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Camera samples

Now that we have gotten past the rooted camera issue, let see what people can do with 20.7 megapixels of sony goodness.
So I'll start.
Taken using the Google camera App photosphere mode

Lambo at the diner!

Burlingtonrox said:
Now that we have gotten past the rooted camera issue, let see what people can do with 20.7 megapixels of sony goodness.
So I'll start.
Taken using the Google camera App photosphere mode
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What do you mean "gotten past" the issue? My understanding is there is no current solution

Burlingtonrox said:
Now that we have gotten past the rooted camera issue, let see what people can do with 20.7 megapixels of sony goodness.
So I'll start.
Taken using the Google camera App photosphere mode
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Looks quite amazing that:good:

Ray_Banci said:
Lambo at the diner!
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Is this on a bootloader locked phone?

King p1n said:
Looks quite amazing that:good:
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Why are there blurred out spots through out the picture? (Like by the graffiti on the rocks.)

unk3 said:
Why are there blurred out spots through out the picture? (Like by the graffiti on the rocks.)
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Same question, do you have any more samples to share in full resolution? Thanks!

Some samples
Hello all.
I've had the device for around 2 weeks now, so I can't say I have mastered it.
My experience says that It is definitely not as easy as an iPhone that you just point and shoot and 9 out of 10 you will get a good photo.
This phone/sensor has great capabilities BUT you need to work on the settings.
Here are some samples from these 2 weeks I have been using it.
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SAMPLES HERE
More will be added in time.

Did you use the default camera app, or maybe some alternatives? I like ProCapture, but the focus speed and overall snappiness is better with stock camera app.
Nice pictures thou, the manual mode selection and exposure compenstaion is really visible.

bengadget said:
Is this on a bootloader locked phone?
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Yes, I don't need root as one doesn't need battery improving tweaks on this phone.
unk3 said:
Why are there blurred out spots through out the picture? (Like by the graffiti on the rocks.)
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What you see is a not focused picture stitched into the pano. Third party cameras like google camera sometimes doesn't focus correctly, they don't wait long enough for the focus on this phone.
payaxy said:
Same question, do you have any more samples to share in full resolution? Thanks!
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None that are good.

Burlingtonrox said:
Yes, I don't need root as one doesn't need battery improving tweaks on this phone.
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Since this is on a locked bootloader, I would like to point out that I've created such a topic already in the Themes and Apps section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/themes-apps/post-pictures-xperia-z3-compact-t2889119

There already is a thread for this here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/themes-apps/post-pictures-xperia-z3-compact-t2889119
Thread closed.

Android 6 just got the Z5 Camera for Z3C!

I know a lot of you have been waiting for a better Camera UI.
Finally in the latest Android 6 Beta, there is a new camera UI, which they will be improving on!
Superior Auto still only has an 8MP option Hopefully they will improve upon that.
The UI is the same as the Z5 Camera, with a few improvements to suit the Z3C (Improvements / downgrades )

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Finally in the latest Android 6 Beta, there is a new camera UI, which they will be improving on!
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Are you talking about the MM beta that came out in early March and made its way to XDA around March 13th?

varxx said:
Are you talking about the MM beta that came out in early March and made its way to XDA around March 13th?
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Yes, sorry forgot to mention this is the Marshmallow Sony Concept ^^

Just new UI, no API2

can someone port it to stock lollipop?

So it's just a change of interface, or there is also a performance upgrade to the camera?

searchworlds said:
So it's just a change of interface, or there is also a performance upgrade to the camera?
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They said that they will focus on improving the Camera from now on. Hopefully they are fixing the bad Image Processing

BloodEdge said:
Just new UI, no API2
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What is the API2 ? and what are the improvements on the current API on z3c?

arakhan said:
What is the API2 ? and what are the improvements on the current API on z3c?
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the most important thing... manual controls, ALL OF THEM

nzzane said:
I know a lot of you have been waiting for a better Camera UI.
Finally in the latest Android 6 Beta, there is a new camera UI, which they will be improving on!
Superior Auto still only has an 8MP option Hopefully they will improve upon that.
The UI is the same as the Z5 Camera, with a few improvements to suit the Z3C (Improvements / downgrades )
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I seriously doubt they will change that, but there are mods, which does what you want:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...z1-z4-z5-camera-1-0-unlocked-20-23mp-t3335412
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/mod-xperia-camera-unlocked-t3071161
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They said that they will focus on improving the Camera from now on. Hopefully they are fixing the bad Image Processing
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Well from what I have seen Sonys image processing is not that bad at all, it is quite the opposite, check this thread and you will see what I mean:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/camera-picture-samples-unlock-t2898606
With that being said, there are camera mods available which will use the camera processing libraries from the Z5 on Z3 Compact as well, but I wouldn't expect Sony to improve the camera quality on a phone which is over 1 years old, that seems very unlikely in my opinon....
But you can flash these camera-mods by yourself, I haven't tried these myself, so I can't tell if it's how it's working (not sure about if works with Marsmallow either);
http://forum.xda-developers.com/cro...-xperia-z5-premium-camera-libs-files-t3260819

not so good
after this update (MMB29M.Z1.3555) i cannot record video. it says:
Error
Cannot record video. Recording or function connected with recording could be used by another app.
Any idea how to solve this issue?

greebo6 said:
after this update (MMB29M.Z1.3555) i cannot record video. it says:
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Cannot record video. Recording or function connected with recording could be used by another app.
Any idea how to solve this issue?
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I have the same issue. A workaround that will allow you to record video is to disable Google Now 'Ok Google' detection on any screen.

alibabzo said:
I have the same issue. A workaround that will allow you to record video is to disable Google Now 'Ok Google' detection on any screen.
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thank you! it works

Google Camera HDR+ function can be activated on Mate 9's?

Recently seen that for the latest 8** series Snapdragon SOC driven devices the HDR+ function on Google Camera was made functional on most of devices. The results in comparison to their original camera seems day and night from all points of view especially in low-light situations. As we now this seems to be Achilles heel for the Mate 9 and maybe the biggest reason that most of us lookup for other devices.
As I am no expert, I wonder if this function can be made functional on Kirin chipsets!? I want to take this opportunity to pull the alarm for the developers' and for the skillful members of this forum.
If successful most likely most of us won't look that soon for the planned new launches like: Note 8, V30, maybe even the next Mate.

You can do it yourself you know. Just shoot several raw images and combine them into one in post. Not as quick as HDR+ but it works!

Swan Princess said:
You can do it yourself you know. Just shoot several raw images and combine them into one in post. Not as quick as HDR+ but it works!
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That thing already know, but regardless of how hard you try (any app or setup) you cannot achieve results that good. Plus google camera's exposure is much better. Please check this thing yourself if you don't believe me.

does google camera even work on mate 9?

galaxy16 said:
does google camera even work on mate 9?
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Yes. But not the most recent ones. The ones for 7.0 work.

True HDR uses three different images that you then assemble in a photo editing suite of your choice. The 'HDR' function in any phone is not a true HDR and just a computer algorithm that blends three exposures. Since the Mate 9 shoots raw, most will just do it the 'real' way Would be neat to see this function in the Mate 9 for us lazy folks(yes I am lazy and yes I am a professional photographer)

Ok, so no interest in this direction, nobody keen on improving the camera.

Not what I was saying at all. If we can improve the camera and keep all the functions built into it by Huawei, I would be first in line to sign up. Hell, I bought this phone specifically because of the camera. It is a wonderful performer that I have not even begun to stretch to the limits yet, but I have only had the phone for 3 days or so. I look forward to an improved camera, but only without the loss of functionality

Here we go: Unofficial Google Camera port updated with RAW support and HDR+ customization

kermex said:
Here we go: Unofficial Google Camera port updated with RAW support and HDR+ customization
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Man, won't even open. That's ok, I figured it wouldn't. Would cool if we could merge some code with our stock camera app. I like it better than Google's personally

benjmiester said:
Man, won't even open. That's ok, I figured it wouldn't. Would cool if we could merge some code with our stock camera app. I like it better than Google's personally
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It working fine on my Mate 9.

kermex said:
It working fine on my Mate 9.
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Really? Interesting. Did you do anything specific or just install and go? I'm in FromFuture B198, rooted obviously. Maybe it's not happy with that. I'll try restarting at least.

benjmiester said:
Really? Interesting. Did you do anything specific or just install and go? I'm in FromFuture B198, rooted obviously. Maybe it's not happy with that. I'll try restarting at least.
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No, I didn't do anything special. But pay attention: there are two different APKs. One of them is for Qualcomm CPUs. Download the one in the first link. This one.

Hey guys, I've tried the other one I think and crashed the camera driver had to reboot! Lemmie try this one! Thanks kermex
Edit: Nope! I open once, then can't open again :/ Oh well... Another curious thing is that it only detects the 12MB RGB Sensor... These sensores have so much potential, hope Huawei will get into the Camera Software deeper...

So now it works, change hw level to legacy.

Comparing histograms using 2 pictures, one is stock HDR and the other is using the Google Camera HDR+, I can conclude that HDR+ isn't working, can't see any improvements regarding dynamic range. What do you guys think?

mad.nexus said:
So now it works, change hw level to legacy.
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The only thing I changed was the option to save as RAW. Nothing else.

will test it with several set-ups to see if any improvement comes from the HDR+ function.

mad.nexus said:
Comparing histograms using 2 pictures, one is stock HDR and the other is using the Google Camera HDR+, I can conclude that HDR+ isn't working, can't see any improvements regarding dynamic range. What do you guys think?
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if there isnt a "nike" mark above the HDR+ icon, the function is not working
i tried using different settings, but not work for me, stay an "A" above HDR+

Looserke said:
if there isnt a "nike" mark above the HDR+ icon, the function is not working
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Soooo... How did you activate it then?

Camera Update (Autofocus issues etc.)

Hello,
since there are problems with the camera software, I am opening this thread to discuss your experiences and software update news.
I got my S20U Exynos variant today and straight out of the box there was an OTA (430MB) available which stated that the camera experience has been improved. It got better because I have tested it before the update but the autofocus is still "jumpy" and has problems with objects that are near to the phone. Even if i turn on the setting to adapt autofocus to the selected object in the viewer, it still jumps
EDIT: I did some tests today with my own face using the main sensor and the oversharpening / skin smoothing is gone. I tested it with HDR turned off and on.
EDIT 23.03.2020:
Look at this video guys. Focus hunting is gone. Sorry, I have orange blinds and the sun was shining directly on those.
https://streamable.com/ckj6d

buddy66 said:
Hello,
since there are problems with the camera software, I am opening this thread to discuss your experiences and software update news.
I got my S20U Exynos variant today and straight out of the box there was an OTA (430MB) available which stated that the camera experience has been improved. It got better because I have tested it before the update but the autofocus is still "jumpy" and has problems with objects that are near to the phone. Even if i turn on the setting to adapt autofocus to the selected object in the viewer, it still jumps
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Did the update bring any changes to the over sharpening / skin smoothing with the man lens?

ZayaanAhyaan said:
Did the update bring any changes to the over sharpening / skin smoothing with the man lens?
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I have just tested it with my own face at work in bureau using the main sensor and the oversharpening / skin smoothing is gone. I tested it with HDR turned off and on.

Plz keep us updated on the auto focus issue

buddy66 said:
Hello,
since there are problems with the camera software, I am opening this thread to discuss your experiences and software update news.
I got my S20U Exynos variant today and straight out of the box there was an OTA (430MB) available which stated that the camera experience has been improved. It got better because I have tested it before the update but the autofocus is still "jumpy" and has problems with objects that are near to the phone. Even if i turn on the setting to adapt autofocus to the selected object in the viewer, it still jumps
EDIT: I did some tests today with my own face using the main sensor and the oversharpening / skin smoothing is gone. I tested it with HDR turned off and on.
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I'm thinking the update you got, is the same as all of us. What's the sw#.

Here are the details for the one with camera improvements
https://9to5google.com/2020/03/05/galaxy-s20-camera-update-samsung/amp/

VZTech said:
I'm thinking the update you got, is the same as all of us. What's the sw#.
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It is the ATBM.

buddy66 said:
It is the ATBM.
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That's not the camera fix one. We all have that.

VZTech said:
That's not the camera fix one. We all have that.
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I just did a little research and it should be the ATC2, right? The one that we all have also fixed the face photos with main camera.

buddy66 said:
I just did a little research and it should be the ATC2, right? The one that we all have also fixed the face photos with main camera.
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Yes, that one. Hopefully it comes before my return period. If not, I'm sending it back.

ATC2 is already out in South Korea. Should be in the US in a few days or about a week the most

Djapatos said:
ATC2 is already out in South Korea. Should be in the US in a few days or about a week the most
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Lets hope so!!
As has been stated, ATBM is the one that everyone already has and it definitely did nothing for the camera.

Specific to the S20 Ultra, what about subjects' edge blurriness issue due to narrow Plane of Focus? - it can only minimally get resolved or may not at all..?
For reference, attaching pics taken from YT:
MKBHD(at 9:31) and Danny Winget(at 1:41). Marques explained it pretty well on why it might not!
Edit: S20 Ultra users with the OTA updates( "ATBR" & "ATC2") installed can check and report..

so in Germany i got a Day1 update but it seems to be only the March security patch. the update was a Little less than 500mb.
the autofocus is kinda slow in compare to the s10+
and the autofocus has some Trouble tu Focus with zoom 5+ and distance lower than 5 meters
update:
in the patchnotes
- better cam perf.
- enhanced security 4 the device
Version G99BXXU1ATBM
431.19 MB
so hopefully there will be another update to improve the cam

neigo said:
so in Germany i got a Day1 update but it seems to be only the March security patch. the update was a Little less than 500mb.
the autofocus is kinda slow in compare to the s10+
and the autofocus has some Trouble tu Focus with zoom 5+ and distance lower than 5 meters
update:
in the patchnotes
- better cam perf.
- enhanced security 4 the device
Version G99BXXU1ATBM
431.19 MB
so hopefully there will be another update to improve the cam
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I think that this update fixed the problems with the main camera when capturing photos with a recognizable face. I have tested it yesterday and it does not change the colour of my face or make it smoother.
Virgo_Guy said:
Specific to the S20 Ultra, what about subjects' edge blurriness issue due to narrow Plane of Focus? - it can only minimally get resolved or may not at all..?
For reference, attaching pics taken from YT:
MKBHD(at 9:31) and Danny Winget(at 1:41). Marques explained it pretty well on why it might not!
Edit: S20 Ultra users with the OTA updates( "ATBR" & "ATC2") installed can check and report..
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I have already read some feedback from gsmarena who stated: According to TizenHelp, users are reporting improved function of both autofocus and manual focusing on the Galaxy S20 Ultra.
- It is nice to hear that but we need to wait for some comparisons or a wider update push. I have also watched how Marques explained the narrow point of focus on the Ultra and he might be right but that hardware masterpiece has other sensors to help the main one with information so maybe it can be fixed with software update. I have already asked German Samsung support about when the update is going to roll out because the camera is almost useless and that I am very disappointed about it. Of course I also wrote that if it does not happen before the return window closes, they will get that hardware back, simple.
EDIT: They just answered that they do not know when the update is going to roll out. They also did not respond to me being disappointed so I asked for Tier 2 Support or Customer Relations response.
EDIT2: This was already a Tier 2 answer and they do not know on their own when it is going to arrive because it is being rolled out without properly informing all Samsung Sites.

buddy66 said:
I think that this update fixed the problems with the main camera when capturing photos with a recognizable face. I have tested it yesterday and it does not change the colour of my face or make it smoother.
I have already read some feedback from gsmarena who stated: According to TizenHelp, users are reporting improved function of both autofocus and manual focusing on the Galaxy S20 Ultra.
- It is nice to hear that but we need to wait for some comparisons or a wider update push. I have also watched how Marques explained the narrow point of focus on the Ultra and he might be right but that hardware masterpiece has other sensors to help the main one with information so maybe it can be fixed with software update. I have already asked German Samsung support about when the update is going to roll out because the camera is almost useless and that I am very disappointed about it. Of course I also wrote that if it does not happen before the return window closes, they will get that hardware back, simple.
EDIT: They just answered that they do not know when the update is going to roll out. They also did not respond to me being disappointed so I asked for Tier 2 Support or Customer Relations response.
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Autofocus/manual focusing improved, but I think let's not mix it up with the Plane of Focus limitation i.e. after the object is in focus, clicked, the pic is sharp on few places but blurry elsewhere on the same object.
As for Samsung support(customer support?) about Samsung, I will rather ask my Pets about it..

Virgo_Guy said:
Autofocus/manual focusing improved, but I think let's not mix it up with the Plane of Focus limitation i.e. after the object is in focus, clicked, the pic is sharp on few places but blurry elsewhere on the same object.
As for Samsung support(customer support?) about Samsung, I will rather ask my Pets about it..
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I know that support from such big companies is mostly not helpful but if they throw a voucher for something, then there is at least something useful you get if they cannot help. As I have written before, the other lenses could help with the Plane of Focus. Maybe Samsung will figure it out. Samsung integrated Google Duo so let Google guys improve the camera software :silly:

They're not going to be able to fix the narrow focus depth of close up images. Have you ever noticed that "fast" zoom lenses with constant aperture for cameras are invariably heavy and expensive? That's because they cram in several aspherical lens in there to be able to maintain the wide aperture. But on a camera lens, you can adjust the aperture if you want to increase the focus plane. The Ultra has a variable zoom with fixed aperture, so it's a trade off. They may be able to improve the focus hunting issues but I doubt it will ever match the speed and precision of the dpaf of their cheaper siblings.
For this reason I changed my pre-order at the last minute to the s20 plus. My subjects are typically closer range shots that are moving (my kids), so auto focus performance is important.

Virgo_Guy said:
Specific to the S20 Ultra, what about subjects' edge blurriness issue due to narrow Plane of Focus? - it can only minimally get resolved or may not at all..?
For reference, attaching pics taken from YT:
MKBHD(at 9:31) and Danny Winget(at 1:41). Marques explained it pretty well on why it might not!
Edit: S20 Ultra users with the OTA updates( "ATBR" & "ATC2") installed can check and report..
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That's an artifact of the sensor size, the only way to fix it would be artifical sharpening or taking multiple photos and combining them.

_Dennis_ said:
That's an artifact of the sensor size, the only way to fix it would be artifical sharpening or taking multiple photos and combining them.
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That!
It's a feature, not a bug.
The culprit is fixed aperture.

S20 ULTRA Camera update

New camera update from galaxy store and its worse than before...
What hare you fu***cking us SAMSUNG...

Nmc_alves® said:
New camera update from galaxy store and its worse than before...
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worse? why?

zjhao said:
worse? why?
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I have'nt see the update, i maked sommes photos and i see a very bad quality on focus and the zoom 4x and 5x is digital... you have optical zoom after 10x onli and you see a big diference betuen 9.9x to 10x zoom...
Look there

Nmc_alves® said:
I have'nt see the update, i maked sommes photos and i see a very bad quality on focus and the zoom 4x and 5x is digital... you have optical zoom after 10x onli and you see a big diference betuen 9.9x to 10x zoom...
Look there
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I've got the update too, but i don't have the issue
Optical zoom work from 4x as it should be

olivfun said:
I've got the update too, but i don't have the issue
Optical zoom work from 4x as it should be
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Try to cover tehe tele cam with your finger and tel me ... focus on objects at 50_60cm
If you dont cover the tele cam you dont see it

Nmc_alves® said:
Try to cover tehe tele cam with your finger and tel me ...
If you dont cover the tele cam you dont see it
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look at here Got S20U exy btw
h t t p s: // streamable . com / 1rc925
remove spaces

It is sad you are crying but you just don't know how your phone works...
When you go up to 10x it changes sensor and uses 108mpx for telephoto
Of course this is not made to focus on stuff 1 meter from the camera
Try using it in real conditions...

Nmc_alves® said:
New camera update from galaxy store and its worse than before...
What hare you fu***cking us SAMSUNG...
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Hello
reset of config (camera) solved it for me

Raphy511 said:
It is sad you are crying but you just don't know how your phone works...
When you go up to 10x it changes sensor and uses 108mpx for telephoto
Of course this is not made to focus on stuff 1 meter from the camera
Try using it in real conditions...
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I know how my cam works before the update...bether than after update

jarod27 said:
Hello
reset of config (camera) solved it for me
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Nothing change for me after clean cam data

Nmc_alves® said:
I know how my cam works before the update...bether than after update
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He is wrong.108mp camera is just for up to x4 zoom.All above that is telephoto.Don't spread wrong informations.Yea sure sansung will put PERISCOPE camera of 48mp and than use main camera for over x10 focus what a genius ? The deal is that up to(from x1 to x5 is pure otpical zoom)10x is hybrid zoom it uses both periscope and main camera for above x10 times its only periscope without main camera.Al above 10 zoom is only periscope camera and its just croping not zoom.But keep in mind if you zoom x3 it will be only main camera croping you cant zoom less than 5x times wtih periscope.

Seems OK here on unlocked USA version.
Will be testing some more to see.
I didn't even reset settings/clear cache.
I'm glad I didn't get Exynos. Usually do for unlockable BL and custom roms but I'm over that now.
I still have older Exynos phones I can do that with.
And my personal numbers are on Verizon so there's that.

The new update made this camera worse! If they don't have this camera figured out soon, I'm getting rid of my Ultra.

For 4x - 9.9x, if you're focusing a relatively close object, it will use the main camera, but if you focus something far away, it will use the telephoto camera. At least, that's the behaviour I'm having (ATCT firmware / camera version 10.0.03.2).

thecarp1975 said:
The new update made this camera worse! If they don't have this camera figured out soon, I'm getting rid of my Ultra.
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No it didn't. It clearly made it better.

pafc66 said:
No it didn't. It clearly made it better.
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Really? Try taking a picture of something that has text from 6 - 8 inches away. Unacceptable for $1400.

thecarp1975 said:
Really? Try taking a picture of something that has text from 6 - 8 inches away. Unacceptable for $1400.
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Stop complaining, it's easy to solve

zjhao said:
Stop complaining, it's easy to solve
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Doesn't help,

thecarp1975 said:
Doesn't help,
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Return it. Or import the snapdragon model. I haven't had those issues. Camera is almost perfect apart from some poor HDR processing at times.

Text has always been an issue with this phone.
It has a very narrow range of focus.