It seems that Samsung might be throttling the SD865 performance to decrease the gap between it and the Exynos version. Check this video to see how the SD S20ultra compares to other SD865 phones in the market right now, such a gap indeed.
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Also check out this Antutu benchmark score from my Exynos S20U.
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Also check out this Antutu benchmark score from my Exynos S20U.
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Is this a freezer job?
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Also check out this Antutu benchmark score from my Exynos S20U.
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how did you get such a high score? mine doesn't go higher than 527k
This is pretty ordinary if Samsung is throttling the s20 865... Definitely a dog act
I just ordered a G9880 from hong kong... Maybe I should cancel my order..
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Any throttling will be via the kernel wont it? Can any developers tell us if there is anything that we should know about???
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This is pretty ordinary if Samsung is throttling the s20 865... Definitely a dog act
I just ordered a G9880 from hong kong... Maybe I should cancel my order..
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Any throttling will be via the kernel wont it? Can any developers tell us if there is anything that we should know about???
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Most likely a kernel thing. Some, if not all bootloaders in the SD version can't be unlocked, so nothing can be done about it (like flashing a custom kernel that won't throttle the chip)..
Then the gap of battery life will be even bigger. 865 will be even more efficient after throttling
I think you guys being paranoid on the throttling thing. But me and another guy ran 3dmark benchmark on my Snapdragon vs his Exynos and my scores were better. So if they are throttling the SD it still kicking Exynos butt! Get the 3dmark app off playstore and run slingshot extreme and post your scores.
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I think you guys being paranoid on the throttling thing. But me and another guy ran 3dmark benchmark on my Snapdragon vs his Exynos and my scores were better. So if they are throttling the SD it still kicking Exynos butt! Get the 3dmark app off playstore and run slingshot extreme and post your scores.
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Have no clue about the results compared to the 865.....but here are mine.....
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Then the gap of battery life will be even bigger. 865 will be even more efficient after throttling
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If it's true. Then it might be hard to tell when exactly they started doing it. Might be from the very beginning. Or right after people started signing the petition to stop using Exynos.
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how did you get such a high score? mine doesn't go higher than 527k
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How did you get such a high score? Mine doesn't go higher than 474k
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How did you get such a high score? Mine doesn't go higher than 474k
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Duncan1982 said:
Have no clue about the results compared to the 865.....but here are mine.....
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Hate how you can't just upload a photo directly. Anyway I don't have a photo website where I can link to my screenshot so will just type this out manually.
SM-G988U1
April 4, 2020 23:19
Overall score 9251
Graphics score 12477
Graphics test 1 (FPS) 72.60
Graphics test 2 (FPS) 43.30
Physics score 4856
Physics test 1 (FPS) 84.90
Physics test 2 (FPS) 53.20
Physics test 3 (FPS) 28.90
I don't think Samsung is intentionally throttling performance of Snapdragon 865 units. Samsung has been traditionally conservative (aka "non-aggressive") in performance tweaking. That means they uses the reference best Q (energy efficiency) tweaks from Qualcomm. However some OEMs (like Xiaomi, Realme and Oneplus) are known to be more aggressive in performance tweaking. They are more willing to sacrifice thermal/energy efficiency to get better perf/scores. It is unfair to compare Samsung devices with them and say "Samsung throttle Snapdragon to make Exynos not to look so bad". (You will probably get the same results when comparing Samsung's older devices with other OEM's older devices.)
Plus, Samsung devices get some crappy special security additions which impair performance and their software quality is kinda mediocre when it comes to performance optimization.
BTW, for S20 series, "Optimized" power mode is actually a power saving mode. Only "High Performance" mode enables full power of the phone.
Some say, if you get the Exynos S20U then what you're really getting is just a S20U "Lite". But we can now see the same on the SD865 version. What they are getting is a SD865 "Lite". Regardless if Samsung is intentionally doing it or not. Seems we are all on the same boat.
Thank you for this post. Haven't laughed so hard in ages. Enjoy your phone, speed tests are absolutely [emoji817] percent worthless!!!
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Another video. But this time the SD S20ultra score is even lower at 534k! Wow!
If you like score buy a red magic!
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Some say, if you get the Exynos S20U then what you're really getting is just a S20U "Lite". But we can now see the same on the SD865 version. What they are getting is a SD865 "Lite". Regardless if Samsung is intentionally doing it or not. Seems we are all on the same boat.
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My SD Ultra Lite still faster than a EXYNOS Ultra Lite. Plus it runs cooler and battery life is better. So no I'm not in the same boat. Waving to Mohammed as I leave his boat in my wake.
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Hi, first of all let me say that I'm not a benchmark fan boy... but for curiosity I just did it in all my devices (Galaxy Tab 7.7, Transform Ultra Cell phone and Galaxy player 4.0).
I did it using Quadrant Standard and surprisingly the Tab is the only one that doesn't support cube maps and crossbar combiner which I don't have a clue what they are. I'm assuming they are graphics related.
Now... I don't know if that's obsolete and the Tab uses some newer technology?... and that's why it doesn't support those two? (I don't think so)
If anyone has the knowledge about this matter and has the time to drop a line that would be really appreciated!
Thanks in advance!
...Another thing that I noticed in the benchmark (now using AnTuTu Benchmark) is that in the 2D test marks from 149 to 297 in several tests, a lot lower than my cell phone that marks 393!!! WTH???
Dusko75 said:
...Another thing that I noticed in the benchmark (now using AnTuTu Benchmark) is that in the 2D test marks from 149 to 297 in several tests, a lot lower than my cell phone that marks 393!!! WTH???
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Higher screen resolution than your phone most likely the culprit for the lower benchmarks. If your phone is 800x480, well, 1280x800 is 2.667 times more pixels to render. Assuming your phone has the same GPU (Mali-400), you're asking the same hardware to do almost 3x the work.
Mmmm I see your point but that can't be the case here. My cell isn't the best out there and has a single core 1Ghz and the tab (7.7) has a 1.4Ghs dual core... Its just faster, dual core and newer...
All that assuming that the actual core is the one processing the video....? And if not... The samsung Transform Ultra just can't compete with a tablet that new and fancy in the market...
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Maybe I'm wrong in what is processing the video but this cell phone just can't be better in any performance...
My cell shows a GPU Qualcom Adreno 205. I'll check tonight what my tab has, don't have it here right now...
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Don't get me wrong, I love this tab but those numbers in the benchmark and the "unsupported" things really surprised me and I just want to find out what's all that about, that's all.
Thanks for your comment.
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Not sure why you're benchmarking so low vs an Adreno 205... The Mali 400 should spank the 205 all kinds of silly.
The number of CPU cores in these kinds of graphical benchmarks isn't as important as the type of GPU being used.
Let's not also forget that benchmarks are almost never a decent indication of how fast the device feels.
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Out of curiosity, how does your 7.7 stack up against your cell phone in the 3D test score, not the 2D?
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Not sure why you're benchmarking so low vs an Adreno 205... The Mali 400 should spank the 205 all kinds of silly.
The number of CPU cores in these kinds of graphical benchmarks isn't as important as the type of GPU being used.
Let's not also forget that benchmarks are almost never a decent indication of how fast the device feels.
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Out of curiosity, how does your 7.7 stack up against your cell phone in the 3D test score, not the 2D?
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I totally agree with you... and yes the tab has a Mali 400...
(AnTuTu benchmark)
In the 3D marks 1225 and my cellphone 1324
2D (again) Tab: 297 Cell:399
Amazing.... unless the benchmark apps are junk...
The other thing that still concerns me is the unsupported Cube maps and the Crossbar combiner that the Quadrant Standard benchmark app is showing me....
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I totally agree with you... and yes the tab has a Mali 400...
(AnTuTu benchmark)
In the 3D marks 1225 and my cellphone 1324
2D (again) Tab: 297 Cell:399
Amazing.... unless the benchmark apps are junk...
The other thing that still concerns me is the unsupported Cube maps and the Crossbar combiner that the Quadrant Standard benchmark app is showing me....
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Again, benchmarks aren't the be-all-end-all indicator of a device's real-world performance. If the device does what you need it to within acceptable and expected ways, then I would just leave it at that and be happy with it!
Hehehe I know, I know... I'm just extremely curious about the whole thing... And as I said I'm not a fan of benchmarking everything... Even if I did it a couple of days ago for curiosity...
Nice talking to you
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I know that the Note 3 got the Snapdragon 800 8974AA(GPU clocked at 450 MHz).
So i ran the latest GFXBench 3.0(Manhattan offscreen) and got a score of 11.1, which is even better than the scores the Snapdragon 800 8974AB(GPU clocked at 550/578MHz) got.
How can this be?
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I know that the Note 3 got the Snapdragon 800 8974AA(GPU clocked at 450 MHz).
So i ran the latest GFXBench 3.0(Manhattan offscreen) and got a score of 11.1, which is even better than the scores the Snapdragon 800 8974AB(GPU clocked at 550/578MHz) got.
How can this be?
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maybe its caused by throttling down due temperature
Maybe memory of Note 3 is faster and larger than other phone, which shouldn't be Samsung because S5 uses AC version. I think Note3 has very fast RAM and if other phone has slower (read cheaper) RAM it could bottleneck there. Also, as the other poster said the other phone could be thermally throttling, especially if the benchmarks were run multiple times to get average. You figure people running benchmarks would know better, but who knows.
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Yeah maybe that's the case.
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Maybe memory of Note 3 is faster and larger than other phone, which shouldn't be Samsung because S5 uses AC version. I think Note3 has very fast RAM and if other phone has slower (read cheaper) RAM it could bottleneck there. Also, as the other poster said the other phone could be thermally throttling, especially if the benchmarks were run multiple times to get average. You figure people running benchmarks would know better, but who knows.
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The thing is that, other Note 3 get's around 9-10 FPS, which is normal for a 8974AA SoC. So either some Note 3's got the AB(which is unlikley) or Samsung is cheating again and overclocking the GPU to AB levels only for the Bench.
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Yeah maybe that's the case.
The thing is that, other Note 3 get's around 9-10 FPS, which is normal for a 8974AA SoC. So either some Note 3's got the AB(which is unlikley) or Samsung is cheating again and overclocking the GPU to AB levels only for the Bench.
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Samsung never overclocked anything, what they did in the past is ramp up frequency to maximum before benchmark started running, so there was no delay to get CPU/GPU to full speed, like you have with on demand governor. I don't believe it's cheating because you can set the governor to run full click yourself (if rooted) and benefit from this as well with any game/ benchmark. It also shows how inefficient ondemand governor is and maybe we should be using different governor setting which is interesting topic all by itself. I remember there was similar "scandal" few years ago in graphic card business, where drivers were optimized for particular benchmarks. Well, now all video drivers are optimized for specific, mostly graphic intensive games and we all benefit from it by having better performance, from lesser hardware. Maybe this could also benefit all of us by giving us better governors, so the phones can run faster with the same hardware, instead of being artificially slowed down with poor choice of governor settings. As far as other Notes running slower, thermal throttling due to multiple benchmark runs to get average would be my wild guess. Or maybe you deleted factory bloatware and change settings to make your phone faster, but no, you don't have AB version.
Here are the various benchmark results from the OnePlus X device.
AnTuTu Benchmark score:38132
AnTuTu HTML5 test: 18219
Geekbench 3 score: Single-Core: 918
Multi-core: 2433
3DMark Score: SlingShot using ES 3.0 : 701
I've attached the screenshots of all the test result for reference.
38132 Antutu makes no sense. My OnePlus One with the same CPU/GPU gets almost 50K
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38132 Antutu makes no sense. My OnePlus One with the same CPU/GPU gets almost 50K
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Reaches upto 40K+ for mine in an tu tu.
And OPO has 2.5Ghz CPU but OP X has 2.3Ghz that differs the score.
I had 50k with my oneplus one and 39k with my oneplus x.
But, the htc one m8 had 2.3ghz s801 with 2gb of ram and had 45k antutu...
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I had 50k with my oneplus one and 39k with my oneplus x.
But, the htc one m8 had 2.3ghz s801 with 2gb of ram and had 45k antutu...
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As far as I know op x uses the least powerful 801 and m8 used the more powerful sd801 2.3ghz cpu.
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As far as I know op x uses the least powerful 801 and m8 used the more powerful sd801 2.3ghz cpu.
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Yup, the X has the AA variant which has a lower clocked CPU and GPU hence the differences between other SD801 chips.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7846/...-snapdragon-800-and-801-clearing-up-confusion
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Yup, the X has the AA variant which has a lower clocked CPU and GPU hence the differences between other SD801 chips.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7846/...-snapdragon-800-and-801-clearing-up-confusion
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So, enough for UI animations and Fruit Ninja. I think that's a reasonable expectation for a $250 device with an awesome build.
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So, enough for UI animations and Fruit Ninja. I think that's a reasonable expectation for a $250 device with an awesome build.
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U could say that. Putting sd801 doesn't mean that u can always expect the top notch performance. Not everyone does hardcore gaming on mobile leave that to pc. Looking at price point it's kinda perfect.
I knw some ppl would tell sd615 performs better but that's a newer chip.
Those scores really don´t do the OnePlus X justice. The device runs so smooth and fast it´s an incredible device for 250$! I had no lags at all since using it.
The oneplus x uses sd 8974AA
but the gpu is clocked at 578mhz just like AB and AC version
^ Interesting.
Specs and benchmarks aside, it's a really smooth and fluid experience. I can't tell the difference between the OPX and OPO regardless of the extra 5k or so in Antutu. They did a really good job with the hardware and software for a nice user experience.
Agreed with everyone!
I dont know why antutu benchmark is low on this device, it runs smooth and neverlags till now, even tough i have filled my device with all the daily apps i need ,
If u ask me, i guess oxygen os is again to be blamed here,
I m not sure about this, but on my previous device some custom rom offers a difference of almost 5-6 k. So i believe an update or custom rom might enhance the score,
But still antutu benchmark dosent matter to me if my device is running smoothly??
Yup ur right Oxygen OS is the enemy here... Can't wait for custom ROMs
do the benchmarks change after flashing the custom kernel? If so, can someone upload a pic of the new benchmarks and see how it compares?
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do the benchmarks change after flashing the custom kernel? If so, can someone upload a pic of the new benchmarks and see how it compares?
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Here you go on default settings of blu_spark v25 kernel
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Here you go on default settings of blu_spark v25 kernel
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Thanks, seems like benchmark didn't go up by much but the performance definitely is better !
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My antutu benchmark was 40801 with the stock kernel and stock cpu&gpu governor.
Changing both the CPU and GPU governors (on stock kernel) let me reach 43375.
I think there's room for further optimization.
By the way, the SOC version is nether AA or AB, since the complete code is
MSM8974PRO-AA,
just as this is a sort of "pro" version. In the table, the AA GPU frequency is 400 MHz, whereas in the OPX it is 578 MHz. I looks like qualcomm produced a newer version of the SOC, unsurprisingly the cited article, more than 1.5 years old, may didn't notice this.
Wow, my LG G2 is slightly faster? Disappointing because I got an invite and was going to buy one. Hmmmmm.
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Wow, my LG G2 is slightly faster? Disappointing because I got an invite and was going to buy one. Hmmmmm.
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I wouldn't hold to much stock in what the benchmarks have to say. On my one plus one some of the laggiest kernel's gave the best scores.
Though having said that has anyone looked in to the voltage tables and CPU binning? I suspect there is more useful information there than a whole bunch of benchmark scores.
I have always regarded CPU benchmarks to be more about management of heat and thermal throttling than user performance.
For example my old lg g2 would let the CPU bake at about 72° where as on my one plus one the CPU is pretty much brick walled at about 60°, thanks to my kernels very conservative thermal profile.
The result is disappointing benchmark scores of around 32-38 antutu's. But in day to day use the one plus one is much smoother than my old g2.
I could install the original cm12s and start scoring about 51 antutu's, but in day to day use that ROM is a lag monster in comparison to what I have now. Also I prefer not to thermally stress my phone to much with hot CPU's. That's what killed my g2.
A thread where all benchmarks are posted. Especially when comparing exynos vs SD 820
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7_and_s7_edge_benchmarked_the_exynos_flavor-news-16794.php
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Seems way of if you ask me.. should kill the z5... There is deff something wrong here!
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Seems way of if you ask me.. should kill the z5... There is deff something wrong here!
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Z5 is rendering in 1080p so there's no surprise it comes ahead in onscreen benchmarks. The mali-gpu is also not the strongest. Pretty sure the 820 will perform better.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G5-shakes-hands-with-Snapdragon-820-to-shatter-AnTuTu-records-benchmark-test-scores_id78636
LG G5 seems to be scoring almost 20k higher than the exynos 8890-equipped S7. S820 looks to be the better SoC by far at this point.
https://youtu.be/qMJ2x6POZak
128k there.i guess its the exynos
Anyway not enough to surpass the iphone
http://www.antutu.com/en/view.shtml?id=8184
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https://youtu.be/qMJ2x6POZak
128k there.i guess its the exynos
Anyway not enough to surpass the iphone
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Seriously ? Do you even know how ios and android operate ?
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To sum things up: the Snapdragon 820 sports a better GPU, the Exynos 8890 sports a better CPU and a better DAC (Qualcomm DACs just haven't got the best of reputations, while the Exynos usually sport a decent Wolfson DAC), Qualcomm SOCs however usually sport a better baseband/radio than the competition.
I would say, in daily usages, the performances should be negligible, the real impact between both should be battery life related, an early preview done on the Exynos 8890 version claims a 12hrs battery life at maximum brightness on the S7 (not the S7 Edge), I guess we will see how it goes when more reviews come in.
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To sum things up: the Snapdragon 820 sports a better GPU, the Exynos 8890 sports a better CPU and a better DAC (Qualcomm DACs just haven't got the best of reputations, while the Exynos usually sport a decent Wolfson DAC), Qualcomm SOCs however usually sport a better baseband/radio than the competition.
I would say, in daily usages, the performances should be negligible, the real impact between both should be battery life related, an early preview done on the Exynos 8890 version claims a 12hrs battery life at maximum brightness on the S7 (not the S7 Edge), I guess we will see how it goes when more reviews come in.
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No Wolfson this time. It seems Samsung is using an in-house DAC.
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/02/22...ony-imx260-camera-sensor-in-house-audio-chip/
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Seriously ? Do you even know how ios and android operate ?
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Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
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Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
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No you dont get it. Android uses multi cores to the fullest thats why multi core performance is the thing to look at, i suggest u read a piece on the subject on Anandtech
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another benchmark between sd 820 and 8890:
www.anandtech.com/show/10075/early-exynos-8890-impressions
i hope the 4 core difference between the two doesn't mean worse performance on the sd 820 variant. Also if you in the EU you will -apparently- be getting the exynos variant :crying:
i also read somewhere that said that the sd 820 had 2x custom (kyro) a-72 cores and 2x custom (kyro) a-53 cores and not 4x cutom (kyro) a-72 cores, hope its not true.
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Yes.And its irrelevant.that test is cross platform
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Quoted from the comments of the article at AnandTech linked above:
It seems perfectly competitive in the graphics benchmarks, and comparing JavaScript benchmarks across different hardware, OS, and browser configurations is useless. To say Apple's Safari team "aggressively optimizes" for Octane and Kraken would be an understatement. Plus we're talking about simple benchmarks that can barely make any use of a second processor core, so of course they make the A9's dual-core CPU design look good next to more parallel competitors. Run something like Geekbench MT or the 3DMark physics test and watch A9 lose out to even Exynos 7420 or SD 810.
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another benchmark between sd 820 and 8890:
www.anandtech.com/show/10075/early-exynos-8890-impressions
i hope the 4 core difference between the two doesn't mean worse performance on the sd 820 variant. Also if you in the EU you will -apparently- be getting the exynos variant :crying:
i also read somewhere that said that the sd 820 had 2x custom (kyro) a-72 cores and 2x custom (kyro) a-53 cores and not 4x cutom (kyro) a-72 cores, hope its not true.
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The s820 has two custom cores and two lower-clocked A53s. It really won't matter that it has two fewer larger cores, as more cores leads to more heat, and more heat to more throttling. Only in benchmarks will it be noticeable.
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The s820 has two custom cores and two lower-clocked A53s.
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Where did you find that the 2 lower clocked are indeed A53s? What I have read, SD820 has 2 high clocked 2.15GHz and 2 low clocked 1.59GHz "Kryo cores"? So those 2 downclocked Kryo cores should be A72 like power not A53?
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Where did you find that the 2 lower clocked are indeed A53s? What I have read, SD820 has 2 high clocked 2.15GHz and 2 low clocked 1.59GHz "Kryo cores"? So those 2 downclocked Kryo cores should be A72 like power not A53?
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Hmm not sure, but pretty sure they aren't the same cores as the faster ones, as that way they could just have clocked them higher, and have them downclock instead of having them at 1.59Ghz all the time.
GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
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GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
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Ouch i think for sd820 we have to wait a bit since its us and China only
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GFX Bench battery and throttling test of exynos variant. From 2800 frames to 1400 in 10 minutes of load. http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=707315&view=findpost&p=47363269
If some1 find snapdragon s7 results, please post it here.
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Says the test ran for 220 minutes. EDIT: Okey that was the results of the battery-test. But still where did you get 10 minutes from? If you look at the graphs you can clearly see that it dips only once to 1400 and that was at about the 1200 second mark (20 minutes).
http://www.talkandroid.com/286767-vivo-xplay-5-gets-benchmarked-on-antutu/#more-286767
Vivo Xplay 5 scored around 160k on Antutu and that is with the Snapdragon 820. Think Samsung should have stuck with Qualcomm for all regions this time around. Wish we could get the sd-version here in Europe as well.
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Vivo Xplay 5 scored around 160k on Antutu and that is with the Snapdragon 820. Think Samsung should have stuck with Qualcomm for all regions this time around. Wish we could get the sd-version here in Europe as well.
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Its probably fake as most of the score comes from GPU which is impossible and then theres 1080p vs qhd screen question
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Throttling looks much better compared to 7420.
They have made GPU wider and lower frequency, also better manufacturin process. Bound to get better compared to 7420.
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Its probably fake as most of the score comes from GPU which is impossible and then theres 1080p vs qhd screen question
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Yes, in latest version of Antutu it gives more priority to onscreen numbers and single core performance. That's why iPhones are at top of chain in Antutu
Hmmmm what a difference! This is very bad performance for a 1400 dolar phone. And what's your score on the Galaxy S20 Ultra?
https://youtu.be/LfZUNL5hyVw
Scores on these things are useless, not worth watching the video
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Definitely don't waste your time on watching such a useless video with cheesy "royalty free" muzak.
My S20 Ultra feels as smooth as my iPad Pro 2018. Which is saying a LOT!
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Hmmmm what a difference! This is very bad performance for a 1400 dolar phone. And what's your score on the Galaxy S20 Ultra?
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Simply put you are comparing apple to oranges. The Huwaei phone does not have any Google services so not all things can be considered equal here.
Until the Huweai is a real Android phone with Google services than this comparison is null and void.
EDIT: Also, Huweai has been caught doing unscrupulous things before. So gaming the benchmark system would not at all surprise me.
S20 ultra results doesn't make sense to me. You can download an app called androbench to test the storage speed. This is my score from Exynos S20U 5G
I don't put much stock in Benchmarks (particularly Antutu) it really doesn't give you anything - the best way to test a phone is using the phone and feeling how it works - how fast it is - how smooth - etc....
having said that, for grins and giggles I ran Antutu on my S20Ultra and the results were totally different from the video - so, take that video with a grain of salt....on any Benchmark Test - YMMV...
Geekser said:
I don't put much stock in Benchmarks (particularly Antutu) it really doesn't give you anything - the best way to test a phone is using the phone and feeling how it works - how fast it is - how smooth - etc....
having said that, for grins and giggles I ran Antutu on my S20Ultra and the results were totally different from the video - so, take that video with a grain of salt....on any Benchmark Test - YMMV...
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Snapdragon version right?
Aezhyr said:
Snapdragon version right?
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Yes.
Geekser said:
Yes.
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The max i got on my exynos was 527k.
Huge difference to your score. I know benchmarks aren't everything but still...
Does the Snapdragon version heat up? Even just opening the camera for a while I start feeling the phone just a bit warm next to the camera (the processor location)
Was wondering if the SD has the same issue.
I'm considering returning the exynos and import the SD version from Korea or Hong Kong
Snapdragon here, cold as ice.
Aezhyr said:
The max i got on my exynos was 527k.
Huge difference to your score. I know benchmarks aren't everything but still...
Does the Snapdragon version heat up? Even just opening the camera for a while I start feeling the phone just a bit warm next to the camera (the processor location)
Was wondering if the SD has the same issue.
I'm considering returning the exynos and import the SD version from Korea or Hong Kong
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Just do a search on Samsung Community Forums or on Google and you will find the Exynos s20s run hot! This being just from basic tasks. Samsung really blew it this time with their Exynos chipset. Only way they can fix this is by throttling in a future update which would make the Chipset even slower than it is now vs the Snapdragon. The Snapdragons are much cooler and battery life is fantastic.
If you want to compare performance I'll run 3dmark and you do the same on yours. Exynos vs Snapdragon.
Benchmark Results
Slingshot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 7367
Graphics score 8400
Physics score 5151
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6709
Grapics score 8249
Physics score 4058
This was with Power mode set to high performance - FHD 2400x1080 - 120hz
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Just do a search on Samsung Community Forums or on Google and you will find the Exynos s20s run hot! This being just from basic tasks. Samsung really blew it this time with their Exynos chipset. Only way they can fix this is by throttling in a future update which would make the Chipset even slower than it is now vs the Snapdragon. The Snapdragons are much cooler and battery life is fantastic.
If you want to compare performance I'll run 3dmark and you do the same on yours. Exynos vs Snapdragon.
Benchmark Results
Slingshot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 7367
Graphics score 8400
Physics score 5151
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6709
Grapics score 8249
Physics score 4058
This was with Power mode set to high performance - FHD 2400x1080 - 120hz
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I did that test the other day with me phone set to high performance as well. The results were pretty disappointing:
Slings Shot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 6696
Graphics score 8473
Physics score 3862
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6220
Graphics score 8724
Physics score 3103
The graphics score aren't bad, but the physics ones are downright sh**.
Aezhyr said:
I did that test the other day with me phone set to high performance as well. The results were pretty disappointing:
Slings Shot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 6696
Graphics score 8473
Physics score 3862
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6220
Graphics score 8724
Physics score 3103
The graphics score aren't bad, but the physics ones are downright sh**.
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Get the Snapdragon
Aezhyr said:
The max i got on my exynos was 527k.
Huge difference to your score. I know benchmarks aren't everything but still...
Does the Snapdragon version heat up? Even just opening the camera for a while I start feeling the phone just a bit warm next to the camera (the processor location)
Was wondering if the SD has the same issue.
I'm considering returning the exynos and import the SD version from Korea or Hong Kong
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I have never had any heat issues - playing games it might get slightly warm, but that could be because I am holding it close in my hands and my hands are warm, if you know what I mean....I love this phone - it is the beast it was expected to be - original camera issues (focus problems) seem to be better - maybe not perfect but definately better - I am very happy with this phone....hope you can work things out so you are too - good luck.
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I have never had any heat issues - playing games it might get slightly warm, but that could be because I am holding it close in my hands and my hands are warm, if you know what I mean....I love this phone - it is the beast it was expected to be - original camera issues (focus problems) seem to be better - maybe not perfect but definately better - I am very happy with this phone....hope you can work things out so you are too - good luck.
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I'm not saying I'm not happy, but I open the camera for 5 minutes and CPU goes to 65°C +, it's insane. The performance is great, but no "ultra" like the Snapdragon version
I love this phone, but it's like loving a Ferrari with a Fiat Punto engine! The design is amazing, the screen and etc. But I feel like I'm being ripped off by paying 10% more for a phone that's 10% worse.