb and It's enough. Maybe 64 Gb will be the low limit, but the 32 gb variant it's out of discussion.
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BTW.
1.No IR blaster - a good universal remote from Philips or Logitech cost 30 USD. Can do so much more and so much confortable with that than a phone with limited data base ( samsung has never implemented the learning feature of a true universal remote). So not much of a problem the lack of IR.- there is not.
2. No sd card - 64/128 Gb of fast internal memory will do more than 128 of external with limited capabilities. Do not forget the limitation we had with external sd. BTW -an micro sd OTG adapter is the size of the coin an can be attached to the phone whenever we want.
3. No removable battery -this could be a problem but in my opinion a power user who charge a phone every day will update in 90% of cases before 2 years. Even so the battery could be exchanged with a new one in service without too much trouble.
THE LACK OF 128 GB IS THE ONLY REAL PROBLEM WITH NOTE 5/S6 EDGE +AND THE LACK OF HDMI OUT LIKE THE S6 ( THIS WAS A REALLY STUPID STUPID MOVE FROM SAMSUNG IN MY OPINION)
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Looks like the price will be set around $1600 with hopefully decent trade offers for our Note 20/ Ultra. Possible S-Pen full integration but the battery size is a measely 4300-4500mAh which right there if true is a deal breaker for me. I'm expecting at least a minimum of 5000 mAh for me to shell out any of my hard earned moolah.
What do you guys think?
Not going to till it reaches same durability/waterproof level. IMO benefits we get are not worth the price bump.
I'll consider it if they offer a trade in of 900$ on my note 20 ultra. Samsung are wankers, they want all their cake and eat it to. Of course they didn't make a note 21 ultra or whatever, because they are hedging on us bafoons to bend over for their beta program.
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I'll consider it if they offer a trade in of 900$ on my note 20 ultra. Samsung are wankers, they want all their cake and eat it to. Of course they didn't make a note 21 ultra or whatever, because they are hedging on us bafoons to bend over for their beta program.
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By the normal yearly Samsung trade in offers, it'll probably be somewhere in the $700-$800 range. Now since they know that they've screwed over their loyal Note customers by skipping the 21 this year- they might sweeten the pot and increase the trade in value closer to your range.
The question is- are you willing to live with a dual screen fold 3 supported with a mediocre battery and the other compromises like the ones mentioned by Elastep above.
Nope. Will be upgrading from Note 20 Ultra to Pixel 6 Pro if all of these Pixel leaks turn out to be correct. Been running Samsung devices the past several years waiting for Google to put out some decent hardware. One UI is cool but prefer the Pixel software experience.
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Nope. Will be upgrading from Note 20 Ultra to Pixel 6 Pro if all of these Pixel leaks turn out to be correct. Been running Samsung devices the past several years waiting for Google to put out some decent hardware. One UI is cool but prefer the Pixel software experience.
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Just looked up the pro and it looks mighty tempting. Never owned a pixel before but by all accounts the stock android experience doesn't tax the battery much so we should see exception SOTs all around. Supposedly will have 5 years of updates too.
This will be my fall back option if the Fold 3 doesn't meet the minimum battery specs that'll meet my needs.
The battery life will be definitely awful on the Fold. I was hoping to upgrade from my old Note 10 plus to the new fold but after knowing that its battery is even smaller than the N20 Ultra's, I decided to go for the N20U. Add to that carrying a power bank with the already bulky fold phone will only add insult to injury.
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The battery life will be definitely awful on the Fold. I was hoping to upgrade from my old Note 10 plus to the new fold but after knowing that its battery is even smaller than the N20 Ultra's, I decided to go for the N20U. Add to that carrying a power bank with the already bulky fold phone will only add insult to injury.
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I'm no engineer but still I keep wondering why they're skimping on the battery.. It's not like they don't have enough room which I don't think is the case so I think it all comes down to risk vs reward and they're taking the very conservative approach keeping in mind the whole Note 7 fiasco.
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I'm no engineer but still I keep wondering why they're skimping on the battery.. It's not like they don't have enough room which I don't think is the case so I think it all comes down to risk vs reward and they're taking the very conservative approach keeping in mind the whole Note 7 fiasco.
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two factors. First of all they want to cut the price tag, and they want to make it slimmer than the Fold 2. But in both cases, we will be getting bad SOT. I bet that reaching 5 hours SOT will be a miracle
Thinking to skip Android all together... Fragmentation is just too much and till today Google couldn't come up with a viable solution. Adding to that major version upgrades in Android is just stupid compared to Apple... I hate Apple but I have no choice
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By the normal yearly Samsung trade in offers, it'll probably be somewhere in the $700-$800 range. Now since they know that they've screwed over their loyal Note customers by skipping the 21 this year- they might sweeten the pot and increase the trade in value closer to your range.
The question is- are you willing to live with a dual screen fold 3 supported with a mediocre battery and the other compromises like the ones mentioned by Elastep above.
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To answer your last paragraph. No.
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Galaxy Z Fold 3 and Flip 3 possible prices and pre-order freebies revealed
Samsung's new phones could be over 20 percent cheaper than their predecessors, as was rumored before, and pre-orders may net you one of Samsung's highly anticipated upcoming accessories.
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Looks like the price will be set around $1600 with hopefully decent trade offers for our Note 20/ Ultra. Possible S-Pen full integration but the battery size is a measely 4300-4500mAh which right there if true is a deal breaker for me. I'm expecting at least a minimum of 5000 mAh for me to shell out any of my hard earned moolah.
What do you guys think?
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NO
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NO
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No, I'm happy with Note 20 Ultra. Except I'm thinking to swap mine to 512Gb version. From 128Gb I have used 56Gb. Ok I have installed 512Gb MicroSD card for saving videos and photos.
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No, I'm happy with Note 20 Ultra. Except I'm thinking to swap mine to 512Gb version. From 128Gb I have used 56Gb. Ok I have installed 512Gb MicroSD card for saving videos and photos.
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What's the Max capacity SD card that the Note 20 Ultra can accept?
There's a poll on phonearena.com asking if you want a Galaxy Note 22 or a Fold. Almost 85% said they want a Note 22..
dj24 said:
What's the Max capacity SD card that the Note 20 Ultra can accept?
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1tb
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1tb
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Actually, not true... SDXC should be able to support up to around 2Tb( this number has been reported for years now) , however, 1Tb is the largest card you can get at this time...
LOL, all you guys must be from the states... Throwing around numbers like $700 - $800, I live in Australia. We get truly shat upon by Samsung.
For the S21 I was offered a $500Aud trade in on my Note 20 Ultra, that is less than $400US...
We get crap pre-order bonuses and get everything last...
The Fold 2 retailed for $3000Aud over here. The Note 20 Ultra was $1700 which if you do the conversion is about on par however the trade-in bonus was a butt load less...
Oh the problem of getting only $700-$800US discount. .
The REAL problem with the fold is the internal only storage. Using a note I tend to load up everything onto the sd card. I back up anything important there too as I've had less sd cards fail than phones get corrupted...
With fast charging improving, hopefully battery technology getting better, power isn't so much of a problem but storage really is. It costs too much here in Oz for data plans to use online solutions...
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Actually, not true... SDXC should be able to support up to around 2Tb( this number has been reported for years now) , however, 1Tb is the largest card you can get at this time...
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Not seeing that speced anywhere... 1tb
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With the saturation of phones out there it frustrates me to no end that none of the high end versions outside of the Asus Rog Phones have 6000mAh spec'd batteries. Low end ones and some mid tiers have those batteries but none of the flagships do.
I guess it's because they all know they won't get repeat customers upgrading their phone every year and their power banks and other belated battery related accessories will go out of business..