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Hey guys, I just upgraded from a crappy old HTC 3D Evo phone, and I never cared much for it due to its buggy software so I never really cared to take care of it or preserve it in any way. I initially picked up a Samsung Galaxy S5, but my friend told me the LG G3 was better and cheaper. Some brief research led me to the same conclusion so I traded in my $650 Samsung S5 for the $600 LG G3. Bigger screen, 50% more memory, 100% more storage - it's a no brainer, isn't it?
Are there any experienced users who would care to share what they'd do to optimize the phone? By optimize, I mean increasing battery life, performance, usability, convenience, and basically anything relating to those categories. I'm considering rooting the phone to get the most out of it. Never rooted a phone before, but I don't find it daunting (especially with all the guides). I just want to get rid of any background bloat, and set up my phone so that it uses the battery minimally unless I'm using it, and I possibly might even want to just run it at 1080P for superior battery life and performance. I've heard of people underclocking the CPU when the screen is turned off and was wondering if that was beneficial or worth doing. I just want my phone to be lean, efficient, and extremely considerate of the battery life. The one thing I actually appreciated about the S5 was the ability to run it in Ultra Power Saver mode which did a great job at running the phone in a lean state when I wasn't actively using it - if I could do anything similar to that, that'd be cool.
Any general tips or personal preferences on how use their phone is appreciated.
(P.S. I posted this here in the General Section instead of Q&A because the Q&A forum seemed to be filled with threads of people having specific problems, while I'm trying to create a thread that could be potentially useful to anyone who just grabbed the phone and wants to know experienced user's opinions on maintaining the optimizing the device)
To tell you the truth I dont think you can get too far without root. So that would be my nmbr 1 advice
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Root/greenify some apps using the battery/Nova launcher
Vivasanti said:
Root/greenify some apps using the battery/Nova launcher
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Is it okay to root using that 1-touch root program or do you recommend a specific way? I'll be sure to grab Greenify and I just downloaded Nova Launcher. Is Greenify the only battery-related app I should be looking at? I looked around the Play store and many of them seem to be heavy on bloat, useless features, and advertising.
Thank you :highfive:
Is there any apps that manage my network signals intelligently? For example, if I'm at my house, it uses Wi-fi for data and turns off mobile data antennas? Or is that unnecessary or a bad idea? Wi-fi does use less power than 3G, correct?
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Is it okay to root using that 1-touch root program or do you recommend a specific way? I'll be sure to grab Greenify and I just downloaded Nova Launcher. Is Greenify the only battery-related app I should be looking at? I looked around the Play store and many of them seem to be heavy on bloat, useless features, and advertising.
Thank you :highfive:
Is there any apps that manage my network signals intelligently? For example, if I'm at my house, it uses Wi-fi for data and turns off mobile data antennas? Or is that unnecessary or a bad idea? Wi-fi does use less power than 3G, correct?
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First, go with Stump Root at the LG G3 Original Android Development section.
Second, greenify is great. Use it wisely. There are other good battery saving apps around there, but you should be careful with the fake ones. I'm currently using Unbounce for wakelock optimizing, but there is also wakelock detector which is great.
Third, about the data... well, I used to have a smart radio feature with a custom rom back on the Nexus 4. But I dont think you will find any app to do that easily. For that, you could try Tasker, which is great but not so simple of configure. But the possibilities are endless.
Welcome and good luck!
Use wakelock detector/betterbatterystats to identify what you need to greenify
I use green power as an effective battery saving app, as well as greenify, xposed unbounce etc
Awesome recommendations, digging Greenify a lot, and Stump was ridiculously easy to use. I saw someone recommend Deep Sleep Battery Saver in another thread and I've been liking that as well. Next step is I plan to use 1080P tweak in this thread, this CPU thermal throttling mod, and these speed-boost tweaks.
With all of these changes, my G5 should be very speedy compared to stock as well as much more considerate of battery life. When/if LG fixes the sharpening, I might switch back to 1440p.
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Great guide. Going to the Tor recommendation however... It's a bit sketchy as lately people have been implanting malicious code. I personally recommend shadowsocks. It isn't a VPN but rather a Proxy. It uses socks5 which is the latest and greatest in terms of encryption algorithms. If it doesn't suit your needs then look at OpenVPN
And in place of cCleaner, I recommend SD Maid Pro as it can clean system databases and applications so long as you have root.
Another Xposed module to check out is XinternalSD as you can force apps to use external storage
X-plore is great, but look at Solid Explorer as well. It's really great.
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Great guide. Going to the Tor recommendation however... It's a bit sketchy as lately people have been implanting malicious code. I personally recommend shadowsocks. It isn't a VPN but rather a Proxy. It uses socks5 which is the latest and greatest in terms of encryption algorithms. If it doesn't suit your needs then look at OpenVPN
And in place of cCleaner, I recommend SD Maid Pro as it can clean system databases and applications so long as you have root.
Another Xposed module to check out is XinternalSD as you can force apps to use external storage
X-plore is great, but look at Solid Explorer as well. It's really great.
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More than the solid exp, x-plore can be used with very much ease. And thank you for shadowsocks. I will try and come up. Until wikileaks use tor, itll be safe .XinternalSD, it doesn't matter much I feel, I know that already.
Can you post screenshots of your SoT ?
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Okay. Next time I release my phone from charge I'll reset stats and tell you.
Do you suggest the Boeffla-Kernel if you are heavy on games and also need your phone to stay up the whole day with Wi-Fi and Mobile Data on.
I am seriously considering your advice.
I got 69k but that's irrelevant anyways, the phone perform wells and its fast in general. if i setup my phone to last longer it wont get 69k of course, as i said still its fast so numbers not realy important.
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Do you suggest the Boeffla-Kernel if you are heavy on games and also need your phone to stay up the whole day with Wi-Fi and Mobile Data on.
I am seriously considering your advice.
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Look, the phone wont run the whole day if you run heavy games. That's for any kernel, because the battery has only a capacity of 2525mAh. youll get an sot of abt 5-6 hrs without games. with undervolting, 4% charge goes every fifa game. So, the you cant use the phone with heavy gaming the whole day but 2-4 hrs. If you have mobile data and wifi running, andplay no games you can get it upp to 5-6 hrs yeah.
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I got 69k but that's irrelevant anyways, the phone perform wells and its fast in general. if i setup my phone to last longer it wont get 69k of course, as i said still its fast so numbers not realy important.
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yeah, obviously nos. arent important. If you use a h2os and the settings i told, youll like get 70k or even more. I like OOs more than h2os. so yeah...
"2. Get cCleaner from the play store and clean your system often."
There I stopped reading.
I doubt installing YouTube background player to put my phone among the top devices.
The most tips are common around xda users. The other tips are just spamming software. You should've just shared your boefla profile in the boefla sharing thread. In this way you also would have contributed in the development of boefla.
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I doubt installing YouTube background player to put my phone among the top devices.
The most tips are common around xda users. The other tips are just spamming software. You should've just shared your boefla profile in the boefla sharing thread. In this way you also would have contributed in the development of boefla.
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Top devices didn't mean benchmark and performance. It meant the overall benefit of the device... And yes, I will post my profile to that thread.
Sure those mods have helped you score 65k, when normally you should have got only 50k.
Regarding cCleaner, its a nice free and lite app for managing phone apps and viewing system info too - nothing wrong having it installed.
Thanks much!
Great efforts!
Hello fellow Pixel users!
Just wanted to take a minute and start a small discussion with you about stuff that only works with root. Maybe you feel the same.
As an Android user from day 1, I always enjoyed the general "openness" of Android compared to other mobile OSs and used to frequently try out new custom ROMs, play with all the system UI tuner options and obviously got used to having a decent adblocker.
But ever since I got a Pixel XL, I was honestly surprised by the relatively small amount of ROMs and general lack of development on XDA regarding the Pixel phones. At least compared to previous phones I owned, with the exception of the Blackberry Classic maybe...
(Obviously I don't want to discredit the folks that ARE working on these devices. You're awesome and your work is very appreciated!)
Right now, I only use root for AdAway, Nova Launcher (for turning off the screen and locking it with a double tap) and Ex Kernel Manager (even though I never used it or changed any of the settings).
So what I really want to talk about is, what do you use root for? Or why did you unlock your bootloader? Is there something I'm missing?
TL,DR: Did you root your phone or unlock the bootloader? Why?
Yes and yes.
I will always run an unlocked bootloader. It's a security safety net. If my phone bricks, I have the option to flash factory images. I can always return to stock if something goes wrong.
Root, yes, of course. Because Android.
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If my phone bricks, I have the option to flash factory images. I can always return to stock if something goes wrong.
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Those are great points! You're absolutely right!
But what about apps or system tweaks? You said "Because Android" but how is your experience different from someone who didn't root?
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Those are great points! You're absolutely right!
But what about apps or system tweaks? You said "Because Android" but how is your experience different from someone who didn't root?
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Root privileged apps- adaway, titanium backup, modded YouTube, modded Spotify, SD Maid, Substratum and a few others.
Also, custom kernel with customized color profile for a more vibrant display.
I also enjoy themeing my own device so having root is necessary for me.
I also need to root, well, BECAUSE ANDROID
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Root privileged apps- adaway, titanium backup, modded YouTube, modded Spotify, SD Maid, Substratum and a few others.
Also, custom kernel with customized color profile for a more vibrant display.
I also enjoy themeing my own device so having root is necessary for me.
I also need to root, well, BECAUSE ANDROID
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U don't need root for substratum on my 8.1 and use Andromeda add on for rootless substratum
I feel like going back to nougat and root for Xposed though...
Thanks for the suggestions!
If you ask me:
Not a fan of TB (restoring often causes problems)
or SD Maid (some cache is important and shouldn't be deleted - except for uninstalled apps),
Substratum is way too buggy for me (at least I can't seem to find a theme without bugs)
and I probably shouldn't ask about those modded apps on here, even though they sound interesting. I guess I'll have to Google that. :laugh:
After looking through Ex Kernel Manager, I can't seem to find anything that I'd want to use or fiddle with. The phone is fast enough, so no overclock. The colors are fine, so no tuning needed. And all the other stuff looks dangerous...
Where are all the awesome system UI options though? I'd love to have my clock in the center of the status bar and display battery percentage INSTEAD of the icon. I know that those are usually coded into custom ROMs but there are no 8.1 ROMs...
Oh, how I'd love to see an 8.1 DU ROM working flawlessly...
Edit: Why go back to Nougat and why use Xposed? I don't get what the big deal is about Xposed nowadays. I used it a few years ago but only because of one or two add-ons, if I recall that correctly.
I have center clock on 8.1 using a Substratum theme.
Also, you can choose to select battery percentage next to the battery icon in 8.1 battery settings.
Once source code gets released for 8.1, the SystemUI can be deodexed which will allow for 3minit battery mod to work. I believe 3minit requires root.
Reasons are getting thin aren't they. AdAway, TB, and Tasker (HBM and single tap sleep(without device admin permission thus required pin)). TB makes life easier but not a necessity. Different device wouldn't need HBM most likely. So basically it comes down to AdAway which I'm pretty sure I'd go nuts without.
TB, Tasker, lucky patcher, greenify, acr (automatic call recorder), ad away. And generally being able to mess with things.
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TB, Tasker, lucky patcher, greenify, acr (automatic call recorder), ad away. And generally being able to mess with things.
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"Generally being able to mess with things" is the most accurate response this question for those who love Android at its core.
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"Generally being able to mess with things" is the most accurate response this question for those who love Android at its core.
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That's the technical term for it at least.
I'm down to one reason and I found out about it a few months back actually. Without it I probably wouldn't bother.
Assertive display - visibility outdoors in the freaking sun with sunglasses on? Heck yeah! The most annoying part is that it just takes two lines added to the build.prop file. If I could do this without root I sure as hell would.
Adaway
Thanks for all your answers!
This basically proves my point though in my opinion. Having a rooted Android device used to be such an open playground for fun stuff and now it's mostly just about adblockers and minor tweaks apart from a few apps that still take advantage of it like Tasker and TB.
At least the phones nowadays are fast as hell and have insane cameras. I just wish it would be more sci-fi-y if you know what I mean. Phones aren't just gadgets anymore, they're expensive pieces of hardware that seem to improve upon basic things that we could do for years.
Android updates used to have lots of cool new features with every new version number that was released and now they just seem to improve upon what they can already do and sometimes take features away or even lock them to specific phones (looking at the guy who thought it was a great idea to make stuff like "motion pictures" a feature only on Pixel 2 devices even though our device had the feature available for a day).
Guess I'll take this opportunity to spend less time messing around with tons of options and just be thankful for what they can do now. Like playing stupid gambling-like games with ps1-graphics on a device with a quad-core and 4GB of RAM. :laugh:
Am I the only one who gets turned off by games that have reviewers saying "addictive" and "great time-killer"? This thing could play GTA 4 and tons of people rather spend a hundred bucks on candy crush...
Whatever, it's all good. I guess I just have different expectations.
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Thanks for all your answers!
This basically proves my point though in my opinion. Having a rooted Android device used to be such an open playground for fun stuff and now it's mostly just about adblockers and minor tweaks apart from a few apps that still take advantage of it like Tasker and TB.
At least the phones nowadays are fast as hell and have insane cameras. I just wish it would be more sci-fi-y if you know what I mean. Phones aren't just gadgets anymore, they're expensive pieces of hardware that seem to improve upon basic things that we could do for years.
Android updates used to have lots of cool new features with every new version number that was released and now they just seem to improve upon what they can already do and sometimes take features away or even lock them to specific phones (looking at the guy who thought it was a great idea to make stuff like "motion pictures" a feature only on Pixel 2 devices even though our device had the feature available for a day).
Guess I'll take this opportunity to spend less time messing around with tons of options and just be thankful for what they can do now. Like playing stupid gambling-like games with ps1-graphics on a device with a quad-core and 4GB of RAM. :laugh:
Am I the only one who gets turned off by games that have reviewers saying "addictive" and "great time-killer"? This thing could play GTA 4 and tons of people rather spend a hundred bucks on candy crush...
Whatever, it's all good. I guess I just have different expectations.
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You are right! I was also using root just for the 3 reasons you specified! Adaway is the biggest reason. There are other solutions, but nothing that reliable. And next biggest is Ex Kernel Manager to set up double tap to wake without lockscreen.
As for the motion photos, you still can get it. You need to download that version of Google Camera APK and disable updates. I am using it and it looks good. But it works only in Google Photos App. So not that useful as well!
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I'm down to one reason and I found out about it a few months back actually. Without it I probably wouldn't bother.
Assertive display - visibility outdoors in the freaking sun with sunglasses on? Heck yeah! The most annoying part is that it just takes two lines added to the build.prop file. If I could do this without root I sure as hell would.
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My quick reasons for bootloader unlocking and rooting mirror many of the others here:
1) Ability to flash factory images in a recovery situation.
2) Titanium Backup - although I haven't had to actually use this to recover anything other than a specific app or 2 in the past few years.
3) Adaway
4) Ability to modify build.prop to leverage native hotspot/tethering (Verizon GUDP)
I am interested in learning more about Assertive Display and the differences between it and Adaptive Brightness. My understanding is that Assertive Display works separately from Adaptive Brightness and actually adjusts the tone/color/contrast of individual display pixels to optimize viewing in bright sunlight. Theoretically, this allows you to turn down screen brightness to achieve better viewing/contrast in bright conditions. Can you provide the link to directions you used to enable Assertive Display? Also - does it play well with Adaptive Brightness - or do you need to manually tweak screen brightness to account for Assertive Display?
Thanks!
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My quick reasons for bootloader unlocking and rooting mirror many of the others here:
1) Ability to flash factory images in a recovery situation.
2) Titanium Backup - although I haven't had to actually use this to recover anything other than a specific app or 2 in the past few years.
3) Adaway
4) Ability to modify build.prop to leverage native hotspot/tethering (Verizon GUDP)
I am interested in learning more about Assertive Display and the differences between it and Adaptive Brightness. My understanding is that Assertive Display works separately from Adaptive Brightness and actually adjusts the tone/color/contrast of individual display pixels to optimize viewing in bright sunlight. Theoretically, this allows you to turn down screen brightness to achieve better viewing/contrast in bright conditions. Can you provide the link to directions you used to enable Assertive Display? Also - does it play well with Adaptive Brightness - or do you need to manually tweak screen brightness to account for Assertive Display?
Thanks!
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When I first enabled this I left my brightness at the same 50% level with the auto brightness left on. It works really well in conjunction with the normal brightness level settings. Maybe turning the brightness down could yeild better battery results but I was never one to complain by the Pixel XL's battery life.
This video from Android Authority here explains it well. I actually randomly got to the video at around midnight on YouTube a few months back. Phone wasn't rooted so I did root it in the middle of the night and followed this topic from the XDA forums to change the build.prop file. Applied the changes, rebooted phone and... Realized I have no real way to test it. Went to my kitchen's aspirator and switched the lights on, brought the phone under there super close at a very steep angle and I could still see it perfectly fine.
TL;DR - this is a great addition to the already standard brightness levels, works like magic, and hey, you can always revert if you end up not liking it.
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When I first enabled this I left my brightness at the same 50% level with the auto brightness left on. It works really well in conjunction with the normal brightness level settings. Maybe turning the brightness down could yeild better battery results but I was never one to complain by the Pixel XL's battery life.
This video from Android Authority here explains it well. I actually randomly got to the video at around midnight on YouTube a few months back. Phone wasn't rooted so I did root it in the middle of the night and followed this topic from the XDA forums to change the build.prop file. Applied the changes, rebooted phone and... Realized I have no real way to test it. Went to my kitchen's aspirator and switched the lights on, brought the phone under there super close at a very steep angle and I could still see it perfectly fine.
TL;DR - this is a great addition to the already standard brightness levels, works like magic, and hey, you can always revert if you end up not liking it.
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Thanks so much for the detail. I'm going to give it a whirl right now!
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Thanks so much for the detail. I'm going to give it a whirl right now!
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You're welcome! One thing I forgot to mention - don't bother with the flashable ZIP. It's more work than editing the build.prop file and it actually doesn't work on 8 and up. 7.1.2 was OK with it but I noticed it wasn't quite right on 8 when I tried to flash it even though it said it flashed with no errors.
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You are right! I was also using root just for the 3 reasons you specified! Adaway is the biggest reason. There are other solutions, but nothing that reliable. And next biggest is Ex Kernel Manager to set up double tap to wake without lockscreen.
As for the motion photos, you still can get it. You need to download that version of Google Camera APK and disable updates. I am using it and it looks good. But it works only in Google Photos App. So not that useful as well!
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Thanks! I actually did disable auto update once I had it and still have the APK. Don't know if it works after a fresh install of 8.1 though. I guess I'll try later. Google's Motion Stills as an alternative just feels weird to me.
I think it's a neat feature though. Sometimes it really helps bring a moment back to life, more than a still picture would. Especially when it's snowing or raining.
That new AR stickers thing is also funny but it needs better content IMO. Two of the packs are basically ads for the StarWars movies and Stranger Things.
I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since day one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?
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I see others are having issues with the phone being sluggish and freezing - requiring a forced restart. I've had these issues since say one, but the phone is just so damn beautiful to stop using.
I've tried everything I have seen on this site including factory resets and manually adding apps back in (in lieu of restoring from Google). Still happens.
I've been emailing back and forth with Essential customer service, and while they're responsive, I'm getting frustrated.
They asked me to use it in Safe Mode for a couple days, and I had no issues. So they concluded it's an app causing the problem. So they want me to do another factory reset, and then add apps back one at a time for a few days to see if I can pinpoint which app(s) are causing the issue. I have 100+ apps on the phone - this will take months to do!
My comment to them (that they didn't appreciate) is that if they want to compete with the flagship phones of other OEM's the phone should be able to handle any app you you throw at is, and I have no issues with my ZTE Axon 7 running the exact same apps.
Am I off base here? Any other suggestions?
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You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.
I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement
I've been running N 7.1.1 since I got the phone 2 weeks ago and the performance has been stellar, scrolling is smooth and fast, no freezes at all, after reading the issues with 8.1 beta (battery drain, wifi etc.) I'm in no rush to upgrade....
I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.
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You are off base.
There are apps that can cause issues and no manufacturer can guarantee the performance of their device with any and all apps in the PlayStore.
There are apps that have memory leaks, wake events, etc. and there is no way for them to contain any/all errant apps, nor should they.
I suggest Greenify to look at app behavior and see what isn't sleeping and taking resources.
You can also look at the battery stats and see what app is burning battery.
Social media apps are typically bad.
Things like Pet Rescue and Candy Crush can also cause issues.
Make sure you limit which apps can do notifications and limit those to SMS and email apps.
Good luck.
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Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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InfDaMarvel said:
I am on 7.1.1, came here after searching google seeing if they'll ever do this android Oreo Update. I have some phantom touches on my touchscreen. Thank god this phone was cheap. That S9 keeps looking better and better.
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yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!
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yes the Samsung will be issue free? dream on! no phone is issue free. I really like the essential and they are right you have to locate the bad app yourself.
because the open structure of android. app builders can really destroy the user experience on your phone.
if you don't want that? buy an iPhone.
for sure the app will destroy the performance of an s9 as well!
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The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!
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The touchscreen issue is related to hardware from what I can see and have read. Performance issues for me are related to memory management and the fact that I use a lot of memory hogging applications. Don't get me wrong just because your experience has been stellar the. I think it's a cool phone. Just not good enough for me to continue using it for another year. The Samsung...I specifically said the S9 because of extra ram and its top of the line screen. Which you can deny if you want but it's true. Best in class screen. They even make the iPhones screen. This phone was cheap so it was worth it for me because I enjoy tech regardless of the flaws. Just need that official oreo update!
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S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...
Jostian said:
S9 is also 4 Gig RAM just like our PH-1, no extra RAM...
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S9+ to be exact
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S9+ to be exact
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Yip S9+
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look I had the S8 and it was stellar, but was looking for some cash so sold my S8 for $620 and bought the PH-1 for $450, and I'm really impressed so far, ok sure I dont to rocket science etc on the phone so I'm a pretty light user, but on 7.1.1 its been superb since day 1, smooth, snappy and better battery than the S8.
Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.
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Thanks for your honesty. I'm giving greenify a shot though I still think a phone like this should not need something like this.
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Started using Greenify, but to work as intended, it requires you to set it as a Device Admin. When doing this, it disables the fingerprint sensor.
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Agreed with all above. Apps are the issue for any phone. I have a zoo of different makes & models. to compare. Social bs apps are the worst. Even google's own are bad enough. Just do a quick search on ""worst apps for draining battery" and start cleaning your phone.
PH-1 Oreo 8.1 power drain is almost nothing comparing to the rest of the 'stable' world. If you don't like to experiment, stay on stable 7.1 until 8.1 is released.
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Yes, am in no rush to go to Oreo as 7.1.1 is so solid for me
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why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?
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I would highly recommend testing the Oreo 8.1 beta. HUGE performance improvement
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Ditto here.My 7.1.1 was acting up.Oreo has been butter.Some nice tweaks built in as well.Pic in Pic is cool and useful.As is the floating dialer.
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why not wait for the oneplus 6? all oneplus phones have tons of memory?
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I'd say that RAM is not an issue here. The software causes phone performance to degrade. 8.1 works fine for me. Hardware itself in PH-1 is awesome. And price tag beats OnePlus and many others. ??
So far, the Oreo OTA update has been great. No issues like I had on Nougat. Hope this remains.
Is there a way to root the Samsung s10 plus?
Magisk, patch boot image and flash it with odin.
**Didn't try it** since i don't need root, but it was the way to root all my previous phone without TWRP.
mx3racer said:
Is there a way to root the Samsung s10 plus?
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Cannot be done yet. Stay tuned to the forums (particularly Rom/kernel/dev dicussion etc.) for updates on TWRP & Magisk support for the S10/S10+/S10e
Yeah, awaiting to root my 975F too.
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Cannot be done yet. Stay tuned to the forums (particularly Rom/kernel/dev dicussion etc.) for updates on TWRP & Magisk support for the S10/S10+/S10e
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Why? Magisk Canary support s10, right? https://www.xda-developers.com/magisk-canary-update-support-aonly-system-root-android-pie/
Looking forward to root my S10+ (G975F)
Hopefully Customs Roms too
Root Samsung Galxy S10 plus using Magisk canary
Here is a detailed guide on How to Root Samsung Galaxy S10/S10+/S10e using Magisk canary. Do remember that Samsung has introduced "Vaultkeeper" feature which makes it a little different to root latest Samsung devices.
Who would want to root a device like this!? And why?
leoking3 said:
Who would want to root a device like this!? And why?
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Samsung has made these steps complicated so that only the most enthusiastic people would want to try rooting.
Android manufacturers are starting to follow the footsteps of Apple. They are also not wanting people to mess with their devices. Huawei has also stopped providing unlock codes for their smartphones.
not sure why exactly you want to root s10+.
you can customize this device 100% and also block all those bloatwares without rooting.. so think again
There are many reasons to want to root a device which include systemwide add blocking, Titanium backup, uninstalling rather than disabling bloatware, etc. Perhaps this way of thinking of the reason for why the majority of new Pixel 3Xl buyers came from Samsung devices. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-churn-report-974588/
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Eudeferrer said:
There are many reasons to want to root a device which include systemwide add blocking, Titanium backup, uninstalling rather than disabling bloatware, etc. Perhaps this way of thinking of the reason for why the majority of new Pixel 3Xl buyers came from Samsung devices. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-churn-report-974588/
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well, im a user who used to root every single samsung device. but i never root my s10. i managed to block ALL my ads using adguard. Why would i need Titanium backup when i can use package disabler and do the same thing (oh and by the way i still have a Pro titanium key and i love that app). i dont see a big difference between disabling bloatwares and uninstalling them. as long as they are not coming up im ok with that.
Try and search the disadvantages of rooting. Last time yes, you need to root your device to customize but now without root you can use your phone with all those so called unlocked features. just FYI my battery last for 26hours+ with 7-8 hours SOT.
Just my 2cents
happy rooting.
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Here is a detailed guide on How to Root Samsung Galaxy S10/S10+/S10e using Magisk canary. Do remember that Samsung has introduced "Vaultkeeper" feature which makes it a little different to root latest Samsung devices.
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This is only for the international S10 plus right? Thanks In advance!!!
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First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone.
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well, im a user who used to root every single samsung device. but i never root my s10. i managed to block ALL my ads using adguard. Why would i need Titanium backup when i can use package disabler and do the same thing (oh and by the way i still have a Pro titanium key and i love that app). i dont see a big difference between disabling bloatwares and uninstalling them. as long as they are not coming up im ok with that.
Try and search the disadvantages of rooting. Last time yes, you need to root your device to customize but now without root you can use your phone with all those so called unlocked features. just FYI my battery last for 26hours+ with 7-8 hours SOT.
Just my 2cents
happy rooting.
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First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds, which means you can and will still see adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period, so the only way is through root. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone. In addition, there are certain levels of customization which can only be optained through rooting ex.. 3minit battery, etc... .And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager. Yes, I agree root is less of a necessity today than it was years ago. However, for some, it is essential and a choice they don't wish to relinquish to OEMs. Yes, there are genuine dangers to rooting. But it is a choice each individual should make for themselves, not one made by the OEM. Just, my 2 cents.
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wouldn't root a phone when using samsung pay and pass.
used to do titanium backup and remove unused apps but when system update comes, i couldn't restore them to original condition and thus no way to update.
not taking the flash update route.
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There are many reasons to want to root a device which include systemwide add blocking, Titanium backup, uninstalling rather than disabling bloatware, etc. Perhaps this way of thinking of the reason for why the majority of new Pixel 3Xl buyers came from Samsung devices. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-churn-report-974588/
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First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone. First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds, which means you can and will still see adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period, so the only way is through root. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone. In addition, there are certain levels of customization which can only be optained through rooting ex.. 3minit battery, etc... .And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager. Yes, I agree root is less of a necessity today than it was years ago. However, for some, it is essential and a choice they don't wish to relinquish to OEMs. Yes, there are genuine dangers to rooting. But it is a choice each individual should make for themselves, not one made by the OEM. Just, my 2 cents.
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I do know Adguard is not a Systemwide blocker. But it does a very good job blocking ads which is exactly what i want. To me the end result is what matters.
Do you think only titanium can backup your apps data? there are so many apps which can do this without rooting your phone. And im surprised you're talking about your phone space. You do know that s10+ is a high end phone which has a 128GB inbuilt and can extend that to another 512 GB if im not mistaken right? system apps/bloatwares wont even take a GB of your phones space.
> And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager.
I do not wish to make it even better. because i've already tweaked this to the max and whats the point tweaking some more? when you have a powerful phone. Also only a small % of people do these kind of kernel changes.
battery mod all just a reason you tell yourself just coz you wanted to root your phone. Surely you can find an alternate method.
Anyways if anyone ask me about rooting s10 variants i will say dont. warranty gone, samsung pay - gone (one of the best payment method), updates need to do it manually.. some of the secure payment / banking apps wont work.
Well but i do agree with you on one thing. It's individual preference. If i decided to root i will defend my choice by talking about all those advantages. And if i choose not to root i will be talking about the disadvantages lol.
But really now a days rooting a powerful device doesnt make any sense at all - at least to an average user. im really enjoying my s10+ with nova launcher+good look customization+KWGT widgets+package disabler+adguard. It's almost like a rooted device for me now
some additional features are just a step away without rooting. simply setup adb on your pc, connect your phone with usb debugging and send some adb commands to allow WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS, CHANGE_CONFIGURATION, DUMP, depending on the app requirements.
for my use case, i had tasker and secure settings app.
on landscape orientation, it would automatically change input method to minuum (low profile keyboard). used to be using multiling though.
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I do know Adguard is not a Systemwide blocker. But it does a very good job blocking ads which is exactly what i want. To me the end result is what matters.
Do you think only titanium can backup your apps data? there are so many apps which can do this without rooting your phone. And im surprised you're talking about your phone space. You do know that s10+ is a high end phone which has a 128GB inbuilt and can extend that to another 512 GB if im not mistaken right? system apps/bloatwares wont even take a GB of your phones space.
> And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager.
I do not wish to make it even better. because i've already tweaked this to the max and whats the point tweaking some more? when you have a powerful phone. Also only a small % of people do these kind of kernel changes.
battery mod all just a reason you tell yourself just coz you wanted to root your phone. Surely you can find an alternate method.
Anyways if anyone ask me about rooting s10 variants i will say dont. warranty gone, samsung pay - gone (one of the best payment method), updates need to do it manually.. some of the secure payment / banking apps wont work.
Well but i do agree with you on one thing. It's individual preference. If i decided to root i will defend my choice by talking about all those advantages. And if i choose not to root i will be talking about the disadvantages lol.
But really now a days rooting a powerful device doesnt make any sense at all - at least to an average user. im really enjoying my s10+ with nova launcher+good look customization+KWGT widgets+package disabler+adguard. It's almost like a rooted device for me now
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To my knowledge, Titanium IS the best and only app thst can backup APK content fully, quickly and effectively. If you knows if another app that can backup APK data without root effectively please share. I would love to try it. There are thousands of apps that will backup you APKs, but none will backup their data. I have tried too many to only be disappointed at the end. If Google was able to do this effectively, I would surely stop rooting phones.
Not everyone needs a Terrabyte of capacity in their phone. It's a phone, for God's sake. I keep tens of thousands of pics and videos on mine, and still have plenty of room left; and because it's a Pixel, they are also saved in their original resolution on the cloud and are synced and available on any and all devices I log into. I also have over 230 apps installed and have plenty of room left. I won't argue that it's nicer to have more space than not, but IMO, it's not necessary for most people. It's mostly a strategy to keep getting people to buy a newer model with more this or that. Sure, a Pentabyte of space would be even better to have but I will never need it on my phones.
BTW never met anyone before who said they "didn't have a need for a better battery life on their phone". Given a chance, I think most people would tweak it to improve it.You must be pretty lucky with your phone. I've already seen forums about the battery life on the S10+ and how to make it better. The one one battery optimization is already 35 pages long! Either you are a light user, or you got very lucky with your phone.
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Eudeferrer said:
To my knowledge, Titanium IS the best and only app thst can backup APK content fully, quickly and effectively. If you knows if another app that can backup APK data without root effectively please share. I would love to try it. There are thousands of apps that will backup you APKs, but none will backup their data. I have tried too many to only be disappointed at the end. If Google was able to do this effectively, I would surely stop rooting phones.
Not everyone needs a Terrabyte of capacity in their phone. It's a phone, for God's sake. I keep tens of thousands of pics and videos on mine, and still have plenty of room left; and because it's a Pixel, they are also saved in their original resolution on the cloud and are synced and available on any and all devices I log into. I also have over 230 apps installed and have plenty of room left. I won't argue that it's nicer to have more space than not, but IMO, it's not necessary for most people. It's mostly a strategy to keep getting people to buy a newer model with more this or that. Sure, a Pentabyte of space would be even better to have but I will never need it on my phones.
BTW never met anyone before who said they "didn't have a need for a better battery life on their phone". Given a chance, I think most people would tweak it to improve it.You must be pretty lucky with your phone. I've already seen forums about the battery life on the S10+ and how to make it better. The one one battery optimization is already 35 pages long! Either you are a light user, or you got very lucky with your phone.
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To your very own knowledge you say Titanium is the best, ok fine. thats perfectly fine. Because there was this one time i was so obsessed with Titanium and that app was the 1st app i will ever install soon after rooting my device.
Reg backing up data, i do agree, that is a challenge. without rooting its difficult, but its NOT impossible. i transferred all my s9+ apps/data to s10+ without any issues. You know how? nowadays 90% apps have inbuilt backup solution. So you can easily backup your data to cloud etc. That way you can restore them without any issue. The only app data i had to redo - Duo security.
Yes, I do agree, no one ever need terabyte of capacity. I only have 256GB and I also have thousands of photos/videos. Why do you need to save tens of thousands of pics and videos in your mobile? it's a phone, for gods sake. You do know that you can backup to cloud and remove those photos. That way you can save space. So if you have enough space, why you're bothered about "disabled" apps vs uninstalled apps?
Do you know why i said "didn't have a need for a better battery life on their phone"? I'm a s10+ user. S10+ is a very very powerful phone with a very good battery capacity/hardware etc. I'm not a light user. People having issues with s10+ battery coz they dunno how to tweak their device. Just because there are 1001 tips to save battery, its not necessary to do them all. For example, people say reduce brightness, reduce the resolution, screen type etc. Whats the point doing all those things when you own a powerful, expensive phone? You MUST use some of those nice features without thinking much about battery usage. That's why i said I'm against doing every single things to save even 0.1% battery. I will only do reasonable tweaks and if my phone can give me 24hr + battery life then im more than happy.
Do you know that a lot of people dont use android Facebook app coz they all think it will drain the battery etc? i know that, but im still using FB, instagram etc etc. May be like you said you've never met a person who said i tweaked enough. But I've met them
I really respect all XDA devs. I still have 2 S7 devices with CF root + titanium backup etc etc. So its not that i dont like rooting. What im trying to tell you is, its not necessary to root. If you weigh the advantages / disadvantages, I only can see very few disadvantages.
You have no idea how many power hungry apps I have. I just know how to tweak them, block background access, block data access, use proper firewall etc. etc.
I'm not gonna argue with you whether rooting is good or not. Coz like i said, you have a fixed mindset that rooting is the only way. For that only im replying telling thats not the only way. Anyways, I have nothing against you. You root your device or dont root your device that got nothing to do with me. I'm just sharing that by rooting you gonna loose quite a lot of good features/apps + warranty. Last time we all had to take that risk (including me) because we literally had no choice. Now it's not like that.
Good luck, and for those who wish to root your s10+, please think again. That's all i can tell.