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I was tooling around Craigslist today looking for a good deal on a tablet, when I found this post. The first thing I noticed was the price, so I had to check it out.
The guy is claiming to have added more internal memory into the Nexus, making the memory a grand total of 80 gigs....
I am a bit puzzled by this, since I have read nothing about anything close to this kind of modification. Is this legit or is the dbag trolling for money?
Tony
http://columbus.craigslist.org/sys/3286409350.html
Troll. Lol not possible and if it was it'd be all over the inter webs by now
Bet its just USB otg and a 64 gig card
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dottat said:
Bet its just USB otg and a 64 gig card
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Tone_Capone said:
The guy is claiming to have added more internal memory into the Nexus, making the memory a grand total of 80 gigs.
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Is possible, there are few projects started to add a MicroSD card to N7,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866988
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30797-op...in-micro-sd-card-reader-to-nexus-7-build-log/
TECK said:
Is possible, there are few projects started to add a MicroSD card to N7,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1866988
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/30797-op...in-micro-sd-card-reader-to-nexus-7-build-log/
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If this is true, where is he on the forums? Both of those projects are still in the workings and this guy is SELLING all of his supposed hard work. I find it hard to believe...
Tone_Capone said:
If this is true, where is he on the forums?
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You asked if is possible to have 80GB on a N7 tablet, not where is the guy hiding.
TECK said:
You asked if is possible to have 80GB on a N7 tablet, not where is the guy hiding.
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True story, I just fond it hard to believe. May have to contact him and have him show proof.
Doubt its real. This pics are from the internet...
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It says he Expanded storage space.. Not added internal storage.. I think as stated above its nothing more then otg 64 gb card. I Would say message him and ask for Pictures . tell him you want a blank piece of paper in the background of the pictures slightly under the tablet with say random numbers written on it .. 4567 or 9034 .. hehe anything. This will tell the story.
Let us all know whats really up
erica_renee said:
It says he Expanded storage space.. Not added internal storage.. I think as stated above its nothing more then otg 64 gb card. I Would say message him and ask for Pictures . tell him you want a blank piece of paper in the background of the pictures slightly under the tablet with say random numbers written on it .. 4567 or 9034 .. hehe anything. This will tell the story.
Let us all know whats really up
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I sent an email asking for pictures with a recent newspaper or blank piece of paper with the word "banana" written on it. We shall what this guy is trying to sell, if he responds of course!
These have been on eBay too. While I don't doubt the possibility of soldering memory to the USB bus internally, I highly doubt that a seller would be doing this without it being posted somewhere, on some forum, to completion.
The eBay sells turn out to be OTG packages. Its likely this will too.
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I wonder if there is anything that can be safely deleted to increase the storage space of the nexus 8 or 16 models? Don't know if this has already been looked in to
jasonbiggs said:
I wonder if there is anything that can be safely deleted to increase the storage space of the nexus 8 or 16 models? Don't know if this has already been looked in to
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People were looking into USB OTG but the nexus 4 doesn't support it (correct me if i'm wrong)
USB otg is not supported as stated above.
As its a nexus device there isn't 'bloatware' as such so you can't create space deleting that.
I'd say there not much, if anything, you can do to create space
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I think some custom ROMs use up less space, thus giving more usable space to the user
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Great thanks for the info.
I opted for the 32GB Kingston Wi-Drive. It works great.
donec said:
I opted for the 32GB Kingston Wi-Drive. It works great.
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How exactly does that work?
ethan.r.besbris said:
How exactly does that work?
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It just has to be on the same WiFi network, I think. Networked storage.
Anyone has any idea?
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obsanity said:
Anyone has any idea?
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16GB doesn't mean you actually get 16GB of storage there are always a couple taken up by the OS that you can't access. There's a reason for it that I just cant jog my memory to remember right now. It's the same with any type of storage, a 500 GB pc hard drive drive isn't 500 GB there's a small amount reserved that you can't access, there's a name for it I just can't remember what it is (boot partition?). Not sure if you can recover them using a custom ROM like CM or not as I am happy with stock android.
Well its called a boot partition on anything with an OS yes but an external hard drive and its space is down to the actual number of GBs. So 1gb is actually 1024 MBs so 2GB is actually 2048 MBs and so on.
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16GB doesn't mean you actually get 16GB of storage there are always a couple taken up by the OS that you can't access. There's a reason for it that I just cant jog my memory to remember right now. It's the same with any type of storage, a 500 GB pc hard drive drive isn't 500 GB there's a small amount reserved that you can't access, there's a name for it I just can't remember what it is (boot partition?). Not sure if you can recover them using a custom ROM like CM or not as I am happy with stock android.
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Thanks for a reply but I don't think that's it in this case. I have the 8GB version and that should give me 5.7 usable. Look in the right top corner of my screenshot.
I've recovered about 400MB before that by moving a TWRP backup which somehow got placed in a word location. Can anyone install this app and tell me if they have a similar square of unrecognized space?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jzap.memorymap
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Hi,
I only purchased the shield pro yesterday and am already wondering whether I made a major mistake and should have gone with the 16 gb instead, as what happens if the hard drive dies? Are the default apps/os installed on internal flash or the hard drive itself? If on the hard drive then that is a really bad mistake on nvidias part, as when the drive dies, so does the shield, anyone know the answer? Would I be able to backup the os/factory default setup etc to an sd to use once the drive fails? If it had been an ssd this wouldn't have been an issue sadly.
Thanks for you're time.
Dave.
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karios525 said:
Hi,
I only purchased the shield pro yesterday and am already wondering whether I made a major mistake and should have gone with the 16 gb instead, as what happens if the hard drive dies? Are the default apps/os installed on internal flash or the hard drive itself? If on the hard drive then that is a really bad mistake on nvidias part, as when the drive dies, so does the shield, anyone know the answer? Would I be able to backup the os/factory default setup etc to an sd to use once the drive fails? If it had been an ssd this wouldn't have been an issue sadly.
Thanks for you're time.
Dave.
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Nvidia shield pro bas a micro SD slot, soo you just need to makes some backups.
And if im correct, if you have an enought memory you could install the whole android to it
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SD card backup
swarced said:
Nvidia shield pro bas a micro SD slot, soo you just need to makes some backups.
And if im correct, if you have an enought memory you could install the whole android to it
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As I have only had the shield pro for a week and am still getting used to android as an os, are there any clear instructions/videos/faqs to guide me into.....
1) How to back android and everything nvidia installed (everything which i haven't done myself, which in all honesty is just kodi and a few addons) onto an sd card, is there any particular software I should use? I don't plan on rooting as it is a new concept for me and don't see why I would want to, unless there is no choice
2) How large an sd card would be required
Thanks for you're time and patience
Dave.
karios525 said:
As I have only had the shield pro for a week and am still getting used to android as an os, are there any clear instructions/videos/faqs to guide me into.....
1) How to back android and everything nvidia installed (everything which i haven't done myself, which in all honesty is just kodi and a few addons) onto an sd card, is there any particular software I should use? I don't plan on rooting as it is a new concept for me and don't see why I would want to, unless there is no choice
2) How large an sd card would be required
Thanks for you're time and patience
Dave.
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If im correct, to backoup a full system with apps and files, your device must be rooted.
I recommend installing a custom recovery designed for shield TV, for the backup process.
At least you need 4gb of SD card storage.
I recommend a 6gb sdcard for that purpose.
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On the Shield Pro, everything is on the hard drive. And it can't even be swapped with another of the exact model, as there no way to install the OS on it since the tools to do so aren't released by Nvidia.
If it dies, your console is dead; unless you can get it repaired/replaced by Nvidia.
Damn
I have a question then. If you add an external hard drive to the shield tv, can you install games straight to the hard drive rather than using the internal storage of the 16gb model?
If so does it does is the obb directory on the hard drive too with the game data? If not the shield is not worth it as a gaming machine as you would fill up the memory too quickly like a phone.
With phones you can do that with root, if you buy an SD card im sure you can install apps on it
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Luxferro said:
On the Shield Pro, everything is on the hard drive. And it can't even be swapped with another of the exact model, as there no way to install the OS on it since the tools to do so aren't released by Nvidia.
If it dies, your console is dead; unless you can get it repaired/replaced by Nvidia.
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What about fastboot and recovery partitions, are they on hard drive too?
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visitor29 said:
What about fastboot and recovery partitions, are they on hard drive too?
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Yeah, everything is. Without a hard drive the console should boot into nvidia's APX mode. Info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/APX_mode and http://http.download.nvidia.com/tegra-public-appnotes/flashing-tools.html
To use this mode, you need the APX driver, and then NVFLASH. Good luck finding documentation on how to exactly prepare a hard drive for shield TV though. I found one guy who claims to have swapped in a 1TB hybrid SSD. But talking with him hasn't gone to well...
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I have a question then. If you add an external hard drive to the shield tv, can you install games straight to the hard drive rather than using the internal storage of the 16gb model?
If so does it does is the obb directory on the hard drive too with the game data? If not the shield is not worth it as a gaming machine as you would fill up the memory too quickly like a phone.
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If you root and use foldermount yes you can do this.
Also, when the release marshmellow for for it, you'll be able to put in a SD card and then format and use it as internal storage. You can do the same with other removable media as well (usb drives, ect).
Luxferro said:
Yeah, everything is. Without a hard drive the console should boot into nvidia's APX mode. Info here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/APX_mode and http://http.download.nvidia.com/tegra-public-appnotes/flashing-tools.html
To use this mode, you need the APX driver, and then NVFLASH. Good luck finding documentation on how to exactly prepare a hard drive for shield TV though. I found one guy who claims to have swapped in a 1TB hybrid SSD. But talking with him hasn't gone to well...
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Already tested and you right - device boot in apx mode without hdd.
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Anyone try to clone the drive to another? I'm interested in buying this version
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Anyone try to clone the drive to another? I'm interested in buying this version
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Yeah, I cloned the hard drive to the exact same model, and it didn't boot. There's more stuff going on than a simple hard drive swap.
Ohhhh I get mine today I think I might have made a mistake lmao
Hmm, this thread didn't exactly help with my decision I was sold on the 500gb version, but now I'm not so sure. I'm mainly going to stream movies and games, but still, 16gb isn't alot. I wish there was a 128gb version or something.
The HDD should easily last 5+ years which by then this device will be defunct. I don't see the issue.
Weekly / monthly TWRP backups to USB / SD can also be done.
I messed around pretty extensively with it awhile back. I posted in the nvidia forums, but was wrong about what I was seeing. After throwing every manager I could think of at it, cloning it, and imaging it in backbox Linux, I assumed it was encrypted because I'd never messed with anything tegra.
The short of it is, for anyone trying to find info... It's a proprietary file structure that likely needs a key to access. It's not fat, ext, or ntfs. It might not even be partitioned. I haven't been able to nor seen anyone gather a picture of what the sdhdd actually looks like. I even tried doing some really unconventional stuff (don't ask) and nothing. Just having access to apx-nvflash isn't enough.
The deal with the 1tb drive is that Seagate has a version of the 500gb drive available in a 1tb. That and the 500 gb are also used in the PlayStation 4 from what I could find. It's a Seagate slim sdhdd. The one thing I did figure out, or at least I think I did, was that the flash portion of the 500gb is devoted to swap. I sort of assumed theyed put the system on the flash, but found that isn't the case. The whole thing is swap partition to speed it up. I'd never used a hybrid drive so hadn't really thought about how I'd divy up those partitions. I guess it makes sense but why not just put the system there and use the other 490gb for storage... Anyhow...
-So its a Seagate slim 500
-There's a 1tb version of this drive that I suppose you could flash if you could figure out the file system.
-You need access to apx-nvflash and probably keys.
-The drive does not even show up on most partition managers.
There are copies of the .img in the nvidia developer site for both the 500gb and the 16gb.
I think that it's likely the guy claiming he got the 1tb working is boasting, but its possible if he has more access than us. Maybe an employee?
Also, I haven't tried, but I know that nvidia built the 16 gb unoys without sata connectors. However. I'm curious if they left the 16gb of flash nand on the 500gb units. I wonder what might happen on a 500gb version flashed with the developer 16gb img. If it was left on there it would take care of a lot of worry for folks concerned about the hdd.
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Hmm, this thread didn't exactly help with my decision I was sold on the 500gb version, but now I'm not so sure. I'm mainly going to stream movies and games, but still, 16gb isn't alot. I wish there was a 128gb version or something.
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Yeah I think even if you DL all the apps on there you would only use about 50 gigs of data. I thought I could turn this thing into am emulator beat but I can only store the roms on a micro sd card and not the 500GB hd.
So i brought it to an unofficial repair service, they said the ic UFS is broken, and they asked for $80 for fixing it. They initially said its the emmc that is broken.
Can anyone confirm that this is a fine asking price? I dont want to get ripped off. Is it true that MProM1 uses UFS instead of EMMC? Thanks before
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So i brought it to an unofficial repair service, they said the ic UFS is broken, and they asked for $80 for fixing it. They initially said its the emmc that is broken.
Can anyone confirm that this is a fine asking price? I dont want to get ripped off. Is it true that MProM1 uses UFS instead of EMMC? Thanks before
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I don't think updating FOTA makes the eMMC dead. If they say that File System is corrupted, it is fine but updating FOTA DON'T makes the eMMC dead.
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I don't think updating FOTA makes the eMMC dead. If they say that File System is corrupted, it is fine but updating FOTA DON'T makes the eMMC dead.
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No, It really is broken. Because no computer can detect my phone. All the computers in my office couldn't detect it.
I suspect the cause is my laptop, cause I plugged a 64GB usb, and its suddenly broken.
Now the question is, is MproM1 using EMMC?, or is it really using UFS?
I have a suspicion that they are lying, cause I googled it and most of the results are people selling Emmc for MPM1
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No, It really is broken. Because no computer can detect my phone. All the computers in my office cannot detect it.
I suspect the cause is my laptop, cause I plugged a 64GB usb, and its suddenly broken.
Now the question is, is MproM1 using EMMC?, or is it really using UFS?
I have a suspicion that they are lying, cause I googled it and most of the results are people selling Emmc for MPM1
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Yes. It use eMMC. UFS is very expensive. Look at green name in the image in my attachment.
mmcblk0pX (MMC Block 0 Partition X).
For HDD, SSD: sdaX, sdbX, ... (SCSI Drive partition A X, SCSI Drive B partition X)
For Floppy: fbX (Flobby X)
For CD/DVD: scdX (SCSI CD X) or srX
For IDE: hdaX, hdbX (Hard Drive A partition X)
For USB: usbX
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Yes. It use eMMC. UFS is very expensive. Look at green name in the image in my attachment.
mmcblk0pX (MMC Block 0 Partition X).
For HDD, SSD: sdaX, sdbX, ... (SCSI Drive partition A X, SCSI Drive B partition X)
For Floppy: fbX (Flobby X)
For CD/DVD: scdX (SCSI CD X) or srX
For IDE: hdaX, hdbX (Hard Drive A partition X)
For USB: usbX
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So I got lied to?
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So I got lied to?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Why bad things happened to me at the end of the year like this? Sigh
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Why bad things happened to me at the end of the year like this? Sigh
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Better than same thing happens to you at the start of the year
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Better than same thing happens to you at the start of the year
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Ah, does it make any difference man? Im tired, I want to rest for the holiday. Im worrying about my phone instead. I'm starting to feel pain in my body now.
Can we check the Serial Number of MPM1 battery on the box?
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Ah, does it make any difference man? Im tired, I want to rest for the holiday. Im worrying about my phone instead. I'm starting to feel pain in my body now.
Can we check the Serial Number of MPM1 battery on the box?
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The phone's box?
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The phone's box?
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Yes
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Yes
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It contains all infomation, specs, SN, IMEI, ... At the back of the box but not SN of the battery. You must disassemble the phone to see it.
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Tried Googling, looks like MPM1 use eMCP (combined DRAM+eMMC). Maybe thats why it's pricey.
ebeldamasta said:
Tried Googling, looks like MPM1 use eMCP (combined DRAM+eMMC). Maybe thats why it's pricey.
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But they said that it is UFS 3. It is very expensive and for high-end phones only.
ZMP M1's eMPC is LPDDR4X + eMMC 5.1.
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ebeldamasta said:
Tried Googling, looks like MPM1 use eMCP (combined DRAM+eMMC). Maybe thats why it's pricey.
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source?