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Zenfone 2 Camera vs Gs6

I took some comparison photos between the Zen 2 and the Edge. All shot in auto mode
https://plus.google.com/+PatrickHill/posts/TPyACy8dr9b

Hi Pat,
Thanks for the comparison. I was dreading moving from my trustworthy Z3 Compact to the Asus Zenfone 2.
Now, not so much! Your shootout really helped! I'll miss the waterproofing though..

This was completely against my expectations. Up against the best smartphone camera, it seems the ZenFone 2 stands up pretty well in good light. Maybe I'm spoiled by my DSLR. Are you able to take any shots in low light?

graffixnyc said:
I took some comparison photos between the Zen 2 and the Edge. All shot in auto mode
https://plus.google.com/+PatrickHill/posts/TPyACy8dr9b
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Goodness, how do those cars get out of their parking spot. They are so darn close bumper to bumper on the street it is no way for them to get out
s6 camera is clearly the winner. Zenfone camera looks dull with noise

S6 camera is much better, even with firmware update. ZenFone still oversaturates the images, and zoom images still suck. But that's ok.

Great job on doing the comparison, would love to see similar on low light condition.

Yeah, unfortunately Zen camera seems to wash out red/brown colours while over-saturating greens. Also has a tendancy to over-expose shots. But frankly comparing the camera on a sub $200 to $300 phone with something that costs about three times that is a bit daft. The Zen camera is not brilliant but is more than good enough for a phone camera in a budget phone.
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(That's not a dig at the OP, by the way. It's a good yardstick to get a real appreciation of the strengths and limitations of our phone's shooter. Just not anything to be bothered about that it falls short in comparison.)

Do you think any 3rd party camera apps will help? Like camera+

The camera is one of the things that I feel like has improved since release. It's really a solid shooter for the money and package you get. Generally Samsung and other manufacturers cripple cheaper offerings with something really sub par. The OPO was another device that ended up taking really nice pictures as it matured. The ColorOS camera coupled with the device was a boon. The stock Asus camera app is so far the best experience I've had in the last few years with unlocked devices (Nexus/OPO).

the camera app is super buggy I don't know if is problem with my device or with all but anyway its a garbage

Camera is quite capable, the MIUI camera is the weak link.

Here's some shots taken with a 3rd party app called Snap Camera. Enjoy!

Hmm limited file size attachments. Here are links to the originals!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx_9X4Ugo_yaUWZvek1BM1R0TUU/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx_9X4Ugo_yaMkx3VnFDYkoyYXM/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx_9X4Ugo_yaTGgxTVU4QXVGWjA/view?usp=drivesdk

I put Google camera and open camera on mine and while they seem better both are somewhat slow to auto focus and snap oic. For a camera on phone to me that quick snap is important. May try the one you mentioned to see if better.
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SWBgHz said:
I put Google camera and open camera on mine and while they seem better both are somewhat slow to auto focus and snap oic. For a camera on phone to me that quick snap is important. May try the one you mentioned to see if better.
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It has zero shutter lag, instant photos, really recommend it. Let me know if you want my settings! I'm not 100% sure but It may be a paid app, i think i'd purchased it sometime in the past.
Edit - Tried Open Camera - not very good output, couldn't get Google Camera to work for some reason.. Snap Camera is definitely the best I've seen so far.

Paulrgod,
Thank you so much for this post. What a difference snap makes. No focus breathing and stabilization built in. Huge win as the camera is so important to me as it is my daily picture taker for my family and the biggest concern for this phone...but not any more.
Thanks again!

No problem, happy to help.
I took some photos of my son playing in the living room the other day and it was awful, unacceptable quality really.
So I decided to see if any other apps would make a difference. The quality of the photos I posted above were better quality than comparison shots I took on my Note 5!
Still struggling in low light a bit though, but I've found keeping the ISO in check, set at 400 / 800 the shots are acceptable, but can be difficult getting it to take the shot.

Those shots are extremely noisy, lacking detail and soft ... they just feature heavy post processing (by the app) to make it more attractive to the average punter - saturation, contrast and smoothing. The camera absolutely isn't capable. In fact, many phones of similar price have better selfie sensors than this phone does main camera ...

Well someone's a bit grumpy. Did you click the links to see the full versions? The attachments in the first post are poor due to size rrestrictions. I'm quite happy with them actually.
They came out better than compatible shots taken at the same time on my Note 5.

Kinda hilarious that an app can do a better job than the phone manufacturer's own software.

I tried Snap camera too, but A Better Camera does better in terms of instant focus, or just it seemed to me
3rd party cams also do better in WB and details.

The camera is absolutely horrendous.
I felt like I went back in time to 2009
I've been using the Samsung Note since it first launched.
The note 5 camera is excellent
The mi mix is profusely bad

CorruptedSanity said:
The camera is absolutely horrendous.
I felt like I went back in time to 2009
I've been using the Samsung Note since it first launched.
The note 5 camera is excellent
The mi mix is profusely bad
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It's a matter of perspective. I too ha a note 5 and yes, it's one of the best phone camera's, as well documented through the year the note 5 has been on the market. So, by that logic, nearly every other phone camera will be disappointing.
However, from my unscientific observation of the note 5, Mi Max (not Mi Mix) and Lenovo Phab 2 Pro, the Mix is better than the Max or Phab 2 Pro. Focus and processing is faster and moving targets can be captured with some resemblance to the image photographed.
Could be the SOC (Max and P2P are SD 652 while Mix is SD 821).
I am enjoying the phone, even though the camera is less than really good. I'm willing to trade the 6.4 inch screen and condensed body for the lesser camera.
Just one man's perspective.

audscott said:
It's a matter of perspective. I too ha a note 5 and yes, it's one of the best phone camera's, as well documented through the year the note 5 has been on the market. So, by that logic, nearly every other phone camera will be disappointing.
However, from my unscientific observation of the note 5, Mi Max (not Mi Mix) and Lenovo Phab 2 Pro, the Mix is better than the Max or Phab 2 Pro. Focus and processing is faster and moving targets can be captured with some resemblance to the image photographed.
Could be the SOC (Max and P2P are SD 652 while Mix is SD 821).
I am enjoying the phone, even though the camera is less than really good. I'm willing to trade the 6.4 inch screen and condensed body for the lesser camera.
Just one man's perspective.
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Couldn't agree more on the bolded part as an owner of the Note 5 and returned the Phab 2 Pro after less than a week of ownership. Phab 2 Pro could of been a nice phone if they didn't cut corners in certain areas. Then again its all subjective to ones opinion.
Regarding the camera, wished it was as good as Samsung phones but I've used the 6.4" screen more than I've taken pictures so I'm ok with the traded of.

Do you know if this 3rd parry camera is actually capturing a photo and processing it? Or just basically screenshoting the image on the screen like SnapChat does...
Also does it have HDR?

VeryCoolAlan said:
Do you know if this 3rd parry camera is actually capturing a photo and processing it? Or just basically screenshoting the image on the screen like SnapChat does...
Also does it have HDR?
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Definitely Capturing and processing the image. Yes it does HDR - of which you can customise a hell of a lot - exposure values, delays between shots etc..
I've never seen a camera app with as many settings as this actually.

I do photography as a serious hobby.
Mix camera has its strength and weakness. (Native app)
The colour balance is quite accurate most of the time but it definitely love to over saturate.
The auto focus is snappy enough.
The auto exposure is surprisingly good as well.
The low light is terrible but ALL phone sucks at it.
HDR works and they keep the effect to the lower end which I like. While pixel has super good HDR results, sometimes the effect is way over used.
I really like the sharpening level they choose. It feel just right (More on the soft side)
Overall I would say the biggest flaw is that it's unreliable. Occasionally the colours are just way over saturated, but hey that's why I have a camera

To anyone that is rooted and has enabled the Camera2 API (adding persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1 to build.prop), give ProShot by Rise Up Games a try. Manual Camera by Geeky Devs Studio doesn't work when I mess with the shutter speed or ISO setting but ProShot does. Now both of these are paid but I'm sure you have Play Reward credit spare

I waited for MIUI 9 to see if it would bring an improvement in the camera application but now that I have it, I don't see any improvement. So I decided for now to use Snap Camera. Can someone tell me what would be the best settings to use Snap Camera in the MIX?

Is the Snap Camera app, better then the Google Camera app downloaded from the Oneplus 5 thread?

op5 Camera. is it the product or the consumer?

Most of us have had this device for a couple weeks now to play with the camera.
In your personal experience do you think it's the cameras fault/limitations or the user not knowing what they're doing?
I'm far from an expert but the more I use pro mode the better things are coming out for me personally.

It's always better to know what you're doing, But a great camera takes good pictures without being expert...
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I personally think the camera isnt as bad as people are saying it is. With more software improvements, specially in the portrait mode, it would be better than what it already is.
PS : The pro mode is definitely good, gives us more power to get the clicks right.

omrij said:
It's always better to know what you're doing, But a great camera takes good pictures without being expert...
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This is incorrect. Even the worlds best camera is useless in the hands of amateur.

I think the camera is definitely above average. I can't say if it's better or worse than other flagships because I have no current ('16-'17) ones on hand to compare against, but the only thing I can complain about is the lack of OIS. Even then, the EIS does a decent job considering I've got pretty shakey hands.

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This is incorrect. Even the worlds best camera is useless in the hands of amateur.
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On a phone you don't want to be messing around with pro settings, you want a good point and shoot quick experience. It's not a DSLR. The OP5 doesn't give good point and shoot results.

I'm come from an LG G4 which while admittedly 2 years old had a decent camera. I'm not an expert but I think the point and click experience on the OnePlus 5 is a step up, I'm pleased with it.

B3501 said:
On a phone you don't want to be messing around with pro settings, you want a good point and shoot quick experience. It's not a DSLR. The OP5 doesn't give good point and shoot results.
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Allow me to disagree
These are point and shoot pics with a lot of xda compression on upload ?

B3501 said:
On a phone you don't want to be messing around with pro settings, you want a good point and shoot quick experience. It's not a DSLR. The OP5 doesn't give good point and shoot results.
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It all depends on what you're after. If it's the candid snaps then the quality doesn't really matter. It's all about the moment, not the pixels.
If you want somewhat good point & shoot experience then you'll get a decent point & shoot camera.
If you want to do some more serious photography then you'll get a DSLR.
OP5 is good enough. It's a phone after all, and yet better than some P%S cameras
Personally I'd rather use pro mode if I'd shoot anything else than a candid snaps where the quality is not that important.
Now don't get me wrong, I understand the dissapointment of the OP5 camera not being the miracle that was promised, but comeon, it's a phone.

The OP5 camera isn't that bad, just the low light is not as good as Samsung S7/S8/Pixel etc...
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FIRST OnePlus 5T camera review by heise.de

https://m.heise.de/ct/artikel/OnePlus-5T-Keine-Zoom-Kamera-mehr-3887487.html
Heise.de is one very serious german tech site and they say that since other sites already broke the NDA they dont feel obliged to hold information back.
To make it short: camera does not get better, low light performance gets even worse.
Long version: The camera setup (still WITHOUT OIS!) will be 16+20 mp again BUT the 20 mp sensor this time won't work as telephoto lens. Also aperture changes from f/2.6 to also f/1.7 like the 16 mp main snapper. Pixel size of the 20 mp sensor stays at 1.0 um. This sensor will, despite its crazily small pixel size, automatically work as low light shooter when light levels drop below 3.5 lux, making pictures look even worse than with the 16 mp sensor.
The Software does NOT use both sensors to combine the picture information like it is the case for other phones. Thus, picture quality does not seem to improve compared to the OP 5.
My comment: This really doesnt seem to make any sense. Why not put in a sensor with bigger pixels if you want a lowlight specific unit? Why take one with even smaller pixels? Wtf!? Did they have too many of those crappy 20mp sensor left over? Or why not at least use both sensors to combine the two die pics? Or why not just use the fabulous sensor that the s8/pixel2 uses and put an OIS in it? This is so stupid oneplus, i just dont get it..
Furthermore: Usb will again be 2.0.
2015 all over again..
Also, unlike the introductionary text of this forum suggests, battery will be the same as the OP5, 3300 mah. Thus, endurance will be lower compared to the 5.
And the device will also feature face recognition to unlock.
What do you think?

This is kinda disappointing. I was kinda missing my OnePlus 5 going to the pixel 2xl because I really loved the feel and everything on the o5. I was also thinking I should have waited on the 5t and hope they made some small improvements to the camera. This seems like a bit if a downgrade. Battery life will still be really good but slightly worse. I don't see why they couldn't have fitted in a slightly larger battery

Finally get to review it
Finally got my new glasses and can check all of the new great features With these phones. It has been a while since I bought a smart phoneBut the one plus is something that I there are just way too expensive.

I wonder if it possible cross-device ROMs between OnePlus 5 & 5T.

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I wonder if it possible cross-device ROMs between OnePlus 5 & 5T.
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I think it will be possible. Since the changes are similar like 3 and 3t. Lets see

yeah, for me the missing ois is a deal breaker. I planned to upgrade from my op3t but now i will keep it. Hopefully they will learn from it and add a camera with ois for the 6

GSMArena have some shots in their hands-on here.
If you zoom in and look at what it's done to the foliage in the first 2 shots you might wish you hadn't. This would be considered poor in a low-light shot, never mind outdoor daylight. I just hope that this is pre-pre-production software that they stupidly gave to a reviewer and not what they are planning on selling.

Maybe anybody has a acutal review of the camera of the Oppo R11s?
It should have the same camera configuration and software "magic".
Results should be an indication for the possible camera performance of the OP5T.
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GSMArena have some shots in their hands-on here.
If you zoom in and look at what it's done to the foliage in the first 2 shots you might wish you hadn't. This would be considered poor in a low-light shot, never mind outdoor daylight. I just hope that this is pre-pre-production software that they stupidly gave to a reviewer and not what they are planning on selling.
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Interesting. GSMarena comments on the lowlight pictures:
"We also went out for some night shots around the usual locations. We won't be passing any verdicts just yet, but the results look promising."

When they said the second camera would have f1.7 aperture (without probably mentioning the pixel size) I thought they would do something special to combine the result of both cameras and create nice pictures. I didn't expect that they only would use one of them....
OnePlus clearly doesn't know much about software photography, but they know a lot about marketing...

Furthermore: Usb will again be 2.0.
2015 all over again..
Seriously brah?

Also, unlike the introductionary text of this forum suggests, battery will be the same as the OP5, 3300 mah. Thus, endurance will be lower compared to the 5.
And the device will also feature face recognition to unlock.
What do you think?
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Well, the screen says 6.0 VS 5.5 But it's taller but thinner side to side. The total screen area should be the same or very close. I doubt enough to affect battery in any significant way. It's also a newer panel, so possibly more efficient than the old 5.5 which was a carryover from the previous OP.

The screen is not narrower but a lot longer so the real estate is quite bigger.
Its 136x68mm vs 122x68mm.

A few sites have mentioned the camera is a bit lackluster, but until we can get a good comparison between the 5 and 5T I'm not sure how to take these comments.
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Camera will be more powerfull if you install Google camera.

Martin.077 said:
Camera will be more powerfull if you install Google camera.
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i feel so too, on the op5 the difference is huge in low light conditions with the hdr+

Unfortunately there isnt a port that works properly. Either no touch to focus or other drawbacks

Lasersdude said:
Unfortunately there isnt a port that works properly. Either no touch to focus or other drawbacks
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And the microdots. It was too much of a hack for something I need to be reliable at least IMO.
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https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ding-combination-of-specs-design-and-price/2/
https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5t-review-1687p8.php
mario toys on arstech and low light comparison on gsm
5t looks better than 5 there

FridrufHau said:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ding-combination-of-specs-design-and-price/2/
https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5t-review-1687p8.php
mario toys on arstech and low light comparison on gsm
5t looks better than 5 there
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It is still producing oil paintings in daylight though.
Mind boggling that this is still not fixed! The sensor is capable to produce better photos but the processing...
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/op5T-2.jpg
This issue is soo old by now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn9Lj6F6EM
Someone needs to tell OnePlus that a little noise doesn't hurt as long as the photos come out sharp!

AcmE85 said:
This issue is soo old by now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn9Lj6F6EM
Someone needs to tell OnePlus that a little noise doesn't hurt as long as the photos come out sharp!
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Ok so moving is never sharp, although with other camera apps?

OnePlus 8T camera thread, Post pictures taken with your OnePlus 8T!

I'll start us off!

My clicks
Update : it seems the image is broken, I will try from pc.
Update - Images reuploaded.

Took at tmo the day I bought it.

Upload didn't work.

Don't bother with the stock cam. Use GCam Mods.
Why?
GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v2.1_Wichaya_V2.7.3 - normal vs OP8T stock (Oxygen OS 11.0.1.2.KB05BA
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Am3yOPAn8l_0iK8P6L0P23dryXWVCA?e=KpfoBn
PS: GCam 7.4 also works, but missed HDR+ so far.
Aux cams (wide, macro) don't work

DailyLama72 said:
Don't bother with the stock cam. Use GCam Mods.
Why?
GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v2.1_Wichaya_V2.7.3 - normal vs OP8T stock (Oxygen OS 11.0.1.2.KB05BA
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Am3yOPAn8l_0iK8P...XWVCA?e=u5cD9C
PS: GCam 7.4 also works, but missed HDR+ so far.
Aux cams (wide, macro) don't work
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The link doesn't work.

olivercervera said:
The link doesn't work.
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Sorry, please try https://1drv.ms/u/s!Am3yOPAn8l_0iK8P6L0P23dryXWVCA?e=KpfoBn

DailyLama72 said:
Sorry, please try https://1drv.ms/u/s!Am3yOPAn8l_0iK8P6L0P23dryXWVCA?e=KpfoBn
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Thanks for the comparisons! I'm hoping to be comparing my Pixel 4 and 8T side by side with Gcam here in the next week.
Photos are a huge thing for me as well so this will be my primary driver towards OnePlus or moving to the Pixel 5.

pjd2011 said:
Thanks for the comparisons! I'm hoping to be comparing my Pixel 4 and 8T side by side with Gcam here in the next week.
Photos are a huge thing for me as well so this will be my primary driver towards OnePlus or moving to the Pixel 5.
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Same for me. I really enjoy the Photos of my OP3 with Gcam 7.2 very much, everyone is astonished about the quality a 4 year old 450€ phone can achieve.
It's just too slow, takes 30 seconds after 2 shots to process
So far, I had no time to test the OP8T, but tomorrow I hope my wife and me can make comparison shots with OP3 and OP8T, both with GCam. The macros that you can achieve with of the OP3 and GCam are really amazing, you can see single hairs on bumblebees.
Why did I not choose a Pixel 5?
1. You can't buy it officially in Austria and they cancel illegally purchases from Austria in the German shop
2. Google support is the worst of the worst, while OnePlus has fantastic support, easy to reach.
3. You get so much more raw power in the OP8T than in the Pixel 5. While the Pixel 5 is good for anything it does today, it's CPU is 1/2 to 1/3 of the power of the 865, so in ~2 years it will already have problems with some software
That said, the pixel camera software is unbeaten and If there would not be Gcam mod, I had a Pixel.

DailyLama72 said:
Don't bother with the stock cam. Use GCam Mods.
Why?
GCam_7.3.018_Urnyx05-v2.1_Wichaya_V2.7.3 - normal vs OP8T stock (Oxygen OS 11.0.1.2.KB05BA
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Am3yOPAn8l_0iK8P6L0P23dryXWVCA?e=KpfoBn
PS: GCam 7.4 also works, but missed HDR+ so far.
Aux cams (wide, macro) don't work
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Hey
Can you please share the gcam link

My Jeep in the snow

Anybody managed to get a good enough picture with the macro lens? For me the macro camera is really poor. I mean, like 2005 used to have better camera than this, the photos are very unclear and grainy every single time, pretty useless. The main camera is good enough and the Ultrawide is ok, usable. But the other 2 are really a waste of space. imo.

Lobsters from Red Lobster with stock cam
https://imgur.com/a/W1RbIYr
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Last night there were clear skies for 2hrs, so I used that opportunity to test out the astrophotography feature on Google Camera. Both photos were taken from the same position.
1st photo - main lens
2nd photo - wide angle lens.

Tefzors said:
Last night there were clear skies for 2hrs, so I used that opportunity to test out the astrophotography feature on Google Camera. Both photos were taken from the same position.
1st photo - main lens
2nd photo - wide angle lens.
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Can you send me the link to this google camera app used on 8T?

schand said:
Can you send me the link to this google camera app used on 8T?
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https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/changelog1451/

How is the camera on this phone? I really want to buy one, but i'm not that convinced about the camera, from what i've seen in the reviews. Currently i'm using a Huawei Mate 20 Pro. Can anyone tell me how this two phones compare in camera quality?

i.adrian said:
How is the camera on this phone? I really want to buy one, but i'm not that convinced about the camera, from what i've seen in the reviews. Currently i'm using a Huawei Mate 20 Pro. Can anyone tell me how this two phones compare in camera quality?
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Don't buy this phone for camera. It's not worth it. Better get OP 8 Pro which has IMX 689 sensor.

i.adrian said:
How is the camera on this phone? I really want to buy one, but i'm not that convinced about the camera, from what i've seen in the reviews. Currently i'm using a Huawei Mate 20 Pro. Can anyone tell me how this two phones compare in camera quality?
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Vishurules28 said:
Don't buy this phone for camera. It's not worth it. Better get OP 8 Pro which has IMX 689 sensor.
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Camera gets far better with Gcam.

I'm seing that it uses the same camera sensors as the 7! Is this true?! How come they don't update the sensors?