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i just got this tablet, i wanted to know has anybody rooted this device.
i have tmobile tablet.
i am also looking for a good rom.
is 7.0 nougat on this tablet rooted?
thank you...
louiedee279 said:
i just got this tablet, i wanted to know has anybody rooted this device.
i have tmobile tablet.
i am also looking for a good rom.
is 7.0 nougat on this tablet rooted?
thank you...
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Here TWRP and ROOT method.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/recovery-official-twrp-gteslte-galaxy-t3419219
As of August 25 or 26, 2017, the current updated FireOS version is 5.4.0.1. Last build date prior to this was on May 31, 2017. As of this post, the updated OS is not yet available on Amazon's site.
Please comment if you receive any errors when attempting to 'uninstall' Amazon Apps, whether automatically or manually. Some users report errors.
Please download Droid Examiner or Droid Hardware Info or a like minded app (these types of apps vary from developer to developer. I use these two primarily).
Droid Examiner: Tap build and look at the time. It will have the date of the last build updated to your tablet.
build.prop (/system/build.prop): Look for these values. Please post dates and versions if possible. Last Kernel patch for 5.4.0.0 was for June 2017.
Does anyone know if it can be downgraded back to 5.4.0.0?
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Jake1702_ said:
Does anyone know if it can be downgraded back to 5.4.0.0?
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Unknown. But 5.4.0.0 CAN be downgraded to 5.3.2.1.
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Unknown. But 5.4.0.0 CAN be downgraded to 5.3.2.1.
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I downgraded mine from 5.4.0.0 to 5.3.2.1 today. It was time for a reset anyway. I did as you said and uninstalled the ota junk so it will stay at 5.3.2.1.
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I downgraded mine from 5.4.0.0 to 5.3.2.1 today. It was time for a reset anyway. I did as you said and uninstalled the ota junk so it will stay at 5.3.2.1.
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I haven't done a reset in a while and I too think I am needing one now that I have most of the system function apps worked out. I think it's time to start experimenting again before I flash my Fire 7 and my phone with custom ROMs.
It's absolutely ridiculous to me that in waning stages of 2017, Amazon is still clinging onto Android Lollipop.
Technocian said:
It's absolutely ridiculous to me that in waning stages of 2017, Amazon is still clinging onto Android Lollipop.
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Why? It is their Fire OS and they don't want you accessing Oreo or Nougat features, besides, Amazon has there own security patches it it makes no since for them to use a different version, right?
savvytechwinner said:
Why? It is their Fire OS and they don't want you accessing Oreo or Nougat features, besides, Amazon has there own security patches it it makes no since for them to use a different version, right?
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Between Nougat and Lollipop, there are barely any visually noticeable differences.
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Technocian said:
It's absolutely ridiculous to me that in waning stages of 2017, Amazon is still clinging onto Android Lollipop.
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What advantage would an Android 6/7/8 base bring to this device given how it is marketed? Newer is not always better depending on objectives. These aren't positioned as generic Android gizmos.
Davey126 said:
What advantage would an Android 6/7/8 base bring to this device given how it is marketed? Newer is not always better depending on objectives. These aren't positioned as generic Android gizmos.
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The option to use to use the external storage as adopted storage for example.
Hallo32 said:
The option to use to use the external storage as adopted storage for example.
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Well wait for FireOS 6 I guess. It doesn't seem like anyone wants to make a ROM for the device that uses 6+.
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Jake1702_ said:
Well wait for FireOS 6 I guess. It doesn't seem like anyone wants to make a ROM for the device that uses 6+.
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Doesn't really care if you have root.
By the way, is there a diff available between 5.4.0.1 and 5.4.0.0?
Hallo32 said:
Doesn't really care if you have root.
By the way, is there a diff available between 5.4.0.1 and 5.4.0.0?
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I'm assuming that like with 5.3.2.0 and 5.3.2.1, it's a bootloader update possibly with an anti-rollback feature. I may be proven wrong, but we'd need someone running 5.4.0.1 to take the risk and try downgrading.
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The option to use to use the external storage as adopted storage for example.
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Apps that utilize symbolic linking (eg: Apps2SD; Link2SD) accomplish this while allowing a portion of the SD card to still be used for sharing files with other devices. Adopted storage is great until you pull the SD card or it goes bad. Then things get interesting (as in lost). That said, adopted storage does has an advantage in setup and usability. Pretty much forget about it once established.
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Jake1702_ said:
Well wait for FireOS 6 I guess. It doesn't seem like anyone wants to make a ROM for the device that uses 6+.
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As you are probably aware talented volunteer contributors can not build a 6.x based ROM for a device with a locked bootloader -and- restricted 5.1 kernel base. "Want" is not the issue ...
@Davey126
I know the risk and as always, don't forget the backups or don't cry.
Apps like Apps2SD and Link2SD are an alternative. But hasn't there been any problems widgets?
Davey126 said:
Apps that utilize symbolic linking (eg: Apps2SD; Link2SD) accomplish this while allowing a portion of the SD card to still be used for sharing files with other devices. Adopted storage is great until you pull the SD card or it goes bad. Then things get interesting (as in lost). That said, adopted storage does has an advantage in setup and usability. Pretty much forget about it once established.
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As you are probably aware talented volunteer contributors can not build a 6.x based ROM for a device with a locked bootloader -and- restricted 5.1 kernel base. "Want" is not the issue ...
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I'd say as soon as root is made for anything 5.3.2.1+, the main focus should be shifted towards unlocking the bootloader.
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Jake1702_ said:
I'd say as soon as root is made for anything 5.3.2.1+, the main focus should be shifted towards unlocking the bootloader.
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Unlocking the bootloader is not a trivial job.
Jake1702_ said:
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Is this line really necessary?
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Unlocking the bootloader is not a trivial job.
Is this line really necessary?
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It's possible if we try.
I don't know if you've ever used Tapatalk, but I can't do anything about that line showing up.
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Unlocking the bootloader is not a trivial job.
Is this line really necessary?
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A lot of time and work has been put into trying to unlock the bootloader. If it were not 'trivial' I'm sure someone might have done it already. Even the rooted HD 7s with custom ROMs have a locked bootloader.
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It's possible if we try.
I don't know if you've ever used Tapatalk, but I can't do anything about that line showing up.
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Any ideas how it can be done?
Yes, I had used Tapatalk in past and there has been an option to deactivate the line.
DragonFire1024 said:
A lot of time and work has been put into trying to unlock the bootloader. If it were not 'trivial' I'm sure someone might have done it already. Even the rooted HD 7s with custom ROMs have a locked bootloader.
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I know it, and that is the point why I wrote, that it is not trivial.
PLEASE PROVIDE LINKS TO RELEVANT ARTICLES AND FILES WHEN UPDATING THE SHEET!!!!
I don't know if it's possible to make a chart through the forums, but I was hoping you folks might be able to help me out and other users as well.
I created a Google Doc which has a few versions of the Fire OS listed and whether or not they are rootable, downgradable, can have OTA blocked, get Google Apps and have a replacement launcher.
Maybe it's a silly idea, but I figured I'd give it a shot. The sheet for now is open to all with a link. Please feel free to add more versions, information, links (in the via columns?) to instructions, etc.
5.4.0.1 can be downgraded to 5.4.0.0 https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/fireos-5-4-0-1-downgrade-t3671406
Very good, and overdue, idea.
Some remarks, as I cannot use a Google account:
There's no 5.3.3.3 - you mean 5.3.3.0
Sometimes 5.4.0.0 is referred to as 5.3.4.0 (that's the version string that shows up in several places)
Although "5th gen Fire 7" should be clear enough, please add the "ford" codename in a prominent place
It would be good to collect download links for stock firmware
Is it still worth listing versions < 5.3.2.1? I think so, they are the rootable ones.
Any moderator around? This one deserves to become sticky as soon as the empty cells have been filled.
steve8x8 said:
Very good, and overdue, idea.
Some remarks, as I cannot use a Google account:
There's no 5.3.3.3 - you mean 5.3.3.0
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Yes. Corrected, thanks!
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Sometimes 5.4.0.0 is referred to as 5.3.4.0 (that's the version string that shows up in several places)
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I've only seen 5.4.0.0. I don't find anything with a Google search either.
steve8x8 said:
Although "5th gen Fire 7" should be clear enough, please add the "ford" codename in a prominent place
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Added Ford to the Top of the post. I'm not sure if you can edit the title.
steve8x8 said:
It would be good to collect download links for stock firmware
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That's where I am hoping other folks would be able to help.
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Is it still worth listing versions < 5.3.2.1? I think so, they are the rootable ones.
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I think so and for the same reasons. Whether a method comes out to downgrade to a rootable version before 5.3.2.1 or for those that don't want to go beyond for some reason.
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I appreciate it, but I'm not sure how far that will go. Apparently some of the information is encompassed here. It's missing some of the latest information and is not organized in a way for my mind to process it very well. That's not to say it isn't organized, just hard for me to process it.
Greetings,
I want to confirm I'm understanding this spreadsheet correctly. My FireOS is 5.6.2.0, am I able to just pick and downgrade to an earlier firmware version that will allow rooting ? Or do I need to downgrade in the correct order to get back to a rootable earlier version: downgrade 5.6.2.0 > 5.6.0.1 > 5.6.0.0, etc... Or am I just out of luck and stuck with no option to root?
Mike The Menace said:
Or am I just out of luck and stuck with no option to root?
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Correct - no 'downgrade to root' path for 5th-7th gen 7" or 8" Fire devices starting at with any build of FireOS > 5.3.2.0
Davey126 said:
Correct - no 'downgrade to root' path for 5th-7th gen 7" or 8" Fire devices starting at with any build of FireOS > 5.3.2.0
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Okay and one last question, an I able to downgrade at all? From a couple other threads I read it seemed as if downgrading to 5.4 might yield some customization?
Mike The Menace said:
Okay and one last question, an I able to downgrade at all? From a couple other threads I read it seemed as if downgrading to 5.4 might yield some customization?
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Downgrading to 5.4 will allow removal of *some* Amazon bloat with various restrictions. You can also install Google's Play store for access to a wider selection of apps. See relevant threads in the General section for more details.
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Downgrading to 5.4 will allow removal of *some* Amazon bloat with various restrictions. You can also install Google's Play store for access to a wider selection of apps. See relevant threads in the General section for more details.
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Okay but I'm able to downgrade to 5.4 from 5.6.2.0?
Mike The Menace said:
Okay but I'm able to downgrade to 5.4 from 5.6.2.0?
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Best read the relevant threads. Some claim success going directly to 5.4 from 5.6.2. Others take an incremental approach: 5.6.2->5.6.1->5.4.1->5.4.0. I personally believe a direct download is possible and safe but don't have direct experience to back that statement (all my Fire 7's are early 5th gen; rooted and TWRP bootable; most never saw FireOS).
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Best read the relevant threads. Some claim success going directly to 5.4 from 5.6.2. Others take an incremental approach: 5.6.2->5.6.1->5.4.1->5.4.0. I personally believe a direct download is possible and safe but don't have direct experience to back that statement (all my Fire 7's are early 5th gen; rooted and TWRP bootable; most never saw FireOS).
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Ok, thank you so much! I have 2 that my daughters use and was just trying to breathe some new life into them and clear up some space.
kindle fire 7 5th gen. fireos 5.6.2.0 -> downgrade or lineageos ?
Mike The Menace said:
Ok, thank you so much! I have 2 that my daughters use and was just trying to breathe some new life into them and clear up some space.
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Hello Mike,
did you have success? I´m looking for a possibility to get a custom rom on my fire 7 5th gen - do you have any idea if its possible ?
thanks
gauki said:
Hello Mike,
did you have success? I´m looking for a possibility to get a custom rom on my fire 7 5th gen - do you have any idea if its possible ?
thanks
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If your 5th gen device is running FireOS 5.3.2.1 or higher it can not be rooted - hence no custom ROMs. Been that way for 2 years and unlikely to change. The needle isn't moving on this one.
and so...
so no developper can make rooting possible on 5.3.2.1 and upper in the future ?
avatarma said:
so no developper can make rooting possible on 5.3.2.1 and upper in the future ?
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If it were that simple root would have been achieved on these builds long ago. Google and Amazon have closed vulnerabilities that made root exploits easy. While it's possible another weakness will be discovered the chances are quite low IMHO.
you are right , and if that damned bootloader was not locked......so only hopes remains
Is it possible to downgrade from 5.6.2.0 to 5.6.0.1. ?
I am on 5.6.2.0 and i want to try to downgrade to 5.4.0.0 to remove amazon apps. Is there any chance to do it? Sorry for my bad english
Gengis26 said:
Is it possible to downgrade from 5.6.2.0 to 5.6.0.1. ?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Ok, can you give me some informations? Is there a thread to understand in which way?
Gengis26 said:
Ok, can you give me some informations? Is there a thread to understand in which way?
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You will need to find a 5.6.2.0 bin (source file). Check the 'debloating' threads as it's probably not directly downloadable via the Amazon support page; only the most recent build is referenced. Note: Amazon also maintains links to all prior builds. Just gotta find the url which is obscure.
Once you have the file it is simple to install via the stock recovery menu. Lots of documentation on that procedure in the Fire forums or via Google search.
Of course, you gotta decide if the benefit is worth the hassle. Probably not.
Is there any way without rooting the device? From Hydrogen OS (10.0.7) to Oxygen OS?
jayphee18 said:
Is there any way without rooting the device? From Hydrogen OS (10.0.7) to Oxygen OS?
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Nope. Normally MSM tool would be the method, but MSM tools have been made to not flash devices other than the device they were designed for starting with this device. Root will be the only method of there is a way going forward. Only 7 Pro and older will allow for this.
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Nope. Normally MSM tool would be the method, but MSM tools have been made to not flash devices other than the device they were designed for starting with this device. Root will be the only method of there is a way going forward. Only 7 Pro and older will allow for this.
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Thanks for the response I tried to install an open beta Oxygen OS and it worked, so perhaps install the stable version after?
jayphee18 said:
Thanks for the response I tried to install an open beta Oxygen OS and it worked, so perhaps install the stable version after?
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Wait, are you on the chinest variant or the TMO?
champ784 said:
Wait, are you on the chinest variant or the TMO?
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yes chinese variant HD1910
jayphee18 said:
yes chinese variant HD1910
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Oh that's why. Sorry, I always assume people are referring to the TMO 5G variant from the US. In that case, conversion works!
good morning,
I have made several attempts but can't downgrade from UNUSABLE andoid 12 to the latest stable android 11 version.
i used rollback but it doesn't work,
who can help me?
fracost said:
good morning,
I have made several attempts but can't downgrade from UNUSABLE andoid 12 to the latest stable android 11 version.
i used rollback but it doesn't work,
who can help me?
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You can always use the MSM Tool and then upgrade back to the version you want.
BillGoss said:
You can always use the MSM Tool and then upgrade back to the version you want.
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Is this absolutely safe? I was going to wait for the official instructions to rollback, but if I can do it this way, I wont wait.
DPirer said:
Is this absolutely safe? I was going to wait for the official instructions to rollback, but if I can do it this way, I wont wait.
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Of course it is!
And the official instructions for rolling back to OOS 11 are already in the OPO announcement of OOS 12 in https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/oxygenos-12-for-the-oneplus-8t.1555060/
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Of course it is!
And the official instructions for rolling back to OOS 11 are already in the OPO announcement of OOS 12 in https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/oxygenos-12-for-the-oneplus-8t.1555060/
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Yes, but not for the EU version.
Welp, if it is safe I'll give it a try.
The EU version is the KB05BA? WWhat do those numbers mean? My phone says KB2005 although it was KB2003 before the ****ty update.
DPirer said:
Yes, but not for the EU version.
Welp, if it is safe I'll give it a try.
The EU version is the KB05BA? WWhat do those numbers mean? My phone says KB2005 although it was KB2003 before the ****ty update.
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To my knowledge, you can flash any of the different variants (KB05AA,-BA,-BD,...) on any phone and they'll work.
So you can use the roll back zip, which takes you back to OOS 11.11, and then install the version you want (KB05BA) of OOS 11.13.
I don't know what they mean, but I assume KB is for kebab, and AA is for the global variant, BA is for the EU variant, and BD is for the Indian variant.
But that naming convention seems to have gone out the window with OOS 12.
BillGoss said:
To my knowledge, you can flash any of the different variants (KB05AA,-BA,-BD,...) on any phone and they'll work.
So you can use the roll back zip, which takes you back to OOS 11.11, and then install the version you want (KB05BA) of OOS 11.13.
I don't know what they mean, but I assume KB is for kebab, and AA is for the global variant, BA is for the EU variant, and BD is for the Indian variant.
But that naming convention seems to have gone out the window with OOS 12.
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It is a pleasure to inform you that I was able to rollback to Android 11. At first I used the EU MSM Tool but I got the DDR error, so I tried the International one and it worked without any issues. I must admit I was pretty nervous tbh. I used to do this a lot on my xiaomi mi max 2, but this phone is quite expensive to end up with a brick xd.
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then install the version you want (KB05BA)
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Where could I choose the version to update? I've already successfully downgraded to 11.11. Now I would like to update to last 11 stable version. Thank you very much in advance!
Nirnic said:
Where could I choose the version to update? I've already successfully downgraded to 11.11. Now I would like to update to last 11 stable version. Thank you very much in advance!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/oneplus-8t-rom-ota-oxygen-os-repo-of-oxygen-os-builds.4193183/ I downloaded the last flashable zip from here and I am now in the last stable version
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/oneplus-8t-rom-ota-oxygen-os-repo-of-oxygen-os-builds.4193183/ I downloaded the last flashable zip from here and I am now in the last stable version
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Thank you very much!! Did you need to backup your data? Did you lose it on updating?
Nirnic said:
Thank you very much!! Did you need to backup your data? Did you lose it on updating?
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No need, you don't lose anything, the phone remains the same. In fact, it updates itself from the SO.
My kb2005 now shows it has ddr5 since updated to oos12.
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My kb2005 now shows it has ddr5 since updated to oos12.
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Should I go back to oos11?
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My kb2005 now shows it has ddr5 since updated to oos12.
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Are you absolutely sure it wasn't ddr5 before the update (it's a hardware thing, not software)?
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Should I go back to oos11?
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No.
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Are you absolutely sure it wasn't ddr5 before the update (it's a hardware thing, not software)?
No.
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Yup bought my 8t at launch with ddr4x, phone now reporting its ddr5
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Yup bought my 8t at launch with ddr4x, phone now reporting its ddr5
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In that case, Wow!
So I went to check what my phone thinks it is (I'm also on OOS 12) and to my surprise ro.boot.ddr_type doesn't exist!
So, now I'm asking "Why do you think you are now ddr5 (a physical impossibility)?"
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I'm that case, Wow!
So I went to check what my phone thinks it is (I'm also on OOS 12) and to my surprise ro.boot.ddr_type doesn't exist!
So, now I'm asking "Why do you think you are now ddr5 (a physical impossibility)?"
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yes i get ram is physical just asking why i see in a cpu monitor app it reads ddr5 when i have ddr4x.
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yes i get ram is physical just asking why i see in a cpu monitor app it reads ddr5 when i have ddr4x.
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CPU X tells its ddr5 quad channel
Blazekitten said:
yes i get ram is physical just asking why i see in a cpu monitor app it reads ddr5 when i have ddr4x.
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I checked what AIDA64 thinks my phone is and it says ddr4 (it's actually ddr5).
So I guess we shouldn't take any notice of what apps report.
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I checked what AIDA64 thinks my phone is and it says ddr4 (it's actually ddr5).
So I guess we shouldn't take any notice of what apps report.
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Okay just a annoying bug, probably doesn't mean much