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Which Tab to Import to Use as Phone/Tablet on AT&T?

If I were to buy a Tab from Europe for use in the United States on AT&T, is there a particular model out there that works on the bands AT&T supports? As I understand it, the phone capability is disabled on the U.S. release, so I'd like to get one that has the capability, since I'm a bluetooth user primarily for phone calls anyway.

jdsemler said:
If I were to buy a Tab from Europe for use in the United States on AT&T, is there a particular model out there that works on the bands AT&T supports? As I understand it, the phone capability is disabled on the U.S. release, so I'd like to get one that has the capability, since I'm a bluetooth user primarily for phone calls anyway.
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If we are lucky the phone is disabled only at the ROM level... In which case we may get it back when flashing
If you want the right 3G bands, I would bet on Telstra (Australia0 or Bell (Canada). The problem is you'll probably end up paying more than US versions
We are on the same boat btw...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824676
What worries me is AT&T has been super slow in announcing its model... We still have no idea when it will be available or how much it will cost

^ Most likely before the holiday shopping season begins. They wont DARE miss it.
What At&t is probably doing is focusing on Windows Phone 7 for a while before switching their marketing over to the Galaxy Tab. Also, let the other carriers market the crap out of their own Galaxy Tabs so At&t stands out from the crowd.
The three carriers will be launching their Tabs only a couple of days from each other. T-Mobile is first, two days later Verizon then 4 days later Sprint.

I would love to get an Euro version to use on AT&T, but they are so damn expensive. The cheapest I've found is $939!!!!

INeedYourHelp said:
I would love to get an Euro version to use on AT&T, but they are so damn expensive. The cheapest I've found is $939!!!!
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On top of that 3G won't work in the US... So no don;t do that, it would be such a waste...

Alcibiade said:
On top of that 3G won't work in the US... So no don;t do that, it would be such a waste...
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NOT true.
The euro model WILL WORK on at&t's 3G just fine (and will make call just fine) if you live in an area that at&t uses 1900Mhz for its 3G network.
I use it just fine here in the SF Bay Area.

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I think if your going to get a tab with no contract the best one to get would be the tmobile one the sim slot is still here so it may just be the rom they mess with,
plus the price is like 599 us why pay 989 plus shipping

bulldebeerman said:
I think if your going to get a tab with no contract the best one to get would be the tmobile one the sim slot is still here so it may just be the rom they mess with,
plus the price is like 599 us why pay 989 plus shipping
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???????
You think the slim slot will be missing on other carriers ? Yeah right...
There will be a SIM slot on all of the Tabs in the US. You need a SIM for 3G connections

clubtech said:
NOT true.
The euro model WILL WORK on at&t's 3G just fine (and will make call just fine) if you live in an area that at&t uses 1900Mhz for its 3G network.
I use it just fine here in the SF Bay Area.
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And you'll be missing 850 Mhx band
So... you pay nearly twice the price of the US Tab and you get a crippled device... Sounds like a great deal !

Alcibiade said:
You think the slim slot will be missing on other carriers ? Yeah right...
There will be a SIM slot on all of the Tabs in the US. You need a SIM for 3G connections
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It'll be missing on the Sprint and Verizon models as they're CDMA-based and therefore don't use SIM cards.

Hey guys- there is already a post that discusses this question. please be careful about clogging the site up with questions that have already been discussed. (it's upsetting the Russians)
As far as the 850 band goes, it's just as fast and available as the 1900 band. 850 was added to relieve congestion due to IPhone users in 2010. 1900 is still most places and isn't going away.
I wouldn't knock someone because they decided to get the euro version without 850. Clubtech has been rocking out on his for about a month with voice capability unlocked while we are sitting around hoping that the US carrier version can be hacked. That only cost him roughly 50 bucks a week and that drops every day we don't have one. Seems pretty smart at this point and by the time we do get ours and figure out how to unlock the phone the difference in price will be negligible. plus he's already saving for the next gen tab while we wait for this one. And how upset will you be when you find out the hardware is disconnected and we can't get the phone turned on and have to pay the same price 2 months later after already buying the castrated US version. I guess we will find out after Thursday. Also, I heard a nasty rumor that the front facing camera on the AT&T version is removed.
I plan to get the T-Mo version without a contract on Wed and then hand that off to my wife as a Wi-Fi only tab when I can get my hands on the unlocked 850 band model that has phone capability as shown on mobilecity.com or Negrielectronics.com. I don't care what the price is, I just want to rock out on a tab like Clubtech is doing NOW!!!

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Clubtech has been rocking out on his for about a month...
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I thought the release date was November first?

he got the Italian model several weeks ago

I didn't realise they'd launched it there earlier, for some reason I was under the impression it was launched across Europe on the same date.

Only the UK model was delayed untill Nov 1. Italy, Germany and several others have had it since early Oct.

The offical unlocked 850/1900 version was delayed until early 2011. Atleast thats what Samsung told Nergi however, the Bell version is offically coming on Nov 12th and that version has 850/1900 3G bands so there ya go... Full 3G in the USA!

Hi guys... I joined xda to try to figure out the best way to get voice calling in the US on the Tab... so thank you all so much for your information.
In an attempt to see if I have 1900MHz coverage from AT&T in my area... I called their 800 no. (1-800-331-0500) given to me by the local office, cus they didn't know precise coverage areas.
At the 800 number, the rep read from an Oct 10 release (on their MyCustomer Service Portal) where AT&T says that "because the number of customers with 1900MHz only phones is declinging" they are phasing out that frequency in 2010-2011. It's already begun in 30 markets (OKC phase out should be complete by Dec 2 according to the release). (Edited to add: clubtech says that they've been saying this since 2008, and hasn't happened yet.... so maybe it won't? who knows...)
They said they would replace customers' phones as the frequency was phased out if they were 1900MHz only.
And from what I've been able to learn here and elsewhere... it is the 1900MHz frequency that the Galaxy Tab uses, not the 850 frequency (at least on AT&T).
Sooooo.... isn't that lovely?
Looks like a Euro unlocked will not work for too much longer... altho maybe by the time the 1900 bands are phased out, there will be other workarounds.
So it's either back to mobilecity to preorder the 3G unlocked version for $879 (and who knows when that will be in?) or wait to see if the T-Mo version can be flashed to voice calling... which hopefully we will know soon.
btw... in my searching, clubtech was kind enough to enlighten me that the Euro version Tabs on eBay will only work on the 2G network of T-Mobile, which obviously is no good... so heads up on that.
But I must say I am getting even more pissed at the US carriers for making it so difficult to use the phone features of the tablet.

xexes said:
Hi guys... I joined xda to try to figure out the best way to get voice calling in the US on the Tab... so thank you all so much for your information.
In an attempt to see if I have 1900MHz coverage from AT&T in my area... I called their 800 no. (1-800-331-0500) given to me by the local office, cus they didn't know precise coverage areas.
At the 800 number, the rep read from an Oct 10 release (on their MyCustomer Service Portal) where AT&T says that "because the number of customers with 1900MHz only phones is declinging" they are phasing out that frequency in 2010-2011. It's already begun in 30 markets (OKC phase out should be complete by Dec 2 according to the release). (Edited to add: clubtech says that they've been saying this since 2008, and hasn't happened yet.... so maybe it won't? who knows...)
They said they would replace customers' phones as the frequency was phased out if they were 1900MHz only.
And from what I've been able to learn here and elsewhere... it is the 1900MHz frequency that the Galaxy Tab uses, not the 850 frequency (at least on AT&T).
Sooooo.... isn't that lovely?
Looks like a Euro unlocked will not work for too much longer... altho maybe by the time the 1900 bands are phased out, there will be other workarounds.
So it's either back to mobilecity to preorder the 3G unlocked version for $879 (and who knows when that will be in?) or wait to see if the T-Mo version can be flashed to voice calling... which hopefully we will know soon.
btw... in my searching, clubtech was kind enough to enlighten me that the Euro version Tabs on eBay will only work on the 2G network of T-Mobile, which obviously is no good... so heads up on that.
But I must say I am getting even more pissed at the US carriers for making it so difficult to use the phone features of the tablet.
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What starts to piss me off is AT&T has still not given any release date. Probably trying to please Apple... Once AT&T's tab is out we'll find out whether the call has been disabled at the hardware level (Given Samsung's history, I kind of doubt it)
But point taken, Cell phones networks (and operators) are at the level of Third World countries in America... (I lived in Hong Kong and Japan before)

Alcibiade said:
But point taken, Cell phones networks (and operators) are at the level of Third World countries in America... (I lived in Hong Kong and Japan before)
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Different countries' networks have different strong points and weak points.
In the UK, the biggest upside is the competitive pricing. The biggest downside is the generally poor data services, allowances, prices and speeds.
In the US, the cons seem to be the 50/50 split between two technologies, making matters unnecessarily complex and reducing competition, thus leading to poorer pricing. The pros relate to the superior adoption/acceptance of data usage, more generous allowances, pushing forwards with better network technologies and higher speeds.
Or, at least, that's how I see it.

I'm on the same boat with you Alcibiade. Although I tend to believe it's the collaborative decision, or perhaps more on the Samsung's side, to make the Tab more competitive to the iPad. If you look at the pricing of the Euro/Asia version, it's pretty much no contest against the iPad. For them to sell it here in the State (the home of walmart, Target, etc, and where iPad is from) they really had to take drastic approach to lower it in order to match the iPad. And that leaves u, and me getting frustrated about if we really do have the type of options that Samsung is trying to appeal to the consumer (by offering the same device to different carriers).
From what I can gather, aside from the lack of the voice capability, there are small difference between carriers. Spring and Verizon's version seems to have only 2GB built in memory. The T-Mobile runs on it's own 3G band. And AT&T's version is up in the air. I know for me I definitely need GSM for traveling, so that really leaves me without too much choice.
Albeit maybe i am just in the minority. But i really wish they could make purchasing Tab as easy as buying the iPad.

UK 4G LTE Thread

So what does everyone think about this phone not getting 4G in the UK, yet the S3 will?

RambJoe said:
So what does everyone think about this phone not getting 4G in the UK, yes the S3 will?
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not happy if that is the case! what is this based on?

After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...

MadfishGTB said:
After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...
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Boy! I'm gonna ask them to send me that in writing. If true that would be great! I'm with three

MadfishGTB said:
After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...
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Trouble is, what frequencies will be enabled? 800, 1800 etc, etc? Will we be forced to have multiple versions of the phone which are carrier dependent like in the States?

It makes no difference to me as in the uk 4G will only be available in limited areas for a year or two and by then itll be time for the note 3. 4G would be of no use to me at all where I live in the uk.
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I want to buy the note 2, but all these 4g frequencies fuss and no 100% confirmation from the carrier i use T-Mobile is holding me back.
As far as i know t-mobile will use a different frequency (ee) that note 2 does not support but again am not 100% sure.
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I had a conversation at the 3 store trafford centre one of the staff advised that 3 wasn't updating to 4g but would boost their internet to 46mb ....
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MadfishGTB said:
After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...
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How can people who have the phones check?

Not sure, would like to know so I can check on Thursday...
TBH, even if it doesn't have 4g I don't think i'll be too bothered as I've never thought download speeds were an issue... HD vids on youtube always downloaded without issue for example...
Faster is always better though so will be nice to have that extra bandwidth

Originally Posted by MadfishGTB
After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...
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I got the same reply when talking online to Three CS earlier tonight.

Has anyone got their's from 3 yet?
I think I might go for it tomorrow, for the £34 one.
Do 3 let you upgrade to the One Plan mid contract though, in case I decide I want tethering? lol
That would be amazing if it was 4G, or maybe if I can get a seller to tell me it does.

The Galaxy Note II (N7100) definitely does NOT handle 4G. The good news is that it does handle HSDPA+ which is in "real world" tests gives 4G a good run for its money without the price premium. EE are expected to charge around £15 a month on top of their existing 3G tariffs per month for their 4G with data caps.
Late last night, Ofcom, EE, Vodafone and O2 agreed a faster rollout of 4G in the UK with EE4G starting in the next few weeks in some cities. Vodafone and O2 will bid for new frequencies early next year and hope to be up and running by Spring 2013. EE will therefore have a lead of around 20 weeks but are expected to insist on a minimum term contract of 12 months.
I am staying with HSDPA on 3 and will see what competition does to prices next year and what real world performance and coverage is like. Others can risk their money being Guinea Pigs!
EE will be offering the 4G version of the Note II (N7105) for customers prepared to pay for an extended contract. It will be available from EE from October 15th.
I have just ordered the N7100!
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http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/47806/samsung-galaxy-note-2-lte-ee-uk-4g
15th October

RambJoe said:
Has anyone got their's from 3 yet?
I think I might go for it tomorrow, for the £34 one.
Do 3 let you upgrade to the One Plan mid contract though, in case I decide I want tethering? lol
That would be amazing if it was 4G, or maybe if I can get a seller to tell me it does.
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U can tether on all u can eat data ...
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mancuk29 said:
U can tether on all u can eat data ...
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Whilst this is possible it is specifically NOT permitted under their terms and conditions.
Three only permit tethering on their mobile data packages intended for laptops and myfi devices. If you try to use an "all you can eat" phone sim in a myfi device from Three, it does not work. Despite this, it is possible to tether a phone even though it is not officially allowed.
Needless to say, the data SIM route is more expensive than the "all you can eat" packages intended for unfettered phones.
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htc6500uk said:
The Galaxy Note II (N7100) definitely does NOT handle 4G. The good news is that it does handle HSDPA+ which is in "real world" tests gives 4G a good run for its money without the price premium. EE are expected to charge around £15 a month on top of their existing 3G tariffs per month for their 4G with data caps.
Late last night, Ofcom, EE, Vodafone and O2 agreed a faster rollout of 4G in the UK with EE4G starting in the next few weeks in some cities. Vodafone and O2 will bid for new frequencies early next year and hope to be up and running by Spring 2013. EE will therefore have a lead of around 20 weeks but are expected to insist on a minimum term contract of 12 months.
I am staying with HSDPA on 3 and will see what competition does to prices next year and what real world performance and coverage is like. Others can risk their money being Guinea Pigs!
EE will be offering the 4G version of the Note II (N7105) for customers prepared to pay for an extended contract. It will be available from EE from October 15th.
I have just ordered the N7100!
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Are you sure about this?
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii_n7100-4854.php
On there the N7100 supports 4G!
Arghhh this is so confusing. I'm currently finished my contract with Orange and just on a roll-on contract with them. And want to use their upgraded EE's 4G and 3G signal.
Are you sure N7100 doesn't have 4G embedded? The GSM website differs..

Can everyone on 3 network just give me am idea of the download speed you get with your phones on HSPDA (or + if you get it) ?
I'm on t mobile ATM but thinking of jumping ship...

b4d5h0t said:
It makes no difference to me as in the uk 4G will only be available in limited areas for a year or two and by then itll be time for the note 3. 4G would be of no use to me at all where I live in the uk.
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Have to agree with this.
Where I live and work these days, I won't see 4G LTE for at least a couple of years, so the lack of LTE in the Note II makes no difference to me.
Coupled with the fact that I'd rather have truly unlimited 3G from Three, as opposed to what is likely to be a tiered data plan on 4G from EE, LTE just isn't a required feature for me at present. Given the current data plans from Orange and TMo, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the data limits for EE's LTE were quite low and expensive - even a 5GB data plan won't last long at LTE speeds if you're really going to use LTE as it is intended.
Also, EE's LTE at 1800MHz isn't going to have great indoor penetration when compared to the LTE at 800MHz that we will see once the spectrum is auctioned off next year, so I'd rather wait for something better.
Ordered my Note II from Three yesterday, as my contract was coming to an end. I fully expect to replace it this time next year, despite the fact I will have to pay full price as I'll only be a year into the contract, so it's not as if I will be 'stuck' for two years anyway!
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Doesn't this mean it won't support 4G?
http://www.samsung.com/uk/news/localnews/2012/uk-availability-of-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-announced
Specifically:
Network
3G: HSPA+ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)

Feeling about the 6t on Verizon?

Can someone clarify is there is 3G coverage on Verizon? Also, what do people think about the much slower 19Mb vs normal 55Mb speeds the pixel gets? Do you think whatever may be causing the slower speed could also impact coverage area? I went from pretty hyped to pretty skeptical after reading the xda article covering Verizon use. If this worked flawlessy on Verizon it'd be a no brainier purchase but it seems like it won't.

The version Oneplus is offering directly has every band capable of covering each carrier.
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Can someone clarify is there is 3G coverage on Verizon? Also, what do people think about the much slower 19Mb vs normal 55Mb speeds the pixel gets? Do you think whatever may be causing the slower speed could also impact coverage area? I went from pretty hyped to pretty skeptical after reading the xda article covering Verizon use. If this worked flawlessy on Verizon it'd be a no brainier purchase but it seems like it won't.
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The 6T will cover all LTE bands needed to work on Verizon and it has been certified by Verizon to work as a bring your own device.. It does not have the CDMA bands for Verizon 3g service. A few reviews mention no issues with Verizon service.

nrage23 said:
The 6T will cover all LTE bands needed to work on Verizon and it has been certified by Verizon to work as a bring your own device.. It does not have the CDMA bands for Verizon 3g service. A few reviews mention no issues with Verizon service.
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According to the Oneplus 6T spec page on the Oneplus website it does indeed have CDMA bands 0 and 1. It should work with legacy 3G Verizon coverage. This doesn't mean it does, but it should be able to...
https://www.oneplus.com/6t/specs

Thanks for all of the replies but nobody has touched on xda's report of it getting 19Mb down on Verizon when the pixel got 55Mb down and the same op6t got 78down on T-Mobile. Is that not a cause for concern? Maybe I should wait for more in depth reviews?

I guess I'll find out next week when mine arrives! Been waiting for these phones to be compatible with Verizon so jumped right on ordering one.

clabern said:
According to the Oneplus 6T spec page on the Oneplus website it does indeed have CDMA bands 0 and 1. It should work with legacy 3G Verizon coverage. This doesn't mean it does, but it should be able to...
https://www.oneplus.com/6t/specs
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Also from their website.

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Also from their website.
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I believe that list only shows the LTE bands supported. Maybe I'm wrong but wouldn't it also list out the regular GSM bands supported for AT&T/T-Mobile if it included legacy connections (3G, etc)? I guess once more Verizon people have the phone and test we'll find out.

I ordered one this morning at 9 am to try. They have a 15 day return policy so if it only gets one band or signal sucks or something I will just return and call it a wash!

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I ordered one this morning at 9 am to try. They have a 15 day return policy so if it only gets one band or signal sucks or something I will just return and call it a wash!
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I think there is 15% restocking fee on returns...

I am in to see reviews for this phone through Verizon as well.. I am either going to get the OnePlus 6T or the Google Pixel 3. I was really excited that the OnePlus 6T would work on Verizon. But, as the OP mentioned. My excitement got dampened by the confusion if 3G will work on the OnePlus (as also mentioned OnePlus website shows bands 0 and 1 are on the phone but people are mentioning that 3G will not work) and the XDA article about much slower download speeds on Verizon with the OnePlus.
Very interested to hear hand on reviews with this phone through the Verizon network.

Ordered for Verizon so we'll see. No need for CDMA here.
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Same as many others. Currently, waiting to see reviews on how the OP6T works on VZW.

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I am either going to get the OnePlus 6T or the Google Pixel 3. .
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I was extremely excited about the pixel 3 non-xl even though the bezels are larger than almost every $800+ phone released in 2018. I forgave that as stereo speakers can be nice. Then they put the nail in the coffin by only having 4GB of RAM. I have had app refresh issues on every 4GB phone I've owned (every Android phone actually and have been using them since the OG Droid). This year was looking promising with phones having 6 and 8GB. When I heard the pixel was only going to be 4 I seriously considered buying an iPhone. I'm honestly very upset. It should be pixel 3 non-xl: 128GB with 6GB for $800 and 256 with 8GB for $900. They could even have gone $900 & $1000 or $1000 & 1100 and I would've bought one. 4GB is a deal breaker unless it was more like $500 or 600. Then I could justify buying one and just upgrading the second something better comes out.
The size of the 6t is my only downside. Love the small bezels but wish is were a 5.8-6" screen with the same resolution and bezels. Have to shrink the battery a bit too obviously.

The 6T does have CDMA. Wheter or not it works with VZW is another question.

I will know how it works with Verizon on Monday. It Shipped today with delivery of 11/5.

Ordered for Verizon today.
We'll see how it works.
I'm not that worried it should work as good as the Essential that I'm going to replace.

Ordered mine on 11/1. Should be here Tuesday but I’m hoping Monday. I think I’m more concerned about the few things I’ve read about no VoWiFi which I use a good bit during holidays with my wife’s family in the sticks.

Real world users of the 6T on Verizon are getting network speeds in the 30s and 40s, which is fine for me.

I've never done better than that on Samsung nor LG phones.

oneplus 6t on Verizon

Hey guys I need a new phone, currently I'm on an HTC 10, I can't switch my service provider right now. But I'm thinking about getting a oneplus 6t. From what I've read it will work on Verizons LTE network. Can anyone that is using this on Verizon right now let me know what you think/what your experience has been so far please???

don't know the bands in your area but it I can use apn just started playing with these I can use Sprint and T-Mobile with dual SIM thanks to conversion

kend0g said:
Hey guys I need a new phone, currently I'm on an HTC 10, I can't switch my service provider right now. But I'm thinking about getting a oneplus 6t. From what I've read it will work on Verizons LTE network. Can anyone that is using this on Verizon right now let me know what you think/what your experience has been so far please???
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Here is my situation, and perhaps its useful info for you. I came from Axon 7 to One Plus 6t. The Axon 7, while it worked on Verizon never was certified, and outside of custom roms, would have network issues. Day one on One Plus 6t, i had verizon service in rooms and places where i never did before. When you get a One Plus 6t activated on Verizon, they convert your sim card (digitally, so perhaps account would be more accurate) to what is dubbed CDMA-less. I have had worlds better reception and net speeds on the OP6T than i ever did on my Axon 7. (sd 820, similar experience to the 10). I say go for it man. You wont be disappointed. OP6t is a verizon certified device. The only places i have issues are BFE places that only have 3g. Hope that helps.

My experience with the 6T on Verizon has been really good. Solid reception in New York's capital district (upstate, but not rural), and activation was painless when I got the phone about a month ago.
Some worries about getting service in rural areas when we travel this summer, as in the past I'd only get 3G sometimes, but I'm going to throw my old phone in the bag just in case.
With Verizon's revised 3G sunset coming at the end of the year, I'd imagine they'll need to do something about the fringe areas that are 3G only, or risk disenfranchising the people who live there.
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My experience with the 6T on Verizon has been really good. Solid reception in New York's capital district (upstate, but not rural), and activation was painless when I got the phone about a month ago.
Some worries about getting service in rural areas when we travel this summer, as in the past I'd only get 3G sometimes, but I'm going to throw my old phone in the bag just in case.
With Verizon's revised 3G sunset coming at the end of the year, I'd imagine they'll need to do something about the fringe areas that are 3G only, or risk disenfranchising the people who live there.
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I'm in the NY tristate area and we have a cabin upstate in the Catskills all of the carrier's other then VZW have no service. My Samsung $10+ has only 3G while my OP 6T has 4G. Very happy with reception on (VZW) my 6T.

if I use T-Mobile in slot one and Sprint in slot 2 I get lte on both Sims but been playing with prl and apns to double the Mbps you have to fastboot erase modemst1 and 2 there's thread on it same way I've done every phone to sim unlock it motoz make sure you use right apn and slot you'll be good

I've had my 6T for about a month now, on Verizon, and it's been great so far. I work in Boston and live just outside the city and have not had any issues at all.

@kend0g whats good man, yea cmon over, the water is fine here. no CDMA, no problem.

kend0g said:
Hey guys I need a new phone, currently I'm on an HTC 10, I can't switch my service provider right now. But I'm thinking about getting a oneplus 6t. From what I've read it will work on Verizons LTE network. Can anyone that is using this on Verizon right now let me know what you think/what your experience has been so far please???
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I've had mine since release. No issues.
It's certified compatible. Just make sure you call support and have CDMA_Less added as a feature.
The phone will only do LTE, which I have not found to be an issue.
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ecompton59 said:
if I use T-Mobile in slot one and Sprint in slot 2 I get lte on both Sims but been playing with prl and apns to double the Mbps you have to fastboot erase modemst1 and 2 there's thread on it same way I've done every phone to sim unlock it motoz make sure you use right apn and slot you'll be good
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Wrong thread. This is use on Verizon.

6T on Verizon around Tampa Bay, FL and other areas in FL have been pretty good. NO worse than any other phone I've had with them on the network. Really think their service is overhyped.
My wife/daugters have iPhones, our reception is identical always no matter where we are if that helps. If their service sucks, so does mine, and when good, so is mine.

kitcostantino said:
When you get a One Plus 6t activated on Verizon, they convert your sim card (digitally, so perhaps account would be more accurate) to what is dubbed CDMA-less.....OP6t is a verizon certified device.
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Question:
Does Volte work on the OnePlus 6T on Verizon?
I really like the specs on the phone but I would need to have simultaneous voice and data in order for me to consider purchasing it to use it on Verizon.
Thanks

classic757 said:
Question:
Does Volte work on the OnePlus 6T on Verizon?
I really like the specs on the phone but I would need to have simultaneous voice and data in order for me to consider purchasing it to use it on Verizon.
Thanks
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Yes volte works I just switched to Verizon yesterday from T-Mobile. Cdma-less was even enabled automatically.

bladestonez said:
Yes volte works I just switched to Verizon yesterday from T-Mobile. Cdma-less was even enabled automatically.
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Okay great.
Glad to know.
Thanks.
Now did you purchase your 6T from T-Mobile and had it when you switched to Verizon?
I plan to buy mine directly from OnePlus unless the T-Mobile version is unlocked to work on any carrier including Verizon, then I might consider getting it from T-Mobile.

classic757 said:
Okay great.
Glad to know.
Thanks.
Now did you purchase your 6T from T-Mobile and had it when you switched to Verizon?
I plan to buy mine directly from OnePlus unless the T-Mobile version is unlocked to work on any carrier including Verizon, then I might consider getting it from T-Mobile.
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I see your first question was answered already. The theory is that the T-Mobile versions are fully unlockable/convertible to the unlocked version. I say theory BC while I've known people who have done such (feel free to chime in @Harry44 ) and say it is fully converted, there is no guarantee that will remain the case forever. But AFAIK at present that is possible. I bought mine unlocked for fear of tmob versions having something to block Verizon.

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I bought mine unlocked for fear of tmob versions having something to block Verizon.
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My sentiments exactly.
Thanks.

classic757 said:
Okay great.
Glad to know.
Thanks.
Now did you purchase your 6T from T-Mobile and had it when you switched to Verizon?
I plan to buy mine directly from OnePlus unless the T-Mobile version is unlocked to work on any carrier including Verizon, then I might consider getting it from T-Mobile.
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I bought mine from OnePlus as well. I only purchase unlocked phones with no carrier tag attached.

I just switched to Verizon from TMobile. I was surprised when I saw that it can only use LTE. The prepaid plans are only on LTE anyways so it works out. The service is great! I had issues setting up an account due to their system saying that my phone isn't eligible for receiving SMS messages. The chat agents have created a ticket for it. I had to put my sim in my wife's iPhone in order to create an account. I am traveling this summer and no 3g is a little scary but honestly, an area where there is no Verizon service is just as fast as TMobile full bars of LTE. Overall 5stars from me (Dallas area).

Does 7T Pro McLaren support standalone 5g mode (no LTE)?

Summary: The SIM card that came in the box for McLaren 5g says TM with 4 numbers. Can I use 5G standalone mode? Read on for why this matters.
I'm using an old SIM, and I recently get a text message from TMO that I should upgrade my sim, pointing to http://t-mo.co/5GSIM
But on that page is says the following:
R15: If you see R15 in pink on the SIM card, you're all set!
TMXXXX: If you see TM followed by 4 numbers, you need to switch to the new SIM that came with your device.

It's fully capable of it with the x55 modem. However, T-Mobile owns the permission for this phone to get on SA 5G. Will need an update.
C-NET Article: "T-mobiles-5g-network-upgrade-means-better-indoor-and-rural-coverage" states:
(sorry no link, jr member)
Regarding SA 5G "T-Mobile will also add support for the new network to the Galaxy Note 10 Plus 5G and OnePlus 7T Pro 5G McLaren that were released in 2019 via a software update, however no timeline has yet been given for when that update will arrive. "
That being said, T-Mobile is explicit. You must have the R15 SIM, a capable SA 5G device and be in a SA coverage area.
Get your R15 SIM. Be ready.

eidsvik said:
That being said, T-Mobile is explicit. You must have the R15 SIM, a capable SA 5G device and be in a SA coverage area.
Get your R15 SIM. Be ready.
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Fair enough. I stopped by a T-Mobile store and got a new R15 SIM. So now to wait for the upgrade. Or maybe just buy a new device lol.

https://prepaid.t-mobile.com/browse-phones
i ordered and got r15 sim last week. far right on prepaid phones page "2020 sim"
since i didn't order a plan it cost $10 w/ free 2 day shipping. anxiously awaiting update.

The McLaren doesn't have SA yet, but there's some FCC docs showing that it's coming soon. I'll probably have to get one of these R15 sims as well.

norwoodesteel said:
https://prepaid.t-mobile.com/browse-phones
i ordered and got r15 sim last week. far right on prepaid phones page "2020 sim"
since i didn't order a plan it cost $10 w/ free 2 day shipping. anxiously awaiting update.
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Thanks for the info. I know we'll get the update eventually. Hadn't heard of the new SIM card requirements. Just ordered mine for $10. Hope they send the new kind. Ordered the 2020 one.

For what it's worth. I went and got the new sim, for free, after work when that text message was sent by t-mobile. My biggest complaint about this phone is that my texting, whether I use the stock app, or install google messages and try to go RCS, has always had issues, especially over WiFi. But after the sim swap, I have ZERO texting issues, it all works exactly as advertised, RCS through Google messages as well. I believe my previous sim card had been around since I bought my Note 4. So for anyone have texting issues especially, get the new sim card, especially with 5G SA on the horizon for this phone. I just took my wife's S20+ over to get the sim upgrade last night, and now it natively connects to 5G NR. Impressive.
That being said, I'm probably going to jump ship to either the pixel 4a 5G of pixel 5, but purchasing one from google for that precious unlockable bootloader. It's been a year since I upgraded from my 6T, and I really miss having viper4audio in the car for streaming.
mmarcz

I called T-Mobile customer service, requested the R15 SIM.
First call the rep asked..."do you get 5G on your phone right now?" "yeah then you don't need one of these, you got what you needed in an update that was pushed out to your phone"
Second call...took 15 minutes explaining to the rep what I wanted, supervisor involved, had to read them my IMEI, etc. Said they mailed it. Nothing arrived.
Third attempt, walked right into a T-Mobile store. They knew exactly. In and out 10 mins, no charge.
I brought my 8 5G in with me to avoid any guff. Of course that worked.
I popped it into my 7TP McLaren, it hasn't left it since.
It's so clean. No more slow texts, no weird service pauses as it figured out how to get from LTE to 5G to Wi-Fi and back.
Happy, but I want to know WHY on that part there.

""this is an initial update for new 5G stand alone technology" new update today

Upgrading to the new r15 sim also fixed my wifi calling and texting since I switched to the mclaren. Holy crap, I only upgraded for the 5g

The 39 update was released yesterday and enabled SA. I confirmed it works by using the debug menu to force my phone into NR mode, unfortunately the result of a speed test were pretty disappointing.
On a more positive note, the LTE speeds at my house are faster than ever. ?

I've got no sim after this update....guess I'm stopping by the T-Mobile OTW home.

"5G" lol. I had a "Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G Plus" for a few months and more than once I found my phone with no internet. I had perfect 5G signal, and no internet. I rebooted, nothing. I then disabled 5G, forcing it to 4G-LTE, and suddenly I had internet. 5G uses different towers, and apparently they can lose internet and the phone doesn't realize it. The only reason T-Mobile, and every other carrier, is pushing 5G is to get the congestion off their 4G-LTE towers. But I digress. At this point, due to my 5G issues in the area, I don't care for 5G one way or another. I eventually couldn't stand the Galaxy S20 any longer so I sold it and bought this OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren 5G used on ebay. I could care less about its 5G capabilities. Nice to have but not a deal-breaker for me. I was going to hold onto this 7T Pro 5G for a few months and then try and pickup a used 8T Pro, but apparently that's not happening. I don't know if I should get an 8T or not, I may just see if there's a 9 Pro. I don't mind waiting, this 7T Pro 5G smokes the Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G in terms of everyday usability.

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"5G" lol. I had a "Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G Plus" for a few months and more than once I found my phone with no internet. I had perfect 5G signal, and no internet. I rebooted, nothing. I then disabled 5G, forcing it to 4G-LTE, and suddenly I had internet. 5G uses different towers, and apparently they can lose internet and the phone doesn't realize it. The only reason T-Mobile, and every other carrier, is pushing 5G is to get the congestion off their 4G-LTE towers. But I digress. At this point, due to my 5G issues in the area, I don't care for 5G one way or another. I eventually couldn't stand the Galaxy S20 any longer so I sold it and bought this OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren 5G used on ebay. I could care less about its 5G capabilities. Nice to have but not a deal-breaker for me. I was going to hold onto this 7T Pro 5G for a few months and then try and pickup a used 8T Pro, but apparently that's not happening. I don't know if I should get an 8T or not, I may just see if there's a 9 Pro. I don't mind waiting, this 7T Pro 5G smokes the Galaxy S20 Ultra 5G in terms of everyday usability.
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That's the way Verizon's mmWave 5G works (which is insanely fast but also completely useless because it only works outdoors while walking and needs towers every 500 to 1000 feet which will only be installed in the most crowded sections of the most crowded metro areas). T-Mobile uses same towers for 3G/4G LTE/5G NR as they all use the same frequencies (600 to 2500 MHz). Not 60 Ghz garbage that can't travel more than quarter mile or even pass through glass or your hand. That's also why T-Mobile was able to roll out low-band 600MHz 5G to virtually the entire country in such a short time. Because it can travel over 10 miles from tower to indoor phone. Now T-Mobile is working on adding more bandwidth to low-band 5G along with rolling out the mid-band 2500Mhz 5G which will be where the real speed is. It's already out in 300+ cities and will be 1000+ by end of year. That's where the speed will be. 300mbps+ to start. And it'll work indoors and while driving too lol. And my phone is all ready, willing, and able

Anyone know how do you check if you have a newer sim for the 5g SA support?

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Anyone know how do you check if you have a newer sim for the 5g SA support?
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https://www.tmonews.com/2020/09/t-mobile-standalone-5g-r15-sim-card-customers/

What about mvno users on mint or metro?

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What about mvno users on mint or metro?
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No new sim, no SA 5G support. You can test it out yourself by dialing *#*#4636#*#* (has to be from the default OnePlus dialer/phone app while set as default dialer app in settings, apps, default apps -- Won't work with Google Dialer/phone app.), click phone information, and set preferred network type to NR only.
If you get data (with WiFi off), then SA 5G is working. If you get no signal, SA 5G isn't working. However, calls will not work in SA 5G (NR only mode) with WiFi calling off because the X55 modem doesn't support VoNR. So once you test, set it back to how it was so VoLTE calls start working again. To my knowledge, no phones have the X60 modem yet, so no device can access VoNR/make calls when set to NR Only (wifi calling solves this but that requires wifi)
This was a life saver a few days ago in the aftermath of Hurricane Zeta. 95%+ of the entire NOLA metro area and major surrounding suburbs were without power. And the 4G LTE network was so slow it might have been off from hundreds of thousands of people all trying to use it at the same time (and so was NSA 5G because it depends on 4G LTE to set up a connection and also some signalling to make it actually work -- I had full bars on both). I forced it to "NR Only"/SA 5G and my data speeds went from too slow to browse the internet, much less stream video, to well over 110 mbps. Didn't care phone calls weren't working at that point haha.
SA 5G for the win!! :good: