Hi All,
Ive been trying to read up as much as I can on all things Android head unit and have somehow got lost along the way - I've been reading up for about 3 weeks and now have more questions than when I started!
I want to fit a stereo for my wife which has Radio, GPS, CDs and phone connectivity (mainly for Calls but music etc would be nice). Ive already got a double din facia for her car so any universal double din would work. I dont yet know if her car has CANBUS - its a Toyota Urban Cruiser and has steering wheel controls but I cannot find an adapter for it so assuming it will be standard ISO connector.
Originally I was looking at non Android based units but felt the Android Auto would give her the best shot at sat nav with traffic updates etc and also mean things like sat nav wouldn't be instantly out of date. Whilst I have bought items from China before, I think somewhere like Amazon for me would be better as I can then return the unit if it doesnt work out. RDS and RDS-AF would be something that I know the missus would miss from a stereo so was trying to see how best to get that, either via ROM or a device that is known to do it. Spec wise, I wanted a unit that booted quickly and thought 2GB ram would be a worthwhile addition.
Here are two I've seen on Amazon. Originally I thought PX5 would be the way to go but it looks like ROM support for PX3 is quicker and better established. Ideally I would prefer something that just worked, but figured this may be unrealistic so something with good XDA support may be more realistic.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B06XFQN...TF8&colid=20JYJB23KMEOF&coliid=I1AFFIJZ2SJQWE
https://www.amazon.co.uk/EinCar-Qua...4606998&sr=8-1&keywords=Android+head+unit+2gb
https://www.amazon.co.uk/XOMAX-XM-2...504607424&sr=1-97&keywords=double+din+sat+nav
Any thoughts or pointers welcome
Sorry to bump but could really use some pointers - even if its just a "those head units are crap" and "read this"
SlyTuk said:
Sorry to bump but could really use some pointers - even if its just a "those head units are crap" and "read this"
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It is really hard to say something about a unit if you don't own or have owned that unit, and the units you mention are really "rare" units. What you read about here are the well-known units like Joying, Dasaita, Ownice, A-Sure, Witson and a number of others.
Your units are so rare (I personally have never heard of them) that I assume nobody knows them and therefore doesn't want to give a best-guess answer.
One thing though: I would advice not to buy a PX3. It is an older unit and quite slow. Yes, it is very well supported but the new PX5 is only here for a few months but really moving forward.
Or buy a Joying.
And remember: the quality is less than the premium brands, but you also pay 3-6x times the price for such a unit.
Ok. Thanks
Can you get a Joying with a dvd drive built in? Are there many PX5 versions with built in dvd?
Do you guys get yours direct from china? Is there any that have euro resellers?
Thanks again
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Ok. Thanks
Can you get a Joying with a dvd drive built in? Are there many PX5 versions with built in dvd?
Do you guys get yours direct from china? Is there any that have euro resellers?
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The Joying Sofias have no DVD/CD player. I looked at some of the major Chinese brand PX5 models, but the ones I checked out didn't have a DVD player either. It is "old technology" (And yes, my wife also still prefers a booklet with CDs instead of selecting a playlist from a multi-playlist collection in a music player).
Joying has warehouses in Germany, Australia and the USA. Maybe the others have as well. Some of the bigger brands also sell via Amazon.
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The Joying Sofias have no DVD/CD player. I looked at some of the major Chinese brand PX5 models, but the ones I checked out didn't have a DVD player either. It is "old technology" (And yes, my wife also still prefers a booklet with CDs instead of selecting a playlist from a multi-playlist collection in a music player).
Joying has warehouses in Germany, Australia and the USA. Maybe the others have as well. Some of the bigger brands also sell via Amazon.
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What did you go for in the end? PX3 with dvd or convince the missus to go for a dvdless model?
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What did you go for in the end? PX3 with dvd or convince the missus to go for a dvdless model?
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My signture states I'm using a joying, which is DVD-less.
I would never buy a PX3 anymore.
I've decided to buy a double din universal 7" android 8.0 head unit. After 3 days of researching i came across those 3 as the best.
I'd like to know which one do you guys recommend.
Thanks a lot.
Xtrons TE706PL
EONON GA2170
Auto Pumpkin
im also interested..
even though i like hard Buttons and vol knob more than sw Buttons, i would go with the xtrons
If you look on the backsind of the Units, xtrons has defenetly the best buildt quality.
Inside they are pretty much the same
Interesting to know what Kind of amp chip and Radio chip is used.
Thats my oppinion
Differences? Probably none.
But beware, not one of them runs Android 8. They just change a few strings to make it look like they do for marketing purposes.
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Differences? Probably none.
But beware, not one of them runs Android 8. They just change a few strings to make it look like they do for marketing purposes.
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Are you sure about this? what is the actual version then?
I'll have my xtrons next week I'll report back then
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I ordered the Pumpkin Auto, so will also report my results.
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Are you sure about this? what is the actual version then?
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Usually somewhere between 5.1 and 6.0.
The user interface they present is a dead giveaway.
The interface that Android 8 presents should look very similar to Android Auto.
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I'll have my xtrons next week I'll report back then
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I ordered the Pumpkin Auto, so will also report my results.
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Please guys don't forget to share your opinion when you receive them. Thanks a lot.
Got a notice that would have it in 5-7 days from today. Honestly, my expectations aren't super high for the "all be" here (for $300), if Spotify and Waze work that will be 90% of my use of it right there and anything else is gravy.
I ordered a $1,200 android unit that is manufactured in the USA and was bummed when on installation the unit display was dead and it had to go back for a refund, so I ended up with a $1,200 Alpine setup with Android Auto. I like it, but wouldnt mind playing with an Android unit.
The major downside I know that is coming is the need to turn on my hot spot every time I get in the truck - this will be annoying.
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Got a notice that would have it in 5-7 days from today. Honestly, my expectations aren't super high for the "all be" here (for $300), if Spotify and Waze work that will be 90% of my use of it right there and anything else is gravy.
I ordered a $1,200 android unit that is manufactured in the USA and was bummed when on installation the unit display was dead and it had to go back for a refund, so I ended up with a $1,200 Alpine setup with Android Auto. I like it, but wouldnt mind playing with an Android unit.
The major downside I know that is coming is the need to turn on my hot spot every time I get in the truck - this will be annoying.
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I haven't heard of any android ivi's being made in USA. Care to share who they are?
I actually gave up completely on getting anything decent in a "ready to go" form.
Went this route instead; https://github.com/HiKey960-Car
And somebody pointed out this really neat 10" display that would be really nice with it:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0776VNW9C
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I haven't heard of any android ivi's being made in USA. Care to share who they are?
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https://insaneaudio.com/product/insane-audio-jk2001/
These folks are based in California and build their units in the USA.
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https://insaneaudio.com/product/insane-audio-jk2001/
These folks are based in California and build their units in the USA.
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Uh, THAT is an ENORMOUS markup on an MTCD PX5. Look at the UI and the specifications.
Looks like not only audio, but prices are insane as well. Are we insane enough to go for it? .
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https://insaneaudio.com/product/insane-audio-jk2001/
These folks are based in California and build their units in the USA.
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That looks just like the eBay ones .. doubt it's made in the USA...
These days many US made products are built from parts from China, so maybe they get their head units from there and then modify/customize them here in the USA. From an economics perspective, it would make sense since getting all the parts to build them entirely here is likely not possible. I did speak to them and they have a US based operation. I also believe they are doing the OS work for their units.
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These days many US made products are built from parts from China, so maybe they get their head units from there and then modify/customize them here in the USA. From an economics perspective, it would make sense since getting all the parts to build them entirely here is likely not possible. I did speak to them and they have a US based operation. I also believe they are doing the OS work for their units.
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If they were doing OS work, it wouldn't have the same old really crappy chinese UI.
I'm sure that they're US based, but they're a US based "logo" and reselling company. They order the "out of the box" MTCD units with a custom logo printed on it and call it good.
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Got a notice that would have it in 5-7 days from today. Honestly, my expectations aren't super high for the "all be" here (for $300), if Spotify and Waze work that will be 90% of my use of it right there and anything else is gravy.
I ordered a $1,200 android unit that is manufactured in the USA and was bummed when on installation the unit display was dead and it had to go back for a refund, so I ended up with a $1,200 Alpine setup with Android Auto. I like it, but wouldnt mind playing with an Android unit.
The major downside I know that is coming is the need to turn on my hot spot every time I get in the truck - this will be annoying.
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Nfc stickers(what I'm using) or use Tasker with root.
Brand EONON, Suck do not purchase this brand, I purchase 3 touch screen stereo the most expensive in-dash they have, 6 yrs. ago they suck, the eonon almost burn my wires on my mk5 VW, 3 yrs ago, so 3 yrs later should be enough time for EONON to fix all the bugs so I order ga5153a for my Mk5, fck drove my car windows crazy,
now I have mk6 2010 Golf GTI, Bought Ga7185A, this one drove both my windows, locking system and alarm crazy, and BTW all of eonon stereos, when going into EQ settings and want to hear the back speaker only, would not work, all speakers wires in the eonon stereos, are connected to only left and right no back speakers. this Chinese don't care if you burn your car or not, you can't sue them since their in the 3rd country.
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Got a notice that would have it in 5-7 days from today. Honestly, my expectations aren't super high for the "all be" here (for $300), if Spotify and Waze work that will be 90% of my use of it right there and anything else is gravy.
I ordered a $1,200 android unit that is manufactured in the USA and was bummed when on installation the unit display was dead and it had to go back for a refund, so I ended up with a $1,200 Alpine setup with Android Auto. I like it, but wouldnt mind playing with an Android unit.
The major downside I know that is coming is the need to turn on my hot spot every time I get in the truck - this will be annoying.
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macrodroid ftw
Hi everyone. I have a Eonon GA2163 10" 2gb of ram and i want to upgrade. What brand should i look or which one should i stay away?
What i would like to have is:
10" screen
4gb of ram
DSP
Android update
Is this possible to have all that for 500$ CAD?
Another question: I see soooo many negatives comment about sound quality on youtube. For me, the sound quality of my Eonon is "correct". It only have a 3 bands EQ (treble, mid, bass). So a newer HU with DSP should have better sound quality...
Thanks for your help.
I've been looking around for an upgrade to my Pioneer Nav and I'm Canadian as well.
I don't think I was able to find any px6 10.2" screens with DSP for less than $650CAD. That said, the 9" versions come in at around $550 as seen here
The reason why I reference the PX6 is is because it comes with the DSP. But honestly, if you have a specific budget you're likely going to be looking at the PX5 models without DSP. You can always add DSP later though.
But yeah, I spent many hours trying to find the best deal. I couldn't find anything in your pricerange when I looked.
Maybe you can check on JOYING website, all of the newest intel 9853i system has built-in dsp, the sound is amazing
SummerLiu said:
Maybe you can check on JOYING website, all of the newest intel 9853i system has built-in dsp, the sound is amazing
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It appears this is the model you're referring to. I didn't catch that before... might be an ok fit for the OP
https://www.joyingauto.com/joying-1...een-car-navigation-system-with-4g-module.html
It does seem that Joying probably has the best pricing although it's a brand I choose to stay away from. I also can't get over the massive logo on the front of all their devices. It screams cheap to everyone that gets in my car lol. Personal preference though
I don't think you'll see much development for that either. It seems all the development right now is mostly around the PX3/PX5 and hopefully the PX6 in the future.
So software wise, I'd also be hesitant to purchase Joying.
Also, the Joying comes in at over $600CAD, outside of the OP's budget.
Thanks for your help. I said dps but what i really want is a good EQ. Not a cheap 3 bands.... 9" could do the job too.
I feel really insecure to buy a 500$+ head unit without any advice. My eonon have some bugs that i want to be sure the next head unit will not have like bluetooth connexion. If i have elm327 connected and my phone, when i receive a call the elm327 is disconnected. And this is when i successfully pair the damn device. This is one of the main reason i want an android head unit: app like torque or dashcommand connected to my car.
I don't believe any of the head unit manufacturers are good at software. That goes for the likes of Pioneer down to the Chinese brands. They are in the hardware sales business, not the software business. They need the software to work well enough to do a quick demo and get you to buy. Don't expect a lot of thoughtful design consideration or UI testing.
If I am wrong and there is a good company out there, I would love to hear who they are. I'd certainly consider buying a newer head unit from them. I am in no rush. I let my Joying HU sit on a shelf for a couple years before finally getting around to installing it.
The software is very disappointing. A2DP stops when going into GPS for example. I can't seem to figure out how to map my VOICE steering wheel button to Google Voice Input (like google search widget offers). And how do I disable AVIN so when I press the SRC or Mode SWC button it isn't in the cycled list? It's the small things. Even the pick up phone button (when hung up) doesn't start the Bluetooth phone dialer. The software is very, very poor. Reminds me of the brain dead design decisions of Kenwood and Alpine of years past.
Just my 2c.
The DSP is more than just an equalizer everybody will tell you units equipped with one sound better. Look for your car on the Ownice store the K3's have DSP. The K3 low would definitely fall in your price range but it's not 4GB/32GB. The K3 high is the better unit and should be priced close to your limit. Wait for the exchange rate to get better (probably in the fall).
SummerLiu said:
Maybe you can check on JOYING website, all of the newest intel 9853i system has built-in dsp, the sound is amazing
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Thanks for your help. I said dps but what i really want is a good EQ. Not a cheap 3 bands.... 9" could do the job too.
I feel really insecure to buy a 500$+ head unit without any advice. My eonon have some bugs that i want to be sure the next head unit will not have like bluetooth connexion. If i have elm327 connected and my phone, when i receive a call the elm327 is disconnected. And this is when i successfully pair the damn device. This is one of the main reason i want an android head unit: app like torque or dashcommand connected to my car.
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Honestly, I'd stick to the hot-audio/dasaita models at this point.
Just the sheer amount of support and updates (the most recent update being about a week ago) makes these hopefully a safer bet. See updates here
Technology changes almost on a month to month basis. I accept that when I spent $500CAD+ on android tech that I may desire an upgrade a year later. It's just the cost of having the newest technology.
I do understand that not everyone can justify that kind of money on something that really is more of a want than a need though. If you feel that you just want something that is flawless, you may want to avoid android completely and just get something like a Pioneer unit. These units easily last 10+ years with no more than the odd map update. Just my 2cents.
$500CAD is a tough place to be for a budget right now. The reason I say this is because you definitely can't get the top of the line android HU for that. If you have that much to spend, you're better off holding off on the purchase until you can save up another $150 or so for the top of the line. If you can't afford top of the line, maybe pickup something on the lower end for like $250 for the next year or two and then upgrade later when you have the extra money? I'd hate to dump $500 though on something that's outdated or not receiving patches a year from now.
stokedcrf makes a good point about long term support especially with those Chinese units. They are getting better but there's still work to be done. Actually your best source for support is here provided you have a unit that's compatible. Look for one that is supported by hal9k or malaysk firmwares. Those would be Intel and Rockchip CPU with MTC_ MCU.
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The DSP is more than just an equalizer everybody will tell you units equipped with one sound better. Look for your car on the Ownice store the K3's have DSP. The K3 low would definitely fall in your price range but it's not 4GB/32GB. The K3 high is the better unit and should be priced close to your limit. Wait for the exchange rate to get better (probably in the fall).
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Thank you. Is Ownice a good brand? And right now there is 45% discount on the model for my car. What do you think of this head unit?
And what about update for Ownice? Will i be stuck with android 9.0 for ever or they have update for their head unit?
Thanks
Yeah don't get too excited about Aliexpress' discounts they come and go and come again. I linked to the Ownice official store there are others that sell them too but on the bright side shipping is included in the price at that store. Ownice is a manufacturer so you could have better support. Now talking about a good brand, these are Chinese units I wouldn't qualify any of them as good in the sense of Pioneer good. Lets just say some units suck less than most. In the last year this brand has put out units that were pretty decent. Here's the current K3/C800 thread and you can also read up on the C500.
Maxim is running HAL9K ROM 3.1 on his C800. HAL9K ROM started with Lollipop and is now up to Pie and the last 3 version of MTC MCU's are cross compatible so there should be upgrade possibilities for a while. You should do your own research and not have someone tell you what to spend your money on.
best android unit with DSP
When it comes to giant touch screen Android head unit with DSP, the best one I can think of is the XTRONS PST series. Unlike the pionneer, alphine, kenwood which usually has a relatively small screens, XTRONS PST series have 9~10 large screens.
The built-in dsp feature allows you to simply adjust the equalizers and add music effects and will offer great music experience.
Besides as I know, this is a brand designed in England, though it is manufactured in China.
Android Firmware Update link?
I just bought a head unit for the first time in years.. A Pioneer C5500NEX.
Only AFTER do I discover android units..
Anyway, I have been looking at them for weeks and cannot make up my mind.
I recently came across this brand. It looks good but you know.. the whole looks and deceiving thing...
Amazon.com
- I am not familiar with these terms like FYT. But I would like one that I can root relatively easy.
-4+gb of ram (6gb ram would be ideal)
-Decent audio quality and would prefer an optical output.
-A VOLUME KNOB isn't a requirement but would be nice. (Or any suggestions for wired remote controls)
-NOT vehicle specific. 9-11 inch floating IPS display.
-Any other recommendations are appreciated..
I've been looking at
-Joying:
Amazon.com
-Roadanvi
Amazon.com
-Dasaita.. also this is my first time seeing the "scout" models
Amazon.com
-EONON
Amazon.com
-ATOTO S8.. Which Verizon should I get?
Amazon.com
-IYING
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???? What is this...
Can anyone suggest something, please
Get anythng with PX6. We have great guy here with ROM.
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???? What is this...
Can anyone suggest something, please
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Item #1,
As in read the forum articles that deal with that, you need to put some work in.
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Get anythng with PX6. We have great guy here with ROM.
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What is an Anything PX6, as there are different vendors.
Also, I think you mean modded factory ROM. It largely attempts to address bugs to make things work properly, like Things that just work in the latest FYT UIS7862 unit. My advice, look for an FYT UIS 7862 such as mekede. The MTCD/E/P/H units remain buggy and slow in comparison.
You probably don't know what is being discussed here because item #1.
It's not easy indeed, especially when manufacturers don't tell you things you want to know.
We recently released a blog article that should give you a very good head start:
https://extrememod.co.uk/blog/f/android-head-unit-vs-android-auto-vs-bluetooth-stereo
I went with this one.
Did I mess up?
https://www.amazon.com/Dasaita-Carplay-Android-Navigation-1280x720/dp/B09DYCS8XY?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1&tag=xdaforum01-20
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I went with this one.
Did I mess up?
https://www.amazon.com/Dasaita-Carplay-Android-Navigation-1280x720/dp/B09DYCS8XY?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1&psc=1&tag=xdaforum01-20
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It doesn't show the product. Got another link?
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It doesn't show the product. Got another link?
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09DYCS8XY/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_PQDHBPNZPM95TPP9F2KD?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I'm have 2nd thoughts.. It was the display that really sold me.. except
-I wanted/NEEDED it in 10 inch. 11.6 is too much.
-No SPDIF or HDMI.
-No SIM card
-4gb+128gb...
These arnt the worst things in the world but @ $600 with shipping I feel like I'm giving up a lot.
It does have a PX6 like he said so I guess that's good?
Can you link me some good articles..
I'm curious what kind of modifications/ROMS/ O.S/ et I can do with these Chinese head units.
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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09DYCS8XY/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_PQDHBPNZPM95TPP9F2KD?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
I'm have 2nd thoughts.. It was the display that really sold me.. except
-I wanted/NEEDED it in 10 inch. 11.6 is too much.
-No SPDIF or HDMI.
-No SIM card
-4gb+128gb...
These arnt the worst things in the world but @ $600 with shipping I feel like I'm giving up a lot.
It does have a PX6 like he said so I guess that's good?
Can you link me some good articles..
I'm curious what kind of modifications/ROMS/ O.S/ et I can do with these Chinese head units.
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Okay as much as I like Dasaita, it's probably not the right choice for you. You are looking to make a considerable investment and seem to have a good understanding of features you're looking for.
Here's our latest article that will help you greatly making the right choice of head unit. It reveals many secrets manufacturers don't tell you.
https://extrememod.co.uk/blog/f/android-head-unit-vs-android-auto-vs-bluetooth-stereo
Once you've read it, reach out to us on our Facebook page and we'll help you through FB Messenger to find the perfect head unit for you and pick a trusted seller on AliExpress to save you money.
I bought one of these and I think they use Junsun firmware. I'm still digging into mine but the model of mine is FF_866X which xda has a thread for. What did you end up getting?
Hey there
I'm looking for a good Android head unit with really good specs (for e.g. QLED at least HD, best would he FullHD and a good chipset with a good amp, things like toslink and a fan to cool the unit would he nice) for a BMW pre facelift E46 - also for a MB CL203 pre facelift....
I'm just really confused by how many chipsets there are and which hardware specs are to look out for ..
I also don't know what Bluetooth codecs are used, you know, I also want to have good music without latency and with good quality - obviously we all want this
Maybe someone could help me out and tell me some things about all those head unit manufacturers like Dasaita, Junsun, Skyshadow and so on - I just don't know where start to filter the bad from the good units, I know one thing or two about android, but never bought an Android head unit before - now is the day
For example:. I found something like this here - BT6 or TT6 here on AliExpress (seems nice to me)
Is this overkill? : The 2k model on AliExpress which I found
Is it any good? For what should I look out for? Maybe there are some threads here on xda which are good to read to get some Infos, maybe someone could provide me those?
Also, I don't know anything about the specs of MTCD, MTCB and FYT, I don't have any Infos about them - but there are sperate xda developer forums for them...
Thank you very much in advance
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Right, I agree with written and just to add...
In preorder, before buying, specify to seller what kind of device you want and they will configure it for you (specially for Chinese merchants) or find a different solution.
marchnz said:
Start by having a read through forums, get a feel for the unit you want - more importantly want to avoid, then ask a few more pointed questions.
Honestly, there are few on xda that want to view links because you are unsure.
There are few and far between 'experts', which is not the best use of their time to answer repetitive posts from new users, a regular few members who dont respond, through to those that join to get free advice, disappearing once advice is received.
You probably want a FYT based UIS7862. Nothing better at this time.
Suggest what ever you decide - and you might have seen my posts with the same advice for the same question - get seller to send you images of full Android system information, including MCU version. This will signal the seller that you know what you want and be less likely to send you a lower spec unit, or completely different unit. If they try to scam you, you can then file a dispute/refund.
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Thank you very much, you just confirmed my thoughts, that this chipset would be the best of all those out there for Head Units - but I have also seen a Qualcomm Version, but have never compared them.
You see, I still don't know what FYT means and I just vaguely know, that MCU Version is the base system on which a head unit is based on?
I am not asking for full service, I'm just looking for example for tutorials - I would to write some tutorials if I gain more and more knowledge, would help other newbies like me. Also it could be just about that someone else is buying or bought a head unit for those cars I've mentioned - sometimes it just happens by chance...
But thank you anyway, you gave me the right Infos and tips for what I have to look for.
Anton TNT said:
Right, I agree with written and just to add...
In preorder, before buying, specify to seller what kind of device you want and they will configure it for you (specially for Chinese merchants) or find a different solution.
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So they basically search for a head unit for me to my liking?
I think that I have to write with some of those sellers to have a selection from which I could chose.
Are there some amplifiers, which should be avoided or which are good and recommended? Are there any details for which I should look out, which could be a good trap for newbies like me?
Where I can get MCU Version information? (I know, you can look it up in the 'about' screen on Android, but I'm still not quite sure what it represents) so basically if someone has a for e.g. Dasaita and someone else have a Skyshadow, they could use the same software, if MCU Version would he the same?
Thank you very much
Ubuntu_Man said:
So they basically search for a head unit for me to my liking?
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Not by liking must choose what your car tells you, choose what is compatible with car and most up to date device
Start by searching for units compatible with your car.Then narrow the selection by CPU (8 core), RAM (6 or 8 GB) and screen.
When you are down to a handful, look at seller reputation and number of units sold for your config.
Also, check shipping terms and always ask if they ship from regional warehouse.
so, I still don"t understand what FYT or the other things stand for - I have no idea, I thought, that maybe the chipset like UIS7862 defines what is DYT or MCPD or what ever - also what is MCU-version?
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so, I still don"t understand what FYT or the other things stand for - I have no idea, I thought, that maybe the chipset like UIS7862 defines what is DYT or MCPD or what ever - also what is MCU-version?
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FYT is the manufacturer of most of these UIS7862-based units, no matter what the Chinese reseller calls them. Navifly, Mekede, Joying, etc.
MTCB to MTCE are really old units from a different manuacturer.
MCU is basically the "mind" of the unit, taking care of low level functionality.
Now, for the bad news. This is all pretty much useless information.
Look for a good screen - best I have seen in these units is 2000x1200 QLED, 8-core and as much RAM and ROM as you can find - 6 to8BG RAM and 128 GB storage is max I have seen.
Android 10 (almost all Android 11 and 12 units are fake and actually are Android 10)
Don't count on updates and get a headunit designed for your car to avoid frustration.
m00n61 said:
FYT is the manufacturer of most of these UIS7862-based units, no matter what the Chinese reseller calls them. Navifly, Mekede, Joying, etc.
MTCB to MTCE are really old units from a different manuacturer.
MCU is basically the "mind" of the unit, taking care of low level functionality.
Now, for the bad news. This is all pretty much useless information.
Look for a good screen - best I have seen in these units is 2000x1200 QLED, 8-core and as much RAM and ROM as you can find - 6 to8BG RAM and 128 GB storage is max I have seen.
Android 10 (almost all Android 11 and 12 units are fake and actually are Android 10)
Don't count on updates and get a headunit designed for your car to avoid frustration.
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Thank you very much - you're the only one, who provided me some answers to my questions in the first place.
You also confirmed my view on the Android head unit market - would also look for the same things you wrote to look after buying a new head unit.
Do you know, if there is a double DIN unit which has one knob for the volume? The only one I've found has only "High definition" resolution, there is no option for a 2k display - it's this one: Head unit with fake android 11 because of false API but looks nice and has some features - especially the BT6 and TT6 models...
I would love to have a BT6 with a 2k display, but I think that this only a dream. There just simply none available with a volume knob and a 2k display, otherwise it would be just perfect.
Hi there, sorry to jump in your thread, but i am also searching for a unit for my E46. I went through a lot of pages from the 144 pages of the main FYT thread available, but still, i am a bit lost to find out the unit that would fit the best my wishes. Did you choose one finally ? Overall from my side, i am currently stock navigation system with Harman Kardon amp and speakers. Over it i installed a raspberry with an interface named "Pibus" which allows a piece of software running on Kodi to get a lot of interaction with the car (BMWRaspcontrol). Overall i love the system, it has a lot of benefit, but the downside of it is Kodi, so no Android auto, no carplay nothing like that.
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Thank you very much - you're the only one, who provided me some answers to my questions in the first place.
You also confirmed my view on the Android head unit market - would also look for the same things you wrote to look after buying a new head unit.
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If this wil help you choose...
I have bought recently TS18 unit (topway branded) and installed it in car. First of all, I'm so happy I got this, for 200€ I got Qualcomm processor (much faster and better than Chinese c....p Mediatek) , bunch of new apps that you can choose to install rather than have all mixed in single process, updating of unit is online, so you must have internet connection (5g is activated and running the whole time and + got wifi connection).
Unit has also online update for any of canbus boxes installed (so you won't have to choose or re-set all wheel controls), theme app for various themes and boot animation app for setting custom boot animations.
Unit has root access so it means you can do with your device anything you want!
And all that for only 200€ (bought 2GBx64GB) and with no customs taxes.
For other units like this one you are considering, this is jackpot.
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If this wil help you choose...
I have bought recently TS18 unit (topway branded) and installed it in car. First of all, I'm so happy I got this, for 200€ I got Qualcomm processor (much faster and better than Chinese c....p Mediatek) , bunch of new apps that you can choose to install rather than have all mixed in single process, updating of unit is online, so you must have internet connection (5g is activated and running the whole time and + got wifi connection).
Unit has also online update for any of canbus boxes installed (so you won't have to choose or re-set all wheel controls), theme app for various themes and boot animation app for setting custom boot animations.
Unit has root access so it means you can do with your device anything you want!
And all that for only 200€ (bought 2GBx64GB) and with no customs taxes.
For other units like this one you are considering, this is jackpot.
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Thanks for your recommendation, I took a quick and first look on those units and they are very similar to the other ones, regarding the screen, ram+rom, sources/outputs and also the resulting price - but I can't find any information which SOC is installed - which Qualcomm SOC do you have? There were some of those units, last time I searched - something like snapdragon 662?
I prefer to have a high amount of ram and ROM, also it should have a QLED Display + one knob for volume regulation....
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Thanks for your recommendation, I took a quick and first look on those units and they are very similar to the other ones, regarding the screen, ram+rom, sources/outputs and also the resulting price - but I can't find any information which SOC is installed - which Qualcomm SOC do you have? There were some of those units, last time I searched - something like snapdragon 662?
I prefer to have a high amount of ram and ROM, also it should have a QLED Display + one knob for volume regulation....
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I bought this device ... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/100....order_list.order_list_main.59.21ef1802Q3dkF7
SPECS: read and enjoy...
UNIT AINAVI "H5"
Preset Station: FM
Built-in DVD Player: NO
Built-in CD player: NO
Chipset: Qualcomm 8953
Processor Speed: 1.8GHz
Processor Type: QUALCOMM SNAPDRAGON ARM CORTEX 8 core UNISOC
Is touch screen: YES
Built-in Screen: YES
TF/Micro SD Slot: 2
Din: Double Din
RAM: 2G-6G
Special Feature: Wifi Function,Support Steering Wheel Control online,Support 3G Network,Support 4G Network,Support Can-Bus, Updating online
Operating System: Android 10.0 OS
Out Power: 4*50w
Voltage: 12V
Material Type: Glass
Item Weight: 1.8kg
Item Size: 9 Inch
Max External Memory: 128G
ROM: 128G
Special Features: Built-in GPS,MP3 Players,Voice Control,DSP,Carplay,Android Auto,Reversing Input,Split Screen
Digital Media Format: Mp3,MP4,WMA,JPEG
OSD Language: Chinese (Simplified),Chinese (Traditional),Albanian,Arabic,Azeri,Irish,Estonian,Belarusian,Bulgarian,Icelandic,Polish,PERSIAN,Boolean text (Dutch South Africa),Danish,German,Russian,French,Filipino,Finnish,Georgian,Haitian Creole,Korean,Dutch,Galicia,Catalan,Czech,Croatian,Latin,Latvian,Lithuanian,Romanian,Maltese,Malay,Macedonian,Norwegian,Portuguese,Japanese,Swedish,Serbian,Slovak,Slovenian,Swahili,Thai,Turkish,Welsh,Ukrainian,Hebrew,Greek,Spain's Basque,Spanish,Hungarian,Armenian,Italian,Yiddish,Hindi,Urdu India,Indonesia,English,Vietnamese
Resolution: 1280*720
Display Size: 9"
Brand Name: Ainavi
Origin: Mainland China
For Vehicle Brands/Model: PEUGEOT
Peugeot Model: 308
308-Year: 2009,2010,2011,2012,2013,2014
Certification: CE
Carplay: Built-in wired&wireless Carplay
Android Auto: Support Android Auto
Radio: Support FM/AM/RDS
Network: Support 3G/4G Network
Radio IC: SI47925
Amplifier IC: ST7850
GPS: Built-in GPS
Special Feature 1: Bluetooth
Special Feature 2: Built-In Speaker/Microphone
Special Feature 3: Support Steering Wheel Control
BIG BIG + is UNIT SUPPORT by seller and technicians
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Hi there, sorry to jump in your thread, but i am also searching for a unit for my E46. I went through a lot of pages from the 144 pages of the main FYT thread available, but still, i am a bit lost to find out the unit that would fit the best my wishes. Did you choose one finally ? Overall from my side, i am currently stock navigation system with Harman Kardon amp and speakers. Over it i installed a raspberry with an interface named "Pibus" which allows a piece of software running on Kodi to get a lot of interaction with the car (BMWRaspcontrol). Overall i love the system, it has a lot of benefit, but the downside of it is Kodi, so no Android auto, no carplay nothing like that.
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If your car is BMW E46 (see also compatibility of model - by year)
See this proposals ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/ainav...itiative_id=SB_20230217043125&origin=n&dida=y
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If your car is BMW E46 (see also compatibility of model - by year)
See this proposals ...
https://www.aliexpress.com/af/ainav...itiative_id=SB_20230217043125&origin=n&dida=y
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Hi there,
thanks for all the suggestion, indeed a Qualcomm processor if available is a huge plus compare to anything else. I will check out what's available and will report what i found. Is the one for the Peugeot you showed from the seller you got good support as you mentioned ?
Edit : Found out that the official store doesn't have any E46 model available, so started to look around, and found this unit, but the price for the Qualcomm 8 core version is a bit high
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004604768857.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029800475082%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21276.71%21276.71%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000029800475082%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=nA5qbKTZCCbI
Edit2 :
I found this one, looks really great with volume knobs as you requested @Ubuntu_Man , however the plastic looks a bit cheap, but maybe it is an impression :
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001774883334.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.23.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-11&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000017521648402%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21409.19%21245.51%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000017521648402%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=avv30AqHJaPb
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Is the one for the Peugeot you showed from the seller you got good support as you mentioned ?
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Yes , store is called AINAVI and sellers are always helpfull. + for them
del_piero3 said:
Found out that the official store doesn't have any E46 model available, so started to look around, and found this unit, but the price for the Qualcomm 8 core version is a bit high
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004604768857.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.3.4c0a6bfb7IpW6X&algo_pvid=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4&algo_exp_id=985320e3-4d0c-4d9b-a024-e12e233a18d4-1&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000029800475082%22%7D&pdp_npi=3%40dis%21EUR%21276.71%21276.71%21%21%21%21%21%40211bec8616767014406526756d074d%2112000029800475082%21sea%21BE%21144259117&curPageLogUid=nA5qbKTZCCbI
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Price is ok , trust me, custom tax is in price so probably ,dependable on your country, customs will not be charged. I have not payed customs for import.
And probably is with free shiping. Ali Express is cheapest, AMazon and E-bay are expensive.
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Price is ok , trust me, custom tax is in price so probably ,dependable on your country, customs will not be charged. I have not payed customs for import.
And probably is with free shiping. Ali Express is cheapest, AMazon and E-bay are expensive.
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Sure that's also to be considered, you are right. Have a look to the second unit i showed, i haven't seen your answers, so i edited a second time my post. It is not Ainavi, but it is with Qualcomm processor
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Sure that's also to be considered, you are right. Have a look to the second unit i showed, i haven't seen your answers, so i edited a second time my post. It is not Ainavi, but it is with Qualcomm processor
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First option looks like better option, but you should know better what to fit in your car. Compatibility with car is crucial.
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First option looks like better option, but you should know better what to fit in your car. Compatibility with car is crucial.
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Compatibility about what? The function in the head-unit or the physical fit ? The physical fit, on E46 there was no difference from the first to the second phase, all unit that are made for E46 should go in the head-unit location without any issue. I remember the first generation, the units were longer and sometimes it was tricky to get all the rear cables sorted correctly so the unit would enter the dashboard correctly, but now i see that the units are shorter so it shouldn't be an issue. About the software, i hope with the canbus that all the functions are decoded correctly form the bus, unless there is some bugs. And last but not least, about the OEM installation in place, this is up to us to check, mine have the OEM navigation with the BM54 in the trunk, so i know that i have to take the long cable to connect the unit in the one in the trunk, and that is some work to be done Unless i am missing something ?
the only one that worries me a bit is the screen resolution. I am wondering if such big screen with 1280x720 is enough ?