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Camera Performance?

So I have read in a few places that the camera on the DVP isn't so hot.
Can anyone that has one comment on this?
Thanks!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833298
It's a DVP vs HD7 thread, but OP has samples from DVP. Some people also stated the DVP camera is OK during daylight shots, its in low light environments when it starts to perform poorly.

fatdragondzc said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833298
It's a DVP vs HD7 thread, but OP has samples from DVP. Some people also stated the DVP camera is OK during daylight shots, its in low light environments when it starts to perform poorly.
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I can back this up. With enough light, the DVP does very well. Where there is low or little light the shutter speed is way too slow to make anything come into focus.
WP7 in general, or DVP issue, the auto white balance/iso settings are pretty garbage and need to be optimized to ever be used properly. The only decent pictures I have gotten have been with all auto settings disabled.

only thing that has me a little worried about the DVP is this...
youtube.com/watch?v=FMhM3InAzwc
apparently the camera quality kinda sucks unless in direct sunlight.

Yea, this is what I suspected.
Now the question is whether it is a software issue or a much larger hardware issue.
I have a TP2 now, which doesn't have a flash but takes pretty good pics.
Although this is not a dealbreaker, it is just another chink in the big picture as I have been waffling between G2 and the DVP.

Epic fail!
After some time with the VP, I can honestly say this is the most awful 'cell phone' camera I have seen.
Yesterday I tried to take a picture of the IMEI number on the Vibrant. look at the difference... between VP and the G2.
I tried a lot of things with the VP but still nothing. I have no hope for this camera. Also However steady you hold it (even some 3 sec after the shot) you always end with a blurry unusable picture.
The only pic you can ever take is of landscape in bright sunlight.View attachment 445085

Spankmeister said:
Although this is not a dealbreaker, it is just another chink in the big picture as I have been waffling between G2 and the DVP.
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If you are not a 'compulsive' early adapter [like me ] then G2 is million times better... It's not even a close fight.
My exp with android was a few weeks with G1 and a few weeks with myTouch3G. I hated it, I always thought like they tired too hard to be like iPhone but didn't have that finesse.
Then a month back got the G2 after liking the Android on my HD2. and I'm in love. I like the whole widget approach, I like it that all that I need is on the home screens (not unlike what WM7 promises but it's not there yet). Go to the G2 forum and check the home page screen shots... no two android phone will look alike.
And there so many 'tweaking' possibility.

I checked the EXIF information of the pics taken with Venue Pro posted in this thread. Interestingly, the reported camera name wasn't branded as coming from a Dell Venue Pro (unlike the Samsung Focus which reports Camera: Samsung SGH-I917). I guess Dell forgot to change that EXIF field.
Instead we have Camera: OmniVision OV5642. This is the same sensor used in the iPhone 4's rear camera. I don't know how good the iPhone 4's camera is, but I guess this means that hardware-wise we should expect the same performance from the Venue Pro. Hopefully the current problems can still be fixed by Dell whether its software-related or just build quality issues.

Interesting observation. It also makes you wonder how they could *** it up so big time.

Can anyone confirm that the camera does in fact take blurry low light pictures? Can this be fixed with an update or is it a hardware issue?

last i heard dell was actually looking into the camera issue and settings. Hopefully they will have a fix for us

Actually I go to OmniVision's website and get a quick check. it's quite likely that it's just the sensor, excluding the camera. so you can easily answer the question of why the pics from a same DSLR can differ this much - the lenses are different. searched for pictures of IP4, DVP and Omnia 7. based on subjective comparison of the pictures, IP4's lens seems the best and Omnia 7 the worst...
Anyway, let's wait for Dell's patch.

My success with the camera so far . . . taken today
In sun light
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Low light
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4962/wp000008.jpg
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High night light
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http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/4121/wp000030o.jpg
Flash
http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/6615/wp000021.jpg
PC screen close up
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/1269/wp000024.jpg

enders4you said:
My success with the camera so far . . . taken today
WOW! they look great! but are these the best among the many shots or just random ones relatively easily achieved following certain guidance?
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I did not have to take multiple shots to get just one . . . however for the low light pictures I went into the settings and adjusted the iso to 400-800 and set it to sports mode to get them that good . . . auto . . . no so much.

[Q] Camera tweaking help please

Greetings all, I just got the N3 upgrading from the N2 and without doing any tweaking I am finding my the camera performance poor compared to the N2. Is there something I need to tweak? I didn't really do anything at all to the N2 and got the best camera performance I've ever had on a phone. But so far the N3 is so bad I'm considering returning it if I can't fix this somehow. And yes, I did take the protective plastic off the camera

saznpins said:
Greetings all, I just got the N3 upgrading from the N2 and without doing any tweaking I am finding my the camera performance poor compared to the N2. Is there something I need to tweak? I didn't really do anything at all to the N2 and got the best camera performance I've ever had on a phone. But so far the N3 is so bad I'm considering returning it if I can't fix this somehow. And yes, I did take the protective plastic off the camera
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Have you gone into settings and put it on 16 mp

This has been answered tons of times in other threads, learn to search.
Basically people complain about the camera on the Note 3 when it's actually amazing. Take it outside and take a picture and you'll have stunning quality. When it becomes darker it got a hard time since they have removed the Night Time feature and inserted another method instead. This is mostly software related issues rather than hardware.

Yes, I tried 13M, 9.6 which is what it was set on out of the box and 8M. Doesn't make a difference. But thank you for trying to help.
And BunnyPig, don't be an ahole. I DID search but I haven't found ANY threads with an issue like mine. Outdoor pictures are JUST AS BLURRY as indoor. It has nothing do do with a lack of night mode, pictures that are normal, daytime indoor ambient light pictures should not be out of focus. This camera just will not focus. After looking around I see nothing that addresses this issue anywhere. Think it may be a bad unit and hardware releated. But thanks for nothing.

saznpins said:
Yes, I tried 13M, 9.6 which is what it was set on out of the box and 8M. Doesn't make a difference. But thank you for trying to help.
And BunnyPig, don't be an ahole. I DID search but I haven't found ANY threads with an issue like mine. Outdoor pictures are JUST AS BLURRY as indoor. It has nothing do do with a lack of night mode, pictures that are normal, daytime indoor ambient light pictures should not be out of focus. This camera just will not focus. After looking around I see nothing that addresses this issue anywhere. Think it may be a bad unit and hardware releated. But thanks for nothing.
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Try focal camera on Google play see if it's better if not it might be a camera problem

Do you have the image stabilization feature enabled?
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danjng said:
Do you have the image stabilization feature enabled?
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Nope

Pictures
The N3 needs some light to take good pictures.
Point.

saznpins said:
Yes, I tried 13M, 9.6 which is what it was set on out of the box and 8M. Doesn't make a difference. But thank you for trying to help.
And BunnyPig, don't be an ahole. I DID search but I haven't found ANY threads with an issue like mine. Outdoor pictures are JUST AS BLURRY as indoor. It has nothing do do with a lack of night mode, pictures that are normal, daytime indoor ambient light pictures should not be out of focus. This camera just will not focus. After looking around I see nothing that addresses this issue anywhere. Think it may be a bad unit and hardware releated. But thanks for nothing.
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There are TONS of people complaining about the same thing, I was not being an "ahole". You are complaining about a camera that's really good, if it's defect then get it replaced, you haven't given us ANY pictures nor any description on what's wrong until now. I was just making a statement on that a lot of people have complained only because lack of skills on adjusting the camera and on the overall quality. Check this link out (took me one minute to search for this!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2438592&highlight=share+your+best
You have a lot of decent pictures there. Some are better than others because some people know how to take pictures and how to get them to have decent quality with and without lightning. You're the being rude to me now. You can also find several solutions and explanations on how the camera works.

I just ran across the street to the Verizon store and the guys there looked at it and after 5 minutes said it's a hardware issue. Unfortunately they couldn't swap it out there because of my corporate plan so I am on the phone with Verizon and they are going to send me another one.
If the N3 needs more light than a brightly lit office or full sunlight outdoors to take a picture that is in focus then I am going back to my N2. We'll see what the new one does when it gets here.
Just for fun I installed Focus and tried that, but every time I try to take a picture with it I get an "unfortunately focus has stopped" error.

saznpins said:
I just ran across the street to the Verizon store and the guys there looked at it and after 5 minutes said it's a hardware issue. Unfortunately they couldn't swap it out there because of my corporate plan so I am on the phone with Verizon and they are going to send me another one.
If the N3 needs more light than a brightly lit office or full sunlight outdoors to take a picture that is in focus then I am going back to my N2. We'll see what the new one does when it gets here.
Just for fun I installed Focus and tried that, but every time I try to take a picture with it I get an "unfortunately focus has stopped" error.
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Sorry to hear that the phone was defect. Hopefully you'll be happy with the replacement they'll send.
About the Focal app, the Focal does not support the Note 3 camera yet. It'll be added in a near future.

The Moto G camera: noise reduction is the key

Here are some details I uncovered in regards to the camera of Moto G:
Camera specification:
- 5mpxl
- f/2.4
- 4mm focal length.
Most definitely a small sensor, (< 1/3.2' ), likely 1/4'. Also very likely won't have BSI for better low light performance.
Meanwhile there's no good teardown (yet) to find out the make of the camera module, by going through the spec sheets of many other phones, the sensor is likely to be same one you find in Lumia 625.
Most of you will probably agree that Moto G doesn't take good photos. Meanwhile the optic is the best it should be well capable of better.
Issue at the moment is that there's TOO MUCH noise reduction, which can cause a very 'water-paint' feel to the pictures, and destroying any form of sharpness.
From my test with stock and many other camera apps (Lenovo, focal, a better cam, etc etc), while they help with the compression, focus, white-balance and metering etc. and can help the quality of the photos. They don't fix the sharpness/noise reduction issue with the camera. It seems like it's been hard-coded into the software for the camera.
Are there anyone out there who will be able to fix this?

The Motorola camera app was updated today, has this improved the noise reduction?
Nuthin' but a 'Moto G' thang

cption said:
Are there anyone out there who will be able to fix this?
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Google seems to be working on a completely overhauled Hardware Abstraction Layer for the cameras that will allow apps to tap more directly into the camera pipelines. They'll be able, for instance, to get RAW captures and and do their own custom demoisacing/debayering and the whole post- pipeline. That would probably fix any heavy-handed processing done by any of the OEMs.

AluKed said:
Google seems to be working on a completely overhauled Hardware Abstraction Layer for the cameras that will allow apps to tap more directly into the camera pipelines. They'll be able, for instance, to get RAW captures and and do their own custom demoisacing/debayering and the whole post- pipeline. That would probably fix any heavy-handed processing done by any of the OEMs.
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RAW just gives an uncompressed image, there's no real guarantee that no processing takes place..
I'm going to report my findings on the new moto camera update. From the look of it it's just a routine, general update that shouldn't make much difference.

bien irleeno
cption said:
RAW just gives an uncompressed image, there's no real guarantee that no processing takes place..
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Not really. RAW is much more than an uncompressed image, it's as close to the raw, unprocessed sensor output as possible. No demosaicing, no tone mapping/gamma, no conversion from (typically) 12 bits per pixel to 8 bits, no processing and no lossy compression. If any of this is done, then it isn't RAW.

For you which camera app is the best ?

el-marino said:
For you which camera app is the best ?
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camera awesome is amazing and vignette its very good try with this app's u can get a better pic from stock cam

I think the original Android app takes better photos
The only problem with this app is the HDR
I installed the original app 4.2, 4.3 and 4.4, none of them has the HDR
Any way to solve this?

I've just installed snap camera, I have to say it is streets ahead of stock moto cam.
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I wasn't able to post before/after comparison with the stock camera app as it updated itself. So far I'm not seeing any different image wise between the update.
I've done some comparison shots in between the cameras, and added in my Ativ S (GS3 WP8 alter-ego) as a bonus.
Snap Camera focus very well, and I was able to take good shots with my shaky hands. However, the blurring issue is very apparent with all camera apps..
N.B. The Focal photo was slightly blurred due to my shaky hands, sorry!

Just to clear it, you're talking about this paid app ?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marginz.snap&hl=en

SlashGear have posted an article on the Camera software update released by Motorola.
This update does a tiny bit to improve all areas of shooting with manual controls, and shows sign that Motorola isn’t going to let this device fall by the wayside at all, whatsoever.
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lost101 said:
SlashGear have posted an article on the Camera software update released by Motorola.
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I dunno Slashgear articles seems iffy...
Moto G ALREADY had the Exposure/Focal Ring tbh, seems they didnt notice or use it in their original review. This exposure/focus ring is the basis of their camera comparison it seems.

I did not find options to manual focus and exposure.

Psychoferno said:
I did not find options to manual focus and exposure.
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It's just the ring that you can drag around the screen to choose the point of focus and exposure. I'm sure that we (at least I did!) had this from the beginning on Moto G (maybe the X didn't and that's where the stories are coming from?) and the recent update was basically bug fixes for us.

Yes, the G Moto already had this function. Thanks for the clarification.

Kameo said:
Just to clear it, you're talking about this paid app ?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.marginz.snap&hl=en
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Yes, I just used the trial for the comparison.
Note that XDA compresses the image so it's very hard to tell from the photos I posted.
But the Moto-G is absolutely no match for the camera on my Ativ-S/GS3. Not sure if it will fair better if the noise reduction issues been fixed.
But Snap Camera seem to do the best job out of the apps I've tried, for my shaky hand of course. Not compared the HDR mode yet but stock camera do that quite well.

any comparison between s3?^

t-bon3 said:
The Motorola camera app was updated today, has this improved the noise reduction?
Nuthin' but a 'Moto G' thang
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Camera apps rarely make any significant difference in quality, unless they start passing different parameters/settings to the camera HAL.
Usually, if you see major changes in camera performance, it's HAL changes, which require a system firmware update.

Entropy512 said:
Usually, if you see major changes in camera performance, it's HAL changes, which require a system firmware update.
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I'm guessing that we'll get the Camera HAL v3 with Kit Kat 4.5. I mean, that's the kind of feature that would justify a version bump. Hopefully the hardware will be compliant enough that it won't have to run in the Limited Semantics mode.

Is it just my Z2 or is camera focus a problem.

I love the camera on the Z2... when it focuses properly.
I've never had such a bad phone at focussing!
I also get the odd shot that's over processed into a mush but that's another story and something all mobile cameras can do on occasions.
Went to my eldest's first nativity play today and tried to film it, end result the back of people's heads in front of us were in focus but the kids on stage?
Nah they were a blurry mess.
It's not just the constant focus seeking for no reason in videos that annoys me either.
With stills, generally it's 50/50 if I get a focussed shot or not.
When I do the results are fantastic (as long as you use manual white balance)
Half the time the camera doesn't focus properly with touch focus or doesn't focus where you want it.
If I just try infinity focus and let the camera sort itself out I get a few pictures that the camera focuses on nothing, the entire shot is out of focus.
Never had these problems with the M8, Note2, GS2 that preceded my Z2 so I don't think it's me.
I know that the Z2 has focus problems in less than brilliant light which doesn't help (unlike the M8) but it's making my mobile photography pretty hit and miss.
Unfortunately the shot often looks fine on the phone but when viewed on a large PC monitor it's obvious the shot is useless.
It's seriously making me consider leaving the Sony stable in the next generation next year which would be a real shame because the phone itself is the best Android out there for me at the moment.
Sony really have to sort out their camera processing, if Apple can do it with a Sony lens there should be no excuse for Sony.
Either it's just a Sony thing or my phone is faulty but like I said some of the pictures I take have stellar focus and colour balance but on the whole... not.
Sorry just needed to vent some frustration!

First of all this must be moved to Q & A threat,second - After the 4.4.4 update the Superior auto mode is even crappier then 4.4.2,so if you make your photos that way...its normal.Try playing with the Manual mode with 20mpxls and if you want a full focused picture - go with Multifocus mode and Multi metering,and ofcourse this is just the beginning.If you still experience those kind of focus problems see if ur camera glass antireflection coating is not removed. / scratched/ (the glass itself is not scratched.) If so - give it to sony centre for repair. You can check when putting the glass on bright light.

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First of all this must be moved to Q & A threat,second - After the 4.4.4 update the Superior auto mode is even crappier then 4.4.2,so if you make your photos that way...its normal.Try playing with the Manual mode with 20mpxls and if you want a full focused picture - go with Multifocus mode and Multi metering,and ofcourse this is just the beginning.If you still experience those kind of focus problems see if ur camera glass antireflection coating is not removed. / scratched/ (the glass itself is not scratched.) If so - give it to sony centre for repair. You can check when putting the glass on bright light.
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Thanks, for the advice.
I must admit I have started using Manual mode more often than Auto now because under artificial light all the auto shots turn out orange and over processed.
I'll try Multifocus and metering now.

kibbster said:
Thanks, for the advice.
I must admit I have started using Manual mode more often than Auto now because under artificial light all the auto shots turn out orange and over processed.
I'll try Multifocus and metering now.
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Try to configure the focus tô touch or center,may solve you problems .

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Try to configure the focus tô touch or center,may solve you problems .
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No, touch focus is ropy as hell on this phone, often it won't actually focus where I want it to, and if it does often it'll focus on a pin point area and blur everything else.

kibbster said:
I love the camera on the Z2... when it focuses properly.
I've never had such a bad phone at focussing!
I also get the odd shot that's over processed into a mush but that's another story and something all mobile cameras can do on occasions.
Went to my eldest's first nativity play today and tried to film it, end result the back of people's heads in front of us were in focus but the kids on stage?
Nah they were a blurry mess.
It's not just the constant focus seeking for no reason in videos that annoys me either.
With stills, generally it's 50/50 if I get a focussed shot or not.
When I do the results are fantastic (as long as you use manual white balance)
Half the time the camera doesn't focus properly with touch focus or doesn't focus where you want it.
If I just try infinity focus and let the camera sort itself out I get a few pictures that the camera focuses on nothing, the entire shot is out of focus.
Never had these problems with the M8, Note2, GS2 that preceded my Z2 so I don't think it's me.
I know that the Z2 has focus problems in less than brilliant light which doesn't help (unlike the M8) but it's making my mobile photography pretty hit and miss.
Unfortunately the shot often looks fine on the phone but when viewed on a large PC monitor it's obvious the shot is useless.
It's seriously making me consider leaving the Sony stable in the next generation next year which would be a real shame because the phone itself is the best Android out there for me at the moment.
Sony really have to sort out their camera processing, if Apple can do it with a Sony lens there should be no excuse for Sony.
Either it's just a Sony thing or my phone is faulty but like I said some of the pictures I take have stellar focus and colour balance but on the whole... not.
Sorry just needed to vent some frustration!
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I have the same issue. Touch focus for video is useless and it takes forever to track into focus even when looking at sharp edges and keeping still. Google Camera does MUCH better but no 4K video or 60 fps.

sam_conrad said:
I have the same issue. Touch focus for video is useless and it takes forever to track into focus even when looking at sharp edges and keeping still. Google Camera does MUCH better but no 4K video or 60 fps.
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I may try a different camera then.
I don't use 4k or 60fps usually so probably no loss there.
Thanks.

sam_conrad said:
I have the same issue. Touch focus for video is useless and it takes forever to track into focus even when looking at sharp edges and keeping still. Google Camera does MUCH better but no 4K video or 60 fps.
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Thanks for the tip!
Been playing with Google camera today and I've got to say it's far more accurate for focus than the stock app!
HDR in Google camera works better than stock as well, although it's slow.
Shame I can't override the default camera button behaviour because the hardware button is a handy way to get into the camera quickly.

kibbster said:
Thanks for the tip!
Been playing with Google camera today and I've got to say it's far more accurate for focus than the stock app!
HDR in Google camera works better than stock as well, although it's slow.
Shame I can't override the default camera button behaviour because the hardware button is a handy way to get into the camera quickly.
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HDR in Google Camera used to be exclusive to Nexus devices but Google opened it up in the last few updates. It also does HDR at 20.7 MP but Google Camera lacks extended options like ISO speed control and such.
I switch between manual mode in the Sony app and Google Camera depending on the situation. For videos, the Google Camera app definitely wins in focus speed and accuracy. The software developers and engineers at Sony really need to get on the same page!

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HDR in Google Camera used to be exclusive to Nexus devices but Google opened it up in the last few updates. It also does HDR at 20.7 MP but Google Camera lacks extended options like ISO speed control and such.
I switch between manual mode in the Sony app and Google Camera depending on the situation. For videos, the Google Camera app definitely wins in focus speed and accuracy. The software developers and engineers at Sony really need to get on the same page!
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The only shame with Google cam video is it doesn't have the steady shot that Sony camera does.
I guess the lack of constant focus shifting makes up for that though.
Oh and there's no doubt Sony's software engineers are the cause of most of the camera issues and need to sort it out!

Mate 8 camera performance on nougat?

Hello everyone, I'm a hairs breadth from ordering a mate 8 as my Christmas present to myself but I have a question before I do.
Having (possibly) read all the reviews there are for this phone I can see people often grumbling about the camera quality. Now I'm sure that as it is it'll be at least as good as the one on my LG G PRO 2, but my query is this. Now that several people have nougat installed, is the camera better than it was on marshmallow? Would it be possible for people to try replicating pics from before the update but on nougat now to post their thoughts?
I'm likely to order one tonight either way, but I'm sure this would be of interest to buyers who have put it off until now.

Bearded_1 said:
Hello everyone, I'm a hairs breadth from ordering a mate 8 as my Christmas present to myself but I have a question before I do.
Having (possibly) read all the reviews there are for this phone I can see people often grumbling about the camera quality. Now I'm sure that as it is it'll be at least as good as the one on my LG G PRO 2, but my query is this. Now that several people have nougat installed, is the camera better than it was on marshmallow? Would it be possible for people to try replicating pics from before the update but on nougat now to post their thoughts?
I'm likely to order one tonight either way, but I'm sure this would be of interest to buyers who have put it off until now.
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I've been taking photos since I was a kid in the 60's. In the early 80's, I was into film SLR's. In the early 2000's, I switched to dSLR.
I'm kind of picky. Using the default camera app, it's "ok", but if you switch to Camera FV-5, you'll have a lot more control over the
sensitivity of the camera sensor.
Under normal lighting conditions, it's not a bad camera, but you have to take into consideration, the sensor is still tens of times
SMALLER than even a APS-C camera sensor, as are all phone sensors.
signal to noise ratio, crosstalk, it's just hard to get around, when you pack megapixels worth of sensors, on such a small substrate.

Great suggestion on the camera app - I think I've seen it suggested elsewhere too. I was really wondering if anyone who has updated their phone to 7 on the betas had noticed an improvement in the camera app, but as it should be with me in about ten days and the official update should be fairly close I'll be able to make comparisons myself!

Bearded_1 said:
Great suggestion on the camera app - I think I've seen it suggested elsewhere too. I was really wondering if anyone who has updated their phone to 7 on the betas had noticed an improvement in the camera app, but as it should be with me in about ten days and the official update should be fairly close I'll be able to make comparisons myself!
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Sort of in the same spot you were. Looking at this phone and wondering if the camera performance has improved with the update to 7 and EMUI 5.0. Did you get the phone or find out anything?

uno3122 said:
Sort of in the same spot you were. Looking at this phone and wondering if the camera performance has improved with the update to 7 and EMUI 5.0. Did you get the phone or find out anything?
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I've got it, and the camera is indeed better than on my previous LG G PRO 2. I just did a shoot-out with a Pixel this morning looking through the office window and I have to say that there wasn't a huge amount of difference from what i could see on screen.. Hopefully I have managed to upload a stock Mate 8 camera shot and the same taken with the Pixel. There is more detail in the Pixel shot, but not enough to not be happy with the Mate. As to what will happen with the camera capabilities once on Nougat, I have no idea, but I'm happy with the results i'm getting at the moment! The Pixel shot is darker, but that maybe due to it having hdr+ on and the light balance difference from aiming higher into the sky.

Bearded_1 said:
I've got it, and the camera is indeed better than on my previous LG G PRO 2. I just did a shoot-out with a Pixel this morning looking through the office window and I have to say that there wasn't a huge amount of difference from what i could see on screen.. Hopefully I have managed to upload a stock Mate 8 camera shot and the same taken with the Pixel. There is more detail in the Pixel shot, but not enough to not be happy with the Mate. As to what will happen with the camera capabilities once on Nougat, I have no idea, but I'm happy with the results i'm getting at the moment! The Pixel shot is darker, but that maybe due to it having hdr+ on and the light balance difference from aiming higher into the sky.
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Thanks for the comparison! That's very encouraging. I'll be looking forward to any updates with the camera software with the upgrade to EMUI 5.0 and Nougat.

Maybe next update (EMUI 5.0 and Nougat) bring to us some improvements from Mate 9 camera.
"Aside from the latest security patch, the update also includes several other changes, including 10x digital zoom option in the camera as well as some performance related improvements."
http://www.gsmarena.com/december_security_update_hitting_huawei_mate_9-news-22331.php

With latest Nougat (I'm not sure whether it was there before or not), it allows to save raw pictures (in pro mode).

I know camera is 1000% much better than on emui 4.1 on 4.0 is good but on Nougat is really good
Sended from my N3 AryaMod S7 NoteUX LSS 3.6 UX