I bought my Galaxy Note on Nov. 27. It sucks that I already have problems with the USB. This is the first time I bought an unlocked cellphone and I think it will be the last. The sting of having a problem with a new tech. and not knowing how to fix it is not worth for me I think.
What are your experiences in early adopting to tech.?
I just got mine yesterday. Hope nothing mess up. How you mess up the usb port?
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So where is the difference with a locked or an unlocked model ?
If you have a problem you will have to send it in for warranty either way.
vjoom said:
How you mess up the usb port?
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Don't know to be honest.
From what I've been reading on the internet, the USB dock connector on Samsung phones/tablets seems to have more problems than usual.
I'm reading similar stories on Samsung devices:
phone/tablet not detected when plugged to the PC
phone think it's charging when it's not plugged in
device charging when only turned off
USB storage doesn't work
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So where is the difference with a locked or an unlocked model ?
If you have a problem you will have to send it in for warranty either way.
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From what I gathered, unlocked means you're device can be used with any compatible carrier/service provider. Locked phones are usually supplied by the carrier/service provider and can only be used with that carrier/service provider. Hope this helps.
I'm not really sure about warranty. I'm from Canada and the Galaxy Note has been announced but not yet released. I called Samsung Canada today and they don't support it yet.
My question to Galaxy Note owners in North America: How have you dealt with problems related to devices not yet released in your country?
From what I gathered, unlocked means you're device can be used with any compatible carrier/service provider. Locked phones are usually supplied by the carrier/service provider and can only be used with that carrier/service provider. Hope this helps.
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That's not what he was referring to. Whether you buy a locked or unlocked model, your hardware is the same. So your chances of having a problem with a locked model are the same as an unlocked one
andruyd said:
I bought my Galaxy Note on Nov. 27. It sucks that I already have problems with the USB. This is the first time I bought an unlocked cellphone and I think it will be the last. The sting of having a problem with a new tech. and not knowing how to fix it is not worth for me I think.
What are your experiences in early adopting to tech.?
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The problem might be moisture put it in a bag with some dry rice overnight... It might help
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And take out the battery and leave the back open
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I've been an early adopter for both the Note and S2 and neither devices have the issue you're describing
Also if you're charging the device through the USB port and the device is using up more juice than the 500mA, then it will not charge quick enough to replenish the battery.
I don't know about AT&T. But with T-Mobile, if I had a problem with my phone, I could just drive over to a T-Mobile store, tell them my issue, and they'll swap it out or give me a nice loaner phone while they send it in for repairs. They make it really easy.
If you buy an unlocked phone, it seems like there would be a lot more hassle having to deal with the manufacture directly.
Though my friend had to deal with HTC and he said they were extremely awesome, cross-shipped him a replacement, paid for postage both ways, etc. Not sure how awesome Samsung is.
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Also if you're charging the device through the USB port and the device is using up more juice than the 500mA, then it will not charge quick enough to replenish the battery.
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That's normal behavior.
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The problem might be moisture put it in a bag with some dry rice overnight... It might help
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And if that doesn't work you could have a curry with the rice the next day! ;-)
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andruyd said:
Don't know to be honest.
From what I've been reading on the internet, the USB dock connector on Samsung phones/tablets seems to have more problems than usual.
I'm reading similar stories on Samsung devices:
phone/tablet not detected when plugged to the PC
phone think it's charging when it's not plugged in
device charging when only turned off
USB storage doesn't work
From what I gathered, unlocked means you're device can be used with any compatible carrier/service provider. Locked phones are usually supplied by the carrier/service provider and can only be used with that carrier/service provider. Hope this helps.
I'm not really sure about warranty. I'm from Canada and the Galaxy Note has been announced but not yet released. I called Samsung Canada today and they don't support it yet.
My question to Galaxy Note owners in North America: How have you dealt with problems related to devices not yet released in your country?
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I bought mine from Expansys, they said if something happen, send it to them and they will take care of the warranty. I think they send it out to Europe for repair.
Bought mine early and not one single issue. Not sure why others have so many issues. Same with my evo and evo3d, many had issues and I had none. Lucky I guess
From the giant: Galaxy Note
Bummer. I have had and or have three Samsung phones and have not had any issues with the usb.
Do you use the OEM cable? I only use Samsung OEM chargers and cables for my phones. I know they are standardized, but I worry about other brands not fitting as well. I have like 6 sets. They are like $3.50 on Amazon. I would contact Samsung in your country to see if they will help you. Although they are not required to, they may help you anyway. It is worth a try!
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of course it is
some people still do not understand it
I gave back mine.
the biggest problems for me:
speed, ram, heat, design flaws.
Speed....
This screen needs a processor with twice the speed of the Exynos 4xxx.
The S II is so popular because it can take everything you give it and show it to you at minimum 50 frames per second.... 50-60 frames per second is optimum for the human eye. Let us call it S II fluid awesomeness.
The Note has to move much more pixels, so it has half the speed of the SII, particularly on graphically intensive stuff (not invented by me, benchmarks prove it). So we get 25 frames per second...
25 frames is like a TV.... the minimum acceptable... when the Note has a problem to keep up this overclocked speed it goes below 25 fps and it becomes unacceptable for people coming from the SII like me.
The Note deserved a better processor, but I guess this privilege is reserved to the SIII. And Samsung probably thought 25 frames per second is good enough for tv so people will be fine with it. But we are talking about a high end phone here and we now want SII fluid awesomeness on a high end phone. Ok, not we... I want SII fluid awesomeness on a Note.
Our madame moderator will hate this but I write it anyway...
The Note Lte is 1/3 (33%) slower then the N7000.... so it goes below 25 frames and sometimes even touches 9 frames per second on very intensive graphics.
Imagine.... and I complain about the N7000...
Does it mean it is terrible? No.... it is ok....
But also the Acer Liquid Metal is ok.... if you are satisfied with stuff that is "ok"... and it costs just 150$.
Ram...
This screen needs more ram then 1 GB. It is unacceptable that I take the latest flagship and have to use tricks used with crappy low ram phones (launcher, freezing etc) because the screen and the stylus support eat up so much ram.
heat...
This is the same processor of the SII.... the normal speed is 1.2 ghz... they are overclocking it... what happens when you overclock? heat... too much heat... also the screen seems to generate too much heat.
What happens when the heat reaches an unacceptable level.... the phone slows down... to protect itself... and all this heat is uncomfortable for me.... 50+ C
design flaws....
Samsung has become careless or is overworked by creating so many different devices. They are overstretching themselves, maybe...
Fact is, the camera is not protected... every idiot notices it... why?
They tried to fix it with the free flip cover that is different and protects the camera... but the flip cover itself is a failed product... everybody loves it but it simply falls apart. This is quality?
Samsung you can do this with one of your many Galaxy Ace, W, Y, M, R.... but not with a flagship that costs like a Iphone 4s.
The back cover.... makes strange sounds... at least mine...
The screen.... a mess of production problems with a lot of unsatisfied customers and we need a developer like supercurio to fix the flawed color reproduction.... the lockscreen when in black is obscene... come on....
The USB cable... not even this they can do right.... who had the idea to make it glossy and slippery so that I do not manage to pull it out?
Does a glossy cable look cool... yes... does it work... NO!
The most important problems for me are Speed and Ram...
And I know there are a mountain of new products coming.... with quad core... 5 times faster gpu... these will be good enough to power this beast of a screen.
I have posted some info today on some of the devices that are coming but also this got deleted by some very kind Moderator....
I just say N8000 N8010 N8013.... look it up...
And the SIII is coming... with Exynos 5xxx... dual core with 2 ghz...
Twice the speed of cpu and 5 times the speed of gpu...
Who knows when it is coming because they have so much in the pipeline that is not yet globally distributed... so i suspect they are holding back new stuff to not ruin the marketing of the older stuff that is getting sold just now in some markets.
A lot of minor versions of old stuff gets out too so it is a mess to sell old stuff, sub-versions of old stuff and local versions of all the stuff... canadian versions, multiple US versions, multiple qualities of chinese versions...
How you sell all the old stuff if you come out with SIII? This is their problem...
And a lot more is coming.... look back at how much came out in 2011... there is no reason to expect less in 2012.... I hope they do something about production quality... at least for the flagship devices.
For the moment.... the best phone on the Android market still is a product that came out one year ago and that is still popular like nothing else.
People want it and with all devices going down in price, the S II went up in price.
You can now buy a Atrix, Galaxy R, Evo 3D or LG Optimus 3D for around 250 euros. The SII is still there at 430...
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......And the SIII is coming... with Exynos 5xxx... dual core with 2 ghz...
Twice the speed of cpu and 5 times the speed of gpu...
Who knows when it is coming because they have so much in the pipeline that is not yet globally distributed... so i suspect they are holding back new stuff to not ruin the marketing of the older stuff that is getting sold just now in some markets.
A lot of minor versions of old stuff gets out too so it is a mess to sell old stuff, sub-versions of old stuff and local versions of all the stuff... canadian versions, multiple US versions, multiple qualities of chinese versions...
How you sell all the old stuff if you come out with SIII? This is their problem.......
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Yeah I agree with most of this^^, the product releases are too close and they show off everything early and make consumers wait for a long time (that the next big thing is right around the corner).
On the topic of early adopting, I once bought the latest and greatest for my gaming PC around 2007-2008 (can't remember to be honest; cost me $3500). I'm still happy with it and typing this on that machine right now. Back then, I bought it for PC gaming but now I just use it for consuming media and not so GPU instensive games. Going to try and push it for 2 more years with Windows 8.
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Nice rant... but I disagree with everything you were trying to say.
This screen needs a processor with twice the speed of the Exynos 4xxx.
The S II is so popular because it can take everything you give it and show it to you at minimum 50 frames per second.... 50-60 frames per second is optimum for the human eye. Let us call it S II fluid awesomeness.
The Note has to move much more pixels, so it has half the speed of the SII, particularly on graphically intensive stuff (not invented by me, benchmarks prove it). So we get 25 frames per second...
25 frames is like a TV.... the minimum acceptable... when the Note has a problem to keep up this overclocked speed it goes below 25 fps and it becomes unacceptable for people coming from the SII like me.
The Note deserved a better processor, but I guess this privilege is reserved to the SIII. And Samsung probably thought 25 frames per second is good enough for tv so people will be fine with it. But we are talking about a high end phone here and we now want SII fluid awesomeness on a high end phone. Ok, not we... I want SII fluid awesomeness on a Note.
Our madame moderator will hate this but I write it anyway...
The Note Lte is 1/3 (33%) slower then the N7000.... so it goes below 25 frames and sometimes even touches 9 frames per second on very intensive graphics.
Imagine.... and I complain about the N7000...
Does it mean it is terrible? No.... it is ok....
But also the Acer Liquid Metal is ok.... if you are satisfied with stuff that is "ok"... and it costs just 150$.
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This is beyond crap....the processor and GPU are more than fine for N7000(Galaxy Nexus does fine with a 1.2ghz ARM Cortex-A9(same as N7000) and a lower end GPU), it just happens that Samsung sucks at making software for taking advantage of their hardware properly. If proper GPU acceleration would be present(Like it should be in ICS), this thing would fly out of the gate(It actually does in the CM9 Alpha rom, even though that thing has hardly any GPU acceleration).
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This is beyond crap....the processor and GPU are more than fine for N7000(Galaxy Nexus does fine with a 1.2ghz ARM Cortex-A9(same as N7000) and a lower end GPU), it just happens that Samsung sucks at making software for taking advantage of their hardware properly. If proper GPU acceleration would be present(Like it should be in ICS), this thing would fly out of the gate(It actually does in the CM9 Alpha rom, even though that thing has hardly any GPU acceleration).
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you mean like the fact that ICS has a native GPU acceleration builtin and GB doesn't?
Related
http://androidandme.com/2010/11/new...ped-new-dual-core-version-already-in-testing/
talks about tech crunches report on "serious hardware issues."
here's hoping!
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Dual core?
Now we're talking.
Hooray! Another thread on the same subject!
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Hooray! Another thread on the same subject!
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Chill.
The other thread is locked now.
But on the subject....I could live with this phone.
Make sure its HSPA+ compatable though !
According to tmonews, it only supports up to 7.2/5.76 HSPA (not plus, sorry).
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/11/nexus-s-specs-leaked/
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According to tmonews, it only supports up to 7.2/5.76 HSPA (not plus, sorry).
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/11/nexus-s-specs-leaked/
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looks like you missed the main topic of this thread... there's a new Nexus S in the works with a newer cpu.. supposedly the dual core Orion from samsung. You are still talking about the old specs on the single core CPU. Maybe the change to Orion the radios will change also.
And maybe also the Nexus S will be able to transform into a transmitting device that can place cellular connections with other people that are scattered throughout the United States of America for the provider cost that is paid monthly and also be able to look up various information on the world wide web and display a H on the top of the taskbar which people will still assume is stock on all phones!!!!
I agree the specs of the original Nexus S made me really sad. The original Nexus set the standards for the year to come. Phones are still coming out with the same specs as the N1 even now! So I expect a Dual Core Processor with 32 gig internal running Tmo 4g 10mega pixel camera capable of 1080p 4'3 or bigger display ....have I left anything else out?....oh yeah Angry Birds comes standard
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I agree the specs of the original Nexus S made me really sad. The original Nexus set the standards for the year to come. Phones are still coming out with the same specs as the N1 even now! So I expect a Dual Core Processor with 32 gig internal running Tmo 4g 10mega pixel camera capable of 1080p 4'3 or bigger display ....have I left anything else out?....oh yeah Angry Birds comes standard
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as long as its not 10mp of ****... id rather have 5 of quality than 10 of ****...
1080p recording is just obnoxious...
4.3inch screen is just obnoxious... if there is one thing samsung got right it was the 4inch screen
Nexus S - First Samsung Orion Smartphone?
http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/nexus-s/11523.html
By Sindre Lia, Friday 12 November 2010
The Nexus S is destined to become the first Samsung Orion smartphone, as in the first smartphone to make Hummingbird look old.
The Nexus One was a failure at all but one account: It brought new Android features to smartphone influencers and developers early throughout 2010. Having a star in your fleet of this kind is crucial, and nobody knows it better than Google. The days when you got straight answers from Google executives are long gone - they play ball like OS makers play ball now. We all get confused and then surprised. It's PR at its best and it makes smartphone influencers pay even more attention to what you're really up to.
The Nexus S by Samsung and Google will likely be the most powerful smartphone you've ever seen, as it'll likely be powered by the new Samsung Orion application processor. Its specs pretty much speaks for itself, and we guess the Nexus S will instantly be regarded as the new Android smartphone to be had amongst smartphone influencers and developers looking to get an early taste of new Android features throughout 2011 - and a lot should go wrong if they don't like it. Check out what the processor brings to the table here:
Designed using Samsung's 45 nanometer low-power process technology, Orion features a pair of 1GHz ARM Cortex A9 cores, each comes with a 32KB data cache and a 32KB instruction cache. Samsung also included a 1MB L2 cache to optimize CPU processing performance and provide fast context switching in a multi-tasking environment. In addition, the memory interface and bus architecture of Orion supports data intensive multimedia applications including full HD video playback and high speed 3D action games.
Samsung's new application processor incorporates a rich portfolio of advanced multimedia features implemented by hardware accelerators, such as video encoder/decoder that supports 30fps video playback and recording at 1080p full HD resolution. Using an enhanced graphics processing unit (GPU), the new processors are capable of delivering 5 times the 3D graphics performance over the previous processor generation from Samsung.
The Orion processor will let customers use different types of storage, including NAND flash, moviNAND, SSD or HDD providing both SATA, and eMMC interfaces. Customers can also choose their appropriate memory options including low power LPDDR2 or DDR3, which is commonly used for high performance. In addition, a GPS receiver baseband processor is embedded in the processor to seamlessly support location based services.
A mobile device using the Orion processor can simultaneously support two on-device display screens, while driving a third external display such as a TV or monitor, via an on-chip HDMI 1.3a interface.
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Damn that sounds awesome. SetCPU better get working on a dual CPU version
SO NICE DESIGN !
plastic....but, lighter, never get "over-hit",safer from falls....
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Meh.
It isnt too exciting really. The things I want are a better physical design, improved build quality, vastly better battery life, at least iPhone 4 camera quality, proper multitouch, wireless inductive charging, 5ghz N wifi, HSPA+, higher resolution screen etc
Having a dual core processor doesnt do a thing for those issues (except the higher res screen, and even there a dual 1ghz processor is way overkill).
I thought i'd throw my 2cents is as a newb to the phone. I have probably wrestled with keeping it or selling it more than anyone these past two weeks of owning it. (in fact I actually advertised it with all accessories for sale, like stuff I bought thats on its way..but I've been having second thoughts).
Ok. For one, I was in awe of the Galaxy S, even though i hadn't seen one powered on in person. (Plus the girl I like mentioned it when we were talking about my "new phone" and asked if it was a Galaxy )
In all seriousness though, the discussions that got me leaning to the N1 noted:
- Form factor, form factor, form factor. Whether I like the specs or not, I have to like the bling (dare i say), or form factor in general. This phone just fits sweet in the pocket.
- In the other Nexus S thread, guys mentioned how they came back to their N1 after the Galaxy, and one chap mentioned how he's had his N1 for a year and it has no scratches without babying it. (I know from other HTC plastic phones that this can happen, and it does save you money in the long run by not wanting to buy "fresher" fones after 6 months, just based on the looks factor).
- Touchscreen. Yes it may not be as responsive as the Galaxy S, but I can live with it. And the more I think about it, I don't want to relearn how to flash and root a new device, and how to apply all the fixes. (i seriously spent a full week learning stuff for the N1 and thats a lot of investment).
And more applicably to the Nexus S. The first thing that struck me when I looked at it was it looked too bulgy. I gotta like the way my phone looks man and I gotta say after two weeks of owning this it is timeless and slim. AND i'm not just saying this, because I have a buyer already waiting ..who i've been procrastinating turning down. NEway, later for that ;P (I'll help him find a nice one on ebay tho)
one thing i realized without thinking about it too, is there is brand loyalty involved too. I never really realized this before until I saw you guys' sigs, and looked back. i have been an htc fan and never really noticed it. now I know why.
peace out, and have a good night.
PS: be careful when SMSing tonight! TGIFers! heh! Use your Winmo device like I do ;P and heed the SMS Random Selection fairy! ;P
Oh and whoever said the N1 is not good at gaming, might be right BUT i was highly impressed by quake3demo on the nexus one the other night, and really: im not much of a gamer (on my phones).
I play psx emu on there all the time. Its sweet!
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ROM_Guest said:
I thought i'd throw my 2cents is as a newb to the phone. I have probably wrestled with keeping it or selling it more than anyone these past two weeks of owning it. (in fact I actually advertised it with all accessories for sale, like stuff I bought thats on its way..but I've been having second thoughts).
Ok. For one, I was in awe of the Galaxy S, even though i hadn't seen one powered on in person. (Plus the girl I like mentioned it when we were talking about my "new phone" and asked if it was a Galaxy )
In all seriousness though, the discussions that got me leaning to the N1 noted:
- Form factor, form factor, form factor. Whether I like the specs or not, I have to like the bling (dare i say), or form factor in general. This phone just fits sweet in the pocket.
- In the other Nexus S thread, guys mentioned how they came back to their N1 after the Galaxy, and one chap mentioned how he's had his N1 for a year and it has no scratches without babying it. (I know from other HTC plastic phones that this can happen, and it does save you money in the long run by not wanting to buy "fresher" fones after 6 months, just based on the looks factor).
- Touchscreen. Yes it may not be as responsive as the Galaxy S, but I can live with it. And the more I think about it, I don't want to relearn how to flash and root a new device, and how to apply all the fixes. (i seriously spent a full week learning stuff for the N1 and thats a lot of investment).
And more applicably to the Nexus S. The first thing that struck me when I looked at it was it looked too bulgy. I gotta like the way my phone looks man and I gotta say after two weeks of owning this it is timeless and slim. AND i'm not just saying this, because I have a buyer already waiting ..who i've been procrastinating turning down. NEway, later for that ;P (I'll help him find a nice one on ebay tho)
one thing i realized without thinking about it too, is there is brand loyalty involved too. I never really realized this before until I saw you guys' sigs, and looked back. i have been an htc fan and never really noticed it. now I know why.
peace out, and have a good night.
PS: be careful when SMSing tonight! TGIFers! heh! Use your Winmo device like I do ;P and heed the SMS Random Selection fairy! ;P
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Keep in mind that any software related issues with the galaxy series would be non existant on a samsung made nexus phone.
jivemaster said:
Keep in mind that any software related issues with the galaxy series would be non existant on a samsung made nexus phone.
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Granted.
I would still wait, personally, for a nexus phone with the same form factor as this one. Too slim!
If it is really an orion cpu and can work on the same tzones/web2go plan then i would switch and give up the superior design of the nexus.
If it is licensed thru tmo, you will likely need a full data plan...
Afaik only the dev phones can pull this off as tmo has no record of the imei
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Hey guys,
The setting:
So lets say hypothetically, the boot loader is cracked and we have custom Roms along with custom Kernels.
Now:
What is the potential of this phone?
...More specifically, do you guys think the Atrix will be at the top of the mobile world for years to come and be able to match up against newer dual core phones such as the HTC Pyramid, EVO 3D or the new Samsung and LG phones?
Would it be a worthwhile investment?
I'm curious as to whether this phone, if unlocked, will be the standard phone to compete against. Will all other phones coming out still be playing catchup?
I understand the specs, and understand that phones evolve rather quickly.... just curious as to others opinions and their view of the potential the Atrix has.
Thanks,
And lets hope the boot loader gets cracked soon
Tech moves so quick that by the time the HTC evo 3D and pyramid is released, there are going to be better phones then that.
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That's irrelevant. With your logic, we should never get any phone because there will always be better phones.
I'm asking how long this phone could be considered one of the best if its unlocked.
It has a great battery, and specs that no phone has matched, even phones that are soon to come out.
veshio said:
That's irrelevant. With your logic, we should never get any phone because there will always be better phones.
I'm asking how long this phone could be considered one of the best if its unlocked.
It has a great battery, and specs that no phone has matched, even phones that are soon to come out.
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it will be just like any other high end phone. old after 6-10 months.
neer2005 said:
Tech moves so quick that by the time the HTC evo 3D and pyramid is released, there are going to be better phones then that.
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I'm completely with you on that
veshio said:
That's irrelevant. With your logic, we should never get any phone because there will always be better phones.
I'm asking how long this phone could be considered one of the best if its unlocked.
It has a great battery, and specs that no phone has matched, even phones that are soon to come out.
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Stuff gets more advanced. Theres no stopping it, theres no way to jump ahead. And theres already stuff about the quad core cortex a9 saying it could come as soon as Q3.
I think the Atrix could be a decent on top phone until 2012 max. Then it's most likely to be murdered by another really awesome phone.
Like other have said tech advances so fast now. with in 10 months there will be something as good if not better along. For example check this out
http://www.thebesthandphone.com/new-quad-core-processors-from-qualcomm.html
some time next year we will most likely see quad core phones on the market.
Yea i understand that. I mean it relatively... as in if the phones is on top for a good couple of years, i consider that very good.
veshio said:
Yea i understand that. I mean it relatively... as in if the phones is on top for a good couple of years, i consider that very good.
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well from what I know and I could be totally wrong. The next phone that will be on par spec wise with the atrix is the samsung galaxy s2. It will have 1gig ram also and run the same dual core the atrix has. Not sure the resolution of the screen. The camera is 8mp vs the atrix 5mp and the screen is 4.3 vs 4.0 inches. So I guess you can say the atrix will be king of the hill for another month or so. I'm not sure when the s2 comes out but I have heard it might be in april or may.
I think the Atrix is a good platform for "potential" simply because it has everything everyone else is working towards PLUS a big 1930 MAH battery. We can learn to tweak things down the road, but that is one big battery considering how slim the phone is.
Quad core? If you ask me that's unnecessary. A mobile OS doesn't need that much power, just slim it down. That's the problem with the Atrix, it has MotoBlur which handicaps it. What we really need are better batteries, more memory, and a better NETWORK. The Inspire runs just as quick as the Atrix with a single core and less RAM because Sense doesn't cripple it. I had an Inspire and Atrix side by side and I could hardly tell a difference.
And all this hype about what these processors can do for gaming, that's just senseless. We're talking about 4 inch screens and it's still a phone.
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Quad core? If you ask me that's unnecessary. A mobile OS doesn't need that much power, just slim it down. That's the problem with the Atrix, it has MotoBlur which handicaps it. What we really need are better batteries, more memory, and a better NETWORK. The Inspire runs just as quick as the Atrix with a single core and less RAM because Sense doesn't cripple it. I had an Inspire and Atrix side by side and I could hardly tell a difference.
And all this hype about what these processors can do for gaming, that's just senseless. We're talking about 4 inch screens and it's still a phone.
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Your forgeting one big factor. There is not a OS that supports dual core yet. Once one comes that that utilizes both cores you will see a huge difference. The way I see it cell phones are only about 5-6 years behind PC's. With the popularity of them its only going to get closer. Look at the atrix with some rooting you can use it as a pc once its plugged into a tv/monitor. You are going to see more and more things like this until their is no difference between the two. Who knows 5 years from now in stead of having a pc at home we will have our phones. Just plug it into a tv grab a key board and mouse and do everything we do now on them.
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Your forgeting one big factor. There is not a OS that supports dual core yet. Once one comes that that utilizes both cores you will see a huge difference. The way I see it cell phones are only about 5-6 years behind PC's. With the popularity of them its only going to get closer. Look at the atrix with some rooting you can use it as a pc once its plugged into a tv/monitor. You are going to see more and more things like this until their is no difference between the two. Who knows 5 years from now in stead of having a pc at home we will have our phones. Just plug it into a tv grab a key board and mouse and do everything we do now on them.
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Good point. I forgot GB is optimized for dual core phones. I just don't see those split second differences being a deal breaker for me. I would rather my data over the network move faster (without a tiered plan as well). I'm not much of a gamer either so I'm a little biased in that respect as well.
When it comes down to it, I just want a phone that works and I can use it heavily without worrying about charging the battery. Is that too much to ask? I'm also afraid that all of these fads like 3D is going to convolute what is really important in a phone.
The atrix has the best battery of any phone I've had so far. With a good amount of use. Net surfing texting emails I still get 18+ hours out of it with 20% still showing. I'm at 13 hours since I unplugged my charger and I'm still at 40%
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The atrix has the best battery of any phone I've had so far. With a good amount of use. Net surfing texting emails I still get 18+ hours out of it with 20% still showing. I'm at 13 hours since I unplugged my charger and I'm still at 40%
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I'd be careful of the update. I was getting similar battery life as you with 5-6 hours of display but now I struggle to get 24 hours with 2 hours of display (and I had to remove some apps like Beautiful Widgets and had to turn off my syncing).
My point on the battery life is no one (other than Apple) is trying to improve battery tech. I had the iPhone 4 before the Atrix and I was easily getting 40-50 hours of use and it only had a 1420mAh battery
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well from what I know and I could be totally wrong. The next phone that will be on par spec wise with the atrix is the samsung galaxy s2. It will have 1gig ram also and run the same dual core the atrix has. Not sure the resolution of the screen. The camera is 8mp vs the atrix 5mp and the screen is 4.3 vs 4.0 inches. So I guess you can say the atrix will be king of the hill for another month or so. I'm not sure when the s2 comes out but I have heard it might be in april or may.
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i gotta disagree, i seriously doubt the samsung galaxy S2 will even be able to compete with the Atrix, for one, it's Super thin so i doubt that battery will even come close to the Atrix(correct me it i'm wrong), another reason which a lot of people don't like.........Samsung. Now i've never owned a samsung phone, but i've read a lot of reviews of Samsung galaxy S owners, and 95% of them weren't good at all, i also have a few friends that own Samsung galaxy S phones and none of them kept them over a month. So as far as the Atrix being old news, i really doubt it anytime this year and may still have some hype 1st quarter of 2012(look at the Evo, so it's definitly possible)
Its the software that can make a device great (40% hardware- 60% software). What good the specs are if the os can't utilize its full potential. One big example is motorola xoom and atrix. Im a bit sad that the mobile phone market is becomming more of a specs/hardware race. And the software is getting left behind. This has been a problem of android. Hope google and its hardware partners(samsung, htc, lg) would put great money into developing better updates for android so it can utilize the whole potential of the hardware rather than continously releasing new phones with premature softwares.
And yeah they should improve battery technoogy too...
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i gotta disagree, i seriously doubt the samsung galaxy S2 will even be able to compete with the Atrix, for one, it's Super thin so i doubt that battery will even come close to the Atrix(correct me it i'm wrong), another reason which a lot of people don't like.........Samsung. Now i've never owned a samsung phone, but i've read a lot of reviews of Samsung galaxy S owners, and 95% of them weren't good at all, i also have a few friends that own Samsung galaxy S phones and none of them kept them over a month. So as far as the Atrix being old news, i really doubt it anytime this year and may still have some hype 1st quarter of 2012(look at the Evo, so it's definitly possible)
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This.
and some, like me, think the 4" screen is the perfect size while the 4.3" screen is too big. However, with all future phones, it just comes down to personal preference.
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Your forgeting one big factor. There is not a OS that supports dual core yet. Once one comes that that utilizes both cores you will see a huge difference. The way I see it cell phones are only about 5-6 years behind PC's. With the popularity of them its only going to get closer. Look at the atrix with some rooting you can use it as a pc once its plugged into a tv/monitor. You are going to see more and more things like this until their is no difference between the two. Who knows 5 years from now in stead of having a pc at home we will have our phones. Just plug it into a tv grab a key board and mouse and do everything we do now on them.
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Good point. I forgot GB is optimized for dual core phones. I just don't see those split second differences being a deal breaker for me. I would rather my data over the network move faster (without a tiered plan as well). I'm not much of a gamer either so I'm a little biased in that respect as well.
When it comes down to it, I just want a phone that works and I can use it heavily without worrying about charging the battery. Is that too much to ask? I'm also afraid that all of these fads like 3D is going to convolute what is really important in a phone.
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Wrong, wrong and wrong. Where do you get your information? The build of Froyo running on the Atrix has dual core support.
I see no faster on Atrix running Froyo at the moment. The speed is on par with SS GS and NS. But i rely on Motorola because i have had a few SS phones and all of them had hardware/build issues.
I think the phone will be relevant (to us anyway) for around 3 years, same as with last generations top tier phones.
What I think a lot of people here are confusing is, for the most part, relevance aslnd aactual pole position.
You have to talked into consideration how much better tthe next generation phone is, and whether or not that makes the previous generation actually obsolete or just dated.
For instance, I have the Nexus 1 right now and iI got it after I got the Captivate and Atrix. Yes the Atrix is a better phone on paper but it isn't THAT much better to make me want to get rid of my current phone.
I think, logically, that it will be the 2nd generation up that makes the former irrelevant (at this point). The Atrix and dual core phones announced aalready make the first first Gen smartphones (iPhone 1, HTC hero) extremely dated but the latter half (nexus 1, galaxy s, etc) are still relevant ttoday.
Of course you also have to factor in the applications that are being used and the network the phones are on. Right now, this instant, dual core phones aren't needed because of the speed of the network, light usage for CPU for browsing, and widespread video codecs.
Next year that might change.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_4vijEfQaQ
Next match up
SGS2 vs laptop.
I crown it Samsung Galaxy S Jizz.
At least the other phones don't self combust
Or having a 1/2 day battery life...
DocRambone said:
Or having a 1/2 day battery life...
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Thats what I was kind of getting at!
tameracingdriver said:
At least the other phones don't self combust
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ok that made me laugh
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Or having a 1/2 day battery life...
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what are you running on it causing it to die in 1/2 day?
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what are you running on it causing it to die in 1/2 day?
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A samsung stock rom.
At least the other phones wifi works properly
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_4vijEfQaQ
Next match up
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I crown it Samsung Galaxy S Jizz.
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Galaxy S2 is a sorta a fail in my opinion actually or should i call it a midstop in a right direction
1) First bad graphics choice. mali400 is much weaker than Power VR543 (so chances are this time iphone will have better graphics especially since it's software will be build specifically for it). If they go for mali t604 next year it will be roughly 20 times more powerfull (5 times mali400 core to core)
2) No 3D (not completely necessary at the moment since software needs to be optimized for it first, but certainly not future-proof).
3) Same cheap plastic iphone-like design (least make it something different for once, i like optimus 3D design for instance)
4) To take advantage of multicore and it's improved battery life u need Ice cream Sandwich (in ur face) which wouldn't be out now till Christmas and last time i checked Samsung doesn't have good update history and by THAT time u will hearing about quad-core phones being released shortly (just google- already a bunch of rumors about it). What gives the S2 speed at the moment is 1.2 GHz vs 1ghz from the last and EXT4 and other optimization of gingerbread with better drivers
Via twitter back a few month ago samsung was also considering about quad-core and 3d in their next phone, but i also found this topic about Eldar Murtazin which still exists: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...iPhone-5-both-slated-for-fall-release_id18446
As u see it also has some very interesting info about new screen technology and direction that Samsung is heading to, although i highly doubt about 6 month release table (it will most probably be carrier specific, aka galaxy S2 captivate with 4.5 inch screen, 2GHz dual-core, 4g etc for AT&T like Samsung infuse 4G, for Christmas), it certainly gives u an idea that this phone will be outdated within just few month. So whether u like it or not (or ignore my comment), just see for urself next year when u wasted money!
I certainly wouldn't spend 700 dollars on unlocked phone when a better one will be out in 6-10 month
NOW, many of u might say to me that this is either just rumors or that u can't catch up to technology, but this actually quite false.
First of all many of these rumors are originated from information leaked during prototype testing phases.
Second technology moves in steps.
For instance, while we will see quad-core phones next year (and no doubt about it, Sony NGP (not phone) will be first portable quad-core coming out by end of this year already), we will NOT see 8 core phones any time soon since cortex a9 only supports up to 4 cores and cortex a15 only up to 2 in a phone. Also how many laptops have 8 core CPU- most have stopped at 2 or 4.
we already witnessed how mega-pixel race has ended in 2009 since no phones since then went for 16mp or more. In fact Samsung galaxy s went back to 5 after developing 8mp camera phones (innov8 and i8910 HD) for 2 years.
Screens wouldn't go larger than 4.3 inch (otherwise wouldn't be portable), and 1080p video recording is as high as it can get, so in those things S2 maxes out already on what is possible. Also it's 1GB ram should hopefully be enough to run multiple apps this time although not as many as symbian. But it isn't perfect by any means.
Still if Samsung continue to push forward like in S2, their next phone will be maxed out in just about everything that the software will require.
After that it will mostly be smaller cpu architectural changes and while CPU may stay at 4, gpu can go up to 16 cores, however how much would u really need??
this is what i mean by software cause no developer will be willing to develop crysis 2 for phones and sell it for 10 bucks. power 543 is needed for Sony NGP more than anything else. (i still have Samsung i8910 and it can run all the games ur S2 can as long as it's out for Symbian^3)
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i still have Samsung i8910 and it can run all the games ur S2 can as long as it's out for Symbian^3)
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I feel for you mate, I had that phone for a while, good hardware at the time but symbian kind of made it suck.
Even now theres not much available for it and many of the high end games run pretty badly, I give it to my sister so I still play around with it now and again.
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Galaxy S2 is a sorta a fail in my opinion actually or should i call it a midstop in a right direction
1) First bad graphics choice. mali400 is much weaker than Power VR543 (so chances are this time iphone will have better graphics especially since it's software will be build specifically for it). If they go for mali t604 next year it will be roughly 20 times more powerfull (5 times mali400 core to core)
2) No 3D (not completely necessary at the moment since software needs to be optimized for it first, but certainly not future-proof).
3) Same cheap plastic iphone-like design (least make it something different for once, i like optimus 3D design for instance)
4) To take advantage of multicore and it's improved battery life u need Ice cream Sandwich (in ur face) which wouldn't be out now till Christmas and last time i checked Samsung doesn't have good update history and by THAT time u will hearing about quad-core phones being released shortly (just google- already a bunch of rumors about it). What gives the S2 speed at the moment is 1.2 GHz vs 1ghz from the last and EXT4 and other optimization of gingerbread with better drivers
Via twitter back a few month ago samsung was also considering about quad-core and 3d in their next phone, but i also found this topic about Eldar Murtazin which still exists: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...iPhone-5-both-slated-for-fall-release_id18446
As u see it also has some very interesting info about new screen technology and direction that Samsung is heading to, although i highly doubt about 6 month release table (it will most probably be carrier specific, aka galaxy S2 captivate with 4.5 inch screen, 2GHz dual-core, 4g etc for AT&T like Samsung infuse 4G, for Christmas), it certainly gives u an idea that this phone will be outdated within just few month. So whether u like it or not (or ignore my comment), just see for urself next year when u wasted money!
I certainly wouldn't spend 700 dollars on unlocked phone when a better one will be out in 6-10 month
NOW, many of u might say to me that this is either just rumors or that u can't catch up to technology, but this actually quite false.
First of all many of these rumors are originated from information leaked during prototype testing phases.
Second technology moves in steps.
For instance, while we will see quad-core phones next year (and no doubt about it, Sony NGP (not phone) will be first portable quad-core coming out by end of this year already), we will NOT see 8 core phones any time soon since cortex a9 only supports up to 4 cores and cortex a15 only up to 2 in a phone. Also how many laptops have 8 core CPU- most have stopped at 2 or 4.
we already witnessed how mega-pixel race has ended in 2009 since no phones since then went for 16mp or more. In fact Samsung galaxy s went back to 5 after developing 8mp camera phones (innov8 and i8910 HD) for 2 years.
Screens wouldn't go larger than 4.3 inch (otherwise wouldn't be portable), and 1080p video recording is as high as it can get, so in those things S2 maxes out already on what is possible. Also it's 1GB ram should hopefully be enough to run multiple apps this time although not as many as symbian. But it isn't perfect by any means.
Still if Samsung continue to push forward like in S2, their next phone will be maxed out in just about everything that the software will require.
After that it will mostly be smaller cpu architectural changes and while CPU may stay at 4, gpu can go up to 16 cores, however how much would u really need??
this is what i mean by software cause no developer will be willing to develop crysis 2 for phones and sell it for 10 bucks. power 543 is needed for Sony NGP more than anything else. (i still have Samsung i8910 and it can run all the games ur S2 can as long as it's out for Symbian^3)
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I'll just have to buy that phone when it comes out then, it's only money bro.
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I'll just have to buy that phone when it comes out then, it's only money bro.
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Lmao awesome answer. I think he's one of these people who never buys any tech cos he keeping thinking a newer one will be just around the corner.
On the point of updates though, who brought the first GB to the market?
Facts: the Galaxy S II is the fastest and most powerful hand-held device ever
, and (this includes the iPhone 5) it is the only portable device in the world than can play 1080p MKV and flash videos as smooth as butter for which the screen size and technology is ideal.
I personally think quad-cores in a cell phone is overkill, anyway. I mean, at present, the Galaxy S II perfectly does the above and multi-tasks and launches apps instantly - how much more can a quad core processor improve on that? Not much as its so fast to begin with. Plus, factoring in the fact that with dual-core even, battery drainage is a problem, i shudder to think how long the battery would last of a quad-core chip, especially if it had a fast GPU.
And on the subject of the GPU, the SGSII isn't targeted at hardcore gamers anyway - it'll do its job if its able to play most big title commercial and casual games well, and it's relative power would ensure future mainstream titles such as NFS would be playable at a smooth framerate- this is it's target audience. Simply put, if gaming is your first priority then this device isn't for you.
A real hardcore gaming phone will be the next iteration of the Xperia Play - with an nvidia chipset and PS2 game emulation and all that jazz - designed specifically for gamers. Just cannot play serious games without a joypad.
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3D is a waste of space, time and money
the sgs2 is much faster than my sgs1 yet both have ext4 and my sgs1* runs at 1.3Ghz.
not bothering to reply to the rest which are pretty much dumb assertions. phones get updated every 6-10 month since 5 years (except the iPhone). Get over it already.
This phone its so fast.. Forget what these videos have say, once you get the phone and see for your self you'll appreciate it more. Sometimes I can't believe this device that its so light and slim is this fast and I actually do think its more comparable to a laptop Than any phone out at the moment. It loads iplayer videos faster than my ps3 and just as fast as my pc. Way faster than my iphone 4 or my brothers desire hd.. way faster.
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Galaxy S2 is a sorta a fail in my opinion actually or should i call it a midstop in a right direction
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So if it's "midstop in a right direction," what in your considered opinion is the phone we should all be getting assuming we want/need a phone in the next few months? This will be Samsung's flagship on the U.S. carriers for nine months to a year and it hasn't even launched their yet. As fast as technology moves I'm sure the SGS2 will evolve and that there will be an SGS3, but it's not going to be in the next six to nine months. As someone said earlier, if we all wait for the utopian phone we'll die with a TouchPro in our hands.
Don't judge me because i still use a touch pro!
so coming from an atrix (which is definitely underrated once blur is taken care of through TB) would it be worth the 200 or so extra? Im seeing very mixed reviews about this phone as well
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so coming from an atrix (which is definitely underrated once blur is taken care of through TB) would it be worth the 200 or so extra? Im seeing very mixed reviews about this phone as well
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Well worth it tbh. Came from my atrix, havent regreted it for a second. The atrix isnt in the same league
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i have been toying with the idea and while i can still get $500+ for the atrix. Nice to hear it from an x atrix user. I just dont know what the best way to get this phone to Canada is.
Well damn. After getting the Note, it seems like that desire for the SGS3, HTC One X, or whatever new swanky phone with quad cores dies down when I see the lack of a S-pen on these devices. If the Note didn't exist, and if I still owned that awesome SGS2, I would have sold it to get the next powerful device like the HTC One X.
But noooo, now the only thing I look for is the availability of a S-Pen or similar device, and a screen as big as the Note. If it doesn't come with either, I can't seem to get myself to care about it. Anyone else stuck in this strange trap?
I agree with you 100%
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I don't see the specs of SGS3 anywhere.
HTC one X - With a Quad core 1.5 CPU and a Standard battery, Li-Po 1800 mAh. I assume this one's not gonna be a battery friendly device.
With the Note in Hand, I dont see any other options for an upgrade.
Besides, Life with the S-Pen + MMS is fun.
i hate my note
for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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I don't see the specs of SGS3 anywhere.
HTC one X - With a Quad core 1.5 CPU and a Standard battery, Li-Po 1800 mAh. I assume this one's not gonna be a battery friendly device.
With the Note in Hand, I dont see any other options for an upgrade.
Besides, Life with the S-Pen + MMS is fun.
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HTC is no slouch man. They have been in this for quite a long time and I believe the One X should have decent battery life. It's quite the powerhouse if you put it next to the SGS2, so I'll give it credit where it's due. If the Note didn't exist, the One X would definitely be my next phone.
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for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?
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for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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Note 2 of course
Very true!
arungk2 said:
for setting such high standards
i think its going to save me a lot of money
my next phone will have to beat my note
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I love being trapped, saves me a lot of timing keeping up with all the news about newer and faster devices and having to decide which one to buy next and when. Now i just have to wait for the note2. No hurry btw, love the note a it is.
Now let's just hope no other manufacturer come out with this screen size and making my life complicated again
Sige
The Galaxy Note needs better screen drivers. The rendering of near-black pixels is awful and the S-pen is not as responsive as other devices. But I would not trade it for any other device right now.
The mobile devices are following the steps of the PCs with the MHz race, which lead to CPUs disipating 120W and needing huge and noise fans. I no longer consider the CPU / GPU / 4G radio when examining a new device.
Like in the PC world, it's OK if you're into gaming and want to load the newest games on your device, but for 90% of the people, they won't see the difference between a dual-core and quad-core. (Recently the boys from Gizmodo gave a few Ipad 2 to reviewers saying that they were Ipad 3, and they provided feedback as such).
But a quad-core CPU, multi-core GPU, has it's impact on battery, weight and running temperature. The same that happened on PCs. It stopped making sense once the CPU was dissipating 120 W.
The same for 4G / LTE / Whatever are now talking about that's 1 Gbps. What sense does make a 50 Mps connection when you're limited to 1 or 2 GB a MONTH?
At 50 Mps you can only use the connection 3 MINUTES before reaching your data cap. This is not serious people, this is just marketing buzz for people that's technically illiterate and cannot make the most simple calculations.
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The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?
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Only one I know of, some low end company.
I think everyone else was waiting to see how well the note did before jumping to bigger screens. It makes sense given the number of bad reviews the note gets.
I think now that they hit the 5 million mark, we're going to see a lot more larger phones. I'm not convinced there is a large market for the stylus though.
The only phone that meets my requirements is the Note. I liked the S2, but the Note is a much more versatile device. I'm a photographer, and the Note is a truly photographer-friendly device. My next phone will be a Note 2, and I'm in no hurry for that.
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Tegra 3 it's not a quad-core CPU, it has 5 cores. The fifth core is active when the phone is "sleeping" or with low demanding tasks, in order to save energy. Early reports indicate that One X's battery behaviour is quite good, but none official review is out yet, so it's premature to judge it (unless, of course, you're a samsung fanboy).
I'm going to get a HTC One X in the next 2 weeks, but that doesn't diminuish my urge to get a Galaxy Note. IMO, Note can't be compared to any other phone, it's on a league of it's own. If the biiiig size isn't a problem for you or the issues with the screen, get a Note. It'll do everything One X or SGIII do, only in a BIGGER way!
I won't buy one because I can only have 1 smartphone and for me it's too big for daily use
htc one out in the wild ...hmmm..not that impressed
http://www.droiddog.com/android-blog/2012/03/htc-one-s-for-t-mobile-caught-on-camera/
Just the other day when i was driving in the mud in the forest with my atv, A stick pierced my plastic shield that covers the braking cylinder. I took up my note, Took a picture and sketched on the image how the plastic was attached and what size it was. Sent the picture in like 2 minutes. Got an email back from the workshop that they have cut out that part in metal and was ready to be picked up.
So on my way home from the ATV run i picked up the piece just a couple of hours later and it fits perfectly.
That is the first time i really feelt how awesome the S pen function really was.
Now i might not have needed that part so fast, but it sure was sweet having it done so fast while driving in the woods and with such ease!
Before i even bought this phone i was like wtf do i need a stylus for, Its so Xperia X1 and that phone sucked. But i find it useful atleast a couple days a week!
Feel the same - although for me it's the screen size that keeps me from other devices. Never smaller than 5,3".
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I won't buy one because I can only have 1 smartphone and for me it's too big for daily use
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I thought the Note would be too big for daily use, but I was wrong. You're probably wrong too.
Yep, i need the Spen cause i'm an illustrator. All other phones are just phones.
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HTC is no slouch man. They have been in this for quite a long time and I believe the One X should have decent battery life. It's quite the powerhouse if you put it next to the SGS2, so I'll give it credit where it's due. If the Note didn't exist, the One X would definitely be my next phone.
The thing is, which other manufacturer has announced a screen size bigger than 5" for 2012? Or promising a digitizer or wacom pen-thingy?
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What!?!
I beg your pardon?
For all I know (I. e. Experience) HTC is well known for their tiny batteries on every device currently! And if specs don't change, even new devices too!
For me battery size and performance is a must and after the Note (screen size and SPen aside) I don't see any device capable of getting me through an entire day on a single charge with heavy use.
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after galaxy S III realized I will post my phone on ebay right away.
Like I always do.
Moandal said:
I thought the Note would be too big for daily use, but I was wrong. You're probably wrong too.
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I know, isn't it ironic that the "it's too big for daily use" argument is put forth mostly by people who have never used it daily?
http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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By all means, make up your mind based upon a blog's first-hand experience with a prerelease ROM and kernel.
Just sayin'.
And also phone is connected to charger
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http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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Perhaps you would be more enlightened/discouraged by reading about the exact same issue with the S6 HERE
In both cases, these are both devices running "bragging" ROM versions for MWC and also running a synthetic benchmark that is often derided as "non-representative" of reality.
Either way, I wouldn't be tempted to draw any conclusions yet. Early adopters pay over the odds in financial and ROM stability/performance terms.
odd move basing your buying decision on a phone thats being used constantly pre released and being charged at the same dam time smh
And all this is based on the fact that some would-be tech journalist from Romania tried to do some benchmark tests on a phone with non-final software on it and that has been on the charger for two-three days continuously, with its screen lit up most of the time and that has been played with by hundreds of people ... Let's be patient a little and wait for a test when the whole package is actually finished and shipped out for real reviews.
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http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
Well, time to go for the S6.
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I had the same msg on my note 3... notting to worry about.. if your phone is at 57C, you'll see that msg in antututu if you want to benchmark
This should pretty much sum all this bafoonery up
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http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
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Read this, kind of lengthy but very well written.
http://semiaccurate.com/2015/03/02/behind-fake-qualcomm-snapdragon-810-overheating-rumors/
Applesexual said:
http://androidheadlines.com/2015/03...-one-m9-running-antutu-benchmark-app-mwc.html
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Even if this is true would rather have a heating phone than a glass back phone with no microsd and running sampoop software that never updates still waiting for lollipop on my Note 4 worse decision ever trying samsung again I've never had a good experience with samsung u can have all the nice specs but you need software to back it up all htc's are currently updated to lollipop and should we talk about the bootloader easily unlockable does anyone remember the fact it leaked samsung paid people to give bad reviews on phones they have alot of money to throw around best is to try the phone yourself thats what the 15 day return policy is for
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Even if this is true would rather have a heating phone than a glass back phone with no microsd and running sampoop software that never updates still waiting for lollipop on my Note 4 worse decision ever trying samsung again I've never had a good experience with samsung u can have all the nice specs but you need software to back it up all htc's are currently updated to lollipop and should we talk about the bootloader easily unlockable does anyone remember the fact it leaked samsung paid people to give bad reviews on phones they have alot of money to throw around best is to try the phone yourself thats what the 15 day return policy is for
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Couldn't make sense of your point as there was no punctuation...I have tired head now.
Even if so, samsung would be the last company I turn my head to if I leave HTC (after apple that is, but goes without saying)
I thought this was a joke. The same post is in the Galaxy S6 forum.
Anywoot, simple solution to overheating. Custom kernel and undervolting.
watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqez7e5JTcU running benchmarks side by side and no overheating warning popped up on either phone.
Overheating on a demo phone that probably has the screen on for hours on end and is tethered into a charger...yeah that makes sense
Yes indeed.. Antutu already alarms when your phone is at 58C... Screen and charger always on, a lot of people play with it and run benchmarks.. not so strange it's going to be around 60C and antutu gives a warning..
Even the S6 will do exactly the same in that situation. I've had it also with my Note 3, when on charger
Not a big fan of Samsung's take on Android (TW) and I know benchmark results are not always reflective of real world performance. However, these results look pretty darn good for the S6 devices. Seems like some good optimization work has gone into these devices. S6 is pushing a lot more pixels.. don't know how the tests are affected by that.
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Not a big fan of Samsung's take on Android (TW) and I know benchmark results are not always reflective of real world performance. However, these results look pretty darn good for the S6 devices. Seems like some good optimization work has gone into these devices. S6 is pushing a lot more pixels.. don't know how the tests are affected by that.
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Optimization... On Samsung! Pufffth. It was evident in previous cases that the Note 3 had cheated on bench marks. I'm not saying HTC hasn't cheated either, but just something to realize that benchmarks aren't everything and can be easily fabricated with some from of performance setting (i.e. higher clocks or performance governor).
My insights below. Maybe biased in the eyes of Samsung
After owning both the One M7 and S5 - I had a better experience on the m7 and the screen on the Samsung is very thin that it broke after I dropped it on the ground. I personally see a lot of people with broken digitizer's on the bus and this is probably why. In my case, my next phone will either be a Sony or a HTC. If you guys are wondering if warranty protects against this, it doesn't unless the phone's digitizer doesn't respond at all that means I'm not covered by warranty at all. Something to realize when buying any from of warranty.
that is inevitable, cortex A57 is a big and hot core