This is for all devices and all reader applications.
Are you happy with the speed/performance/look of page turns in your reader application?
It's sometimes hard to objectively decide how fast page turns are occuring.
I'm using a Glow4 (7.8" Nook) and a custom reader here.
I have a scope probe going to a logcat on the console to see the start of the page turn and a probe on an eInk data line to see the screen update.
The Glow4 is big and still has the same single core iMX6SL processor, so this is one of the worst cases.
You can see that it takes over a quarter of a second to start updating the screen and then a further half a second to finish.
I added the Glow3, it's 100 milliseconds quicker to start, but a screen update takes about the same half second.
The Glow4 has a 16 bit interface vs. the Glow3 8 bit interface.
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Im about to pick up a XDA Exec and I'm coming from a Tilt.
Am I making a good choice? I've been reading the Wiki and such and not really sure I want to use a cooked ROM. My Exec will be coming with WM6..but I'm not sure if its stock or cooked yet cause I dont have it in my hands.
I also noticed the huge memory difference between the 2 devices, any suggestions to improve or make more memory for the Exec?\
The things that I want to install on my Exec and hoping there is enough internal memory to handle it all:
HTC Home Plugin
HTC Home Plugin Customizer
Google Maps
Yahoo Go
icontact OR PCM
Sclpf's Cube
SRS Sound
Pocket Commander
Advanced ConFig (if there is one for the Uni??)
BT Toggle
KeySwop
ClearTemp
Thoughts?
Thanks gang
The TyTN II is newer than the Universal, but Universal has higher CPU speed (520MHz, overclocked to 624MHz in my case) than the TyTN II's 400MHz. The RAM on the Universal doesn't bother me much as the most programs I run at any one time would be outlook, media player, Internet explorer and windows live, which all run smoothly at once.
The sliding mechanism is quicker to open than the Universal, with the added advantage of being usable in the closed position. I find opening the device to check the time quite annoying, and changing between tablet and laptop styles is a bit inconvenient.
As for the VGA screen, it makes a MASSIVE difference to nothing but text reading and Internet exploerer.
However, if your vision isn't too good you might not be able to take advantage of these features. My father couldn't read any text on normal text size when using VGA (even with reading glasses on), let alone very small (which I use to increase viewable area).
Since the Universal won't run 640 X 480 Video (I tried a wmv at 25 FPS and it played at about 4 FPS), the only noticeable advantage is in internet explorer.
While on WM5 with no add-ons (so it was running in 320 X 240 mode), it was hardly possible to see the whole Google logo when using Google classic, and scrolling from side to side to see forums etc was annoying in desktop view mode, or scrolling through excessively long pages in fit to screen was annoying. However after upgrading to a WM6.1 PRO cooked ROM from here on xda-developers, which had a pre-configured VGA mode, Internet explorer is as easy to use on my Uni as on my desktop.
Storage is far cheaper on the Universal. I recently bought a 16GB SDHC card on ebay for $79AUD after shipping. A 4GB micro SD would cost similar to that.
The internal memory has plently of room for my most used applications (windows live/google maps (which runs perfectly)/all my today pluggins/skype/web viewer/media player (TCPMP).
The HTC home pluggin I have (version 1.0 from www.freewarepocketpc.net) doesn't display icons correctly, with half of the home icon's icons (like messaging, sms, and missed calls) cut off half way, and the media player controller shows only half of each row of text for song info. This is probably due to the method of getting VGA resolution, but I'm no expert. The version 1.2 of the pluggin would install, and I could check the box to appear in today screen, but it wouldn't appear there.
Blufires said:
Since the Universal won't run 640 X 480 Video (I tried a wmv at 25 FPS and it played at about 4 FPS), the only noticeable advantage is in internet explorer.
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I play standard Divx on my uni.
TyTnII is better for received call without headset.
I love VGA, QVGA is too small for me.
I have two side-by-side here
I'm deliberating selling a Universal I've acquired as it is new condition: the problem I have is that there's something about it I like, which stops me wanting to.
Side by side and for general usage i can give my opinion here.
The cameras on the Uni and Tytn 2/Tilt are both awful. Tytn 2 has autofocus and more megapixels but seems slower for it.
Multimedia playback using Coreplayer seems better on the Uni, perhaps because of its more powerful processor.
Uni has no GPS but TyTn 2 GPS is too unreliable to use for me.
Screen is sharp and beautiful on the Uni, however colours are somewhat less saturated and the overall look is somewhat milkier than the TyTn 2. Despite its Quarter Vga resolution the screen on the TyTn 2 is NOTICEABLY brighter than that of the Uni and colours look much more vibrant.
Uni takes SD cards and will therefore work with ANY SD-derived card you might have lying about - for example a mini or micro sd. On the whole SDHC cards are cheaper than micro SDHC.
Overall feel and responsiveness of the Uni is much better in my opinion than the TyTn 2. scrolling with touchflo seems smoother, though this might have something to do with the higher resolution.
Uni battery life is poor. A good browsing session will likely flatten the battery within three hours; Tytn 2 holds out much longer.
Browsing is good on either device since Opera Mobile 9.5 hit these forums. The Tytn 2 is given a new lease of life as a browsing device with this software, which makes Internet Explorer look positively archaic. Browsing is however more enjoyable still on the Uni owing to the sharper fonts, particularly on overview mode.
The TyTn 2 is faster overall though as it offers HSDPA and HSUPA, whilst the UNI has only 3g (which seems a little sluggish at times).
Keyboard on the Uni is the best ever made for me, though suffers from the need to flip open and spin round when in PDA mode. The keyboard on the Tytn 2 is ABSOLUTELY AWFUL, with softkeys too close to both the screen bezel and the 'r', 't', 'i' and 'o' keys. It also regularly misses out letters and spaces resultingi n veryannoying typosw hen yout hought you'dpr essed all the right buttons!
Overall I will lament getting rid of the Uni, but hell it's 5p listing day and I won't need to deliberate once the touch diamond comes out....
Hello all,
I've recently purchased my first android device and wow is it cool. I've installed several different ROM's on it (CM7 253, Cm7.1, CM9, Cm7.2). What I've noticed is that the bottom has some issues that may hardware issues.
When I'm in a draw program I cannot draw fluidly near the bottom near the N button. Also when I use the pointer control utility in settings (forgot the name) it is nice an fluid for all of the screen EXCEPT on the side where the N button is. It will seems to get sporadic and will make contact, and not and I'll get dots and dashes instead of a nice fluid line. The soft buttons work fine but require more of a firm push when position in portrait mode.
I'm thinking hardware? This is on a refurbished nook BTW.
I can't get to the device as it's under the tree (for my wife).
Can someone test this and tell me if yours can create a fluid line drawing near the edge where the N button is?
Thanks,
Zack
I bought 9 NCs as christmas presents this year, I had to return 3 of the due to hardware problems (Thankfully I tested all of them the day I got them).
One of the ones I returned had poor touch sensitivity on the bottom of the screen which got progressively worse over a few minutes of use. I had to retype several letters when I was putting in the wifi password then it went into standby and I couldn't unlock the lock screen because it wasn't detecting my swipe. It would just jiggle a little. By the time I took it to B&N it wouldn't even jiggle. You'll have to send it back to a place in Reno but going into B&N will save you some time on the phone.
The other 2 had busted wifi (no signal even in B&N) and a sticky power button (every couple of times you tapped it it would stick and turn the device off). There's also a few with blue tinted screens but I didn't want to return those and play refurb roulette again.
Oh, and I just did some drawing in canvas (the notion ink app) and other than having difficulty drawing a straight line my nook works just fine along all the edges.
Wife got the tablet today and loves it. I was just mucking around with it and found the nook screen recalibrator and that seemed to completely solve my problem! Whatever isin that magic potion is great.
yeah, there can sometimes me issues with the digitizer that are almost universally fixed by screen recalibration.
Hi everyone.
I've copied my post from Lenovo forum to show you that Pen Only mode at OS level is very necessary for people who write with their pen on Thinkpad .
and now, Since the root is achieved, I want to know that is there any chance for a developer to do such tweak ?
Post from Lenovo's Forum :
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manuelcalavera wrote:
Hello Everyone, this is a proof that why we need a Pen Only mode for the whole system . yes, since our tablet has digitizer, there should be an option to work with the tablet with just our pen . An option to disable the touch layer entirely so we can write like a human being ! ( apart from hitting the bars and activate menus )
just download the video that shows everything :
http://www.mediafire.com/?snoh86t9drdiw8w
As you can see, writing is a hard thing to do without any cloth under my hand or gloves on .As I demonstrated, each time this problem occurs, It will be gone entirely by puting something under my palm . and it wont happen 99 percents when I write completely on a cloth.
To Development Team : Please fix this problem, Pen is the only advantage of your product .
pressing and holding one of the physical keys would be a nice choice for activate/deactivate it . so people who has not pen, could deal with it .
I've gathered some other post related to this matter :
manuelcalavera wrote:
I write all of my university courses in TPT and Ive been examining this issue every day. though this problem does not depend on the palm entirely , inking failure lowers to a really small percentage when you do not put your palm on the screen . for example I want to write PEN in a random coordinate of screen in a random part of random sentence . I stroke my pen down and move my hand to write the PEN down . it writes "P" and "N" very good but instead of "E", I can see nothing or in the best condition it writes only a dot --> "P. N" or "P N" Even though that IS a problem, It wouldnt if I could correct it. unfortunatley that certain area will be deactivate for a random amount of time . you can not write ANYTHING in that area during that time. not a single line . it will work nicely if you write a line from outside of that unspecific area into that area ! this shows theres no problem of inking in that position . and the funny thing is someother day this area had no problem and maybe tomorrow will be ok too even next page will be ok . imagin how hard it would be that random area, in a complex formula ! you will lose important amount of time to deal with tha mess. now palm thing comes in the story from this sequence; remember that unknown duration of time that you could not ink anything in that area ? well, if you put a cloth under your palm, it works so much better . Lenovo, too many people are losing trace of notes, too many disappointments just for this . how hard is it for your team to roll an update to add an option for turning the touch input off ? holding harware rotation key would be awesome choice
Rizzlomaniac wrote:
I have the same problem with my Thinkpad Tablet. It doesn't matter which app I use. I don't use any screen protector. As I have been enjoying the comfort of a stylus on a windows tablet before and was looking forward to move away from Microsoft with this tablet, I'm really disappointed to find, that the stylus I not usefull at all beeing that unresponsive. So please fix this issue as fast as possible or I will have to switch back to windows again!
juanayala85 wrote:
I was taking notes during a seminar last week and noticed that on the bundled Notes App, there were certain areas of the screen (middle left) where the pen just wouldnt respond at times. I would try a few times and then it would finally take the input, wondering if anyone else is having similar issues. I downloaded the WritePad application and it seems to be better there, also downladed Quill and saw that it was having similar issues so I'm wondering if its app related or hardware related. I'd love for the pen to start inking immediately as I start drawing, not start well after the stroke has begun.
Also note I have installed the Military Shield on the ThinkPad so not sure if this might have something to do with it also.
dgannon wrote:
I've seen the same thing (for me - a right hander - it normally shows up on the middle right side of the screen). To me it seems like the palm rejection in the note app is the problem.
I was able to get around this by placing a small cloth (the one I use for wiping the screen) under the heel of my hand while writing... since it is a capacitive screen, the cloth hides the palm and seems to make the pen behave better.
yahoowizard wrote:
I'm not sure if I have the same problem, but is it when you keep writing and suddenly, there are moments when nothing happens when you tap the pen, sometimes at a specific region? Over the past week or so, I've used the Writepad application for about 4 hours a day or so and what happens is, a while after writing, a region starts being a bit unresponsive. Either I keep tapping random buttons on the side or I try to make a stroke outside that region, then try to immediately write in the region I'm actually trying to write in. Locking the tablet, then unlocking it fixes the problem, but it's still annoying as it starts back up again in 10 minutes or some random time later.
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I agree. I am an artist and the dual screen sensor does get in the way of my art. I can manage, but would highly appreciate if it were able to switch on and off the compacitive touch function on demand.
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I dont see any actual development here
They announced that it will be built in in OTA3
It is on the Lenovo website - a post by bnsf
I have a request if someone could make such a program (or point me to one that already exists)
I "think" what I want is pretty simple (I hope)
all I want is a black on white or white on black (toggleable day/night automatically) landscape
so daytime would be MAX screen brightness white with black letters. night time would be minimum screen brightness black with white letters (all on its own use approximate night/day times or use light sensor if available)
I would like live lat and long coords and my speed and direction of travel. (from gps not compass)
large letters fill the screen.
No internet (phone won't even be active) and one last thing.
when external power applied turn on and stay on (auto load on boot if phone off) it should run as service and keep itself running restarting if its not running.
when external power is removed put phone to deepest sleep state.
So you have context here is why I wish for this.
I run a "dash cam" its fun I like camera's and I get some "neat stuff" every now and then.
I really like the new ones that embed lat long and speed right in the video with the time and date.
alas the prices goes from $74 to $125 for a nice high def unit to over $300 if you want that last feature ouch.
so I got to thinking. what if I placed a droid phone on my dash so the camera could "SEE" it (its 720p and the new one will be 1080p so it will be readable)
the trick is making it transparent in use. IE automatic.
turn on when I start the car turn off when I stop the car (engine off ie no power) to preserve battery. most droids screen off with no radio's active can go several days between charges)
any chance this is something that could be made pretty easily? or maybe already exists?
My Nook STR display looks like it has worn out or faded out.The (black) colour seems worn out , dimmed and heavy ghosting.(even after shut down, see the attached images).I can recover it bit by refreshing the scree (everytime I turn a page) but it is annoying and distracting.And this happen after about 5 min of booting and soon after nook start it look ok (but dimmed a bit)
This started to happen about a month ago and I have been using my Nook for 2 years now without any problem.
To solve this I restored it using the Nook Manager but the problem remains.
Please give me your views and advice. I am suspecting a hardware problem.
Note I don't use any apps like NoRefresher or FastMode.
[I'm new to this thread posting and apology for mistakes]
Thank You in advance
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I'm no expert but I can't imagine that something like that is NOT hardware-related.
NookST Student said:
My Nook STR display looks like it has worn out or faded out.The (black) colour seems worn out , dimmed and heavy ghosting.(even after shut down, see the attached images).I can recover it bit by refreshing the scree (everytime I turn a page) but it is annoying and distracting.And this happen after about 5 min of booting and soon after nook start it look ok (but dimmed a bit)
This started to happen about a month ago and I have been using my Nook for 2 years now without any problem.
To solve this I restored it using the Nook Manager but the problem remains.
Please give me your views and advice. I am suspecting a hardware problem.
Note I don't use any apps like NoRefresher or FastMode.
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If the problem remains after you did a "factory restore/reset" then it is most likely hardware related.
My NST had ghosting issue when I was experimenting with FastMode/NoRefresher but it went away after I did factory reset and went with a less exotic kernel hack.
Thank you for your response guys
I think I could zoom in the problem.
I took several screen shots using the screen shot app in one of these threads
Surprisingly those images are perfect.
I think the software is working fine.
So the problem is in the display or the display driver. And I notice that the e ink display has becomer darker even when the Nook is power off.
Is there any way to test the display driver ?
Hmm, that looks strange.
It's certainly not the frame buffer, but you already proved that.
Dumping the frame buffer will give you a nice, clean shot.
It could be that the (plug-in) display itself has a problem.
It could be that the voltages out of the (electronic) driver are screwed up.
It could be that the VCom or the EPD waveforms are screwed up.
The first thing that I'd try would be plugging in another display.
I'd also check the dmesg to see if something happened.
You should see stuff similar to this (editted) version:
Code:
DSPTrace:=== DSP: Load waveforms for t = 25 ===
DSPTrace:=== DSP: EINK parser version 1.07 (MV5) ===
DSPTrace:-I- Mode Version: 0 INIT, 1 DU, 2 GC16, 3 GC16(r), 4 A2, 5 GL16, ...
DSPTrace:-I- WMTA = 000047 (hex)
DSPTrace:-I- Ranges: 0-3-6-9-12-15-18-21-24-27-30-33-38-43-48
DSPTrace:-I- [4] Loaded ID = 5, t = 24 - 27, Subframes = 38
Thank you Renate
I checked the dmesg log and found this part is different
DSPTrace:=== DSP: Load waveforms for t = 29
I am not an expert so I attached the log.
Testing with another display is the most reliable method but that takes time as I have to import one from China.:crying:
So is there anyother way to check the display driver ?
I checked the display cable it is perfect. I am really confused but also VERY curious to figure out this mystery
More pictures of disembled display ( isn't is look strange the ghosting even when no power)
No, your dmesg log looks fine.
It's just that your room is warmer than mine!
It looks pretty low-level, driver voltages or display.
I'm sure somebody who works for the display manufacturer could tell you in a second exactly what it is.
Renate NST said:
No, your dmesg log looks fine.
It's just that your room is warmer than mine!
It looks pretty low-level, driver voltages or display.
I'm sure somebody who works for the display manufacturer could tell you in a second exactly what it is.
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Thanks Renate
I think the only way to check (or solve) this issue is to plug a new display.
I was reluctant to spend on a display (nearly $25):crying:
But I ordered one from ebay and now waiting for it .
However, do you think the weather has any effect on the eink displays ?
I found a similar thread from mobileread forum. One poster reports a similar issue with kindle and sony readers.
Permanently screen fading over time problem in e-ink readers - MobileRead Forums
Several posters say they are in Asian countries.So I am also in asia (Sri lanka) So I wonder whether there is a connection.
I could tell you to fiddle with the EpdWaveforms and stuff, but that is a bit of black magic.
Your waveforms are apparently happy and loading.
I don't remember if B&N really set the Vcom on their devices before they left the factory.
The good thing with playing with the Vcom is that it's easily editable.
You said that you took your Nook apart.
Did you see the sticker on the back of the Epd connector?
That tells you the common voltage to the panel, around -2 Volts.
(The barcode says the same thing in Code128B, "-2.25".)
That should correlate to the value in /rom/devconf/epdVcom
You can try changing it if it doesn't.
It probably won't make a big effect, this is more fine-tuning for gray scale.
In my case:
Code:
echo -n "-2250" > epdVcom
(The number is in millivolts, with a minus sign.)
I dunno, put your Nook in the fridge and see if other waveforms work better.
The voltage is the same Renate. But I don't think there is a problem with the Rom and other software stuff.Because I did a complete system restore and the problem remains.
What really bug me is whenever I boot it (or reboot) the screen become ok with clear text.But after about 10 min (this time varies) the problem happens.
I think it is difficult to troubleshoot without a new screen.Plus I haven't seen people complaining about faulty motherboards.This makes me hopeful. (correct me if I am wrong on this)
Anyway Thank you Renate for your time and effort I saw you always trying to help many posters here. Keep up the good work!
Update
I got a brand new display from a ebay seller and my Nook is better than a brand new.
The fading issue is in the display.
The new display is whiter and has better contrast than the orginal one.
The best thing is I can use Renate's Temblast Reader without complete Refresh.
I don't know whether the new display has high DPP but I am more than happy.
I think the weather has an effect on Eink displays.
Thank You Everybody for your kind consideration and advice specially Renate. (Renate look forward to see an updated version of your fantastic Reader app with dictionary and bookmark)