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I have ATT. Earlier this year I noticed that my service was pretty bad. At home I would not get service and if I did, it would go on/off. My wife has the Note 5 and she does not have that problem. At the time I had the LeeCo Le Pro 3 phone. I thought it was the phone because I dropped it a few times. So when the OP5 came out, I bought it on the first day. When I got it, I noticed that the problem was still there. I called att and the rep said it was because they turned off the 2g signal at the beginning of the year and the 3g/4g in my area was poor. The reason my wife's Note 5 don't have this issue was because her phone supports wifi calling and mine didn't. The only way to get a new phone.
So is there a way to test to see how good my reception is on the phone compared to my wife's phone?
The OnePlus 5 also supports WiFi calling. At least on T-Mobile, I have no problems. The options are in the SIM settings.
To test cell reception, you can download an app on the play store on both phones to give you a number. Just search "cell reception" or "signal strength". I have not personally use any app.
Try LTE Discovery on both phones.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery
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Devhux said:
Try LTE Discovery on both phones.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.simplyadvanced.ltediscovery
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Can you help me figure out what it means?
OP5 :
LTE : N/A
HSPA+: -130.0 dBm
Att Note 5
LTE: -118.0 dBm
GSM: -113.0 dBm
Pretty much what the AT&T rep said. - 130dBm is a completely unusable 3G (HSPA) signal. The Note 5 has a barely adequate LTE signal, and the 2G (GSM) signal is very poor too.
In general, signals below - 115dBm or so will lead to dropped/choppy calls. The Note 5 might have a slightly better antenna (allowing for the weak LTE signal), but it's still very poor.
Unfortunately, I believe AT&T is similar to the Canadian carriers I use, in that VoLTE or WiFi calling is only available for some of the devices they sell. Sadly this doesn't help your case as you'd probably need Wi-Fi calling to have reliable service where you are
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I had the same problem with Cricket (which uses the AT&T network). I wouldn't be able to make or receive calls in half the rooms in my apartment. I switched to Project Fi and then when I got the OnePlus to MintSim (which uses the T-Mobile network). WiFi calling does work on this phone with MintSim/TMobile although the cell signal is also very strong. You probably don't have any good options that involve staying on AT&T. If you have a contract and can't switch then you would need a phone that supports WiFi calling for AT&T.
Hi Guys,
Im having issues with my Redmi Note 4, 4G Signal. I can get a 4G signal mostly anywhere in Leeds (where i live). But when traveling around with work through other citys i only get H+ (3G?)
The phone works flawlessly on 4G nut seems to struggle on 3G.
Is this a ROM issue or phone issue?
Any help with this would be great.
Thanks
We know how much you like to stream, ahem, "videos", and so cellular data is mega-important. Rate this thread to express how you think the Honor Note 10's LTE performs. A higher rating indicates that it's fantastic: throughput is excellent and signal strength is top-notch.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add.
The WIFI and The LTE signals are so fast and performs well. I am having a great signal both LTE 4G and WIFI.
I confirmed Cricket Wireless gets 3g (H+) and limited 4g (LTE) network in Los Angeles area. I got average speed of 3-4mb up/1mb down 3g, and 5-7mb up/3mb down LTE.
Rikiaic said:
I confirmed Cricket Wireless gets 3g (H+) and limited 4g (LTE) network in Los Angeles area. I got average speed of 3-4mb up/1mb down 3g, and 5-7mb up/3mb down LTE.
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Thank you! I also live in L.A. and am just on the fence about switching from Mi Max 3 to Honor Note 10.
Are you happy given limited LTE?
Did you root your honor?
Thx
cobram3 said:
Thank you! I also live in L.A. and am just on the fence about switching from Mi Max 3 to Honor Note 10.
Are you happy given limited LTE?
Did you root your honor?
Thx
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Cricket has been good, im not complaining provided the wide network availability for the price paid. I have no plan rooting the phone, but if i do, ill post back.
I too was looking at the max 3, but with the SG636 soc compared to this with the Kirin 970, the note 10 will dance around it no sweat. Im just as impressed with the photos taken with the note 10 as well. Anyway, goodluck on ur next purchase!
I have a mi max 3 on at&t and it is nearly impossible to make or recieve calls unless you are outdoors. LTE data works well most of the time, but not "2g", or whatever band the calls go over.
The mi max 3 is much worse than my mi max 2 for voice calling..... The max 2 was also pretty bad at voice calls.
How is the call signal quality on the Note 10? I might switch and dump the max 3 (I don't recommend the max 3!).
Side note: my max 3 has some weird touch screen issue where it detects rapid "ghost" touches that are not real.
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I have a mi max 3 on at&t and it is nearly impossible to make or recieve calls unless you are outdoors. LTE data works well most of the time, but not "2g", or whatever band the calls go over.
The mi max 3 is much worse than my mi max 2 for voice calling..... The max 2 was also pretty bad at voice calls.
How is the call signal quality on the Note 10? I might switch and dump the max 3 (I don't recommend the max 3!).
Side note: my max 3 has some weird touch screen issue where it detects rapid "ghost" touches that are not real.
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Get Honor Note 10 your problems are solve
cobram3 said:
Thank you! I also live in L.A. and am just on the fence about switching from Mi Max 3 to Honor Note 10.
Are you happy given limited LTE?
Did you root your honor?
Thx
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I has both phone my self, i had too buy note 10 because could nearly never use the mi max 3 for talking... Very poor signal, but no problem at all with note 10, note 10 is fantastic. Works like it was a international version [emoji1303]
Guys I live in Europe (Poland) and I would like to buy this device. Do some of you live in Europe and can add something more? Should I buy it
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Guys I live in Europe (Poland) and I would like to buy this device. Do some of you live in Europe and can add something more? Should I buy it
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I live in Denmark... Europe and can just say for me its a really awesone phone reallly.
It works 100% okay for me, go buy it and u will not regret it [emoji1303]
Poland, Nju Mobile (Orange) - LTE with link aggregation works waaay better than my S8+.
Can both sims get 4g LTE or is only one sim 4g and the other maxed at 2g/3g? I currently have the Mediapad X2 and only one can be set to 4g while the other is set to 2g. Not the best setup when I have ATT and Tmobile, since ATT no longer has 2g support. When I have Tmobile set to 4g then ATT has no connection.
Both sim card get 4G LTE therefore phone does not support sd card...?
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is ok.
I have been considering getting the note 10, but have been holding out just in case they planned to come out with another version like Mi Max is coming out with the 10GB ram version. I have the Honor note 8 and it was/is great on att (HSPA+), and am wondering if the 8gb ram /128gb version will work just as well as the honor note 8 that I currently have. Anyone have the 128gb/8gb version in the US and att?
Hello, hope everyone is safe. Question: how many of you use the 5g in the US. Is it reliable? Since i got my mclaren back in December, i only used it once, wasnt happy with it and i have been using lte ever since.
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Hello, hope everyone is safe. Question: how many of you use the 5g in the US. Is it reliable? Since i got my mclaren back in December, i only used it once, wasnt happy with it and i have been using lte ever since.
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I am using it in an area that was pretty weak, and it is working pretty good. It should get much better as the Sprint mid-range frequencies are turned on.
I thought the one plus mclerean was a low band phone not a mid band
last update added band n41, it's even listed on t-mobile site
I came to correct my post. I see that it can handle it just not mmwave or whatever they call it. Which I heard you can't get that through buildings. I only use my phone when I'm indoors
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I thought the one plus mclerean was a low band phone not a mid band
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It is, Sprint has the midband that will be used by Tmo for 5G.
Its good when it works. Theres one spot in town where it says its full bars but internet doesnt want to work until i swtich to lte. Im guessing its just an issue with that tower.
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Its good when it works. Theres one spot in town where it says its full bars but internet doesnt want to work until i swtich to lte. Im guessing its just an issue with that tower.
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T-Mobile's 5G implementation is still pretty new and I've noticed that 5 g can sometimes be slower than LTE. That being said, I suspect that T-Mobile will improve this with time. What is nice is that 5G networks are exclusive to 5G capable phones, meaning congestion can sometimes be better, at least from my understanding. I'm glad to see US carriers finally embracing 5G, despite the fact that it may not be as capable as international variants. Time will tell if we see any significant improvements with 5G coverage.
I have noticed significant improvements in coverage when traveling. My job requires I travel around a lot, since I do electrical work for cell phone towers. Historically,4G LTE coverage with T-Mobile has been spotty in certain parts of the country, but comparing my Pixel 3a XL with LTE coverage versus my McLaren 5G has shown a huge improvement and overall coverage and speed!there have been times where my pixel will get around 5 mbps vs my OP7T Pro McLaren 5G will be hitting well into 80+!
I have seen improvement also. I had to use a TMo booster in my house it was so bad. I have turned it off now.
I sometimes turn off 5G and get better speeds on LTE. But I checked a spectrum map, TMobile doesn't have enough low band spectrum in my specific geographic region. Completing the Sprint merger should help with that, and the 7t McLaren can support the Sprint frequencies with just a software update.
Fortunately I spend almost no time in cities where mmWave would matter, that's the only thing this phone can't do that other 5g phones can.
I have 5g in my rural town but the past two days the network has been acting up they might be working on the towers or something. Even my 4glte kicks of and on including my 5g.....
In my geography 5g is slower than 4g, but I checked a spectrum map and Tmo only has the minimum possible low band spectrum in my city and region. I've heard 5g works better if Tmo has 20mhz or more, and the addition of Dish licencing deals and Sprint spectrum is supposed to help later in 2020.
Anyway I'm usually just staying home using WiFi so it doesn't matter that much at the moment.
I get 110 mbs a second wear side of town and 30 mbs middle of town with 5g but I have a constant connection with 5g with 4g lte I sometimes have to reload pages cause of congestion
Summary: The SIM card that came in the box for McLaren 5g says TM with 4 numbers. Can I use 5G standalone mode? Read on for why this matters.
I'm using an old SIM, and I recently get a text message from TMO that I should upgrade my sim, pointing to http://t-mo.co/5GSIM
But on that page is says the following:
R15: If you see R15 in pink on the SIM card, you're all set!
TMXXXX: If you see TM followed by 4 numbers, you need to switch to the new SIM that came with your device.
It's fully capable of it with the x55 modem. However, T-Mobile owns the permission for this phone to get on SA 5G. Will need an update.
C-NET Article: "T-mobiles-5g-network-upgrade-means-better-indoor-and-rural-coverage" states:
(sorry no link, jr member)
Regarding SA 5G "T-Mobile will also add support for the new network to the Galaxy Note 10 Plus 5G and OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren that were released in 2019 via a software update, however no timeline has yet been given for when that update will arrive. "
That being said, T-Mobile is explicit. You must have the R15 SIM, a capable SA 5G device and be in a SA coverage area.
Get your R15 SIM. Be ready.
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That being said, T-Mobile is explicit. You must have the R15 SIM, a capable SA 5G device and be in a SA coverage area.
Get your R15 SIM. Be ready.
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Fair enough. I stopped by a T-Mobile store and got a new R15 SIM. So now to wait for the upgrade. Or maybe just buy a new device lol.
https://prepaid.t-mobile.com/browse-phones
i ordered and got r15 sim last week. far right on prepaid phones page "2020 sim"
since i didn't order a plan it cost $10 w/ free 2 day shipping. anxiously awaiting update.
The McLaren doesn't have SA yet, but there's some FCC docs showing that it's coming soon. I'll probably have to get one of these R15 sims as well.
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https://prepaid.t-mobile.com/browse-phones
i ordered and got r15 sim last week. far right on prepaid phones page "2020 sim"
since i didn't order a plan it cost $10 w/ free 2 day shipping. anxiously awaiting update.
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Thanks for the info. I know we'll get the update eventually. Hadn't heard of the new SIM card requirements. Just ordered mine for $10. Hope they send the new kind. Ordered the 2020 one.
For what it's worth. I went and got the new sim, for free, after work when that text message was sent by t-mobile. My biggest complaint about this phone is that my texting, whether I use the stock app, or install google messages and try to go RCS, has always had issues, especially over WiFi. But after the sim swap, I have ZERO texting issues, it all works exactly as advertised, RCS through Google messages as well. I believe my previous sim card had been around since I bought my Note 4. So for anyone have texting issues especially, get the new sim card, especially with 5G SA on the horizon for this phone. I just took my wife's S20+ over to get the sim upgrade last night, and now it natively connects to 5G NR. Impressive.
That being said, I'm probably going to jump ship to either the pixel 4a 5G of pixel 5, but purchasing one from google for that precious unlockable bootloader. It's been a year since I upgraded from my 6T, and I really miss having viper4audio in the car for streaming.
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I called T-Mobile customer service, requested the R15 SIM.
First call the rep asked..."do you get 5G on your phone right now?" "yeah then you don't need one of these, you got what you needed in an update that was pushed out to your phone"
Second call...took 15 minutes explaining to the rep what I wanted, supervisor involved, had to read them my IMEI, etc. Said they mailed it. Nothing arrived.
Third attempt, walked right into a T-Mobile store. They knew exactly. In and out 10 mins, no charge.
I brought my 8 5G in with me to avoid any guff. Of course that worked.
I popped it into my 7TP McLaren, it hasn't left it since.
It's so clean. No more slow texts, no weird service pauses as it figured out how to get from LTE to 5G to Wi-Fi and back.
Happy, but I want to know WHY on that part there.
""this is an initial update for new 5G stand alone technology" new update today
Upgrading to the new r15 sim also fixed my wifi calling and texting since I switched to the mclaren. Holy crap, I only upgraded for the 5g
The 39 update was released yesterday and enabled SA. I confirmed it works by using the debug menu to force my phone into NR mode, unfortunately the result of a speed test were pretty disappointing.
On a more positive note, the LTE speeds at my house are faster than ever. ?
I've got no sim after this update....guess I'm stopping by the T-Mobile OTW home.
"5G" lol. I had a "Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G Plus" for a few months and more than once I found my phone with no internet. I had perfect 5G signal, and no internet. I rebooted, nothing. I then disabled 5G, forcing it to 4G-LTE, and suddenly I had internet. 5G uses different towers, and apparently they can lose internet and the phone doesn't realize it. The only reason T-Mobile, and every other carrier, is pushing 5G is to get the congestion off their 4G-LTE towers. But I digress. At this point, due to my 5G issues in the area, I don't care for 5G one way or another. I eventually couldn't stand the Galaxy S20 any longer so I sold it and bought this OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren 5G used on ebay. I could care less about its 5G capabilities. Nice to have but not a deal-breaker for me. I was going to hold onto this 7T Pro 5G for a few months and then try and pickup a used 8T Pro, but apparently that's not happening. I don't know if I should get an 8T or not, I may just see if there's a 9 Pro. I don't mind waiting, this 7T Pro 5G smokes the Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G in terms of everyday usability.
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"5G" lol. I had a "Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G Plus" for a few months and more than once I found my phone with no internet. I had perfect 5G signal, and no internet. I rebooted, nothing. I then disabled 5G, forcing it to 4G-LTE, and suddenly I had internet. 5G uses different towers, and apparently they can lose internet and the phone doesn't realize it. The only reason T-Mobile, and every other carrier, is pushing 5G is to get the congestion off their 4G-LTE towers. But I digress. At this point, due to my 5G issues in the area, I don't care for 5G one way or another. I eventually couldn't stand the Galaxy S20 any longer so I sold it and bought this OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren 5G used on ebay. I could care less about its 5G capabilities. Nice to have but not a deal-breaker for me. I was going to hold onto this 7T Pro 5G for a few months and then try and pickup a used 8T Pro, but apparently that's not happening. I don't know if I should get an 8T or not, I may just see if there's a 9 Pro. I don't mind waiting, this 7T Pro 5G smokes the Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G in terms of everyday usability.
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That's the way Verizon's mmWave 5G works (which is insanely fast but also completely useless because it only works outdoors while walking and needs towers every 500 to 1000 feet which will only be installed in the most crowded sections of the most crowded metro areas). T-Mobile uses same towers for 3G/4G LTE/5G NR as they all use the same frequencies (600 to 2500 MHz). Not 60 Ghz garbage that can't travel more than quarter mile or even pass through glass or your hand. That's also why T-Mobile was able to roll out low-band 600MHz 5G to virtually the entire country in such a short time. Because it can travel over 10 miles from tower to indoor phone. Now T-Mobile is working on adding more bandwidth to low-band 5G along with rolling out the mid-band 2500Mhz 5G which will be where the real speed is. It's already out in 300+ cities and will be 1000+ by end of year. That's where the speed will be. 300mbps+ to start. And it'll work indoors and while driving too lol. And my phone is all ready, willing, and able
Anyone know how do you check if you have a newer sim for the 5g SA support?
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Anyone know how do you check if you have a newer sim for the 5g SA support?
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https://www.tmonews.com/2020/09/t-mobile-standalone-5g-r15-sim-card-customers/
What about mvno users on mint or metro?
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What about mvno users on mint or metro?
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No new sim, no SA 5G support. You can test it out yourself by dialing *#*#4636#*#* (has to be from the default OnePlus dialer/phone app while set as default dialer app in settings, apps, default apps -- Won't work with Google Dialer/phone app.), click phone information, and set preferred network type to NR only.
If you get data (with WiFi off), then SA 5G is working. If you get no signal, SA 5G isn't working. However, calls will not work in SA 5G (NR only mode) with WiFi calling off because the X55 modem doesn't support VoNR. So once you test, set it back to how it was so VoLTE calls start working again. To my knowledge, no phones have the X60 modem yet, so no device can access VoNR/make calls when set to NR Only (wifi calling solves this but that requires wifi)
This was a life saver a few days ago in the aftermath of Hurricane Zeta. 95%+ of the entire NOLA metro area and major surrounding suburbs were without power. And the 4G LTE network was so slow it might have been off from hundreds of thousands of people all trying to use it at the same time (and so was NSA 5G because it depends on 4G LTE to set up a connection and also some signalling to make it actually work -- I had full bars on both). I forced it to "NR Only"/SA 5G and my data speeds went from too slow to browse the internet, much less stream video, to well over 110 mbps. Didn't care phone calls weren't working at that point haha.
SA 5G for the win!! :good: