Hi All -
I have a Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 currently that I am using on Verizon, but the SIM I have is not setup for CDMA-Less. As such, I am debating ordering direct from Verizon, but I would really prefer to be able to unlock the bootloader. Does anyone know if the Verizon sold models bootloaders can be unlocked, or did they demand they be permanently locked for "network security" reasons?
PWn3R said:
Hi All -
I have a Xiaomi Mi Mix 3 currently that I am using on Verizon, but the SIM I have is not setup for CDMA-Less. As such, I am debating ordering direct from Verizon, but I would really prefer to be able to unlock the bootloader. Does anyone know if the Verizon sold models bootloaders can be unlocked, or did they demand they be permanently locked for "network security" reasons?
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Verizon doesn't sell the Pro, only the 8.
ohlin5 said:
Verizon doesn't sell the Pro, only the 8.
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And at this point, it's not looking good for unlocking the bootloader.
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Hi I have an opportunity of buying one of these and understand from elsewhere that: 'All Motorola phones locked to Verizon Wireless (USA) are not supported for unlocking. Do not purchase the unlock service if your DROID 3 is locked to Verzion. '
Which strongly indicates to stay away from it?
The current owner says:
I brought the unlock code but it has already been entered wrong to many times and is now subsidy locked. I have already spent nearly $600 on this phone Is there any way to unlock it?
If there is, can anyone point me to the resource url or give advice thanks vm.
Alistair.
Droid 3s can he unlocked to be used on GSM carriers outside of the US.
In the US it can only be used on CDMA.
Edit: This is the Droid X forum, you may get more answers over in the Droid 3 forum.
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I'm sure everybody already knows this, but just to confirm, here is a conversation with a Motorola rep I had:
Carl: Hi, my name is Carl. How may I help you?
Trevor: I was curious: what's the difference between the T-Mobile moto x and the developer editions, since both of their bootloaders are unlockable?
Carl: I will be more than happy to assist you on this.
Trevor: Is there any difference, because it's tempting to get a T-Mobile version so it can actually be customized.
Carl: The Developer Edition will have an unlocked Bootloader and the Developer Edition GSM will be unlocked with most GSM carriers.
Carl: The Developer Edition Verizon, will be locked with Verizon but will be unlocked for any non-US SIM cards.
Trevor: I use at&t, a GSM carrier, so I know after unlocking the bootloader on a T-Mobile phone, the carrier settings can be bypassed *and used on my network. But are there any actual hardware differences between the dev and T-Mobile versions? The way I understand it, they'll both have unlockable bootloaders.
Carl: The Developer Edition will only come with the 32 GB version.
Trevor: That's fine. I'd get a 32 GB T-Mobile version too. But am I right? The T-Mobile version is also bootloader unlockable, isn't it?
Carl: The MotoMaker Moto X will come with 16GB and 32GB.
Carl: Yes.
Carl: The MotoMaker Verizon and AT&T have a locked Bootloader.
Trevor: So why would I get the Dev version? Wouldn't it be smarter to get a T-Mobile version and unlock the bootloader AND have the benefit of getting a prettier phone?
Carl: Unlocking the Bootloader will void the warranty.
Carl: The Developer Edition will be unlocked for any GSM carriers right away.
Carl: With the Moto X MotoMaker version, you'll need to unlock the Bootloader first.
Carl: You'll also need the Subsidy unlock Code from the carrier to have it unlocked.
Trevor: Okay, so there's that. Are there limitations on using different bands of LTE , HSPA+ and HSPA with the T-Mobile phone on at&t's network?
Carl: Both versions will support these bands: GSM/GPRS/EDGE - UMTS/HSPA + up to 42 Mbps - CDMA/EVDO Rev. A (CDMA model only) - 4G LTE
Trevor: So they're essentially the same, if just void the warranty, and need a carrier unlock.
Carl: Correct.
I wonder how hard it is to unlock the carrier settings after the bootloader...
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I am under the impression that the T-Mobile motomaker is already unlocked(carrier) and Carl is a big fat lying jerk.
99% sure the T-Mo version comes SIM unlocked from the factory. Many have already answered this. I can confirm again today though. Already have a Developer Edition and my customized T-Mo edition is coming in today. I'm on AT&T so I'll know pretty quickly if it's locked to T-Mo.
I wonder how knowledgeable the website chat guys are. On Monday I had this conversation (copy and pasted exact, but names removed). I asked him specifically about the unlocked boot loader and voided warranty on the T-Mobile motomaker phone:
him: TMobile Edition supports the unlockable bootloader.
him: We have a new update for the warranty on the unlocked bootloader.
him: The warranty is no longer voided.
me: Is that on all phones and not just the developer phones?
me: If so that is excellent
him: That is for the phones that it is supporting the unlock boot loader but not for all phones.
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I read that to mean that if you can unlock the boot loader using the supported process, you can do it without voiding the warranty.
After finding the unlock page and reading it, I think he's wrong....or at least, misleading. Unlocking non-dev edition phones seems to void your warranty, full stop. But I'd love it if he is right...
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I am under the impression that the T-Mobile motomaker is already unlocked(carrier) and Carl is a big fat lying jerk.
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After everything I read up to this point I tend to agree.
It would be nice if someone who purchased the T-Mobile version and used it on AT&T network could confirm.
funmerlin said:
I wonder how knowledgeable the website chat guys are. On Monday I had this conversation (copy and pasted exact, but names removed). I asked him specifically about the unlocked boot loader and voided warranty on the T-Mobile motomaker phone:
I read that to mean that if you can unlock the boot loader using the supported process, you can do it without voiding the warranty.
After finding the unlock page and reading it, I think he's wrong....or at least, misleading. Unlocking non-dev edition phones seems to void your warranty, full stop. But I'd love it if he is right...
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I'll tell you Dec 16th, my delivery date for my T mo motomaker customized baby that I'll be using with att. ( until march of next year when the contract is up and I'm giving att the boot for aio or straight talk)
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I'm starting to notice there is a lot of incompetence in their customer care. I still haven't managed to get any help getting my order shipped after a week. I'm starting to lose hope. Has anybody had any luck getting their shipping expedited?
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ps. cant unlock bootloader on tmobile....and customer service at moto say its locked and not unlockable.
Not that it's a huge deal but the VZW version is not SIM locked. You can use it on att/tmo without a need for unlocking the device contrary to what this conversation says.
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gtg465x said:
99% sure the T-Mo version comes SIM unlocked from the factory. Many have already answered this. I can confirm again today though. Already have a Developer Edition and my customized T-Mo edition is coming in today. I'm on AT&T so I'll know pretty quickly if it's locked to T-Mo.
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Did your phone come in and is it locked to T-mo?
tonyguy2000 said:
Did your phone come in and is it locked to T-mo?
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No, it got held up by the storm in Texas.
Hmm. With all of the mixed results on here, I'm not feeling as dumb about just getting the Dev Edition. I'd rather not risk getting another bootlocked phone like I did with my S4 Active (because the bootloader unlock on that phone is going SO well).
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I have been told by several Google reps on G+ that the only difference between the Tmo version and the Dev is that the warranty remains after unlocking the Dev. I believe them so I ordered one. We will see. Also have the Dev version coming. One is going back.
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kolyan said:
ps. cant unlock bootloader on tmobile....and customer service at moto say its locked and not unlockable.
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You have the tmobile version and can't unlock the bootloader?
the green man said:
You have the tmobile version and can't unlock the bootloader?
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I think the only thing proven so far is that motos support reps are pretty clueless.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/09/t-mobile-moto-x-added-to-motorola-bootloader-unlock-program/
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...sion/L3RpbWUvMTM4NjQ3NDc0NS9zaWQvaTlvX0pnSGw=
Cubfan99 said:
I have been told by several Google reps on G+ that the only difference between the Tmo version and the Dev is that the warranty remains after unlocking the Dev. I believe them so I ordered one. We will see. Also have the Dev version coming. One is going back.
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Dear Motorola, what is the sense in a different warranty for ostensibly the same phone? It would maybe make some sense if there was some sort of qualification needed to purchase the 'Developer Edition' phone, but there isn't. I feel like getting a signature on my T-Mobile Moto Maker version...my signature will be "DEVELOPER EDITION". I plan on unlocking the boot loader of my phone and I would like Motorola to give me a rational reason why my warranty should be nullified if I do. Different colors and or letters printed on the back are not rational reasons to cancel a warranty.
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Dear Motorola, what is the sense in a different warranty for ostensibly the same phone? It would maybe make some sense if there was some sort of qualification needed to purchase the 'Developer Edition' phone, but there isn't. I feel like getting a signature on my T-Mobile Moto Maker version...my signature will be "DEVELOPER EDITION". I plan on unlocking the boot loader of my phone and I would like Motorola to give me a rational reason why my warranty should be nullified if I do. Different colors and or letters printed on the back are not rational reasons to cancel a warranty.
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Neither are 15mph school speed zones.They are completely ridiculous and traps for wrong doers, but it's the law. It's Moto/Carrier's law. Just the way it is.
By the way I agree with you, but it's the way it is. Dev only if you want bootloader unlock + warranty. End of discussion.
trevorftard said:
I'm sure everybody already knows this, but just to confirm, here is a conversation with a Motorola rep I had:
Carl: The Developer Edition will have an unlocked Bootloader and the Developer Edition GSM will be unlocked with most GSM carriers.
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Just as a note, the bootloader is not PRE unlocked, it still requires you to do so using a code acquired from the moto site using fastboot and a command console.
the green man said:
You have the tmobile version and can't unlock the bootloader?
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funmerlin said:
I think the only thing proven so far is that motos support reps are pretty clueless.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/09/t-mobile-moto-x-added-to-motorola-bootloader-unlock-program/
https://motorola-global-portal.cust...sion/L3RpbWUvMTM4NjQ3NDc0NS9zaWQvaTlvX0pnSGw=
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Yes, they assured me that its a mistake and their website is wrong....
But as one guy said, I need to wait for my device to be added to their bootloader unlock database. So far I can't unlock it.
kolyan said:
Yes, they assured me that its a mistake and their website is wrong....
But as one guy said, I need to wait for my device to be added to their bootloader unlock database. So far I can't unlock it.
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Wait, a mistake as in you can unlock the bootloader without voiding your warranty with the T-mobile edition? Or, wrong as in you can unlock the bootloader and void your warranty in the process?
I'm looking to get an s5 for use in north america. My sim card is using AT&T towers. I want a bootloader that allows unlocking using "fastboot oem unlock" or a similar command; no workarounds like loki. I will be buying outright, not carrier subsidizing for 2 years. Given these criteria, which model numbers should I be considering?
I've heard that the t-mobile one has the unlockable bootloader. Does it support all the bands to use AT&T towers?
I've seen more than one model number for international units. Are all the bootloaders unlockable? What's the deal with the region-locking? Will some of them work better for me than the others?
gianptune said:
I'm looking to get an s5 for use in north america. My sim card is using AT&T towers. I want a bootloader that allows unlocking using "fastboot oem unlock" or a similar command; no workarounds like loki. I will be buying outright, not carrier subsidizing for 2 years. Given these criteria, which model numbers should I be considering?
I've heard that the t-mobile one has the unlockable bootloader. Does it support all the bands to use AT&T towers?
I've seen more than one model number for international units. Are all the bootloaders unlockable? What's the deal with the region-locking? Will some of them work better for me than the others?
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There is no unlocking of bootloaders. It's either unlocked, or locked from the factory.
To answer your question, get the G900T (the tmobile version). You can get this at costco, best buy, target, .... and of course a tmobile store itself. It supports all of AT&T's bands and more.
aooga said:
There is no unlocking of bootloaders. It's either unlocked, or locked from the factory.
To answer your question, get the G900T (the tmobile version). You can get this at costco, best buy, target, .... and of course a tmobile store itself. It supports all of AT&T's bands and more.
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Best Buy doesn't carry T Mobile phones except I prepaid, so they can't buy it there.
joshua.justice said:
Best Buy doesn't carry T Mobile phones except I prepaid, so they can't buy it there.
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I bought the g900t and have been using it on att networks. I bought the phone unlocked but new beside that on ebay. I did have to play with some different apns to get it to take on different towers. I had some issues while traveling in different cities that I wouldn't get data. But I think I got the issue fixed. Just took the 133mb ota, hoping that it doesn't mess with the cell unlock or keep me from rooting. Well so far it hasn't messed with the carrier unlock
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Best Buy doesn't carry T Mobile phones except I prepaid, so they can't buy it there.
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Weird. Mine did. Just buy it at Costco or a tmo store. I just bought it from a tmobile store. Went through really easily.
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aooga said:
Weird. Mine did. Just buy it at Costco or a tmo store. I just bought it from a tmobile store. Went through really easily.
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the tmobile store told me that they would not unlock a new phone like this for at least 6 months even if you buy it outright. So if you do that plan on unlocking it with one of the many websites that do it
aklbeach said:
the tmobile store told me that they would not unlock a new phone like this for at least 6 months even if you buy it outright. So if you do that plan on unlocking it with one of the many websites that do it
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Well i'm on tmobile so I didn't need them to unlock anything, but you're right, they won't unlock it so the OP will need to use some unlocking site to use it on ATT.
Looking to purchase a Verizon Note 4. Are there any Verizon Note 4's that are rootable besides the developer's edition? There are several brand new unopened Note 4's on Swappa that haven't taken the OTA ever. Will those be rootable?
I just need to be able to use a hotspot without paying $30 a month. My Galaxy S3 has the synergy Rom which has built in hot spot. I tried using foxfi but it disconnects you after a few minutes.
If there are any ways to get hotspot withouth $30 a month I would just buy any Note 4.
Thanks in advance.
Edit: Also, when people write "Unlocked" what does that mean? Does that mean it has a unlocked bootloader?
If you want to root you'll need the developer edition. Otherwise it's currently not possible on the other Verizon variant.
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gregb7677 said:
If you want to root you'll need the developer edition. Otherwise it's currently not possible on the other Verizon variant.
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All of the Verizon versions are unrootable? When people write "Unlocked" on their swappa listings, does that mean an unlocked bootloader? If not, what does it mean?
If you want to use the Hotspot you can use foxfi and not need root...
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All of the Verizon versions are unrootable? When people write "Unlocked" on their swappa listings, does that mean an unlocked bootloader? If not, what does it mean?
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Unlocked on swappa means sim unlocked. Will work with any Sim.
Hello. I cant seem to find any service that can sim unlock a verizon htc 10. I am looking for a remote unlock, or a way I can be sure it will unlock, since I am buying the phone off Ebay. I would hate to buy it, to see it wont accept unlock codes.
Will converting it to US unlocked version (s-off, change cid, flash ruu) sim unlock it? Or is the sim lock permanent on verizons?
liquidzorch said:
Hello. I cant seem to find any service that can sim unlock a verizon htc 10. I am looking for a remote unlock, or a way I can be sure it will unlock, since I am buying the phone off Ebay. I would hate to buy it, to see it wont accept unlock codes.
Will converting it to US unlocked version (s-off, change cid, flash ruu) sim unlock it? Or is the sim lock permanent on verizons?
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As I mentioned in the other thread the verizon 10 is not sim locked and will work with a gsm sim card, provided that the lte bands used by the GSM network are supported by the Verizon variant. You just need to switch the network mode to Global in Settings I believe.
Tarima said:
As I mentioned in the other thread the verizon 10 is not sim locked and will work with a gsm sim card, provided that the lte bands used by the GSM network are supported by the Verizon variant. You just need to switch the network mode to Global in Settings I believe.
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Thanks for your replies. I have asked the person selling it, and he says his is locked to verizon, it will not accept gsm sim. The unlocked verizons are a bit more expensive. Is there any remote unlocking services for verizon? Even if it has bad ESN.
liquidzorch said:
Thanks for your replies. I have asked the person selling it, and he says his is locked to verizon, it will not accept gsm sim. The unlocked verizons are a bit more expensive. Is there any remote unlocking services for verizon? Even if it has bad ESN.
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I don't know how much sense what the seller is telling you makes.
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/verizon-unlocking-guide
As I said I used my stock verizon 10 with a gsm sim.
Regarding your question sorry I don't know. And I suspect the reason you don't find much info is because it's not needed.
Tarima said:
I don't know how much sense what the seller is telling you makes.
https://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/verizon-unlocking-guide
As I said I used my stock verizon 10 with a gsm sim.
Regarding your question sorry I don't know. And I suspect the reason you don't find much info is because it's not needed.
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Yes, you can ask for an unlock, but you have to meet certain criteria, and some phones being sold dont meet the criteria, or the owner does not feel like calling verizon and asking them to unlock it even when being free. If I buy one I can not ask them to unlock it since I will not be on thier network. I have fallen in that trap before. They ask you have it activated on their network so they can send the unlock. Stupid, but its their rules.
liquidzorch said:
Yes, you can ask for an unlock, but you have to meet certain criteria, and some phones being sold dont meet the criteria, or the owner does not feel like calling verizon and asking them to unlock it even when being free. If I buy one I can not ask them to unlock it since I will not be on thier network. I have fallen in that trap before. They ask you have it activated on their network so they can send the unlock. Stupid, but its their rules.
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From Verizon's website:
We do not lock most phones or tablets that are activated with our postpay service, either during or after the term of your service contract or*Device Payment Plan*installment sales agreement.
We do not lock our 4G LTE devices, and no code is needed to program them for use with another carrier.
This is their official policy written on their site, so if the seller is trying to sell you phone that's somehow locked you should beware.