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I bought my Galaxy Note on Nov. 27. It sucks that I already have problems with the USB. This is the first time I bought an unlocked cellphone and I think it will be the last. The sting of having a problem with a new tech. and not knowing how to fix it is not worth for me I think.
What are your experiences in early adopting to tech.?
I just got mine yesterday. Hope nothing mess up. How you mess up the usb port?
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So where is the difference with a locked or an unlocked model ?
If you have a problem you will have to send it in for warranty either way.
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How you mess up the usb port?
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Don't know to be honest.
From what I've been reading on the internet, the USB dock connector on Samsung phones/tablets seems to have more problems than usual.
I'm reading similar stories on Samsung devices:
phone/tablet not detected when plugged to the PC
phone think it's charging when it's not plugged in
device charging when only turned off
USB storage doesn't work
friedje said:
So where is the difference with a locked or an unlocked model ?
If you have a problem you will have to send it in for warranty either way.
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From what I gathered, unlocked means you're device can be used with any compatible carrier/service provider. Locked phones are usually supplied by the carrier/service provider and can only be used with that carrier/service provider. Hope this helps.
I'm not really sure about warranty. I'm from Canada and the Galaxy Note has been announced but not yet released. I called Samsung Canada today and they don't support it yet.
My question to Galaxy Note owners in North America: How have you dealt with problems related to devices not yet released in your country?
From what I gathered, unlocked means you're device can be used with any compatible carrier/service provider. Locked phones are usually supplied by the carrier/service provider and can only be used with that carrier/service provider. Hope this helps.
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That's not what he was referring to. Whether you buy a locked or unlocked model, your hardware is the same. So your chances of having a problem with a locked model are the same as an unlocked one
andruyd said:
I bought my Galaxy Note on Nov. 27. It sucks that I already have problems with the USB. This is the first time I bought an unlocked cellphone and I think it will be the last. The sting of having a problem with a new tech. and not knowing how to fix it is not worth for me I think.
What are your experiences in early adopting to tech.?
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The problem might be moisture put it in a bag with some dry rice overnight... It might help
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And take out the battery and leave the back open
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I've been an early adopter for both the Note and S2 and neither devices have the issue you're describing
Also if you're charging the device through the USB port and the device is using up more juice than the 500mA, then it will not charge quick enough to replenish the battery.
I don't know about AT&T. But with T-Mobile, if I had a problem with my phone, I could just drive over to a T-Mobile store, tell them my issue, and they'll swap it out or give me a nice loaner phone while they send it in for repairs. They make it really easy.
If you buy an unlocked phone, it seems like there would be a lot more hassle having to deal with the manufacture directly.
Though my friend had to deal with HTC and he said they were extremely awesome, cross-shipped him a replacement, paid for postage both ways, etc. Not sure how awesome Samsung is.
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Also if you're charging the device through the USB port and the device is using up more juice than the 500mA, then it will not charge quick enough to replenish the battery.
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That's normal behavior.
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The problem might be moisture put it in a bag with some dry rice overnight... It might help
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And if that doesn't work you could have a curry with the rice the next day! ;-)
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andruyd said:
Don't know to be honest.
From what I've been reading on the internet, the USB dock connector on Samsung phones/tablets seems to have more problems than usual.
I'm reading similar stories on Samsung devices:
phone/tablet not detected when plugged to the PC
phone think it's charging when it's not plugged in
device charging when only turned off
USB storage doesn't work
From what I gathered, unlocked means you're device can be used with any compatible carrier/service provider. Locked phones are usually supplied by the carrier/service provider and can only be used with that carrier/service provider. Hope this helps.
I'm not really sure about warranty. I'm from Canada and the Galaxy Note has been announced but not yet released. I called Samsung Canada today and they don't support it yet.
My question to Galaxy Note owners in North America: How have you dealt with problems related to devices not yet released in your country?
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I bought mine from Expansys, they said if something happen, send it to them and they will take care of the warranty. I think they send it out to Europe for repair.
Bought mine early and not one single issue. Not sure why others have so many issues. Same with my evo and evo3d, many had issues and I had none. Lucky I guess
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Bummer. I have had and or have three Samsung phones and have not had any issues with the usb.
Do you use the OEM cable? I only use Samsung OEM chargers and cables for my phones. I know they are standardized, but I worry about other brands not fitting as well. I have like 6 sets. They are like $3.50 on Amazon. I would contact Samsung in your country to see if they will help you. Although they are not required to, they may help you anyway. It is worth a try!
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of course it is
some people still do not understand it
I gave back mine.
the biggest problems for me:
speed, ram, heat, design flaws.
Speed....
This screen needs a processor with twice the speed of the Exynos 4xxx.
The S II is so popular because it can take everything you give it and show it to you at minimum 50 frames per second.... 50-60 frames per second is optimum for the human eye. Let us call it S II fluid awesomeness.
The Note has to move much more pixels, so it has half the speed of the SII, particularly on graphically intensive stuff (not invented by me, benchmarks prove it). So we get 25 frames per second...
25 frames is like a TV.... the minimum acceptable... when the Note has a problem to keep up this overclocked speed it goes below 25 fps and it becomes unacceptable for people coming from the SII like me.
The Note deserved a better processor, but I guess this privilege is reserved to the SIII. And Samsung probably thought 25 frames per second is good enough for tv so people will be fine with it. But we are talking about a high end phone here and we now want SII fluid awesomeness on a high end phone. Ok, not we... I want SII fluid awesomeness on a Note.
Our madame moderator will hate this but I write it anyway...
The Note Lte is 1/3 (33%) slower then the N7000.... so it goes below 25 frames and sometimes even touches 9 frames per second on very intensive graphics.
Imagine.... and I complain about the N7000...
Does it mean it is terrible? No.... it is ok....
But also the Acer Liquid Metal is ok.... if you are satisfied with stuff that is "ok"... and it costs just 150$.
Ram...
This screen needs more ram then 1 GB. It is unacceptable that I take the latest flagship and have to use tricks used with crappy low ram phones (launcher, freezing etc) because the screen and the stylus support eat up so much ram.
heat...
This is the same processor of the SII.... the normal speed is 1.2 ghz... they are overclocking it... what happens when you overclock? heat... too much heat... also the screen seems to generate too much heat.
What happens when the heat reaches an unacceptable level.... the phone slows down... to protect itself... and all this heat is uncomfortable for me.... 50+ C
design flaws....
Samsung has become careless or is overworked by creating so many different devices. They are overstretching themselves, maybe...
Fact is, the camera is not protected... every idiot notices it... why?
They tried to fix it with the free flip cover that is different and protects the camera... but the flip cover itself is a failed product... everybody loves it but it simply falls apart. This is quality?
Samsung you can do this with one of your many Galaxy Ace, W, Y, M, R.... but not with a flagship that costs like a Iphone 4s.
The back cover.... makes strange sounds... at least mine...
The screen.... a mess of production problems with a lot of unsatisfied customers and we need a developer like supercurio to fix the flawed color reproduction.... the lockscreen when in black is obscene... come on....
The USB cable... not even this they can do right.... who had the idea to make it glossy and slippery so that I do not manage to pull it out?
Does a glossy cable look cool... yes... does it work... NO!
The most important problems for me are Speed and Ram...
And I know there are a mountain of new products coming.... with quad core... 5 times faster gpu... these will be good enough to power this beast of a screen.
I have posted some info today on some of the devices that are coming but also this got deleted by some very kind Moderator....
I just say N8000 N8010 N8013.... look it up...
And the SIII is coming... with Exynos 5xxx... dual core with 2 ghz...
Twice the speed of cpu and 5 times the speed of gpu...
Who knows when it is coming because they have so much in the pipeline that is not yet globally distributed... so i suspect they are holding back new stuff to not ruin the marketing of the older stuff that is getting sold just now in some markets.
A lot of minor versions of old stuff gets out too so it is a mess to sell old stuff, sub-versions of old stuff and local versions of all the stuff... canadian versions, multiple US versions, multiple qualities of chinese versions...
How you sell all the old stuff if you come out with SIII? This is their problem...
And a lot more is coming.... look back at how much came out in 2011... there is no reason to expect less in 2012.... I hope they do something about production quality... at least for the flagship devices.
For the moment.... the best phone on the Android market still is a product that came out one year ago and that is still popular like nothing else.
People want it and with all devices going down in price, the S II went up in price.
You can now buy a Atrix, Galaxy R, Evo 3D or LG Optimus 3D for around 250 euros. The SII is still there at 430...
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......And the SIII is coming... with Exynos 5xxx... dual core with 2 ghz...
Twice the speed of cpu and 5 times the speed of gpu...
Who knows when it is coming because they have so much in the pipeline that is not yet globally distributed... so i suspect they are holding back new stuff to not ruin the marketing of the older stuff that is getting sold just now in some markets.
A lot of minor versions of old stuff gets out too so it is a mess to sell old stuff, sub-versions of old stuff and local versions of all the stuff... canadian versions, multiple US versions, multiple qualities of chinese versions...
How you sell all the old stuff if you come out with SIII? This is their problem.......
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Yeah I agree with most of this^^, the product releases are too close and they show off everything early and make consumers wait for a long time (that the next big thing is right around the corner).
On the topic of early adopting, I once bought the latest and greatest for my gaming PC around 2007-2008 (can't remember to be honest; cost me $3500). I'm still happy with it and typing this on that machine right now. Back then, I bought it for PC gaming but now I just use it for consuming media and not so GPU instensive games. Going to try and push it for 2 more years with Windows 8.
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Nice rant... but I disagree with everything you were trying to say.
This screen needs a processor with twice the speed of the Exynos 4xxx.
The S II is so popular because it can take everything you give it and show it to you at minimum 50 frames per second.... 50-60 frames per second is optimum for the human eye. Let us call it S II fluid awesomeness.
The Note has to move much more pixels, so it has half the speed of the SII, particularly on graphically intensive stuff (not invented by me, benchmarks prove it). So we get 25 frames per second...
25 frames is like a TV.... the minimum acceptable... when the Note has a problem to keep up this overclocked speed it goes below 25 fps and it becomes unacceptable for people coming from the SII like me.
The Note deserved a better processor, but I guess this privilege is reserved to the SIII. And Samsung probably thought 25 frames per second is good enough for tv so people will be fine with it. But we are talking about a high end phone here and we now want SII fluid awesomeness on a high end phone. Ok, not we... I want SII fluid awesomeness on a Note.
Our madame moderator will hate this but I write it anyway...
The Note Lte is 1/3 (33%) slower then the N7000.... so it goes below 25 frames and sometimes even touches 9 frames per second on very intensive graphics.
Imagine.... and I complain about the N7000...
Does it mean it is terrible? No.... it is ok....
But also the Acer Liquid Metal is ok.... if you are satisfied with stuff that is "ok"... and it costs just 150$.
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This is beyond crap....the processor and GPU are more than fine for N7000(Galaxy Nexus does fine with a 1.2ghz ARM Cortex-A9(same as N7000) and a lower end GPU), it just happens that Samsung sucks at making software for taking advantage of their hardware properly. If proper GPU acceleration would be present(Like it should be in ICS), this thing would fly out of the gate(It actually does in the CM9 Alpha rom, even though that thing has hardly any GPU acceleration).
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This is beyond crap....the processor and GPU are more than fine for N7000(Galaxy Nexus does fine with a 1.2ghz ARM Cortex-A9(same as N7000) and a lower end GPU), it just happens that Samsung sucks at making software for taking advantage of their hardware properly. If proper GPU acceleration would be present(Like it should be in ICS), this thing would fly out of the gate(It actually does in the CM9 Alpha rom, even though that thing has hardly any GPU acceleration).
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you mean like the fact that ICS has a native GPU acceleration builtin and GB doesn't?
http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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By all means, make up your mind based upon a blog's first-hand experience with a prerelease ROM and kernel.
Just sayin'.
And also phone is connected to charger
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http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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Perhaps you would be more enlightened/discouraged by reading about the exact same issue with the S6 HERE
In both cases, these are both devices running "bragging" ROM versions for MWC and also running a synthetic benchmark that is often derided as "non-representative" of reality.
Either way, I wouldn't be tempted to draw any conclusions yet. Early adopters pay over the odds in financial and ROM stability/performance terms.
odd move basing your buying decision on a phone thats being used constantly pre released and being charged at the same dam time smh
And all this is based on the fact that some would-be tech journalist from Romania tried to do some benchmark tests on a phone with non-final software on it and that has been on the charger for two-three days continuously, with its screen lit up most of the time and that has been played with by hundreds of people ... Let's be patient a little and wait for a test when the whole package is actually finished and shipped out for real reviews.
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http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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I had the same msg on my note 3... notting to worry about.. if your phone is at 57C, you'll see that msg in antututu if you want to benchmark
This should pretty much sum all this bafoonery up
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http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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Read this, kind of lengthy but very well written.
http://semiaccurate.com/2015/03/02/behind-fake-qualcomm-snapdragon-810-overheating-rumors/
Applesexual said:
http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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Even if this is true would rather have a heating phone than a glass back phone with no microsd and running sampoop software that never updates still waiting for lollipop on my Note 4 worse decision ever trying samsung again I've never had a good experience with samsung u can have all the nice specs but you need software to back it up all htc's are currently updated to lollipop and should we talk about the bootloader easily unlockable does anyone remember the fact it leaked samsung paid people to give bad reviews on phones they have alot of money to throw around best is to try the phone yourself thats what the 15 day return policy is for
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Even if this is true would rather have a heating phone than a glass back phone with no microsd and running sampoop software that never updates still waiting for lollipop on my Note 4 worse decision ever trying samsung again I've never had a good experience with samsung u can have all the nice specs but you need software to back it up all htc's are currently updated to lollipop and should we talk about the bootloader easily unlockable does anyone remember the fact it leaked samsung paid people to give bad reviews on phones they have alot of money to throw around best is to try the phone yourself thats what the 15 day return policy is for
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Couldn't make sense of your point as there was no punctuation...I have tired head now.
Even if so, samsung would be the last company I turn my head to if I leave HTC (after apple that is, but goes without saying)
I thought this was a joke. The same post is in the Galaxy S6 forum.
Anywoot, simple solution to overheating. Custom kernel and undervolting.
watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqez7e5JTcU running benchmarks side by side and no overheating warning popped up on either phone.
Overheating on a demo phone that probably has the screen on for hours on end and is tethered into a charger...yeah that makes sense
Yes indeed.. Antutu already alarms when your phone is at 58C... Screen and charger always on, a lot of people play with it and run benchmarks.. not so strange it's going to be around 60C and antutu gives a warning..
Even the S6 will do exactly the same in that situation. I've had it also with my Note 3, when on charger
Not a big fan of Samsung's take on Android (TW) and I know benchmark results are not always reflective of real world performance. However, these results look pretty darn good for the S6 devices. Seems like some good optimization work has gone into these devices. S6 is pushing a lot more pixels.. don't know how the tests are affected by that.
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Not a big fan of Samsung's take on Android (TW) and I know benchmark results are not always reflective of real world performance. However, these results look pretty darn good for the S6 devices. Seems like some good optimization work has gone into these devices. S6 is pushing a lot more pixels.. don't know how the tests are affected by that.
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Optimization... On Samsung! Pufffth. It was evident in previous cases that the Note 3 had cheated on bench marks. I'm not saying HTC hasn't cheated either, but just something to realize that benchmarks aren't everything and can be easily fabricated with some from of performance setting (i.e. higher clocks or performance governor).
My insights below. Maybe biased in the eyes of Samsung
After owning both the One M7 and S5 - I had a better experience on the m7 and the screen on the Samsung is very thin that it broke after I dropped it on the ground. I personally see a lot of people with broken digitizer's on the bus and this is probably why. In my case, my next phone will either be a Sony or a HTC. If you guys are wondering if warranty protects against this, it doesn't unless the phone's digitizer doesn't respond at all that means I'm not covered by warranty at all. Something to realize when buying any from of warranty.
that is inevitable, cortex A57 is a big and hot core
Since the z5 premium was announced, I've seen a lot of hate on the note 5 owners.
Seems the general consensus that people only but the Samsung flagships, in particular the note phones because they're popular. I've seen vast comments along the lines of, bet note 5 owners regret their purchase now.
They're forgetting the note phones use great amoled screens and have the spen.
As far as I'm aware the note series is the only android phone to nativaly muliscreen also
Anybody care to explain why all the note 5 hate?
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There are 2 possible explanations for this thread:
1- You're looking for trouble
2- You're immature enough to even think about creating such pointless, wasted space on XDA servers.
Please work on your social skills. In case you didn't know, everybody is entitled to their opinion, the way you vacate that opinion shows the degree of sophistication you have. Responding to those that have no sophistication puts you right at their level.
Why this sh!tty thread?
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polish_pat said:
There are 2 possible explanations for this thread:
1- You're looking for trouble
2- You're immature enough to even think about creating such pointless, wasted space on XDA servers.
Please work on your social skills. In case you didn't know, everybody is entitled to their opinion, the way you vacate that opinion shows the degree of sophistication you have. Responding to those that have no sophistication puts you right at their level.
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Yes I get that they're entitled, I'm just trying to figure out of all the phones why the Samsung phones get the most negative comments on. I've owned Sony Z phones and own an iPhone 6. They're all nice phones, in particular I like the amoled screen, spen, and Samsung exclusive features.
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Oh why the lock?
GreeleyXda said:
No trouble, just voicing my opinion after seeing all the comments on z5 videos and post that say, "bet the note 5 owners regret their purchase"
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This is not the way to voice your opinion. This is just fishing for hostile responses, which you're already getting
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This is not the way to voice your opinion. This is just fishing for hostile responses, which you're already getting
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My bad, I've attempted to re-write it but it's probably to late.
Anyways what's your opinion on why Samsung gets picked on the most?
The z5 has other OEMs to compete with like HTC and Apple (I believe those are the 2 compared most to sony's build quality)
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My bad, I've attempted to re-write it but it's probably to late.
Anyways what's your opinion on why Samsung gets picked on the most?
The z5 has other OEMs to compete with like HTC and Apple (I believe those are the 2 compared most to sony's build quality)
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The bigger you are, the easier it is to pick on you. I am happy with my choices, but out of all OEMs, i think Samsung offers consistently good products even if they each have their flaws. No matter what they do, they cannot make everybody happy, thankfully on the Android ecosystem, there will never be a lack of choice. To each their own
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The bigger you are, the easier it is to pick on you. I am happy with my choices, but out of all OEMs, i think Samsung offers consistently good products even if they each have their flaws. No matter what they do, they cannot make everybody happy, thankfully on the Android ecosystem, there will never be a lack of choice. To each their own
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True guess they are one of the bigger companies. Im super happy with the new build quality of the note 5/s6.
Was shocked about how many people were displeased with the no sd card, coming from an s6 edge. I also own a iPhone 6 so memory card there either. I was pretty happy with just big internal storage. No idea why they cut the note off at 64gb.
what's your opinion on 4k phones?
With the Z phones battery life, I'm not shocked Sony is the first phone company going at it. Plus they've had 4k tvs out for a bit now.
Personally I think why one might not notice the need/difference for 4k, they'll grow into it like they did 1440p phones. I can't imagine people streaming 4k video or storing much of it on there phone tho. Although I've read the z5 can handle up to 200gb sd cards (pretty pricey probably)
To anybody reading would you want 4k on the next note?
I think Samsung should handle the ram fiasco first and then maybe try to incorporate sd cards again since it seems like a lot of people weren't happy with the loss of extendable memory
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As far as I'm aware the note series is the only android phone to nativaly muliscreen also
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You are very misinformed.
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You are very misinformed.
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I'd change misinformed to Unaware but sure lol
Which phones? I'd love to check them out to see how it compares to Samsung's multiwindow.
My dream phone can have 4 windows open nativaly like the note pro, since Verizon is anti-root.
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I'd change misinformed to Unaware but sure lol
Which phones? I'd love to check them out to see how it compares to Samsung's multiwindow.
My dream phone can have 4 windows open nativaly like the note pro, since Verizon is anti-root.
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LG has it too, but it's not as good as what Samsung has. Samsung's Multi-Window is better than the competition. There's Multi Window in the Android M Developer Preview on the Nexus 5/6, but it's experimental at the moment... Meaning it's not ready yet. It probably won't be on the official Android Marshmallow release though.
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what's your opinion on 4k phones?
With the Z phones battery life, I'm not shocked Sony is the first phone company going at it. Plus they've had 4k tvs out for a bit now.
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Samsung is the only company that can afford a slow but steady "Apple like" evolution of their phones. Other OEMs have to resort to making phones that have special features that stand out in order to attract client. All OEMs except for Samsung are currently losing money so they have to come up with ways to say "our phone was the first that did X, or had X" Sometimes it works out in their favor, sometimes not. A bit like the ultra-pixel 4MP camera on HTC One. They were marketing that features as if it were unique to their flagship and most importantly, a camera game changer. Turned out, it was good for shooting nice low res pictures in low light, but it was overall one of the worst camera ever at the time.
As for the 4K screen, sure, it's nice, but battery technology isn't here to justify a 4K screen without a considerable drop in battery life and overall performance. Samsung has been working on a super thin flexible high capacity battery that will revolutionize battery life on smartphones, but until then, these features will just be a way to impress others...i'm not even sure you'll see that much of a difference between our screens and a 4K screen.
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Since the z5 premium was announced, I've seen a lot of hate on the note 5 owners.
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Sony's mobile division is losing $1M a day. The pricing on the Z5P makes the Note 5 look like a bargain. Can you imagine the impact a 4K screen will have on battery life; especially when at 8+" away from the screen you won't be able to tell the difference from QHD? I wish Sony well but if I were to bet I'd say their mobile division will be sold within a year. Their entire business (with the exception of PS) is in trouble and they can't carry a $365M annual loss forever. Three new high priced phones aimed at a shrinking Western market niche (high end smartphones) isn't going to get them anywhere. Just like the gorgeous M7 that set a design standard when it was released couldn't help HTC who's on their death bed. If I were to look at another Android brand it would be LG. They, like Samsung, have a deep pocketed conglomerate parent and they actually make money in mobile. It was $1 per phone last quarter but it's better than what everyone else (but Samsung) are experiencing.
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Sony's mobile division is losing $1M a day. The pricing on the Z5P makes the Note 5 look like a bargain. Can you imagine the impact a 4K screen will have on battery life; especially when at 8+" away from the screen you won't be able to tell the difference from QHD? I wish Sony well but if I were to bet I'd say their mobile division will be sold within a year. Their entire business (with the exception of PS) is in trouble and they can't carry a $365M annual loss forever. Three new high priced phones aimed at a shrinking Western market niche (high end smartphones) isn't going to get them anywhere. Just like the gorgeous M7 that set a design standard when it was released couldn't help HTC who's on their death bed. If I were to look at another Android brand it would be LG. They, like Samsung, have a deep pocketed conglomerate parent and they actually make money in mobile. It was $1 per phone last quarter but it's better than what everyone else (but Samsung) are experiencing.
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I think it's £699 Right? So that's probably about the cost of an iPhone 6+ 128gb in usd. For 1/4 of the memory. ouch
Like I said before I'm with you, plus won't the battery usage being higher for video since it's an lcd screen? They're claiming 2 day battery but idk
Yes I was reading with all the mid-tier phones being so good, these higher priced phones are losing sales. If they lose their mobile division how will they offer the free year of playstation plus for buying their latest Xperia Z
I'm so confused on Samsung's financial situation, I thought they were doing bad with the s5/note 4 so they made these radical changes to try and recoup their mobile business
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Samsung is the only company that can afford a slow but steady "Apple like" evolution of their phones. Other OEMs have to resort to making phones that have special features that stand out in order to attract client. All OEMs except for Samsung are currently losing money so they have to come up with ways to say "our phone was the first that did X, or had X" Sometimes it works out in their favor, sometimes not. A bit like the ultra-pixel 4MP camera on HTC One. They were marketing that features as if it were unique to their flagship and most importantly, a camera game changer. Turned out, it was good for shooting nice low res pictures in low light, but it was overall one of the worst camera ever at the time.
As for the 4K screen, sure, it's nice, but battery technology isn't here to justify a 4K screen without a considerable drop in battery life and overall performance. Samsung has been working on a super thin flexible high capacity battery that will revolutionize battery life on smartphones, but until then, these features will just be a way to impress others...i'm not even sure you'll see that much of a difference between our screens and a 4K screen.
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Samsung throws so many things out at once, idk if I would call that slow. Heck they even have tizen phones.
I would agree but Sonys claiming 2 day battery life.
The thing is to see the difference, you need something to showcase it off. I'm not exactly sure what sony is going to do to show off 4k. I've owned the tab s, s6, and now note 5, and deepening my connection 1440p video is already hard to handle lol.
GreeleyXda said:
I'm so confused on Samsung's financial situation, I thought they were doing bad with the s5/note 4 so they made these radical changes to try and recoup their mobile business
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Samsung Mobile has made $5B in profit through July and the parent company has $50B of cash in the bank. The market's changed dramatically and assuming they regain their footing they'll be just fine.
good thread.
I've been considering whether to wait for the Z5 or take the plunge and buy note 5 now.
The price is a factor as Z5 is more expensive but mind you it does look brilliant better then note 5.
4k screen is amazing amazing
I would have bought note 5 in an instance where it not for TW and i do prefer sony UI.
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Samsung Mobile has made $5B in profit through July and the parent company has $50B of cash in the bank. The market's changed dramatically and assuming they regain their footing they'll be just fine.
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Does Samsung mobile include sales of screens and cpu chips to other companies? if so that would be more believable since they did really good with thief chips in addition to Qualcomm having problems with their chip.
riz157 said:
good thread.
I've been considering whether to wait for the Z5 or take the plunge and buy note 5 now.
The price is a factor as Z5 is more expensive but mind you it does look brilliant better then note 5.
4k screen is amazing amazing
I would have bought note 5 in an instance where it not for TW and i do prefer sony UI.
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Definately sounds like you would enjoy the Z5 more. Maybe you could get it on a payment plan, if it seems too expensive.
If you're into rooting, I would check out the z5 forum first. On one of the older Xperia Zs unlocking the boot loader affected the camera software, idk if they ever found away around that since I don't frequent over their too often.
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Does Samsung mobile include sales of screens and cpu chips to other companies?
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Nope. That division is Samsung Semiconductor. The number I shared is purely for mobile devices. They sold $22B in mobile devices last quarter alone.
BarryH_GEG said:
Sony's mobile division is losing $1M a day. The pricing on the Z5P makes the Note 5 look like a bargain. Can you imagine the impact a 4K screen will have on battery life; especially when at 8+" away from the screen you won't be able to tell the difference from QHD? I wish Sony well but if I were to bet I'd say their mobile division will be sold within a year. Their entire business (with the exception of PS) is in trouble and they can't carry a $365M annual loss forever. Three new high priced phones aimed at a shrinking Western market niche (high end smartphones) isn't going to get them anywhere. Just like the gorgeous M7 that set a design standard when it was released couldn't help HTC who's on their death bed. If I were to look at another Android brand it would be LG. They, like Samsung, have a deep pocketed conglomerate parent and they actually make money in mobile. It was $1 per phone last quarter but it's better than what everyone else (but Samsung) are experiencing.
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Where have you seen pricing for it? Sony has not released pricing for the device yet.
Hello guys. İ want to buy note 4.
Whixh edition do you suggest?
Sdragon or exynos?
And can you tell me pros and cons for phone? İ read reviews buy i want real users feedback.
Do you suggest it for today? 2016 april.
Yes, I completely suggest it for today, in this time, especially the price is pretty cheap now.
Pros for me:
- Great camera in daylight, above average in low light
- Incredible display
- Superb call quality
- Very good built, though the metal edges will scratch in no time, but that's metal for you
- TouchWiz is okay-ish. Not bad, but not that good either, but with MM released things will get better I am sure
- Excellent battery backup, with MM
Cons:
- Samsung's shoddy update policy for different variants
- Camera in low light, can't compete in that level with nowadays phones like S7, Note 5 etc., but its still close
- Rear mounting speaker!
- Screen to body ratio
- Meh Fingerprint scanner
PS: You can go for either model, Exy or SD, both have very good support from XDA. I heard that Exynos is better for gaming, while SD is better for overall optimisation and battery life, can't be sure about that myself as I only have one variant, SD.
İ didnt understand update part. What about front camera?
İ am using nexus 5 , is it worth upgrade? And how much it cost now?
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Yes, I completely suggest it for today, in this time, especially the price is pretty cheap now.
Pros for me:
- Great camera in daylight, above average in low light
- Incredible display
- Superb call quality
- Very good built, though the metal edges will scratch in no time, but that's metal for you
- TouchWiz is okay-ish. Not bad, but not that good either, but with MM released things will get better I am sure
- Excellent battery backup, with MM
Cons:
- Samsung's shoddy update policy for different variants
- Camera in low light, can't compete in that level with nowadays phones like S7, Note 5 etc., but its still close
- Rear mounting speaker!
- Screen to body ratio
- Meh Fingerprint scanner
PS: You can go for either model, Exy or SD, both have very good support from XDA. I heard that Exynos is better for gaming, while SD is better for overall optimisation and battery life, can't be sure about that myself as I only have one variant, SD.
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İ didnt understand update part. What about front camera?
İ am using nexus 5 , is it worth upgrade? And how much it cost now?
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I don't use Front cam at all mate, so can't comment. Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned, I can't even put both the phones in same sentence, no offence.
Note 4 32 gigs cost around 32-33k INR here, but very often it sells around 30k or something.
Then i will go for note 4. And there is on more same price phone galaxy s6. İ dont know s6 is good too or not. İ hrard battery life is bad on s6
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I don't use Front cam at all mate, so can't comment. Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned, I can't even put both the phones in same sentence, no offence.
Note 4 32 gigs cost around 32-33k INR here, but very often it sells around 30k or something.
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Both snap and exynos are powerfull. But in fact, through a lot of benchmark, exynos is better than snap, but just alittle bit. I'm also use the exynos version too. If you want to play game, should buy snap version. And if u want something for work, exynos is great.
P/s: one more thing u should no, exynos version is cooler than snap, snap is too hot after using for a while, and the battery of exynos version also better than snap version. Hope that you buy the phone suit for u.
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I don't use Front cam at all mate, so can't comment. Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned, I can't even put both the phones in same sentence, no offence.
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Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned
What do you mean exactly?? because im a happy owner of a nexus 5 for 2plus years now and i can tell you for sure that i wont replace this crude diamond not even for a future s15 edge or anything.
Now for our friend's question. as u can see i allready own a nexus 5 like you, and i bought a N910c (thats the exynos) about 2 months ago. I DIDNT got this as a replacement for nexus,as the matter of fact i use it without sim. anyway my previous samsung device was back in 2012 with the NOTE 10.1 wifi... well after this i swore to myself that i wont buy a samsung again. But here i am after 4 years breaking that promise with spending 400euros to a piece of.......... imnot going to analyse this, do a better research to have lower chances to regret a purchase.(not like me)
My personal advice is to do your self a favor and dont buy this device or perhaps any mobile device from that company. -not for the hardware but for the software.-
and for your info nexus 5 runs way smoother than the exynos. maybe the snapdragon would be a better choice if u insist buying the note
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Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned
What do you mean exactly?? because im a happy owner of a nexus 5 for 2plus years now and i can tell you for sure that i wont replace this crude diamond not even for a future s15 edge or anything.
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Shouldn't bother replying to a person who would prefer a decade old phone over a newer one, but still replying just so someone "new" and "uninformed" can actually see what Nexus 5 really is.
By nightmarish hardware I meant:
- It is one of the most awfully built device out there. Kudos LG.
- The call quality of the phone is awful, as well as the reception. I have never had a phone with as terrible reception as that, and please don't even bother wasting your time by saying I live in an industrial area or something where reception is poor, rather its very opposite.
- The display. No comments.
- The camera. No comments.
- The external speakerphone. No comments.
Shall I go on?
Nexus is Nexus because of its SOFTWARE ONLY, period, and no exception is Nexus 5.
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Nexus 5? That's one of the hardware nightmarish phone I have ever owned
What do you mean exactly?? because im a happy owner of a nexus 5 for 2plus years now and i can tell you for sure that i wont replace this crude diamond not even for a future s15 edge or anything.
Now for our friend's question. as u can see i allready own a nexus 5 like you, and i bought a N910c (thats the exynos) about 2 months ago. I DIDNT got this as a replacement for nexus,as the matter of fact i use it without sim. anyway my previous samsung device was back in 2012 with the NOTE 10.1 wifi... well after this i swore to myself that i wont buy a samsung again. But here i am after 4 years breaking that promise with spending 400euros to a piece of.......... imnot going to analyse this, do a better research to have lower chances to regret a purchase.(not like me)
My personal advice is to do your self a favor and dont buy this device or perhaps any mobile device from that company. -not for the hardware but for the software.-
and for your info nexus 5 runs way smoother than the exynos. maybe the snapdragon would be a better choice if u insist buying the note
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My nexus 5 is in very nad condition (glass broken, frame got big cracks, back cover damaged) battery life is 1.2-2 hours of on screen. Camera is very bad. İ cant take proper pictures.
And yes İt is smoother
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Both snap and exynos are powerfull. But in fact, through a lot of benchmark, exynos is better than snap, but just alittle bit. I'm also use the exynos version too. If you want to play game, should buy snap version. And if u want something for work, exynos is great.
P/s: one more thing u should no, exynos version is cooler than snap, snap is too hot after using for a while, and the battery of exynos version also better than snap version. Hope that you buy the phone suit for u.
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İ use phone taking photos, heavy use of messenger and facebook, whatsapp, chrome. Sometimes gaming.
Actually my nexus 5 will stay . i wont sell it.
İ will buy new note 4 exynos or whatever for daily use. Nexus 5 will be always like testing roms improving developing skills
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İ use phone taking photos, heavy use of messenger and facebook, whatsapp, chrome. Sometimes gaming.
Actually my nexus 5 will stay . i wont sell it.
İ will buy new note 4 exynos or whatever for daily use. Nexus 5 will be always like testing roms improving developing skills
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Note 4 Exynos will be the best choice you can have, it's better than Snap one. ^^
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Hello guys. İ want to buy note 4.
Whixh edition do you suggest?
Sdragon or exynos?.
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I would say you should wait until the Note 6 or 7. Or whatever comes next.
This one is still very expensive, and will not get any support whatsoever from now on.
It's a good device, NOW, but it costs so much you could just buy a Nexus 6P for example.
Or a Z5, M10, whatever. You get the point.
BUT, if you are some fanboy, here goes nothing...
Sdragon:
+ Faster 3D performance, better for gaming basically.
+ More roms/kernels. (though none of them will be as complete as stock)
Exynos:
+ Better battery life
+ Faster 2D performance
+ Faster performance (single, multi core)
- Games have crap framerates, see below.
I picked Exynos because I rarely play games.
If you check comparisons on Youtube, it beats Snapdragon by miles in any task, except 3D.
Framerate: Like Asphalt got... 20 or something it's real console like (eww). Modern Combat is also around 25 or so.
Too bad games on Android cannot scale down to 1080p or 720p, there is absolutely no point in having such a huge resolution for a game.
Other points - affects all Note 4:
Screen protectors are hard to find, you have to buy these "full display protectors", because of the curved glass. Just buy it on eBay and you are good.
Do NOT spend too much on cases. I bought Spigen, I bought all kinds of fancy cases. And guess what? The cheapest eBay case is the best. Not even kidding.
Metal cases, even if ONLY the frame is metal/aluminium, WILL BLOCK GPS signal. Not kidding.
When buying a case, make sure it protects the camera bulge.
Cases should have a WIDE left hole on bottom, because the microphone there can be on two positions. Mine is on the right. (SM-N910C)
No updates. MM is the last, we all know that. Even MM will take months to arrive to people.
There is no Theme Store or any new features that came with S6 and so on.
Battery life is not the best, it's around 1 days.
Bonus, you can use extended batteries. But then you lose the thinness of the device, which helps a lot when you carry it around. I have a ZL 10k mAh pack with the belt clip, it's a hassle to use.
Rooting is out of question if you want warranty. And all my Samsung Galaxy/Note devices had issues within the two first years, so I suggest you don't do it. Or get some nice insurance on your device, that might cover you. Or just save up some money, lol.
The list: S3 LTE, Note 2, S4, S4 Mini, Note 2014 10.1, Note 4.
One more thing. You may be able to buy the Snapdragon variant much cheaper. It's around 470$ here, but it's from the "gray market". It's boxed, new, but they only offer repairs by themselves, like you don't send it back to Samsung, but to the shop you bought it from.
Compared to this, the Exynos is 700$ or so. But this one comes with 2 years of original Samsung warranty.
Again, it's not the best solution, but there is a good chance you will not need a warranty repair.
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I would say you should wait until the Note 6 or 7. Or whatever comes next.
This one is still very expensive, and will not get any support whatsoever from now on.
It's a good device, NOW, but it costs so much you could just buy a Nexus 6P for example.
Or a Z5, M10, whatever. You get the point.
BUT, if you are some fanboy, here goes nothing...
Sdragon:
+ Faster 3D performance, better for gaming basically.
+ More roms/kernels. (though none of them will be as complete as stock)
Exynos:
+ Better battery life
+ Faster 2D performance
+ Faster performance (single, multi core)
- Games have crap framerates, see below.
I picked Exynos because I rarely play games.
If you check comparisons on Youtube, it beats Snapdragon by miles in any task, except 3D.
Framerate: Like Asphalt got... 20 or something it's real console like (eww). Modern Combat is also around 25 or so.
Too bad games on Android cannot scale down to 1080p or 720p, there is absolutely no point in having such a huge resolution for a game.
Other points - affects all Note 4:
Screen protectors are hard to find, you have to buy these "full display protectors", because of the curved glass. Just buy it on eBay and you are good.
Do NOT spend too much on cases. I bought Spigen, I bought all kinds of fancy cases. And guess what? The cheapest eBay case is the best. Not even kidding.
Metal cases, even if ONLY the frame is metal/aluminium, WILL BLOCK GPS signal. Not kidding.
When buying a case, make sure it protects the camera bulge.
Cases should have a WIDE left hole on bottom, because the microphone there can be on two positions. Mine is on the right. (SM-N910C)
No updates. MM is the last, we all know that. Even MM will take months to arrive to people.
There is no Theme Store or any new features that came with S6 and so on.
Battery life is not the best, it's around 1 days.
Bonus, you can use extended batteries. But then you lose the thinness of the device, which helps a lot when you carry it around. I have a ZL 10k mAh pack with the belt clip, it's a hassle to use.
Rooting is out of question if you want warranty. And all my Samsung Galaxy/Note devices had issues within the two first years, so I suggest you don't do it. Or get some nice insurance on your device, that might cover you. Or just save up some money, lol.
The list: S3 LTE, Note 2, S4, S4 Mini, Note 2014 10.1, Note 4.
One more thing. You may be able to buy the Snapdragon variant much cheaper. It's around 470$ here, but it's from the "gray market". It's boxed, new, but they only offer repairs by themselves, like you don't send it back to Samsung, but to the shop you bought it from.
Compared to this, the Exynos is 700$ or so. But this one comes with 2 years of original Samsung warranty.
Again, it's not the best solution, but there is a good chance you will not need a warranty repair.
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Whoa thanks for information. Look note 4 exynos is 430 dollar for us i think. İ cant wait for note 6 7 because they will be more expensive. And there is one more option to buy galaxy s6 (same price) . i hate sony devices same for htc.
My love is for nexus and samsung. 6p is expensive too.
Right now i got this choices(i am limited on money) (i will buy phone in july)
Xiaomi redmi note 3 pro 3gb
Galaxy Note 4 exynos
Galaxy s6
İ need battery peeformance , camera, multitasking . i dont care about games anyway (i got nexus 5 i can play games on them)
İ dont care about roms too.
Ao which choice should i take?
Ehmedhemidli said:
Whoa thanks for information.
Right now i got this choices(i am limited on money) (i will buy phone in july)
Xiaomi redmi note 3 pro 3gb
Galaxy Note 4 exynos
Galaxy s6
Ao which choice should i take?
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Well, update wise, anything is better than Samsung. (Just check Sammobile's comment section.)
Uhm... I would not buy a Xiaomi because of the bloated interface. That's the problem I have with Lenovo and other Chinese/cheap eastern devices. Like Lenovo put 4gb of ram into their device, made it very affordable, and killed it with a megabighuge UI. I don't know why.
What about the LG G4? (G5 is way too expensive.)
Flagships there receive updates for quite some time, and it's got a removable battery.
Just asking. Don't know about the SD808 performance.
By the way Sony used SD801 Pro in their Z3 series and that thing flies. It feels faster than my Exynos Note 4.
Again if you don't mind the no updates, you might be fine with the Note 4.
Remember years are A LOT of time in the smartphone world, especially if it's not a Nexus that gets updates, can be rooted, can be modded tons of ways.
There are a few roms for Exynos as well if you check the forum - mostly backported Note 5 ones, but I can't remember when was the time I ever used a stable rom. Maybe CM9 with the stable release - was kinda stable. But that's it. To me, it's a big letdown.
Like I am on the street, I have to make an emergency call, and I can't make calls.
I am on the road, need to make a quick map check, but can't because there is no GPS atm.
Want to browse some website real quick, it would be real important, can't because the mobile data is down currently.
And these happened at the most inconvenient times.
Ps.: If you are not real tech savvy, like my father, he is fine on KK. There is a newer update for his device, but on LL the call recorder crashed sometimes, phone lagged, etc. But he does not care, you know, he is totally fine with KK.
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Well, update wise, anything is better than Samsung. (Just check Sammobile's comment section.)
Uhm... I would not buy a Xiaomi because of the bloated interface. That's the problem I have with Lenovo and other Chinese/cheap eastern devices. Like Lenovo put 4gb of ram into their device, made it very affordable, and killed it with a megabighuge UI. I don't know why.
What about the LG G4? (G5 is way too expensive.)
Flagships there receive updates for quite some time, and it's got a removable battery.
Just asking. Don't know about the SD808 performance.
By the way Sony used SD801 Pro in their Z3 series and that thing flies. It feels faster than my Exynos Note 4.
Again if you don't mind the no updates, you might be fine with the Note 4.
Remember years are A LOT of time in the smartphone world, especially if it's not a Nexus that gets updates, can be rooted, can be modded tons of ways.
There are a few roms for Exynos as well if you check the forum - mostly backported Note 5 ones, but I can't remember when was the time I ever used a stable rom. Maybe CM9 with the stable release - was kinda stable. But that's it. To me, it's a big letdown.
Like I am on the street, I have to make an emergency call, and I can't make calls.
I am on the road, need to make a quick map check, but can't because there is no GPS atm.
Want to browse some website real quick, it would be real important, can't because the mobile data is down currently.
And these happened at the most inconvenient times.
Ps.: If you are not real tech savvy, like my father, he is fine on KK. There is a newer update for his device, but on LL the call recorder crashed sometimes, phone lagged, etc. But he does not care, you know, he is totally fine with KK.
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İ am confused.
Look. İ need bigger screen.
1 day full battery life (i charge it night, leave gome morning come back home night)
Camera quality
Multitasking without lag
İ dont care bloats or kitkat lollipop small bugs.
There is no phone with bugs anyway
Ehmedhemidli said:
İ am confused.
Look. İ need bigger screen.
1 day full battery life (i charge it night, leave gome morning come back home night)
Camera quality
Multitasking without lag
İ dont care bloats or kitkat lollipop small bugs.
There is no phone with bugs anyway
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Probably get a note 4 exynos and don't upgrade it, stay at kitkat 4.4.x
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Probably get a note 4 exynos and don't upgrade it, stay at kitkat 4.4.x
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Thanks. That will do
Which phone will be more long lasting in terms that it will not slow down after Android or Interface (Samsung Experience, One UI) upgrades?
I'm looking between these 2 phones for the one that will have a better CHANCE for lasting 5 years being as quick and as “battery life good” AS POSSIBLE.
I think all of us know that the OEMs make our phones slower by patches, upgrades with attached algorithms to slowly month after month (so we couldn’t notice) shorten the battery life, slower the speed and make battery consumption bigger with sole intention for us to buy a new model next year or in the next 2 years.
BTW I don’t need the Pen and I don’t play any games and I don’t need a super good cam. EDIT: no rooting and no custom romming for me on that device for ever.
If I don't need the Pen why to bother with Note you may ask?
Well, I hope that Note being the business phone is going to be treated better by Samsung in the above terms than a Galaxy S phone, but maybe it’s the other way around?
What do You think?
No Android phone will last you 5 years without feeling crippled.
Besides that, you don't sound like you need a Note at all and the Note doesn't get any specific treatment from Samsung, it has older components, it is less popular, it is worse in literally everything by being a generation behind.
I don't know your prices, but if price is not an issue then get the S10+ and stop worrying for at least 3 years, I'm easily getting 12-14h SoT whenever I want to, the battery is great and we still have to get plenty of updates.
Corv0 said:
No Android phone will last you 5 years without feeling crippled.
Besides that, you don't sound like you need a Note at all and the Note doesn't get any specific treatment from Samsung, it has older components, it is less popular, it is worse in literally everything by being a generation behind.
I don't know your prices, but if price is not an issue then get the S10+ and stop worrying for at least 3 years, I'm easily getting 12-14h SoT whenever I want to, the battery is great and we still have to get plenty of updates.
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Thank You
I value Your opinion but during years I saw plenty of comments and sellers claiming that Note is better cause aimed for business. The comparison was always like this :Galaxy S(gen) with Note(gen-1)
From the beginning till Note8 it the above scenario Note was always more expensive on premiere day.
But this year S10+ prices was 26 USD more than Note's 9 on premiere day - sad to say (for Note fans) maybe somethings wrong is about to go down like no more busyness phone treatment for Note series.
But I still do believe that Note is somehow treated better but after that price reversal I wanted toread what You think.
What do You think about that dangerous Pie+oneUI update (dangerous because look what it did to my S8)? - that's in Note 9 case.
PLEASE USERS tell me what You think of all of this???
androidbadboy said:
Thank You
I value Your opinion but during years I saw plenty of comments and sellers claiming that Note is better cause aimed for business. The comparison was always like this :Galaxy S(gen) with Note(gen-1)
From the beginning till Note8 it the above scenario Note was always more expensive on premiere day.
But this year S10+ prices was 26 USD more than Note's 9 on premiere day - sad to say (for Note fans) maybe somethings wrong is about to go down like no more busyness phone treatment for Note series.
But I still do believe that Note is somehow treated better but after that price reversal I wanted toread what You think.
What do You think about that dangerous Pie+oneUI update (dangerous because look what it did to my S8)? - that's in Note 9 case.
PLEASE USERS tell me what You think of all of this???
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What happened to your S8?
Corv0 said:
What happened to your S8?
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When I updated trough OTA from Android 8.0 with Samsung Exp. to Android 9 Pie + One UI the pros: battery consumption went at least 3 times(!!!) the cons: S8 started lagging, microfreezing, isntt as smooth and speedy as its used to be, despite:
- very low amount of foreign apps that I installed since buying
- frequent restarts of phone as recommended
- phone has never been rooter or custom rommed
I use a phone as a main work tool, replaced a lap top a long time ago.
The note has one advantage, in meetings you are writing on your phone and no one bats an eye lid, use an S9 and use your finger to tap on it you are stared at horribly, like you are the devil
As for this deliberate slowing down of phones, well it's massively exaggerated imo and it's obvious older phones with less memory and slower CPUs will struggle with large updates. This is now a myth imo, relevant at some point but you are still using an Iphone3 are you? You move on and with 8gb memory and fast CPU it will still be going strong before you can say S15 yes please
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I use a phone as a main work tool, replaced a lap top a long time ago.
The not has one advantage, in meetings you are writing on your phone and no one bats an eye lid, use an S9 and use your finger to tap on it you are stared at horribly, like you are the devil
As for this deliberate slowing down of phones, well it's massively exaggerated imo and it's obvious older phones with less memory and slower CPUs will struggle with large updates. This is now a myth imo, relevant at some point but you are still using an Iphone3 are you? You move on and with 8gb memory and fast CPU it will still be going strong before you can say S15 yes please
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+! thanks points! for You!
The info about Note and S9 and eye-stare will be helpful.
How about when I use a S9 with a stylus pen instead of a finger?
As for deliberate slowing down pf phones..... I like Your attitude although I don't agree with your point of view cause when You really look at the bigger picture not only from Samsung's stand point but other brands, Google as Android manufactuer, the early 1900's story of bulbs, modern cars, everything and you return later form this wide picture to Samsung''s perspective with all that's been happening everywhere a person that is well oriented in mobile stuff and can even do some tests by himself can CLEARly see that phones are deliberately being slown down. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge for instance could handle Android Pie with ease as well much more next ones if it weren't for that sad practice - of course AS LONG AS there would be no new hardware required new software feature(s) without which the Android future release would loose it's main event special funcionality.
However. I would like to hear what You and other have to say about it, cause I can see that people here make very interesting points and not often a major myth is being discovered thanks to our conversations.
Please enjoy and come in everyone
BTW is norma S10 without PLUS even a contender for Note9?
Kind people of XDA hellp me make a decision please. Write what you think
Ohh I forgot to mention this will be a snack for these users that want 2 phones S10+ and Note9, here it is:
due to debut of S10 and finished preorder selling (mainly due to that) and perhaps the Huawei danger of P30/P30 Pro Samsung decided to:
- lower the price of Note 9,
- sell it with payback in some areas and/or other bonuses
- all color versions are acceptable
- the normal model with 128 GB of internal storage is 100% under the obove rules I don't know if the special ones are.
Can You help me pick up a winner in this fight. Every reply is welcome. Every argument is needed! Please respond!
I have both devices. Battery better on the S10+. Screen better. Speed faster. Unlocks quicker and easier for me, lighter, thinner, sound is much louder , camera gas the wife mode, selfie is better. The only thing I am [not] missing is the s pen.
I had the note 9, and just got my s10 plus yesterday. There is absolutely no comparison camera wise. My note 9 was horrendous, and in any sunny out door setting it would blow out the highlights and over expose. The hdr function was **** too. S10 plus is the best phone I've ever used
I have both also but Ive only had the S10 plus for a few days so I cant make a detailed comparison yet.
What I will say is the ultrasonic fingerprint scanner on the S10 needs more development..its terrible.
Hardly ever unlocks the first try and is slow when it does unlock. My Note 9 unlocks the first time every time and is instant.
Im sure sammy will improve the function with software updates but even after a few days the S10 plus is annoying me due to this.
I also miss being able to use face unlock on the S10 due to having to wear surgical gloves at work it is handy at tines, they really should have left the retina scanner on the device.
Unlocking your phone is a basic function and should work flawlessly, its just not there yet on the S10 IMO.
@ekerbuddyeker @sstanton86 @force70
You folks literaly came from thy sky for me with your outstanding answers (You all get +1 T of course).
I am now in a serious peril: S10+ costs the same from the day of pre-order, Note9's price is still significant but it dropped to 90% of it's launch price plus it has a payback promotion making the price drop to the 80% of Note9's premiere price.
I also found a shop with the last new Note8s for 51% launch price of Note9.
I'm so confused now, what would you advice me in this situation?
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@[email protected]@force70
You folks literaly came from thy sky for me with your outstanding answers (You all get +1 T of course).
I am now in a serious peril: S10+ costs the same from the day of pre-order, Note9's price is still significant but it dropped to 90% of it's launch price plus it has a payback promotion making the price drop to the 80% of Note9's premiere price.
I also found a shop with the last new Note8s for 51% launch price of Note9.
I'm so confused now, what would you advice me in this situation?
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Id rule out the the note 8, i had an S8 plus but the fingerprint scanner was in an absolutely idiotic place beside the camera, Note 8 isn't much better. Also it does not have stereo speakers.
For me at the moment I prefer my Note 9 still to the S10 plus and if in a few weeks I'm still not liking the S10 plus ill get rid of it.
In favour of the S10 plus is the camera set up, louder speakers and it is more comfortable in hand. Newer hardware as well of course.
I mean you really cannot go wrong with either and Im nitpicking the S10 plus really lol.
force70 said:
Id rule out the the note 8, i had an S8 plus but the fingerprint scanner was in an absolutely idiotic place beside the camera, Note 8 isn't much better. Also it does not have stereo speakers.
For me at the moment I prefer my Note 9 still to the S10 plus and if in a few weeks I'm still not liking the S10 plus ill get rid of it.
In favour of the S10 plus is the camera set up, louder speakers and it is more comfortable in hand. Newer hardware as well of course.
I mean you really cannot go wrong with either and Im nitpicking the S10 plus really lol.
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"nitpicking" - maybe you thought of not picking.
The reason I mentioned Note8 is that I just want to expriance that phone for a while and probably sell it after 3 months or who knows, everyone claims that I could get addicted to Note and never buy anything else....
I will test a bunch of flagships from many brands like Huawei, Samsung, LG, Xiaomi, OnePlus, Oppo and then decide which is the one for me. I bet it could be a Note vs. S10+ vs. a ..... Xiaomi (!!!!)
androidbadboy said:
Ohh I forgot to mention this will be a snack for these users that want 2 phones S10+ and Note9, here it is:
due to debut of S10 and finished preorder selling (mainly due to that) and perhaps the Huawei danger of P30/P30 Pro Samsung decided to:
- lower the price of Note 9,
- sell it with payback in some areas and/or other bonuses
- all color versions are acceptable
- the normal model with 128 GB of internal storage is 100% under the obove rules I don't know if the special ones are.
Can You help me pick up a winner in this fight. Every reply is welcome. Every argument is needed! Please respond!
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Well man the Note 9 is now 7 months old and it is about £300 cheaper than the S10+
I don't think any 2018 Exynos device is good for that price, the SoC was just badly made, they tried to fix it with Pie but there's not much left to be done.
If we rule out the Note 9 for it being an older device and overall a worse deal, the S10+ wins for:
Thinner
Better cameras
Better power management
Better thermals
Subjectively better design
Superior panel and HDR+
SoC that isn't bad at all, and has plenty of software improvement room
More RAM on base models
Will soon get dedicated night mode and 25W charging if you care about that
Could be one of the last flagships with a headphone jack
AI implementation to adapt the phone to your usage
Gorilla Glass 6
Safer fingerprint authentication that can't be physically hacked with glue
You can get it for £800 as a student
I was very tempted to buy the Note 9 when it came out, right now it feels like a stupid choice, I'd feel bad for owning it knowing I gave up on all those improvements from the next generation.
Mobile phones can be seen as a remote extension of our nervous system due to all the things they allow us to do better and faster, I would never cheap out on such day to day element, the Note 9 isn't bad but it feels wrong to me.
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Well man the Note 9 is now 7 months old and it is about £300 cheaper than the S10+
I don't think any 2018 Exynos device is good for that price, the SoC was just badly made, they tried to fix it with Pie but there's not much left to be done.
If we rule out the Note 9 for it being an older device and overall a worse deal, the S10+ wins for:
Thinner
Better cameras
Better power management
Better thermals
Subjectively better design
Superior panel and HDR+
SoC that isn't bad at all, and has plenty of software improvement room
More RAM on base models
Will soon get dedicated night mode and 25W charging if you care about that
Could be one of the last flagships with a headphone jack
AI implementation to adapt the phone to your usage
Gorilla Glass 6
Safer fingerprint authentication that can't be physically hacked with glue
You can get it for £800 as a student
I was very tempted to buy the Note 9 when it came out, right now it feels like a stupid choice, I'd feel bad for owning it knowing I gave up on all those improvements from the next generation.
Mobile phones can be seen as a remote extension of our nervous system due to all the things they allow us to do better and faster, I would never cheap out on such day to day element, the Note 9 isn't bad but it feels wrong to me.
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+ 1 Thanks!
1. It's amazing how we agree on the importance of a smartphone. I always tell the people who don't want to "waste" their money for a flagship that the phone is like a third hand, you need to have it as good as possible.
2. I feel being now really drawn more and more after each reply in this S10+ Forum.
3. So You think that Note9 has a bad Exynos?
4. How about Note8 that I could have for 51% of the launch prize of Note9?
androidbadboy said:
+ 1 Thanks!
1. It's amazing how we agree on the importance of a smartphone. I always tell the people who don't want to "waste" their money for a flagship that the phone is like a third hand, you need to have it as good as possible.
2. I feel being now really drawn more and more after each reply in this S10+ Forum.
3. So You think that Note9 has a bad Exynos?
4. How about Note8 that I could have for 51% of the launch prize of Note9?
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That Exynos is quite bad, yeah.
The Note 8 on the other hand is not just slower than that Exynos, sure it's cheaper but they easily get burn-in, I saw many S8 and Note 8 screens having burned notification and nav bars, sometimes the whole facebook interface was there :laugh: it's also reaching end of life regarding major software updates, Pie is its last stop.
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That Exynos is quite bad, yeah.
The Note 8 on the other hand is not just slower than that Exynos, sure it's cheaper but they easily get burn-in, I saw many S8 and Note 8 screens having burned notification and nav bars, sometimes the whole facebook interface was there :laugh: it's also reaching end of life regarding major software updates, Pie is its last stop.
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1. Since Note's are business phones I think Samsung will give them longer time for security patches and probably +1 more Android update in compare with the Galaxy S series.
2. Note's are for businessman and You might think that they will change it every September for a new one cause they can simply afford it but I strangely enough they somehow get used to one and stay on him. I witnessed a guy that came down to the mall's electronic shop with the best Samsung device ever (Note 4) and with sad face told the sellers that he thinks it's time to change his Note4 for a newer Note because ........ damn I can't remember that cause I was so shocked.
3. Business man don't really care about having the best or latest phone. The don't have the teens or women's addiction to shopping and having everything new.
4. Businessman have a lot more on their heads than worry about a phone and I think that Samsung realizes it and that's why a Note would win in terms of longevity with a Galaxy S.
5. I am the kind of man that will not get screen burned out - too long story. Just believe me that this argument is not for me.
6.. Now it's up to which Note shall I buy. Cause S10+ will be bought eventually during 12to24 months.
7. Note8 is so cheap that I could make my dreams come true and test every brand like I mentioned a couple of posts before.
8. Please don't give up and try to fight for Note9 or Note8 or against them., cause if I don't buy any of them I could quicker roll over the competition phones by saving the money that I have for Note8/Note9.