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how to use the 48mp feature

dear black shark 2 user
How to activate the 48mp camera features?
I tried the pro mode, but I cant find 48 mp button like the redmi note 7 or mi 9 camera app does
mine is black shark 2 6/128 chinese version
thanks

It's a 48MP sensor, but the images are 12MP. It uses quad bayer filtering (images are 1/4 the MP count as the actual sensor). "Pixel binning" is the main term everyone uses for it.

Harfainx said:
It's a 48MP sensor, but the images are 12MP. It uses quad bayer filtering (images are 1/4 the MP count as the actual sensor). "Pixel binning" is the main term everyone uses for it.
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Does it support google camera like new xiaomi phones or not?

rowihel2012 said:
Does it support google camera like new xiaomi phones or not?
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I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure that's discussed in another thread already. This thread was asking for info about the sensor being 48MP.

[ just received ] [ chinese version PCCM00 ] Oppo RENO 10x ZOOM

Here we are !!!!
just arrived at home from China : OPPO Reno 10x Zoom (PCCM00) Green 8 / 256GB
So Stunning !!!! Pure !!! Gorgeous FLAT Panel and bezelless design ( Oppo must still eliminate bottom bezel )
Photo album :
https://imgur.com/gallery/8WYukx2
Video unboxing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPX5Z8kvxPU
https://postimg.cc/xXsDknmx
https://postimg.cc/8F32H4tL
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https://postimg.cc/ftSNnpJH
https://postimg.cc/HJVGXR4p
https://postimg.cc/7GSmvnnv
https://postimg.cc/JyDpxLyz
https://postimg.cc/5Q3gy9rn

wolfgart said:
Here we are !!!!
just arrived at home from China : OPPO Reno 10x Zoom (PCCM00) Green 8 / 256GB
So Stunning !!!! Pure !!! Gorgeous FLAT Panel and bezelless design ( Oppo must still eliminate bottom bezel )
Photo album :
https://imgur.com/gallery/8WYukx2
Video unboxing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPX5Z8kvxPU
https://postimg.cc/xXsDknmx
https://postimg.cc/8F32H4tL
https://postimg.cc/BXBG0xnG
https://postimg.cc/ftSNnpJH
https://postimg.cc/HJVGXR4p
https://postimg.cc/7GSmvnnv
https://postimg.cc/JyDpxLyz
https://postimg.cc/5Q3gy9rn
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how do you like it so far, I bought a Oneplus 7 pro. But really want the reno 10 x.

MixEvo said:
how do you like it so far, I bought a Oneplus 7 pro. But really want the reno 10 x.
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it's a Stunning device with the best design on the Market.
In my opinion OPPO should work mre to definitively eliminate the Bottom Bezelless ( like just seen on the Vivo Apex 1 prototype ---) but the rest of the fron panel is absolutely incredible.
Amoled display has the same quality of Samsung S10 that i just have and the back cover is absolutely gorgeous .
I had think about neplus 7 Pro but for me is the past. The past because as design is 1 year later from FInd X just released last yead that i just had.

i have made some shots.
Cause i don't want have uploading loss quality i have upped my shots on OneDrive. So my advice for you is to download shots and look from your storage to see real quality.
There are seven comparative shots with same subject. the first 48 MPX and the othen one 10X zoomed. Lastly two simply 48 MPX shots.
Comparative 1
Comparative 2
Comparative 3
Comparative 4
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Comparative 7
shot 1
shot 2

about Reno 10X zoom quality :
1X 2X 6X optical zoom
6X a 10X hybrid zoom
30X digital zoom

comparative 8 48 mpx VS 6X optical zoom
comparative 9 48 mpx VS 2X optical zoom
same subject . Optical zoom 6X and 2X .
0 Loss quality !!!!! Great camera
p.s. download them locally .

Hi Wolfgart,
Thanks for photos, very beautiful, magnifico.
I am interesting too, and i have 2 questions.
The rom is a global rom or chinese, it is multilingual ?
And in video recording mode, the image in x10 is very noisy like if optical zoom doesn't work https://youtu.be/mutHxIaWo4k?t=322 that's true ?

salva52 said:
Hi Wolfgart,
Thanks for photos, very beautiful, magnifico.
I am interesting too, and i have 2 questions.
The rom is a global rom or chinese, it is multilingual ?
And in video recording mode, the image in x10 is very noisy like if optical zoom doesn't work https://youtu.be/mutHxIaWo4k?t=322 that's true ?
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Hello Salva
I bought on the 10/5/2019 The phone
Been my daily driver since then verry happy with it (Didin´t wait for the oneplus 7Pro because of curved glass)
The rom that came with it is Chinese, i will change as soon as i get them global rom (Phone will be out in 6 Jully) the languages present are english and other 18 languages
Looks like your right its making digital zoom instead of optical (Maybe the 13MP camera does not record video)
Any questions just Shoot
Thanks

skydoy said:
Hello Salva
I bought on the 10/5/2019 The phone
Been my daily driver since then verry happy with it (Didin´t wait for the oneplus 7Pro because of curved glass)
The rom that came with it is Chinese, i will change as soon as i get them global rom (Phone will be out in 6 Jully) the languages present are english and other 18 languages
Looks like your right its making digital zoom instead of optical (Maybe the 13MP camera does not record video)
Any questions just Shoot
Thanks
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Bro, i really thing you will not crossflash Global Rom.
Look at Find X story ...
MSMQualcomm can't crossflash chinese rom with Global

wolfgart said:
Bro, i really thing you will not crossflash Global Rom.
Look at Find X story ...
MSMQualcomm can't crossflash chinese rom with Global
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Wont be a problem then, it works just fine as it is
Thanks wolfgart

Got mine today, really like it, but not sure if I will keep it, some reasons in question forums.
Sent from my PCCM00 using Tapatalk

Fir3blade said:
Got mine today, really like it, but not sure if I will keep it, some reasons in question forums.
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Reasons to keep are more than other Reasons

It's nice for sure, especially the hardware. But coming from a OnePlus device I have a really hard time with software.
Another letdown is notifications, just a few are showing on lockscreen, even I granted the in settings.
And there are NO statusbar icons for notifications?? missed some of them.

Hello, where we can buy the phone? Is possible to unlock Oppo bootloader and root? Thanks

tsoureki said:
Hello, where we can buy the phone? Is possible to unlock Oppo bootloader and root? Thanks
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You can have mine

Fir3blade said:
You can have mine
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Why are you so dissapointed with device?

Hmm mostly the software.
Can't change launcher, can't root it, and it's kinda laggy throughout the whole system.
Plus they claim it is a gaming phone, but I am playing 2 easy games from time to time (candy crush and boom beach) and both are lagging that it is impossible to play.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/nex/how-to/guide-vivo-nex-s-apps-safe-to-uninstall-t3813308
Use this guide to remove bloatware/change launcher.

Can anyone comment on speaker quality? Also is it stereo speaker?

wolfgart said:
i have made some shots.
Cause i don't want have uploading loss quality i have upped my shots on OneDrive. So my advice for you is to download shots and look from your storage to see real quality.
There are seven comparative shots with same subject. the first 48 MPX and the othen one 10X zoomed. Lastly two simply 48 MPX shots.
Comparative 1
Comparative 2
Comparative 3
Comparative 4
Comparative 5
Comparative 6
Comparative 7
shot 1
shot 2
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I'm planning to buy Reno 10x ... I have downloaded the pictures which you have uploaded to one drive .... After downloading it I zoomed into the pictures but the details are not so good in the main 48mpx shots as I zoomed in to the pictures... I just wanna know is that there full clarity or seeing them in Reno 10x makes any difference and the 10x shots are looking smudged .... They said it's a lossless zoom... Main reason I'm buying this phone is the camera ... So I just wanna clarify about the camera quality.... Should I buy it or not?

is there a Mi 9T Pro?

All I heard was the mi 9t, and no pro variant.

Seems to be coming a pro version. Dutch phoneseller belsimpel.nl has a link to this device, and they are official xiaomi seller. Might also be to generate some pre-sales just in case....

hopefully it comes.. but first I really need the information that it will be.. if not I will move from my OP3 to the Mi9T (nonPro).. if yes, I will wait..

Ch3ck3rM0n said:
hopefully it comes.. but first I really need the information that it will be.. if not I will move from my OP3 to the Mi9T (nonPro).. if yes, I will wait..
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Me too

I kinda strugle there, the only bonus the 9T Pro would bring is the SD 855 and the higher battery charging as far as i know, and the included charger doesn't support it.
The 9T on the other hand has a new very power efficient (as far as ive read) SD 730 which will mean much longer battery runtime.
So i need some time there.

spychodelics said:
I kinda strugle there, the only bonus the 9T Pro would bring is the SD 855 and the higher battery charging as far as i know, and the included charger doesn't support it.
The 9T on the other hand has a new very power efficient (as far as ive read) SD 730 which will mean much longer battery runtime.
So i need some time there.
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There are more 'tiny' differences to consider.
- 4K 30fps vs 4K 60fps
- No laser autofocus vs laser autofocus
- Single band GPS vs Dual band GPS

Bart1981 said:
There are more 'tiny' differences to consider.
- 4K 30fps vs 4K 60fps
- No laser autofocus vs laser autofocus
- Single band GPS vs Dual band GPS
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Thank you for your input, i didnt know that.

And Sony IMX586 (in the pro) vs Sony IMX582

spychodelics said:
I kinda strugle there, the only bonus the 9T Pro would bring is the SD 855 and the higher battery charging as far as i know, and the included charger doesn't support it.
The 9T on the other hand has a new very power efficient (as far as ive read) SD 730 which will mean much longer battery runtime.
So i need some time there.
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But the Mi 9T Pro has a Super Amoled screen which uses less power than just an Amoled screen, so that may make up for some loss of power from the chip.
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Bart1981 said:
There are more 'tiny' differences to consider.
- 4K 30fps vs 4K 60fps
- No laser autofocus vs laser autofocus
- Single band GPS vs Dual band GPS
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Thanks for the info on the laser autofocus. I was wondering about that as the videos I've seen seem to indicate that the Mi 9T seems to have issues focusing in videos it's creating.

harry2543 said:
And Sony IMX586 (in the pro) vs Sony IMX582
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Yes you are right. That's why the 30FPS vs the 60FPS.

The K20 pro is launching next month in India and they don't have a mi 9 so nothing to worry about from Xiaomi's part
However the global market has a mi 9 which is just 3 months old. My guess is there'll be at least another 3 months wait for the pro varient.

Mi 9t pro is in 3 month an old phone. IMHO a Bad decision to release the non pro first.

Redmi K30 Pro Zoom achieve 120 on dxomark

Finally, Dxomark have a full review about us K30 Pro /Zoom. Yes, Zoom is not exactly the same as K30 Pro/Poco F2 Pro, but almost the same (changing telephoto with macro and OIS)
https://www.dxomark.com/xiaomi-redmi-k30-pro-zoom-edition-camera-review/
No bad after all.
I agree that the ultra angle is the weakest point and that in night mode it could be squeezed a little more. Even so, it is surprising that if it were valued only in a still image, it could possibly be in the top 5.
I think that there is still room to earn the odd extra point with future updates, there are defects that are solvable by software, such as smoothing and loss of texture on some occasions, or even slightly improve the automatic parameters for the ultra-wide angle
In the video section the F2 Pro should lose some point due to the lack of OIS, but in its favor it must be said that EIS does an exceptional job
What do you think?

Yeah that was nice news but would be nice to know how this Poco F2 Pro will get scores

I've been using K30 Pro Zoom Edition and One Plus 8 Pro what i can say is DONT TRUST DXOMARK ?

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Yeah that was nice news but would be nice to know how this Poco F2 Pro will get scores
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Similar. Poco lack of Tele lens but Macro lens is almost the best in his class. OIS could make some point on video, not to much. So final score should be very similar.
Aremeyr said:
I've been using K30 Pro Zoom Edition and One Plus 8 Pro what i can say is DONT TRUST DXOMARK ?
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My brother have a OP8 Pro, and honestly, my Poco make in general better shots and videos (in Stock camera), with GCam are a lot of better (I personally like the more "sharp" of the GCam, although I admit that this is more a matter of what one likes)
I have a good friend who always repeats the same thing. The camera of course matters, as does the software. But more than 50% is still the one behind the camera. Automatic modes are good for taking quick photos and not worrying, But if you want an exceptional result, manual mode is a must to have, and of course knowing what you are doing.

Theliels said:
Similar. Poco lack of Tele lens but Macro lens is almost the best in his class. OIS could make some point on video, not to much. So final score should be very similar.
My brother have a OP8 Pro, and honestly, my Poco make in general better shots and videos (in Stock camera), with GCam are a lot of better (I personally like the more "sharp" of the GCam, although I admit that this is more a matter of what one likes)
I have a good friend who always repeats the same thing. The camera of course matters, as does the software. But more than 50% is still the one behind the camera. Automatic modes are good for taking quick photos and not worrying, But if you want an exceptional result, manual mode is a must to have, and of course knowing what you are doing.
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Ofc it matters who is behind cam but my opinion is that software is most important in cameras. Google is good for that. You can put what camera sensors you want and what photographer to use it but if software is ****, results are ****. And nowadays its very often that normal users are testing the software but i must say that if you clean lens and its sunny day, and you take photo with poco f2 pro, you get very sharp results. but let see what gcam brings in future..
EDIT: stock cam i mean, please take shots and compare it. Gcam is not better? zoom and look details..

Brighter is stock cam and darker is gcam latest urnyx.

Gcam on K30 Ultra?
ok, so K30 Pro Zoom scored high, has OIS, and has the 865 which means it should be able to use Gcam if I can source the Zoom version of the phone? But the K30 Ultra has Mediatek 1000, which means no Gcam right?

Vihru said:
Brighter is stock cam and darker is gcam latest urnyx.
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IMHO, it seems that stock camera is a bit bluffed by the darker zones of the centre, while the Gcam seems more indifferent to that zones.
This can happen also on SLR cams.

Urnyx is now making a crowd funding to get a poco F2 and improve his Gcam.

Theliels said:
Similar. Poco lack of Tele lens but Macro lens is almost the best in his class. OIS could make some point on video, not to much. So final score should be very similar.
My brother have a OP8 Pro, and honestly, my Poco make in general better shots and videos (in Stock camera), with GCam are a lot of better (I personally like the more "sharp" of the GCam, although I admit that this is more a matter of what one likes)
I have a good friend who always repeats the same thing. The camera of course matters, as does the software. But more than 50% is still the one behind the camera. Automatic modes are good for taking quick photos and not worrying, But if you want an exceptional result, manual mode is a must to have, and of course knowing what you are doing.
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OIS can make a huge difference in photo, specially in low light.
IMO the F2 Pro wouldn't be close to the K30 Pro Zoom DXOMark rate

elmonch said:
OIS can make a huge difference in photo, specially in low light.
IMO the F2 Pro wouldn't be close to the K30 Pro Zoom DXOMark rate
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I love Nightshots, and i have a huge gallery with only night/Sky shots. I assure you that it has nothing to envy to the "premium" range terminals. In fact, for me, in night photography (on this device) there is only one small problem, and that is that the glass that protects the lenses is very prone to causing flares when you have a couple of bright light sources and you place one of them in the center. Luckily it can be easily avoided the most time.
As a note, the vast majority of my night photos are handheld, using only the tripod with 2+ seg exposures, generally if I want to take astronomical, or more artistic photos in quiet environments

This doesn't mean much. The camera optimization is different amongst the Mi series, the Redmi series and the Poco series. It seems like the Redmi team did a good job on optimizing the camera on the Redmi K30 Pro Zoom, unlike the Poco team on the Poco F2 Pro.

OnePlus 9 Camera app

So since the OnePlus 9 pro came out I couldn't but notice that the main/selfie camera is the same as our "beloved" 8 pro but if I understood correctly that hasselblad tweaked the 9 pro's camera app. Or was it just the glass?
Anywho is there any difference between the OnePlus 9 pro's camera app and our 8 pro?

I personally do not know. However, I do not believe that they will ever make anything good again. Who the heck needs or wants a frant facing camera, anyway? I mean are we 13-16 year old girls trying to get as many STD's as we can before we hit the wall?

Well personally I love a good front facing camera especially with a wide angle one with a good aperture but that will never happen....
After seeing what op9p has to offer I think OnePlus has lost its touch and my experience with the op8p isn't helping either..

Is anyone working on a port of the APK?
I don't think the hardware is anything to do with the company they collaborated with, so if it's software then it could be portable?
Maybe