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Why is my LTE device displaying as HSPA+?

Hey guys. I Have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-I317M) and for some reason it fluctuates between HSPA+ and 3G signals rather than LTE. The device is originally locked to Rogers but I unlocked it and am now using it with MTS. I am running on jelly bean 4. 1.2 and CleanRom 4.0.5. Anybody have any ideas as to why I'm not getting LTE?

KR3W said:
Hey guys. I Have a Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-I317M) and for some reason it fluctuates between HSPA+ and 3G signals rather than LTE. The device is originally locked to Rogers but I unlocked it and am now using it with MTS. I am running on jelly bean 4. 1.2 and CleanRom 4.0.5. Anybody have any ideas as to why I'm not getting LTE?
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Are you still getting fast data speeds? All LTE is 3.9 g and hspa is like 3.6 g lol..
http://tasel.wordpress.com/2012/03/13/lte-hsdpa-dc-hsdpa-explain-this-alphbet-soup-of-4g-to-me/
Since you only mentioned your phone model and not the important notion what your carrier is, what is it?
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thlinx said:
Are you still getting fast data speeds? All LTE is 3.9 g and hspa is like 3.6 g lol..
Since you only mentioned your phone model and not the important notion what your carrier is, what is it?
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Yes I'm getting fast speeds but I can't help but wonder why this is happening. I mentioned that I'm with MTS so I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for. I live in Canada so it's probably not familiar to you. They just started carrying S3's which are running on their LTE network and they show 4G at the top of them when activated rather than HSPA+.

KR3W said:
Yes I'm getting fast speeds but I can't help but wonder why this is happening. I mentioned that I'm with MTS so I'm not sure if that's what you're looking for. I live in Canada so it's probably not familiar to you. They just started carrying S3's which are running on their LTE network and they show 4G at the top of them when activated rather than HSPA+.
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Nope not familiar with Mts. That's correct.. it all depends on the towers u are near .. if they haven't upgraded there towers sorry your sol lol
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It is either the towers or your phone isn't compatible with the bands of LTE (there are multiple bands like there is with UTMS).

MrObvious said:
It is either the towers or your phone isn't compatible with the bands of LTE (there are multiple bands like there is with UTMS).
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I'm pretty sure it isn't the towers cause my friends iPhone 5 is running off LTE and he live about 5 minutes away from my house. I've also been at distances one minute away from his house and did not pick up LTE then either. I don't know much about bands or frequencies but my carrier just launched the Galaxy S3's and they run off LTE and I'm assuming the Note 2 has the same hardware. S3: 700 (Band 17), 1700/2100 (AWS) MHz , Note 2: 700(band 17) 850 AWS 1,900(band 2). I'm clueless as to what those numbers mean but i'm guessing the important thing is Band 17, right?

Try going near his house then. Or have you checked the network settings? You may have to flash something.

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Try going near his house then. Or have you checked the network settings? You may have to flash something.
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I have to no avail. I had a friend try to help me out over the phone with network settings and his phone appears to have a setting that mine does not. When he goes into settings > wireless and network more settings > mobile network there is an option for him to toggle between LTE, HSPA+ etc. My phone doesn't have that for some reason. All that's listed is Mobile data, data roaming, Access point names, and network operators. Nothing to toggle between networks, which is probably what I need to enable LTE. I have no idea why that setting would be absent from my device. My friend was using an S3 on the same operating system as me btw.

From what i can tell it's the frequencies . The frequencies your device have seem to be different than the frequencies the s3 have on your carrier. If it's not that then you can check your apn settings.
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Well i didn't realize how old the thread was, but i hope yes fixed your problem.
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What model is your phone, and what model is his phone. You said you brought your phone from a competing carrier who is likely using alternate frequencies that your phone might not be picking up either due to hardware or software limitations. Without knowing the hardware, and where it came from in the first place, we can't figure out what frequencies your phone is looking for and can't answer your question effectively.

download an app that will show you what is the type of connection you are actually on.
I think that maybe its the matter of incorrect icon.

Galaxy A9 Pro

I have been thinking of buying this phone for my wife and I, and we're aware that it will work on most carriers in the USA, but the burning question that we haven't been able to figure out is will it work on T-Mobile's 4G LTE network? I have found what I believe to be the international version on onedigitals.com, and ipmart Malaysia and they say it will support band 4 FDD-LTE, but I want to hear it from the horses mouth. Thanks for your help!
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dpagoh said:
I have been thinking of buying this phone for my wife and I, and we're aware that it will work on most carriers in the USA, but the burning question that we haven't been able to figure out is will it work on T-Mobile's 4G LTE network? I have found what I believe to be the international version on onedigitals.com, and ipmart Malaysia and they say it will support band 4 FDD-LTE, but I want to hear it from the horses mouth. Thanks for your help!
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As per the tech specs showed on Samsung Malaysia website. the A910F/DS version supports LTE Band 4 and will work for you.
See it here: http://www.samsung.com/my/consumer/mobile-devices/smartphones/galaxy-a/SM-A910FZDDXME

Thank you avsroy. I also noticed that the a9 pro doesn't support band 12 (700Mhz), could this be a problem?
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Anyway, because of A9 pro A9100, I switched from Tmo to Cricket, so far I am satisfied. Compromising the LTE but I get the 6" screen and 5000mah battery. No complaints.

eddie24902005 said:
Anyway, because of A9 pro A9100, I switched from Tmo to Cricket, so far I am satisfied. Compromising the LTE but I get the 6" screen and 5000mah battery. No complaints.
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Hey Eddie. I just bought an A9 Pro, and I also use T-Mobile. Here in Boston, Massachusetts, I get very little HSPA+. How often do you get 3G speeds or HSPA+ with Cricket Wireless? Is the speed fast enough for normal use?

hnadeir said:
Hey Eddie. I just bought an A9 Pro, and I also use T-Mobile. Here in Boston, Massachusetts, I get very little HSPA+. How often do you get 3G speeds or HSPA+ with Cricket Wireless? Is the speed fast enough for normal use?
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o, i was living in Boston b4, I encouraged u to use other device to test the hsdpa of cricket by disabling lte. I was using LTE in Boston so I cannot exactly tell how hsdpa is doing. For cricket, I cannot say totally satisfied because the network down for 2 times within a month after switching anf now it is having the 22gb cap(the sales tole me). The hsdpa is usable and sometimes I have LTE lol At least the cricket representative tole me A9 pro has total 3g/hsdpa coverage by cricket/att. I trust it because so far so good. I live in CA though lol. So u should test by yourself...... I rely more on wifi at home and school now so I am fine. But 3g can definitely usable. Just dont use 1080p for youtube.....720p fine.

keep in mine that I have rooted my a9 pro, did all the 3g tweaks in build.pro..... lol

Anyone with Axon 7 on T-Mobile and have LTE Speed issues?

I am embarrassed to say what my mobile speeds are. Notification area shows 4G LTE. T-Mobile blames it (of course...) on the fact that this is not a T-Mobile phone and a contributing factor is "network congestion in the Boston area" (about 15 miles west of Boston, around 128).
All other phones in the house are non-T-Mobile neither and all of them (One+ 1, Nexus 5, Nexus 5x, iPhone 7 Plus) show similar ludicrous speeds (below 2 Mbps download; highest was 11.48).
Any idea, similar experience?
Thanks.

Yeah I'm getting the same thing, mine is usually around 6-11 sometimes much lower. Same thing for my Nexus 6p
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Definitely not having that experience over here. Nothing changed when I got this device.

antpaige said:
Yeah I'm getting the same thing, mine is usually around 6-11 sometimes much lower. Same thing for my Nexus 6p
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warBeard_actual said:
Definitely not having that experience over here. Nothing changed when I got this device.
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May I ask which part of the US are both of you located?

sbi1 said:
May I ask which part of the US are both of you located?
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I'm located in Manchester Connecticut
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Hi - I'm getting great speeds, even on band 12 indoors...so T-Mobile would seem to be full of crap in saying the Axon 7 is the issue, unless your handset has an issue? I'm using stock B25 Nougat.
Geographically I'm in the Rocky Mountains in Steamboat Springs, CO. I use MintSIM but it's the same as T-Mobile towers-wise.
One thought I had...maybe you're stuck on a congested band and are not getting carrier aggregation? I do have a sneaking suspicion that the Axon 7 isn't properly doing carrier aggregation...I'm not sure, but it does seem that I'm not getting band 2+12 aggregation though it's hard to say.

North of Stillwater, Oklahoma. No issues here.

It's been up and down for me.

warBeard_actual said:
Definitely not having that experience over here. Nothing changed when I got this device.
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So jealous. You got some awesome throughput there.
I only did several tests over a one day period. Oh-dark-thirty is always the best time of course.
You could see how bad it is when everyone is online after 5pm.
I'm in Los Angeles County. T-Mobile.
ZTE Axon 7 A2017U, PureNexus ROM, Tapatalk 4.9.5

I have had lots of trouble the past couple of days. Super slow speeds and impossible to have lte in my office. Had to switch to 4g to get data. Not sure what's going on, but TMobile is doing something. My coworkers are having issues as well...

flyer_andy said:
Hi - I'm getting great speeds, even on band 12 indoors...so T-Mobile would seem to be full of crap in saying the Axon 7 is the issue, unless your handset has an issue? I'm using stock B25 Nougat.
Geographically I'm in the Rocky Mountains in Steamboat Springs, CO. I use MintSIM but it's the same as T-Mobile towers-wise.
One thought I had...maybe you're stuck on a congested band and are not getting carrier aggregation? I do have a sneaking suspicion that the Axon 7 isn't properly doing carrier aggregation...I'm not sure, but it does seem that I'm not getting band 2+12 aggregation though it's hard to say.
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OK, so lets assume I am stuck on a congested band - how do 'release' it?
I am on B25 as well.

sbi1 said:
OK, so lets assume I am stuck on a congested band - how do 'release' it?
I am on B25 as well.
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Unfortunately there isn't really a way to force a change LTE bands without physically moving yourself to a different geographic area, as far as I know (aside from some pretty deep hacking of the NV memory with QXDM...but I'm not sure if anyone's figured out how to get the Axon 7 into diagnostic mode and/or found the Windows drivers to make it connect...so even this might be impossible).
T-Mobile is in control of what band/cell ID your phone will use, in light of the various cells the phone can "see," I believe. Do you know what band your phone is using? If you're on band 12 in an urban area it's not uncommon for it to be pretty slow as T-Mo doesn't have a lot of spectrum in that range so it can be a bit congested. I've found that when in down in the city my phone can be a lot slower than it is here in the mountains just due (I think) to all the additional competing users.
I'd suggest downloading the app "LTE Discovery" and then checking what band you're on...then take your phone outside or somewhere else if necessary and see if you can get it to latch onto a different cell/band and see if there's any improvement in the Speed Tests. Obviously, this won't fix your core issue but at least you'd know if it's your handset at fault or simply T-Mobile's problem of too many users on too few airwaves.
Also, do you see better results at various times of the day or are the tests pretty much always abysmal?

flyer_andy said:
Unfortunately there isn't really a way to force a change LTE bands without physically moving yourself to a different geographic area, as far as I know (aside from some pretty deep hacking of the NV memory with QXDM...but I'm not sure if anyone's figured out how to get the Axon 7 into diagnostic mode and/or found the Windows drivers to make it connect...so even this might be impossible).
T-Mobile is in control of what band/cell ID your phone will use, in light of the various cells the phone can "see," I believe. Do you know what band your phone is using? If you're on band 12 in an urban area it's not uncommon for it to be pretty slow as T-Mo doesn't have a lot of spectrum in that range so it can be a bit congested. I've found that when in down in the city my phone can be a lot slower than it is here in the mountains just due (I think) to all the additional competing users.
I'd suggest downloading the app "LTE Discovery" and then checking what band you're on...then take your phone outside or somewhere else if necessary and see if you can get it to latch onto a different cell/band and see if there's any improvement in the Speed Tests. Obviously, this won't fix your core issue but at least you'd know if it's your handset at fault or simply T-Mobile's problem of too many users on too few airwaves.
Also, do you see better results at various times of the day or are the tests pretty much always abysmal?
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Thank you for your detailed response!
Indeed, band 12 based on LTE Discovery and unfortunately the slow speed is typical throughout the day, regardless of day/time.
I'll check again (speeds and bands) when I travel.
Thanks again.

in Oconee County SC, T-mobile data is either excellent or non-existent. Anywhere mountainous has virtually no signal. Salem SC, Mtn Rest, SC have zero service at all on Axon 7 on Tmobile. Looking at tower locations I can see why. There are only towers in the most populated areas. Its kind of a letdown to finally have service in my office, yet have nothing at all (no voice, no txt, no email/data) in 30% of my work area. Really hoping Tmob/Sprint deal happens and their networks are merged. mind you, axon 7 will still be useless in that case as well. i still love the axon 7 despite this. Anyone in Upstate SC have a better apn set than the defaults of RR?

kitcostantino said:
in Oconee County SC, T-mobile data is either excellent or non-existent. Anywhere mountainous has virtually no signal. Salem SC, Mtn Rest, SC have zero service at all on Axon 7 on Tmobile. Looking at tower locations I can see why. There are only towers in the most populated areas. Its kind of a letdown to finally have service in my office, yet have nothing at all (no voice, no txt, no email/data) in 30% of my work area. Really hoping Tmob/Sprint deal happens and their networks are merged. mind you, axon 7 will still be useless in that case as well. i still love the axon 7 despite this. Anyone in Upstate SC have a better apn set than the defaults of RR?
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Sounds like the problem is connectivity more than axon 7

Horrible signal new S10+ on sprint

Anyone else on Sprint with the S10?
Note 8, and S8+ works fine. My S10+ is getting 1x and when I'm on the road, it would come in and out all day long. Without WiFi the phone is almost useless.

dannieboiz said:
Anyone else on Sprint with the S10?
Note 8, and S8+ works fine. My S10+ is getting 1x and when I'm on the road, it would come in and out all day long. Without WiFi the phone is almost useless.
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i have the exect same issue with s10e..i thought it was only s10e because its a cheaper model..what do we do..plus also my wifi is pritty bad..only on this device

My wifi works fine but I have very limited if any data signal and I can hardly send or receive text messages....
No one has a fix?
I called the sprint store and the guy said lots of these new S10 series phones have connectivity issues.
He said their tech has a fix for it but it may not be effective. He said Samsung needs to release an update to fix it.
I've got the S10+
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Switch to verizon, att, or cricket. Sprint is bottom of barrel of carriers sadly. I learned that the hard way back when carriers has 2 year contracts.
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johnwayne27 said:
Switch to verizon, att, or cricket. Sprint is bottom of barrel of carriers sadly. I learned that the hard way back when carriers has 2 year contracts.
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I used to believe in this statement.. But when I walk around with a phone from Verizon (business), Srint (Personal) and AT&T hotspot service, I realized this is very not true.
There are locations where each carrier is stronger than others. At one of my job site, Verizon and AT&T fail to connect at all constant roaming and drop calls while Sprint skips along like no body cares.
Point, additionally, as each carrier acquire and deploy new bands, they need to be built out so the newer devices that support the bands can utlize it relieving the crowded older bands.
HOWEVER, this stupid phone, with SignalCheck Pro installed, I can see the bands I'm on but the signal stregnth is horrible, like at the moment, i'm connected to band 41 but LTE is at -117dBm, that's almost like not having signal at all. Likewise when I'm connected to band 25 and 26.
I tried disabling all those bands and force it onto the lower frequency with hardly any success.

dannieboiz said:
I used to believe in this statement.. But when I walk around with a phone from Verizon (business), Srint (Personal) and AT&T hotspot service, I realized this is very not true.
There are locations where each carrier is stronger than others. At one of my job site, Verizon and AT&T fail to connect at all constant roaming and drop calls while Sprint skips along like no body cares.
Point, additionally, as each carrier acquire and deploy new bands, they need to be built out so the newer devices that support the bands can utlize it relieving the crowded older bands.
HOWEVER, this stupid phone, with SignalCheck Pro installed, I can see the bands I'm on but the signal stregnth is horrible, like at the moment, i'm connected to band 41 but LTE is at -117dBm, that's almost like not having signal at all. Likewise when I'm connected to band 25 and 26.
I tried disabling all those bands and force it onto the lower frequency with hardly any success.
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Can you disable or remove that signal check program? Not all sognal check programs are legit.
What country are you in?
That may be part of the problem.
I agree, carriers do have their own pros and cons.
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johnwayne27 said:
Switch to verizon, att, or cricket. Sprint is bottom of barrel of carriers sadly. I learned that the hard way back when carriers has 2 year contracts.
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Can you disable or remove that signal check program? Not all sognal check programs are legit.
What country are you in?
That may be part of the problem.
I agree, carriers do have their own pros and cons.
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I'm in the US
and yes the program can be uninstalled, but it was only installed because I need to troubleshoot this issue, so it's not the program that's causing the problem. It's just telling me what band I'm on and the signal.

dannieboiz said:
Anyone else on Sprint with the S10?
Note 8, and S8+ works fine. My S10+ is getting 1x and when I'm on the road, it would come in and out all day long. Without WiFi the phone is almost useless.
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It's not just you. There are multiple threads on Sprint's forums with users complaining. My phone constantly roams, the WiFi calling keeps timing out on location and though it says LTE most of the time data doesn't work. Lucky for me I keep a spare phone so I'll be switching back to my iPhone X until they resolve this but there's been no official word on any of this getting resolved so I'm not expecting a solution any time soon. I'm wondering if it was the update I installed that caused this because it seemed like day 1 the phone was ok. Maybe a solution is to use Odin and flash back to the original stock.

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It's not just you. There are multiple threads on Sprint's forums with users complaining. My phone constantly roams, the WiFi calling keeps timing out on location and though it says LTE most of the time data doesn't work. Lucky for me I keep a spare phone so I'll be switching back to my iPhone X until they resolve this but there's been no official word on any of this getting resolved so I'm not expecting a solution any time soon. I'm wondering if it was the update I installed that caused this because it seemed like day 1 the phone was ok. Maybe a solution is to use Odin and flash back to the original stock.
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They had me reset network settings which I did and it didn't help. They're sending me a replacement phone... Once I get it I'll prevent the Samsung update and see if that helps. Idk I really wanted to like this phone.
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Sadly this is a known issue:
https://community.sprint.com/t5/Samsung/Galaxy-s10-plus-wont-stay-connected-to-LTE/td-p/1035678
https://www.reddit.com/r/Sprint/comments/b1hxkp/galaxy_s10_data_failure/

Strange I get signal better than I did on my note 9

Do you guys have a Sprint phone or the unlocked version from factory? I have the factory unlocked version, could it be it? The sprint guy @ the store said they sold a few s10's and no one has come back *****ing yet

dannieboiz said:
Do you guys have a Sprint phone or the unlocked version from factory? I have the factory unlocked version, could it be it? The sprint guy @ the store said they sold a few s10's and no one has come back *****ing yet
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I have the sprint version purchased from S

Spent an hour with samsung to no resolution. Took my verizon sim and dropped it on the S10 and the phone was getting good signal and speed then dropped for a couple minutes then back to good speeds. But as it's doing this, the phone started to get very warm. Sprint tech support doesn't know crap, just make me repeat their written process multiple times and the guys at the sprint stores are just salesman.
Since the verizon seems shows intermitten connections as well, i'm going to see if samsung can send me a replacement.

Does 7T Pro McLaren support standalone 5g mode (no LTE)?

Summary: The SIM card that came in the box for McLaren 5g says TM with 4 numbers. Can I use 5G standalone mode? Read on for why this matters.
I'm using an old SIM, and I recently get a text message from TMO that I should upgrade my sim, pointing to http://t-mo.co/5GSIM
But on that page is says the following:
R15: If you see R15 in pink on the SIM card, you're all set!
TMXXXX: If you see TM followed by 4 numbers, you need to switch to the new SIM that came with your device.

It's fully capable of it with the x55 modem. However, T-Mobile owns the permission for this phone to get on SA 5G. Will need an update.
C-NET Article: "T-mobiles-5g-network-upgrade-means-better-indoor-and-rural-coverage" states:
(sorry no link, jr member)
Regarding SA 5G "T-Mobile will also add support for the new network to the Galaxy Note 10 Plus 5G and OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren that were released in 2019 via a software update, however no timeline has yet been given for when that update will arrive. "
That being said, T-Mobile is explicit. You must have the R15 SIM, a capable SA 5G device and be in a SA coverage area.
Get your R15 SIM. Be ready.

eidsvik said:
That being said, T-Mobile is explicit. You must have the R15 SIM, a capable SA 5G device and be in a SA coverage area.
Get your R15 SIM. Be ready.
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Fair enough. I stopped by a T-Mobile store and got a new R15 SIM. So now to wait for the upgrade. Or maybe just buy a new device lol.

https://prepaid.t-mobile.com/browse-phones
i ordered and got r15 sim last week. far right on prepaid phones page "2020 sim"
since i didn't order a plan it cost $10 w/ free 2 day shipping. anxiously awaiting update.

The McLaren doesn't have SA yet, but there's some FCC docs showing that it's coming soon. I'll probably have to get one of these R15 sims as well.

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https://prepaid.t-mobile.com/browse-phones
i ordered and got r15 sim last week. far right on prepaid phones page "2020 sim"
since i didn't order a plan it cost $10 w/ free 2 day shipping. anxiously awaiting update.
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Thanks for the info. I know we'll get the update eventually. Hadn't heard of the new SIM card requirements. Just ordered mine for $10. Hope they send the new kind. Ordered the 2020 one.

For what it's worth. I went and got the new sim, for free, after work when that text message was sent by t-mobile. My biggest complaint about this phone is that my texting, whether I use the stock app, or install google messages and try to go RCS, has always had issues, especially over WiFi. But after the sim swap, I have ZERO texting issues, it all works exactly as advertised, RCS through Google messages as well. I believe my previous sim card had been around since I bought my Note 4. So for anyone have texting issues especially, get the new sim card, especially with 5G SA on the horizon for this phone. I just took my wife's S20+ over to get the sim upgrade last night, and now it natively connects to 5G NR. Impressive.
That being said, I'm probably going to jump ship to either the pixel 4a 5G of pixel 5, but purchasing one from google for that precious unlockable bootloader. It's been a year since I upgraded from my 6T, and I really miss having viper4audio in the car for streaming.
mmarcz

I called T-Mobile customer service, requested the R15 SIM.
First call the rep asked..."do you get 5G on your phone right now?" "yeah then you don't need one of these, you got what you needed in an update that was pushed out to your phone"
Second call...took 15 minutes explaining to the rep what I wanted, supervisor involved, had to read them my IMEI, etc. Said they mailed it. Nothing arrived.
Third attempt, walked right into a T-Mobile store. They knew exactly. In and out 10 mins, no charge.
I brought my 8 5G in with me to avoid any guff. Of course that worked.
I popped it into my 7TP McLaren, it hasn't left it since.
It's so clean. No more slow texts, no weird service pauses as it figured out how to get from LTE to 5G to Wi-Fi and back.
Happy, but I want to know WHY on that part there.

""this is an initial update for new 5G stand alone technology" new update today

Upgrading to the new r15 sim also fixed my wifi calling and texting since I switched to the mclaren. Holy crap, I only upgraded for the 5g

The 39 update was released yesterday and enabled SA. I confirmed it works by using the debug menu to force my phone into NR mode, unfortunately the result of a speed test were pretty disappointing.
On a more positive note, the LTE speeds at my house are faster than ever. ?

I've got no sim after this update....guess I'm stopping by the T-Mobile OTW home.

"5G" lol. I had a "Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G Plus" for a few months and more than once I found my phone with no internet. I had perfect 5G signal, and no internet. I rebooted, nothing. I then disabled 5G, forcing it to 4G-LTE, and suddenly I had internet. 5G uses different towers, and apparently they can lose internet and the phone doesn't realize it. The only reason T-Mobile, and every other carrier, is pushing 5G is to get the congestion off their 4G-LTE towers. But I digress. At this point, due to my 5G issues in the area, I don't care for 5G one way or another. I eventually couldn't stand the Galaxy S20 any longer so I sold it and bought this OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren 5G used on ebay. I could care less about its 5G capabilities. Nice to have but not a deal-breaker for me. I was going to hold onto this 7T Pro 5G for a few months and then try and pickup a used 8T Pro, but apparently that's not happening. I don't know if I should get an 8T or not, I may just see if there's a 9 Pro. I don't mind waiting, this 7T Pro 5G smokes the Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G in terms of everyday usability.

glitchsys said:
"5G" lol. I had a "Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G Plus" for a few months and more than once I found my phone with no internet. I had perfect 5G signal, and no internet. I rebooted, nothing. I then disabled 5G, forcing it to 4G-LTE, and suddenly I had internet. 5G uses different towers, and apparently they can lose internet and the phone doesn't realize it. The only reason T-Mobile, and every other carrier, is pushing 5G is to get the congestion off their 4G-LTE towers. But I digress. At this point, due to my 5G issues in the area, I don't care for 5G one way or another. I eventually couldn't stand the Galaxy S20 any longer so I sold it and bought this OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren 5G used on ebay. I could care less about its 5G capabilities. Nice to have but not a deal-breaker for me. I was going to hold onto this 7T Pro 5G for a few months and then try and pickup a used 8T Pro, but apparently that's not happening. I don't know if I should get an 8T or not, I may just see if there's a 9 Pro. I don't mind waiting, this 7T Pro 5G smokes the Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G in terms of everyday usability.
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That's the way Verizon's mmWave 5G works (which is insanely fast but also completely useless because it only works outdoors while walking and needs towers every 500 to 1000 feet which will only be installed in the most crowded sections of the most crowded metro areas). T-Mobile uses same towers for 3G/4G LTE/5G NR as they all use the same frequencies (600 to 2500 MHz). Not 60 Ghz garbage that can't travel more than quarter mile or even pass through glass or your hand. That's also why T-Mobile was able to roll out low-band 600MHz 5G to virtually the entire country in such a short time. Because it can travel over 10 miles from tower to indoor phone. Now T-Mobile is working on adding more bandwidth to low-band 5G along with rolling out the mid-band 2500Mhz 5G which will be where the real speed is. It's already out in 300+ cities and will be 1000+ by end of year. That's where the speed will be. 300mbps+ to start. And it'll work indoors and while driving too lol. And my phone is all ready, willing, and able

Anyone know how do you check if you have a newer sim for the 5g SA support?

t436h05t said:
Anyone know how do you check if you have a newer sim for the 5g SA support?
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https://www.tmonews.com/2020/09/t-mobile-standalone-5g-r15-sim-card-customers/

What about mvno users on mint or metro?

Globel said:
What about mvno users on mint or metro?
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No new sim, no SA 5G support. You can test it out yourself by dialing *#*#4636#*#* (has to be from the default OnePlus dialer/phone app while set as default dialer app in settings, apps, default apps -- Won't work with Google Dialer/phone app.), click phone information, and set preferred network type to NR only.
If you get data (with WiFi off), then SA 5G is working. If you get no signal, SA 5G isn't working. However, calls will not work in SA 5G (NR only mode) with WiFi calling off because the X55 modem doesn't support VoNR. So once you test, set it back to how it was so VoLTE calls start working again. To my knowledge, no phones have the X60 modem yet, so no device can access VoNR/make calls when set to NR Only (wifi calling solves this but that requires wifi)
This was a life saver a few days ago in the aftermath of Hurricane Zeta. 95%+ of the entire NOLA metro area and major surrounding suburbs were without power. And the 4G LTE network was so slow it might have been off from hundreds of thousands of people all trying to use it at the same time (and so was NSA 5G because it depends on 4G LTE to set up a connection and also some signalling to make it actually work -- I had full bars on both). I forced it to "NR Only"/SA 5G and my data speeds went from too slow to browse the internet, much less stream video, to well over 110 mbps. Didn't care phone calls weren't working at that point haha.
SA 5G for the win!! :good: