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At&t 850hz on rooted? Possible?

Has anyone with a rooted nexus s managed to enable the at&t frequencies? 850hz? is it possible physically (is there a 3g 850hz frequency built in?)
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joesixpack1969 said:
Has anyone with a rooted nexus s managed to enable the at&t frequencies? 850hz? is it possible physically (is there a 3g 850hz frequency built in?)
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3G on this first version of the Nexus S (assuming they come out with an HSPA version as well like they did for the N1) supports 900, 1700, and 2100 MHz. The onboard hardware does not support 850hz / 1900hz.

That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
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joesixpack1969 said:
That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
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I'm pretty sure it was intentional. It would be in Google's best interest to have all bands so that they wouldn't need to release multiple versions like with the N1. They likely have a deal with T-Mo

joesixpack1969 said:
That's a real bummer...
Short sighted of google too...
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5 and 6 band HSPA radios are still quite uncommon. I can only think of one or two devices on the market that use them.
It is just life. Send them feedback and tell them you want an 850/1900 version.

Just wait for the Nexus S to come out on ATT, I seriously doubt Google is going to make the Nexus S strictly Tmobile. Tmobile makes up less than 10% of all cell phones, would be kind of stupid...

Why does it say quad band with 850hz here? http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
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That's GSM - you can make calls and get 2G (EDGE) data just fine on AT&T with the Nexus S... but would you want to? =)
joesixpack1969 said:
Why does it say quad band with 850hz here? http://www.google.com/nexus/#/tech-specs
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Its not googles' fault. A long time ago the US gsm providers decided to add a download chanel to 3g gsm so that users couldn't take their phone from one provider to another and so the could not import phones in from europe. You can take a phone from att or tmo and it will do 3g on any european gsm provider you chose. However no normal european gsm phone will do 3g in the us. They lack the second download chanel. So don't complain about google, it was the providers that made a conscious decision to muck it up.
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dimes-jth said:
Its not googles' fault. A long time ago the US gsm providers decided to add a download chanel to 3g gsm so that users couldn't take their phone from one provider to another and so the could not import phones in from europe. You can take a phone from att or tmo and it will do 3g on any european gsm provider you chose. However no normal european gsm phone will do 3g in the us. They lack the second download chanel. So don't complain about google, it was the providers that made a conscious decision to muck it up.
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That's 100% true!!! Plus the batter life would be horrific with all those signals, and a bigger antenna! LOL
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I'm on ATT
I hate the EDGE speeds but there is nothing else we can do. I currently carry around my Nexus One with this one to use as a hotspot. Google will probably release another version within a couple months as they did with the N1. Hopefully they will cause tethering all the time is awesome to show off but cumbersome all at the same time

I picked up the nexus s yesterday. Love the phone compared to my Captivate on Cognition but EDGE is really hampering the experience.

petep86 said:
That's 100% true!!! Plus the batter life would be horrific with all those signals, and a bigger antenna! LOL
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Nokia managed to design a pentaband 3G (5 different 3G bands, 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz) phone, the N8 and it has no problems AFAIK. Samsung probably doesn't have the knowledge or talent to design a pentaband 3G device though.

The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.

distortedloop said:
The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.
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At&t does not use 3g on 1900mhz everywhere. In fact, a major AT&T initiative in the past few years was to move 3g to the 850 band everywhere possible in order to enhance indoor signal strength.
A phone that can only do 3g on 1900mhz is not a nationwide solution for AT&T, coverage is quite hit or miss.

distortedloop said:
The T-Mobile Vibrant (a Samsung Galaxy S phone, just like our Nexus S) can be used with full 3G speeds on both T-Mobile and AT&T (1900mhz). My friend is currently using an unlocked T-Mo Vibrant on AT&T with no problems and fine 3G speeds.
Samsung certainly knows how to make a phone that will work on both networks; this was clearly a Google decision...why, we'll never know, but I suspect pressure from T-Mobile.
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Check the nexus s specs again. It does not have 1900mHz 3g in any form at all like the vibrant.
It only has 900, 1700, 2100.

RogerPodacter said:
Check the nexus s specs again. It does not have 1900mHz 3g in any form at all like the vibrant.
It only has 900, 1700, 2100.
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Re-read my post, and the post I was responding to again.
I never said that the Nexus S supports 850/900, I was telling a guy who said Samsung didn't know how to make such a phone that he was incorrect because Samsung has already made such a phone (the Vibrant which supports both AWS/1700/1900/2100 on the UMTS side).
Ironic that you're telling me to re-read something when you should have done the same before correcting me.
Peace!

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At&t does not use 3g on 1900mhz everywhere. In fact, a major AT&T initiative in the past few years was to move 3g to the 850 band everywhere possible in order to enhance indoor signal strength.
A phone that can only do 3g on 1900mhz is not a nationwide solution for AT&T, coverage is quite hit or miss.
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Yes, I'm well aware of this, but if you're in any major metro area where AT&T has been offering 3G service for a couple of years or more, 1900 is likely available to you. 850 is in far fewer areas, isn't it? It's only a recent addition to San Francisco as I recall.
1900 support in the Nexus S would have made it much more attractive to me, and a viable AT&T alternative for many across much of the country, but I'll concede that 850/1900 would be necessary to address the whole nation.

I see I mis read your post thinking it meant it had 1900.

Int or at&t note for t mobile

None work with 3g but I'm hoping one or both will soon. I wanna buy a galaxy note this week but am torn between which one to get that will get it enabled first. I have read the threads but not sure. It's there progress on this? If there is on which one? Thanks.

Does your area have 1900MHz frequency towers? T-Mobile has been rolling out 1900MHz in some areas and the areas that do will get you 3G on all versions of the Note and all other 3G phones.

For real! I live in Miami.

Check with your local TMobile store or call their HQ then. If you do have it you're good to go.
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Is everyone supposed to get it eventually?

Well, my store said that in my area, TMobile doesn't have any plans this year to roll it out and they're not sure if my area will get it. So in short I have no idea.
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To be frank, its not going to happen.
It was planned to roll out with the whole ATT &T-Mobile merger (this is why all the chitty chat happening), but since that folded, and now there is n more merger, there is now NOTHING on the board in the see able future.
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If you're going to get the Note to use with T-Mobile, don't hold your breath for 3G support. If you are fine with Edge, get the international version, as it has the better CPU, and physical home button.
Only get the ATT version if you some how have use a upgrade in a family plan that you can steel for yourself.

It's like 580 for att version and 600 for int version. I don't know which one to get. But I want it already.

I went to Bestbuy today to get a universal remote and I decided to take a look at the Galaxy Note for At&t and man was that thing slow. I checked the running programs and there weren't any and I checked the ram and it had a good amount free. But damn it was so slow I couldn't believe. Based on that i would say the int version but a bunch of reviewers claim the Att version was faster..

Bxsteez said:
I went to Bestbuy today to get a universal remote and I decided to take a look at the Galaxy Note for At&t and man was that thing slow. I checked the running programs and there weren't any and I checked the ram and it had a good amount free. But damn it was so slow I couldn't believe. Based on that i would say the int version but a bunch of reviewers claim the Att version was faster..
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Lawl, they must have theirs overclocked to 1.8 Ghz just to match a 1.4 Ghz Exynos I guess.

Bxsteez said:
I went to Bestbuy today to get a universal remote and I decided to take a look at the Galaxy Note for At&t and man was that thing slow. I checked the running programs and there weren't any and I checked the ram and it had a good amount free. But damn it was so slow I couldn't believe. Based on that i would say the int version but a bunch of reviewers claim the Att version was faster..
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I had same results. Today i played with the att note, it just came in today to the store. It was laggy and stuttery. We did side by side comparisons with my galaxy nexus and the nexus was silky smooth for things like scrolling a list from a market search, scrolling youtube list, webpages, etc. Perhaps the lack of exynos is the problem? It definitely made me appreciate my GN. The international note likely is the way to go.

Tmobile really dropped the ball..they should of released the Galaxy Nexus...it has 1700 3g..

according to this we use 1900MHz in San Diego on Tmo.. I have yet to hear that anyone gets 3G on the Note with Tmo here. I am getting mine later this week so I cant test to make sure just yet.
http://www.wirelessadvisor.com/zipcode-search/3p3a2t8bet

Says that for miami also. I'm willing to bet it says it for every location.

Xanthony said:
according to this we use 1900MHz in San Diego on Tmo.. I have yet to hear that anyone gets 3G on the Note with Tmo here. I am getting mine later this week so I cant test to make sure just yet.
http://www.wirelessadvisor.com/zipcode-search/3p3a2t8bet
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I wonder how accurate this is. I'm in Charlotte and it shows:
T-MOBILE
Get more from life.®
SYSTEM: 1900 MHz, 1.7/2.1 GHz
TECHNOLOGY: GSM / GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, LTE Planned

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I wonder how accurate this is. I'm in Charlotte and it shows:
T-MOBILE
Get more from life.®
SYSTEM: 1900 MHz, 1.7/2.1 GHz
TECHNOLOGY: GSM / GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, LTE Planned
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LTE planned? I didn't know Tmobile was planning for an LTE rollout.

One user in the q/a section posted a screen shot of his phone sporadically getting 3g from TMobile on the 1900 band. Some people can be very lucky depending on where you live

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LTE planned? I didn't know Tmobile was planning for an LTE rollout.
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Originally was part of the now failed At&t merger if memory serves.
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One user in the q/a section posted a screen shot of his phone sporadically getting 3g from TMobile on the 1900 band. Some people can be very lucky depending on where you live
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This is hopeful news

The 1900 band was also a part of the failed merger..
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Unlocked on T-Mobile

There seems to be some confusion about this phone working on T-Mobile 4g
YES THE PHONE WORKS!! however if you want 4g you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area and yes LTE works as well.
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
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I would like to confirm that the Unlocked 32GB HTC One works perfectly in Phoenix, AZ as well. We're another 1900MHz refarm, and I've spotted LTE in some areas as well. Don't be afraid to grab this from HTC rather than dealing with T-Mobile's shinanigans and bloatware.

I'm in the boston area, which is also refarmed. pretty much same experience as op. all the set up was automatic.
the only thing different is indoors, sitting at my desk which is 3 feet from the window, my phone switches between E, 3g, and H every few minutes like it cant get a stable connection.
havent gone outdoors yet.
Speedtest during H connection was: 104ms ping, 5.13Mbps down, 2.07Mbps up
this is comparable to my g2 speedtests

msmith1991 said:
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
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Very good to know, thanks for the info...
The wait for this phone is EXCRUCIATING!!!...

MinimalistChris said:
Very good to know, thanks for the info...
The wait for this phone is EXCRUCIATING!!!...
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Working faster than my galaxy nexus around chicagoland, only problem is that I cant no longer tether even with the mod UAstring but If I switch back to the galaxy nexus everything works fine. We need to fix this issue ASAP

I live in SD, our refarm is kind of strange and this is the first time I've ever used it(only used primarily tmobile phones for last 10 years). The one thing I will say is that it in SD it seems every other tower has been refarmed, as I will keep going in and out of HSPA. This was seen as I was driving around on the freeway(not texting but checking service). Another thing is that I can be on a tower that has been refarmed, go into a building, and have it revert to edge from HSPA outside. And then when I take a couple steps outside the building it works again.
Also I was wondering if anyone else has handcut their sim to microsim? I'm hoping that may be the issue, and if I get an official tmobile microsim it will be fine. Otherwise the refarm is superb when it works, getting about 10 Mbps down with my handcut(from diagram) sim

Houston Area
The Developer Edition work fine in Houston area. However, the data speed is jumpy. My Note 2 LTE speed stay above 15 MBS all the time but the One LTE will go from 5 MBS to 20 MBS. H+ on the one is not stable at all. Tmo agent told me to call back in a week for more info. If someone find out a way to optimize the Dev edition on Tmo radio please let me know.

Hello there LTE! It's beautiful to see you on my screen. I can now confirm LTE in Houston
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The Developer Edition work fine in Houston area. However, the data speed is jumpy. My Note 2 LTE speed stay above 15 MBS all the time but the One LTE will go from 5 MBS to 20 MBS. H+ on the one is not stable at all. Tmo agent told me to call back in a week for more info. If someone find out a way to optimize the Dev edition on Tmo radio please let me know.
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I'm sure it won't be long before we have a radio flash for tmobile from the devs
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mr2kqql said:
Working faster than my galaxy nexus around chicagoland, only problem is that I cant no longer tether even with the mod UAstring but If I switch back to the galaxy nexus everything works fine. We need to fix this issue ASAP
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good to know. i live in chicago and am sticking with my $30 t-mo plan.

naan-consensual said:
good to know. i live in chicago and am sticking with my $30 t-mo plan.
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Finally got tethering working by using FoxFi and I get around 10mpbs, the stock one that comes with the phone doesnt quite work for tmobile.

New to the htc one but what is the tmo radio required for? Since it already works unlocked?

If I'm not mistaking it's 1700/1900/LTE out of the box the unlocked one doesn't have 1700 enabled. I'm sure a dev will eventually get it done. If you want 3g/4g data then you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area.
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Just gonna stay on the safe said and get it from the T-MO store tomorrow. Is there any advantage to get the 32gb unlocked version, except for no bloatware? Any advantage if I travel internationally?

msmith1991 said:
If I'm not mistaking it's 1700/1900/LTE out of the box the unlocked one doesn't have 1700 enabled. I'm sure a dev will eventually get it done. If you want 3g/4g data then you need to be in a 1900 refarmed area.
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The ATT/dev ones are 850/1900/2100MHz UMTS; band 4 (AWS) is the only UMTS band that uses 1700MHz at all.
I wouldn't count on getting AWS enabled on the dev version. It is very likely that the allowed bands are configured in hardware as has generally been the case on MDM9x15 devices.
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Just gonna stay on the safe said and get it from the T-MO store tomorrow. Is there any advantage to get the 32gb unlocked version, except for no bloatware? Any advantage if I travel internationally?
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The unlocked version is strictly worse from a 3G standpoint but might have a couple of extra LTE frequencies (not 100% sure on that one, tmo version definitely is bands 4/17 only). AFAIK the only other place AWS is at all likely to matter is Canada, but assuming tmo will unlock your One there is no frequency advantage to getting the unlocked version from HTC--I think it's $5 cheaper.

If you travel internationally then that's a huge advantage.. but I'm sure tmobile will unlock your phone, if you ask. I purchased the unlocked version because I didn't wanna deal with my uncle (account holder) nor tmobile. Plus there wasnt any information about tmobiles release at the time, I so I hopped on the unlocked version.
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I have the HTC 64GB Developer Edition here in Jacksonville Florida but I only get EDGE on T-Mobile Network I dont know what frequency they are using here in Jacksonville, they could be on 1700Mhz My brothers T-Mobile Galaxy S3 says UMTS-3 and he is getting 4G Speeds.

msmith1991 said:
I live in Katy, Texas which is a suburb of Houston which is a 1900 refarmed area. Phone works perfectly fine. I didn't have to do any set up. Basically just like a tmo phone. I haven't noticed LTE yet. It switches from 3g to H. Runs just as fast as my nexus 4 and one s. Just thought I would drop this info, hopefully it helped someone.
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Yeah you guys can actually use this to check if your area has the refarmed 1900 Mhz
http://www.airportal.de/

howardho said:
I live in SD, our refarm is kind of strange and this is the first time I've ever used it(only used primarily tmobile phones for last 10 years). The one thing I will say is that it in SD it seems every other tower has been refarmed, as I will keep going in and out of HSPA. This was seen as I was driving around on the freeway(not texting but checking service). Another thing is that I can be on a tower that has been refarmed, go into a building, and have it revert to edge from HSPA outside. And then when I take a couple steps outside the building it works again.
Also I was wondering if anyone else has handcut their sim to microsim? I'm hoping that may be the issue, and if I get an official tmobile microsim it will be fine. Otherwise the refarm is superb when it works, getting about 10 Mbps down with my handcut(from diagram) sim
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Just the way non T-Mobile phones work in San Diego. I have the same exact issues with my one x. Compared to T-Mobile phones the data connection is extremely unreliable constantly switching and dropping ESPECIALLY inside. Same thing with my wife's unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile.
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Same Here I come from AT&T and I dont like them, I bought this phone to use it with T-Mobile, but I really had it with this HTC One 64GB Developer Edition, HTC should of included AWS 1700mhz on this phone for being such a premium phone with a high price... I'm having the same issue with T-Mobiles Refarm @ 1900mhz keeps dropping from H to EDGE, and I just spoke to my Buddy that works for T-Mobile and there LTE will be on AWS 1700MHZ... I'm shipping this phone back to HTC, I was thinking of buying T-Mobiles HTC One Branded phone that includes the AWS 1700mhz Band, but I don't like the fact that its only a 32GB. I'm going to miss this phone. Ohh well S4 is around the corner maybe I could give Sammy a shot.
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Just the way non T-Mobile phones work in San Diego. I have the same exact issues with my one x. Compared to T-Mobile phones the data connection is extremely unreliable constantly switching and dropping ESPECIALLY inside. Same thing with my wife's unlocked iPhone on T-Mobile.
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TMobile LTE Dayton Ohio

I thought there was a dedicated TMobile One thread here. Now I don't see it and running late today, so--
A sales rep told me a tech said Dayton will turn on LTE in July. Cincinnati will not for now. He said TMobile says to start selling that info here for phone purchases. So, may be pretty accurate. Have known him for awhile. Don't know if that will help anyone like me waiting for much better signal here. I am on fence staying with TMO or going ATT. And don't want to buy phone till I can test the One on TMO LTE where I need the better performance here for business appts. I have other reasons, but not important to this thread.
I know I can get dev edition, but not sure on it's optimization for att as opposed to att one as far as signal reception. I know that can open a bucket of worms for discussion. But, again as OP, not really wanting to get in to that here.
This is basically just FYI--

For what its worth,I've been seeing 3G and H data on my international one X in many parts of dayton,Kettering,beavercreek,moraine,Huber heights,riverside. Working on my att jetstream and inspire as well.
Wonder if they'll have the holes filled in by July when they flip on LTE?
Been debating this phone vs the butterfly,and now that the refarm is creeping in,not sure if I go with t mobile or the dev edition if I go with the one
Thanks for the info
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Thanks Scotty,
Yeah, the holes are their biggest problem. Not enough towers. May be same with lte.
They offer could pricing, but not great coverage.
I am still not sure on lte here in July, when you look at how little they have done compared to att this year. Will see--

If you are buying any of the HTC One Developer Edition 32GB or 64GB the only problem that you might run into is with T-Mobile Because they still have 1700Mhz in use in some areas where they dont have 3G or HSPS on 1900Mhz. But as of today they have Re-frame most of there network in almost 48 cities with 1900Mhz so you will be able to use there 3G or HSPS with Downloads of 14MB and Uploads 6MB. As for my case I got the 64GB HTC One Developer Edition and Im now seing the 1900Mhz in some parts of Jacksonville FL. Your phone will also support LTE 1900Mhz on T-Mobile Lte ones they roll it out. So far I love my phone its Bloatware free with lots of Gigs. I hope this help.
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Thanks Scotty,
Yeah, the holes are their biggest problem. Not enough towers. May be same with lte.
They offer could pricing, but not great coverage.
I am still not sure on lte here in July, when you look at how little they have done compared to att this year. Will see--
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If you are buying any of the HTC One Developer Edition 32GB or 64GB the only problem that you might run into is with T-Mobile Because they still have 1700Mhz in use in some areas where they dont have 3G or HSPS on 1900Mhz. But as of today they have Re-frame most of there network in almost 48 cities with 1900Mhz so you will be able to use there 3G or HSPS with Downloads of 14MB and Uploads 6MB. As for my case I got the 64GB HTC One Developer Edition and Im now seing the 1900Mhz in some parts of Jacksonville FL. Your phone will also support LTE 1900Mhz on T-Mobile Lte ones they roll it out. So far I love my phone its Bloatware free with lots of Gigs. I hope this help.
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I will probably go att, since tmo towers or less in number than att. Since Dayton still doesn't have att lte and they have been very agressive, i am doubting lte for tmo in july. att is set for this summer for sure. I am torn on dev or not. Would like to see someone in Dayton with it, but i will probably decide before either have lte here.

has anyone been able to determine if team mobile turned LTE on in dayton?
ATT did this week.

Call a store and ask most would have att phones here. Att is working great.
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ive had lte in Springfield for about 3 weeks i was told that t mobile flipped it on in Springfield the same time

Has TMo LTE shown up here yet?

when i was on 4.2.2 i had the LTE mod on my Nexus 4 and got LTE.. only about 15Mbps/
about to get a N5 and see how good it really is with real radios.

4G LTE in the US on AT&T

Is anyone else finally getting LTE in the states? I'm using Straighttalk, on AT&T's towers, and am finally getting LTE
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Any special setting? On AT&T and in an lte area, but only getting 4G
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The only setting pertaining to it is Settings->More->Mobile Networks->Preferred Network Mode then I have <LTE/WCDMA/GSM auto> selected
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people211 said:
Any special setting? On AT&T and in an lte area, but only getting 4G
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4G = LTE

No problem with LTE on t-mobile in the US

If you have the TL09 version, you should receive LTE already. I'm currently using the TL10 and only receive HSPA+. Not complaining really, as AT&T's HSPA+ speeds are very respectable.

4G Does not = LTE
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LTE is just that LTE Which means Long Term Evolution. 4G is not even 4G it is an upgraded version of 3G. 4G offers HSPA/+ for data up to 42m in markets that support it. LTE is a joke as no us market even offers the speeds LTE can do. Most speed tests while running on LTE max out around 15 to 24m same for HSPA/+ and when you hit your bandwidth limit your speeds are reduced to that of a dialup modem. I laugh so hard when I hear people wanting a phone and complain it has no LTE.

I suggest you read the Wikipedia entries on 4G and LTE.

I do get LTE on AT&T network however the ascend mate 2 had better signal adherence and would get LTE in more places than the mate 7. I wonder if lollipop will help, this device it's also poorer in battery performance
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PoopDonkey said:
LTE is just that LTE Which means Long Term Evolution. 4G is not even 4G it is an upgraded version of 3G. 4G offers HSPA/+ for data up to 42m in markets that support it. LTE is a joke as no us market even offers the speeds LTE can do. Most speed tests while running on LTE max out around 15 to 24m same for HSPA/+ and when you hit your bandwidth limit your speeds are reduced to that of a dialup modem. I laugh so hard when I hear people wanting a phone and complain it has no LTE.
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Maybe it's different in smaller markets, but I get 50mps down regularly with AT&T here in L.A.

PoopDonkey said:
LTE is just that LTE Which means Long Term Evolution. 4G is not even 4G it is an upgraded version of 3G. 4G offers HSPA/+ for data up to 42m in markets that support it. LTE is a joke as no us market even offers the speeds LTE can do. Most speed tests while running on LTE max out around 15 to 24m same for HSPA/+ and when you hit your bandwidth limit your speeds are reduced to that of a dialup modem. I laugh so hard when I hear people wanting a phone and complain it has no LTE.
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You forget one important factor, response time and latency is greatly improved on 4G this is very noticeable, this is more important then the increased bandwidth. I am stuck with a old mobile subscription with 3.75 HDSP+, the reason I have not upgraded it earlier is that my old mobile subscription offer me no data limit, I got a letter last month from my telecom company they say they will now updrade my old mobile subscription to 4G and I will still have no data limit.
Looking forward to see what speed I will get with 4G! Currently I get about 22 mbit with 3.75G HDSP+. Bandwidth is enough but responsetimes will bet a lot better with 4G which will make it faster to connect to new connections when using internet.. The bootleneck will probably now be the CPU/GPU of the M7.

Does this phone supports T-Mobile LTE or just the Att ?
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It's fine on T-mobile LTE (I have the single sim MT-L09 version) . Best speed I've seen in downtown Tampa has been something like 45m down.