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Why I am never buying from Sony again

Ok. So. Before I begin, I am telling the world my experience with Sony because I feel an injustice has been committed and I want to let people know what they are getting themselves in for.
Right.
So, the day the Xperia Z was released in New Zealand, I went out and purchased one. After seeing many videos on YouTube of people banging the phone on the edge of tables and dropping it into water, I was convinced that it was both durable, functional and fashionable.
So last last week, I was doing the same as any regular day, which was making my hour long commute into University.
That day I had a test, which meant I was pretty nervous about studying, so I decided to stop holding my phone (which is what I usually do on the bus.. just hold my phone and listen to music), and place it in my satchel bag which was on the chair beside me.
After about 10 minutes of listening to music, I decided the current song I was listening to wasn't what I wanted to hear. So, I reached into my bag and pulled out my phone. I noticed some "fluff" on the bottom of the phone, but figured it was just some out of my bag that had gotten stuck to the screen and shrugged it off. I turned on the phone using the power button on the side, and then tapped my finger on the next song button. Nothing happened. I then assumed it had something to do with the so-figured "fluff" on the bottom of the phones display by the mic , and as I reached to brush it off with my finger I noticed that it wasn't fluff at all... It was a group of cracks....
I then angled my phone, and saw that there were a few cracks running to various points on the perimeter of the screen. It was shocked.. and taken aback... How did an Xperia Z, which is marketed as this "durable" beast, succumb to the most mundane of things?
The phone did not break underwater after saving my life from a bullet in an underwater gunfight as I had imagined... No, it had broken in a bag, on a bus.
I later called the hotline, who noted straight away that it was physical damage, even though in a bag on a bus surely is considered in "typical use" as the warranty says, and referred me onto a service center in Auckland.
After hearing a verbal $200-250 estimate repair bill, I paid $40 for a technicians analysis, which was then to be deducted off the final price.
I gave them a call to ask about the repair, and they gave me a new figure. Double that of their estimate. $483...
So my phone is on the threshold of being a write-off ($999 retail). With absolutely no sympathy from Sony, and a massive bill to pay if I am to use it again.
I think this is terrible.. My old phone.. Correction -- current phone.. An iPhone 4, has survived drops, bangs, BUS RIDES, and even a trip in the toilet, without need for repair or damage other than a couple scrapes. No dead pixels... Still works as new practically.
TL;DR "durable" Xperia Z glass front panel cracked doing the most mundane of tasks, in a bag, on a seat, in a bus. Phone is more or less a write-off, and Sony has offered no support or sympathy.
Thanks for reading...
P.S if anyone wants pictures, I cannot post them until I retrieve the phone from the repair shop. I just called today about a quote after the technicians analysis.

I guess bad luck. You probably hit the bag somewhere while commuting and with that hit the screen at the wrong spot. The screen isn't unbreakable and only the polycarbonate frame protects it (because the screen is positioned slightly lower) when banging it on a tables edge or something.
So I'm very sorry for you, but this isn't bad quality of the device or lack of customer service on Sony's part. This is just plain bad luck. Be more careful with your current device. Yes, even your iPhone can break this way.
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Egan said:
This is just plain bad luck. Be more careful with your current device.
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I totally agree with this !

Damn, dude. Sorry about your XZ.
This is where apple IMO have the edge. You break the screen and they have a reasonable flat fee and give you a (refurbished) replacement.
You must have crushed the phone in an awkward place in your bag for it to break though. I had mine fly out of my top pocket, went over my head and landed on a surface about 1 meter away, thankfully it didn't hit the floor though - still it would have dropped about 30-60cms with some speed.
Almost $500 is absurd especially considering the phone brand new is $600 (at a lot of places in Australia).

Ouch.. Seriously, I can't see why u had so many issues with it.
Mine has been banged around for two weeks now, been in the shower multiple times and most importantly survived series of drops in to the ground. I've ordered a 2$ rubber case on eBay, just to be sure!
I think your issue is Sony in your country. It need better insurances!
And yeah iPhone 4 got like 9 lives or something. First we heard about the screens cracking but now how much they overcome(toilet drops, hardcore floor hitting and others!. But still, it can't compare with my Sony Xperia Z!
My opinion!
Cheers! Pietroni
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I don't think Sony ever marketed this phone as super-durable, only water and dust resistant (to a certain point).

salguodnz said:
Ok. So. Before I begin, I am telling the world my experience with Sony because I feel an injustice has been committed and I want to let people know what they are getting themselves in for.
Right.
So, the day the Xperia Z was released in New Zealand, I went out and purchased one. After seeing many videos on YouTube of people banging the phone on the edge of tables and dropping it into water, I was convinced that it was both durable, functional and fashionable.
So last last week, I was doing the same as any regular day, which was making my hour long commute into University.
That day I had a test, which meant I was pretty nervous about studying, so I decided to stop holding my phone (which is what I usually do on the bus.. just hold my phone and listen to music), and place it in my satchel bag which was on the chair beside me.
After about 10 minutes of listening to music, I decided the current song I was listening to wasn't what I wanted to hear. So, I reached into my bag and pulled out my phone. I noticed some "fluff" on the bottom of the phone, but figured it was just some out of my bag that had gotten stuck to the screen and shrugged it off. I turned on the phone using the power button on the side, and then tapped my finger on the next song button. Nothing happened. I then assumed it had something to do with the so-figured "fluff" on the bottom of the phones display by the mic , and as I reached to brush it off with my finger I noticed that it wasn't fluff at all... It was a group of cracks....
I then angled my phone, and saw that there were a few cracks running to various points on the perimeter of the screen. It was shocked.. and taken aback... How did an Xperia Z, which is marketed as this "durable" beast, succumb to the most mundane of things?
The phone did not break underwater after saving my life from a bullet in an underwater gunfight as I had imagined... No, it had broken in a bag, on a bus.
I later called the hotline, who noted straight away that it was physical damage, even though in a bag on a bus surely is considered in "typical use" as the warranty says, and referred me onto a service center in Auckland.
After hearing a verbal $200-250 estimate repair bill, I paid $40 for a technicians analysis, which was then to be deducted off the final price.
I gave them a call to ask about the repair, and they gave me a new figure. Double that of their estimate. $483...
So my phone is on the threshold of being a write-off ($999 retail). With absolutely no sympathy from Sony, and a massive bill to pay if I am to use it again.
I think this is terrible.. My old phone.. Correction -- current phone.. An iPhone 4, has survived drops, bangs, BUS RIDES, and even a trip in the toilet, without need for repair or damage other than a couple scrapes. No dead pixels... Still works as new practically.
TL;DR "durable" Xperia Z glass front panel cracked doing the most mundane of tasks, in a bag, on a seat, in a bus. Phone is more or less a write-off, and Sony has offered no support or sympathy.
Thanks for reading...
P.S if anyone wants pictures, I cannot post them until I retrieve the phone from the repair shop. I just called today about a quote after the technicians analysis.
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never go back to sony for repairs outside of warranty
http://www.parts4repair.com/complet...h&adtype=pla&gclid=CP650rf4rbYCFUlcpQod8gQAEg

Egan said:
I guess bad luck. You probably hit the bag somewhere while commuting and with that hit the screen at the wrong spot. The screen isn't unbreakable and only the polycarbonate frame protects it (because the screen is positioned slightly lower) when banging it on a tables edge or something.
So I'm very sorry for you, but this isn't bad quality of the device or lack of customer service on Sony's part. This is just plain bad luck. Be more careful with your current device. Yes, even your iPhone can break this way.
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It was just sitting on the seat beside me... I didn't do anything
They had no sympathy. Just straight we can't do anything for you, go get it repaired. (paraphrasing)

Sounds like it was the phone was hot, then cold, so the glass cracked?
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salguodnz said:
It was just sitting on the seat beside me... I didn't do anything
They had no sympathy. Just straight we can't do anything for you, go get it repaired. (paraphrasing)
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Whell, they can't create case history of people calling them and asking to repair free their broken phone.. sorry for you but i agree with the "bad luck theory". My phone fell many times and has only three little scratches on the frame.
(that i think is covered with some sort of gum and that gum is scratched)

metcard said:
Damn, dude. Sorry about your XZ.
This is where apple IMO have the edge. You break the screen and they have a reasonable flat fee and give you a (refurbished) replacement.
You must have crushed the phone in an awkward place in your bag for it to break though. I had mine fly out of my top pocket, went over my head and landed on a surface about 1 meter away, thankfully it didn't hit the floor though - still it would have dropped about 30-60cms with some speed.
Almost $500 is absurd especially considering the phone brand new is $600 (at a lot of places in Australia).
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Yeah.. thats just unfair really.Ugh. Life... :\
robogo1982 said:
I don't think Sony ever marketed this phone as super-durable, only water and dust resistant (to a certain point).
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from the website:
"An incredibly tough frame
The skeleton frame is made of tough glass fibre polyamide. It has superior mechanical strength, and is so strong that it’s often used as a metal substitute in cars and electronics."
"Durable glass panels
Both the front and back panels of Xperia Z are made of durable tempered glass that’s much stronger than conventional glass. Each glass panel also has an anti-shatter film for even greater durability."
decentgi said:
never go back to sony for repairs outside of warranty
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wow... that link is a nice find! I'd include that in my response if I had posted enough.. I wonder if I can leverage this in my negotiations tomorrow with the repair shop at all.. hmm..
I'll post back with how it goes when I know..

salguodnz said:
Ok. So. Before I begin, I am telling the world my experience with Sony because I feel an injustice has been committed and I want to let people know what they are getting themselves in for.
Right.
So, the day the Xperia Z was released in New Zealand, I went out and purchased one. After seeing many videos on YouTube of people banging the phone on the edge of tables and dropping it into water, I was convinced that it was both durable, functional and fashionable.
So last last week, I was doing the same as any regular day, which was making my hour long commute into University.
That day I had a test, which meant I was pretty nervous about studying, so I decided to stop holding my phone (which is what I usually do on the bus.. just hold my phone and listen to music), and place it in my satchel bag which was on the chair beside me.
After about 10 minutes of listening to music, I decided the current song I was listening to wasn't what I wanted to hear. So, I reached into my bag and pulled out my phone. I noticed some "fluff" on the bottom of the phone, but figured it was just some out of my bag that had gotten stuck to the screen and shrugged it off. I turned on the phone using the power button on the side, and then tapped my finger on the next song button. Nothing happened. I then assumed it had something to do with the so-figured "fluff" on the bottom of the phones display by the mic , and as I reached to brush it off with my finger I noticed that it wasn't fluff at all... It was a group of cracks....
I then angled my phone, and saw that there were a few cracks running to various points on the perimeter of the screen. It was shocked.. and taken aback... How did an Xperia Z, which is marketed as this "durable" beast, succumb to the most mundane of things?
The phone did not break underwater after saving my life from a bullet in an underwater gunfight as I had imagined... No, it had broken in a bag, on a bus.
I later called the hotline, who noted straight away that it was physical damage, even though in a bag on a bus surely is considered in "typical use" as the warranty says, and referred me onto a service center in Auckland.
After hearing a verbal $200-250 estimate repair bill, I paid $40 for a technicians analysis, which was then to be deducted off the final price.
I gave them a call to ask about the repair, and they gave me a new figure. Double that of their estimate. $483...
So my phone is on the threshold of being a write-off ($999 retail). With absolutely no sympathy from Sony, and a massive bill to pay if I am to use it again.
I think this is terrible.. My old phone.. Correction -- current phone.. An iPhone 4, has survived drops, bangs, BUS RIDES, and even a trip in the toilet, without need for repair or damage other than a couple scrapes. No dead pixels... Still works as new practically.
TL;DR "durable" Xperia Z glass front panel cracked doing the most mundane of tasks, in a bag, on a seat, in a bus. Phone is more or less a write-off, and Sony has offered no support or sympathy.
Thanks for reading...
P.S if anyone wants pictures, I cannot post them until I retrieve the phone from the repair shop. I just called today about a quote after the technicians analysis.
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mmmmm, unlucky.
Used my xperia z without a case for about 3 weeks and its still fine.

robogo1982 said:
I don't think Sony ever marketed this phone as super-durable, only water and dust resistant (to a certain point).
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Yes sir they do, that is one big hype on all the Xperia Z overview pages on the Sony internet sites

Can you post the picture of the glass crack in your Xperia Z ?

metcard said:
Damn, dude. Sorry about your XZ.
This is where apple IMO have the edge. You break the screen and they have a reasonable flat fee and give you a (refurbished) replacement.
You must have crushed the phone in an awkward place in your bag for it to break though. I had mine fly out of my top pocket, went over my head and landed on a surface about 1 meter away, thankfully it didn't hit the floor though - still it would have dropped about 30-60cms with some speed.
Almost $500 is absurd especially considering the phone brand new is $600 (at a lot of places in Australia).
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Dude I have seen more broken screens on Iphones than any other phone, so I guess they have to do something about it, when the phone to buy outright is almost twice the price of almost any others.

Pure bad luck maybe...?
I hate to say it, but phones don't break by themselves.
Mostly people damage them like a chip on a windscreen and don't notice it, and it gets worse over time until BOOM.
I only know that over the many many years i've had phones, and trust me, since the dark days of bricks i've almost had them all, with all the punishment i've given my phones, including dropping them onto concrete (I've never owned an apple phone before anyone goes hang on), i've never had unexpected issues like this arise. In fact, i've been lucky enough not to actually ever crack or shatter a screen.
Sorry but i'm with Sony on this one, and they burned me with the X10.
As for Apple, they will just tell you your phone is water damaged and to get the hell out of their store unless you come back in a cardigan, slippers and non prescription glasses, and buy a new iphone off them when you do come back.

I used mine as a ping pong ball .....
Maybe you bended it ALOT.

That's pretty sad man. Then again these things happen, but not for everyone. I had a similar issue with my Samsung Galaxy S2. It got bended in my pocket while, I was sitting. When took it to repair they said we cannot fixed it under warranty coz it has been damaged. I was shocked and they said we can fix it with over 400 euros. Its insane.
Best way is to fix it yourself if its fixable by ordering the parts.

if you wanna sell it let us know lol im sure in a few months parts will become really cheap. we have a guy at our local shopping centre who charges by the hour to fix your phone, im sure it wont take more than an hour to replace since i saw a video of one being put together in under 5 min lol
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and to be fair there is no way for sony to really know how it got broken, if apple honoured warrenty on their broken screens they would have gone bankrupt but there is nothing more disspointing than to have that happen. i dropped mine a few times not a scratch on it

Of course shouldn't that kind of dammages be coverd by the warranty. Sony has thr right on their side. On the otherside, I understand that you get mad at Sony.

How many Defy of yours have lost waterproofness?

Hi, fella forumers! I'm just wondering: how many of your Defy have lost (or still retain) its waterproofness up to now?
Mine has lost this quality about half a year ago. At first I noticed that there were vapours gathering inside the screen, which would go away if I opened the back lid for a while. But once the micro-USB port totally stoppoed functioning that I wasn't able to charge the battery, so I have to got it repaired. I was told that circuit board has water stains which caused the malfunctioning...
It's actually my seconf Defy, which was bought in Oct. 2011, after I've forgotten my first Defy in taxi... I was pretty satified with Defy at that moment and really value its waterproofness, so I didn't hesitate to buy a second one while there were already a lot of more advanced (but not waterproofing) smart phones on the market. Therefore, its waterproofness just lasted for roughly two years, which is much shorter than I had expected. I thought for at least five years it would be as new as just rolling out of the assembling line every time I washed it under tap water - but it turned out to be not the truth, sadly.
Well, I have to admit that I did wash my Defy regularly - in fact almost everyday, because - well, 'scientists' say that computer keyboards and mobile phones (previously it was traditional telephone) collect more germs, etc. that toilets. So eveytime I was back home, I just put it under the tap water, briefly let the currents to go through it. It shouldn't hurt, right?
Right now my Defy is completely 'hydrophobic'. I no longer dip it in water. I guess I will continue to use it for a year or two. Still, the fact is not up to my high expectation.
So, I would like to see if this is my own unfortune or a normal phenomenon. It's quite critial to know the result because if I do change my mobile phone, I would definitely choose a waterproofing one still. But now my confidence for such phones has been significantly weakened. If new phones repeat this fate after just a couple of years, I don't think it's really meaningful to pay more money for this not-long-lasting porperty.
Maybe the manufacturing technoligy has already advanced - phones nowadays are tougher than their predecessors?

Well, mine is about 8 months old (yes, I could've bought a newer device but thats a different story). In my time of using this phone, I would only say its water resistant and not exactly waterproof. Sometimes when I dip it in water (either to clean it after a busy day outdoors or when friends want to test it), i realize that some traces of tiny droplets do make it inside (looks like vapor sometimes). But it does not enter the battery area. This is probably due to the rubber lining. It still worries me as these traces of tiny droplets did somewhat enter.
I would suggest cleaning it with a wet cloth instead. Treat the waterproofing like it is an emergency feature...just in case
If and when you want to switch phones and still want waterproof, I'd say look at Sony. If you need removable battery, the Xperia ZR looks promising and if you don't mind not being able to access the battery, their other models are alright too. For me personally, battery life is important.
R u using any custom ROM?

My defy is waterproof to a great extent, but steam does enter, and sometimes condenses on the inside of the screen, and the camera lens. But under running water/rain no water enters. I once kept it in a bucket of water for some time, and a few drops made it to the edge, or maybe they came from the cover itself. So, it's good enough for me
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Mine lost 6 months back. the rubber round usb port got deteriorated and then came off. Now i cant cover usb port with the lid. cant find it selling anywhere either.

coldfusionhybrid said:
Well, mine is about 8 months old (yes, I could've bought a newer device but thats a different story). In my time of using this phone, I would only say its water resistant and not exactly waterproof. Sometimes when I dip it in water (either to clean it after a busy day outdoors or when friends want to test it), i realize that some traces of tiny droplets do make it inside (looks like vapor sometimes). But it does not enter the battery area. This is probably due to the rubber lining. It still worries me as these traces of tiny droplets did somewhat enter.
I would suggest cleaning it with a wet cloth instead. Treat the waterproofing like it is an emergency feature...just in case
If and when you want to switch phones and still want waterproof, I'd say look at Sony. If you need removable battery, the Xperia ZR looks promising and if you don't mind not being able to access the battery, their other models are alright too. For me personally, battery life is important.
R u using any custom ROM?
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Yes, I've been flashing Quarx's roms.
I agree with you that Sony's Xpreia might be a good candidate, but it's only IP57 or IP55, right? So the grade is even lower than our Defy.
In fact it seems that nowadays at the market there are only two major series of waterproof smart phones: Sony's Xperia and Samsung's Galaxy S4 Active. Some sources mentioned that the latter is not that water-resistent. Of course there are other tougher phones which are heavily-armoured, but there are twice thicker and heavier - real bricks. Some have suggested that Lenovo's S750 is the next Defy, but as far as I can see, the technology used for waterproofness is the same of Defy's. Naturally I doubt if it will last longer than Defy.
IMHO, I think, at least in my case, the water enters into my Defy mainly through the back battery lid. It's made of a piece of platics that bends after year's using, so there comes the gap between the rubber band. Also, as vai0 has mentioned, the USB lid is vulnerable for the same reason. There's no conern for the headset jack, because it's totally made of rubber.
Anyway, I wish factories like Samsung and Lenovo will not follow Motorola and just make only one shot for good, but will keep designing new tough phones to the market.
By the way, I don't think phones like Moto X applied with nano-coating does not make too much sense, since the phone's still not watertight after all.

ymyzhifeng said:
Yes, I've been flashing Quarx's roms.
I agree with you that Sony's Xpreia might be a good candidate, but it's only IP57 or IP55, right? So the grade is even lower than our Defy.
In fact it seems that nowadays at the market there are only two major series of waterproof smart phones: Sony's Xperia and Samsung's Galaxy S4 Active. Some sources mentioned that the latter is not that water-resistent. Of course there are other tougher phones which are heavily-armoured, but there are twice thicker and heavier - real bricks. Some have suggested that Lenovo's S750 is the next Defy, but as far as I can see, the technology used for waterproofness is the same of Defy's. Naturally I doubt if it will last longer than Defy.
IMHO, I think, at least in my case, the water enters into my Defy mainly through the back battery lid. It's made of a piece of platics that bends after year's using, so there comes the gap between the rubber band. Also, as vai0 has mentioned, the USB lid is vulnerable for the same reason. There's no conern for the headset jack, because it's totally made of rubber.
Anyway, I wish factories like Samsung and Lenovo will not follow Motorola and just make only one shot for good, but will keep designing new tough phones to the market.
By the way, I don't think phones like Moto X applied with nano-coating does not make too much sense, since the phone's still not watertight after all.
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The Sony may be ip55/57 but its good enough from what I've read. As for Samsung, I didn't suggest it because I don't like how they design things. Its appalling and I feel as if its insulting the consumer with their designs and material finish. Unfortunately, Samsung is one of the very few manufacturers that constantly deliver on 2 other important things (to me); removable battery and expandable storage. Still won't buy from them. But hey, thats just me. As for Lenovo, I have not tried it yet. Personally, I'm looking at the Xperia ZR at the moment if i choose to change (will still keep my Defy+ as secondary if i change ). A review in case you're interested too
Yeah, nano-coating isn't really water-proofing. I find it more like a water resistant protection. Sometimes there are phone models that become popular to the point that accessory makers produce cases that offer some sort of protection against water/dust. Thats something you can look at as well (with caution of course)

Defy is not water proof, it is water resistant. I did never wash it or put it into water and it is still in good condition (bought 06/2011), now with Android 4.4.
I'm replacing it with an XCover2 (IP67 certified) and also there the manual warns to immerse it in water although it has an underwater camera.

Good news.

Thats idd great news

What is it? I can't watch the video.

I think someone should try this and confirm that it is true.

very cool find. thanks

ironshadow2 said:
What is it? I can't watch the video.
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A 2hr water test where the G4 survived.

It says the phone is splash proof on the O2 page:
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/lg/g4/

Zoidy said:
It says the phone is splash proof on the O2 page:
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/lg/g4/
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Well it has no IP rating - so that protects them as then, they cannot be on the hook for water damage. And, normally, these vids are kind of counting on the fact that surface tension will simply keep water from going into tiny holes. But in this case, since it is not a sealed back phone water DID get into the actual inside the phone, around the battery and SD card area, and presumably into the motherboard and such. So, it is cool for him it survived, but I consider that luck, not anything you should expect and count on. This is not like the Z3 Sony where you can go swimming with it so not so sure what the point of the video is? Can you get it wet, ok sure to some degree. Should you, no. But for that matter can you drop it and expect it to not break, sure to some degree depending on a slew of factors. Should you drop it, no.
I don't consider this "good news" and as a matter of fact, it is not really news as it has no application to what YOU do and how you might get yours wet. Just like stupid drop test videos that prove NOTHING other than what happened at that moment for that person in that setting with that phone. It means nothing for you and you won't be able to go to the maker and say, "but hey, this video on YouTube showed it would survive water and it didn't". As they will tell you to pound sand - as they should.

Lock-N-Load said:
Well it has no IP rating - so that protects them as then, they cannot be on the hook for water damage. And, normally, these vids are kind of counting on the fact that surface tension will simply keep water from going into tiny holes. But in this case, since it is not a sealed back phone water DID get into the actual inside the phone, around the battery and SD card area, and presumably into the motherboard and such. So, it is cool for him it survived, but I consider that luck, not anything you should expect and count on. This is not like the Z3 Sony where you can go swimming with it so not so sure what the point of the video is? Can you get it wet, ok sure to some degree. Should you, no. But for that matter can you drop it and expect it to not break, sure to some degree depending on a slew of factors. Should you drop it, no.
I don't consider this "good news" and as a matter of fact, it is not really news as it has no application to what YOU do and how you might get yours wet. Just like stupid drop test videos that prove NOTHING other than what happened at that moment for that person in that setting with that phone. It means nothing for you and you won't be able to go to the maker and say, "but hey, this video on YouTube showed it would survive water and it didn't". As they will tell you to pound sand - as they should.
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You must be fun at parties
Lol kidding but yeah, this video was stupid.
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The guy in the video states that you could have it in your pocket & jump in a pool. I don't think he realizes that the deeper you go, the higher the water pressure. Still, it looks like it'll survive dropping it in the toilet or spilling on it, which is an acceptable level of resistance to me.

Water resistant....it looks it to me

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=cG_xMe0tU8c
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Water Test!!!
Im sure most of you, like myself wanted to know just how the Pixel's rating compared to that of the iPhone 7 and the S7. Check out this guy who was willing to sacrifice his Pixel in order to do a water test!
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/10/video-google-pixel-spends-30-minutes-underwater.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YojQneS6Yts

Wow! Totally caught me by surprise. I can't believe it lasted 30 minutes with no (immediately?) notable damage.

Id still rather not, even with a phone that is rated for it.

never tried my Z1 in water (got dropped in a puddle but never really tested it) and never tried my Note 7, doesn't matter how it's rated just not worth the test to me as if it does get wet and break a lot of firms wont honour the warranty for water damage.

LOL that was amazing.

combat goofwing said:
https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=cG_xMe0tU8c
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Impressive considering the stick it's had re water resistance.. Good to see you over here, it's been a while

Balls. Big ones.
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It has mate ,got the N6P but considering a Pixel XL though
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Pixel Handles1 Hour Submersed In Water Pretty Darn Good!!!
Very nice .... Bet that speaker sounds fine once it dries out... But who would have thought? Again, as with drop tests YMMV... [emoji106]
https://youtu.be/YojQneS6Yts
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Ok but do not do this It is just comforting to know.

yes its just a hidden feature i guess Google and Htc doesn't want to get in this whole waterproof warranty/guarantee mess i guess its really difficult to repair a waterproof or something like that

I would NOT guess that this is anywhere near truly water resistant yet. No teardown has mentioned anything close to water proofing features such as o-rings, etc.

It is good to know that it survived 30 minutes under water. No, it wasn't deep but it was completely submerged for 30 minutes. Make it water resistant for standard use and don't brag about it or encourage people to submerge it. I am sure that will help with "my phone isn't working after I took it snorkeling, but you guys said it was IP67" type complaints.

How do we know if it's ordinary water or distilled water? Hmmm... I'm no expert but I heard pure distilled water conducts electricity a lot less.

nice

mtucker said:
It is good to know that it survived 30 minutes under water. No, it wasn't deep but it was completely submerged for 30 minutes. Make it water resistant for standard use and don't brag about it or encourage people to submerge it. I am sure that will help with "my phone isn't working after I took it snorkeling, but you guys said it was IP67" type complaints.
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Actually an hour!!!![emoji106]
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looks good

I wonder if this is all part of an extended test?
If you remember last year there are alot of reports on how the iPhone 6s was was way more water resistant than previous versions, and teardowns confirmed that alot of rubber gaskets had been added internally, yet apple did not market this at all
I wonder if they implemented full water-resistance a year early and monitored the number of water damage repairs they saw to gauge the effectiveness of their solution, without loads of internal testing?
Maybe Google are doing the same?
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Hereisphilly said:
I wonder if this is all part of an extended test?
If you remember last year there are alot of reports on how the iPhone 6s was was way more water resistant than previous versions, and teardowns confirmed that alot of rubber gaskets had been added internally, yet apple did not market this at all
I wonder if they implemented full water-resistance a year early and monitored the number of water damage repairs they saw to gauge the effectiveness of their solution, without loads of internal testing?
Maybe Google are doing the same?
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Conspiracy?

Water proofing?

Water resistant?

Nop

No one knows for sure... But tbh it would be ridiculous now to not include waterproofing in a flagship phone, so they must've done it.

Not going to come, dont expect it

how unfortunate. take away 8gb ram and add ip67 or 68 but we wont see that

I also thought it isn´t waterproof but then I read a (german) test about the OP5 and they wrote: (Translated, Original article is german, source https://www.androidpit.de/oneplus-5-test) "OnePlus Cradles Some OnePlus-5 devices on the production line in a water bath. This must be 20 seconds. There is therefore no IP certification, but the onePlus 5 should therefore be well protected against penetrating water.". That means your phone should survive little water accidents =)

This is true. You can't go swimming with your phone, but it can survive a pickle it a toilet drop.

i think it had some IP grade protection..
But they don't want to spend on obtain the certification (it cost very much).
I've see already video on youtube doing bend test, waiting the waterproof test...

m4ssnet said:
i think it had some IP grade protection..
But they don't want to spend on obtain the certification (it cost very much).
I've see already video on youtube doing bend test, waiting the waterproof test...
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Right, I looked at the tests on Youtube for OP3T, seems like at least waterproof to a certain extent... keeping my fingers crossed for OP5!

Translate from this french site : Why is the OnePlus 5 not officially waterproof?
Many were disappointed to learn that OnePlus 5 was not IP67 certified for water resistance ... but is this really the case? The French branch of the manufacturer tells us rather that the phone is built to resist immersion, but that the phone simply has not passed the tests to claim it.
Oneplus 5 test autonomy
Summer is now on us, and the wave of heat wave that accompanies its arrival is also synonymous with lull in the middle of the smartphones. Except that some manufacturers take advantage to quietly announce their smartphones without competitors to annoy them.
This is the case of the Chinese manufacturer OnePlus that did not cool (ohohoh) anyone last night unveiling its new OnePlus 5 , a phone still advancing the best technical data of the market for a much more reasonable price. But some detail is missing for some buyers.
Would the OnePlus 5 eventually be waterproof?
Many of you expressed that the phone, despite its higher price this year, was not a watertight minimum. That's why we turned to the French branch of OnePlus to better understand the situation.
A few days before the official announcement of the OnePlus 5, we met a brand executive who gave us details about this OnePlus 5. When we discovered the complete datasheet, we realized that the IP67 standard was not Appointments . The OnePlus 5 is therefore not officially waterproof.
So we asked the OnePlus framework about this. He then explained to us that technically the OnePlus 5 had all the criteria to display the IP67 certification . But the time taken to have the smartphone certified would have caused a delay in the release date. OnePlus wants to keep the same pace of renewal, so the company decided not to have OnePlus certified.
You have certainly understood, the phone is not officially IP67 certified, but is built in such a way to be in fact. In addition to the delays, the manufacturer has also made this choice to avoid the problems of VAS related to the incomprehension surrounding this certification.
To put it simply, some users think that the IP67 standard certifies a tightness to any liquid, which is not the case. An IP67 certified smartphone is waterproof only in fresh water and at a certain level of water pressure. OnePlus therefore preferred to focus on customer satisfaction and good relations with its community rather than take the risk of dealing with disputes arising from misunderstanding.
The OnePlus 5 will withstand a glass of water spilled on it. While avoiding the classic problems associated with this certification: no, the phone is not able to withstand sea water or a dive in a pool. And he does not drink alcohol or soda.
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So thanks OnePlus France for this news, i will can play with my OP5 in my W.C