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[Rollback][Downgrade][Thor][Apollo] 3.2.8 rollback-OTA captured

This is only for 3rd gen devices (2013) - Kindle Fire HDX 7 (Thor) and Kindle Fire HDX 8.9 (Apollo) !
After Installing this update your device will be restored to factory defaults, please backup your data.
After Installing this update your need to disable OTA immediately!!!​You can downgrade from 4.5.5.1 and earlier versions to 3.2.8.
From 3.2.8 you can manually upgrade to 4.5.2.
Put roolback file into the Internal storage folder of your Kindle.
Swipe down from the top of the screen to open Quick Settings, and then tap Settings. Tap Device, and then tap System Updates. Tap Update.
If Kindle do not find update try to do this with wifi off.
Download for HDX 7 (Thor)​Yandex Disk - https://yadi.sk/d/SuxQf-u2f3MGo
Baidu mirror (Provided by FotixChiang, pass - joi6) http://pan.baidu.com/s/1jGux15s
Google Drive - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2twXJIOgv-UdzBBSUNkTGtZMmc/view?usp=sharing
Download for HDX 8.9 3rd gen (Apollo)​Yandex Disk - https://yadi.sk/d/qHZ3TL7NfPfMT
Google Drive - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2twXJIOgv-UalRFZEl3dG1jYUk/view?usp=sharing
Stock 4.5.2 and other firmwares - http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/update-1314-4-1-1-probably-sangria-t2901813
Root for 4.5.2 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59156161&postcount=56
Disable OTA on 4.5.2 + Install GApps - http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/general/tut-disable-ota-4-5-2-install-gapps-t3043550

quick question
ONYXis said:
Uploaded just for information and examination.
Do not try to flash until somehow it is proved that it is safe (or is it work at all?).
You can brick your device!
i was wondering i had amazon rollback my kindle to 13.3.2.8 i have it rooted but i want to roll back a bit futher so i can install roms so if amazon rolled me back can i still rollback once more?
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Rebel4206 said:
ONYXis said:
Uploaded just for information and examination.
Do not try to flash until somehow it is proved that it is safe (or is it work at all?).
You can brick your device!
i was wondering i had amazon rollback my kindle to 13.3.2.8 i have it rooted but i want to roll back a bit futher so i can install roms so if amazon rolled me back can i still rollback once more?
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You cannot downgrade deeper than 13.3.2.8 if I understood your question.
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ONYXis said:
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Big thanks. I checked it found nothing special and copied it to the internal storage of my 4.5.3 device. Disabled Wifi and run the update from the settings menu. Now my device is on 13.3.2.8.
How did you grab it?

Phate123 said:
How did you grab it?
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through local proxy
Now my device is on 13.3.2.8.
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Thanks.

Hello,
Can I ask how you managed to run the update from the settings menu?
I Don't see an option to run updates from there! I too am already on 4.5.3 and would rather like to rollback to an earlier version if it is indeed possible using this rollback file.
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Varlock said:
Can I ask how you managed to run the update from the settings menu?
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Put roolback file into the Internal storage folder of your Kindle.
Swipe down from the top of the screen to open Quick Settings, and then tap Settings. Tap Device, and then tap System Updates. Tap Update.
If Kindle do not find update try to do this with wifi off and reboots after each steps.

Just want to confirm it worked on my 4.5.3 too... switched wifi off first and all seems good !

Rollback from 4.53 to 3.2.8 also confirmed for me!

Many thanks ONYXis, that worked perfectly! I too can confirm that it worked and I have rolled back from 4.5.3 to 3.2.8.
Can hardly believe it was that easy. Now too look around some more to find out what I can do now I am finally rooted.
Thanks for your help.
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Just had a thought, as we effectively rolled back our devices, does that mean we will NOT get ota updates from Amazon now? It would be pretty handy if they didn't work oat now. Save is from worrying about losing root access

has anyone tried this on 4.5.2?

ONYXis said:
Uploaded just for information and examination.
Do not try to flash until somehow it is proved that it is safe (or is it work at all?).
You can brick your device!
Succesfull expirience - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59258028&postcount=4
Link (Thor) - https://yadi.sk/d/SuxQf-u2f3MGo
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Kudos !!!!!
Wish same can be done with Apollo but there seems no point as there's no TWRP / unlocked bootloader.
I'm not trying to point finger at your work just saying if bootloader unlock can be achieved for Thor or Apollo over 13.3.4.8 ~ ish versions....
edit : please add "Thor" to your title [emoji1]

ONYXis said:
Rebel4206 said:
You cannot downgrade deeper than 13.3.2.8 if I understood your question.
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My question is it safe to downgrade once more jumping firmware to firmware might cause issues I would like to downgrade once more but i was told by amazon I could not update my kindle after being rolled back is that just auto update being turned off and I could roll back again.
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thank you very much
ONYXis said:
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Thank you for ONYXis, I could roll back from 13.4.5.3 to 13.3.2.8 with this uploaded file.

nice
exellent it works, but now its wiped lol never mind here comes root!

Can I rollback from 4.5.3 to 3.2.8, then upgrade to 4.5.2 to root, 'cause I only need Gapps ?

titanworm said:
Can I rollback from 4.5.3 to 3.2.8, then upgrade to 4.5.2 to root, 'cause I only need Gapps ?
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yes, you can

ok I am also back to 13.3.2.8 thank you.
its been a few years since I did anything like this, in fact since I got a nexus 7 (2012), I am now downloading stock rom 4.5.2 which i need to install (download seems to be very slow (10 hours to go !!)
then I try to root

apollo?
any hope to get the corresponding apollo update?

dimi5 said:
any hope to get the corresponding apollo update?
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I need someone who already roolbacked pming me. we could try to catch.

hdx 8.9 generation 3 4.5.3

Anyone that can be done to this one root and gapps or anything?

ajac said:
Anyone that can be done to this one root and gapps or anything?
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Depends on what you mean. You say 3rd gen, I assume you are talking Apollo, correct? If so, you may be able to roll back to 3.2.8 & from there upgrade to 4.5.2, which can be rooted.

GSLEON3 said:
Depends on what you mean. You say 3rd gen, I assume you are talking Apollo, correct? If so, you may be able to roll back to 3.2.8 & from there upgrade to 4.5.2, which can be rooted.
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Where can I download 3.2.8? All I an find is 3.5.7.6 and then 4+.

ajac said:
Where can I download 3.2.8? All I an find is 3.5.7.6 and then 4+.
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You need to be on 4.5.2 (or lower) to rollback. If your device is at 4.5.3 (or higher) you're stuck with Fire OS and no root. To roll back start here. READ, READ and READ some more. You won't find many tutorials. Don't expect to pull off rollback/upgrade/root/gapps in an evening. HDX is a tough bird; easy to brick with limited recovery options. Do you homework before flashing anything.
Good luck.

Oh never mind. I got them to rollback now rooted with twrp now to try some custom roms

ajac said:
Oh never mind. I got them to rollback now rooted with twrp now to try some custom roms
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Great! If you post again please include current fw level, etc. Those who responded (including me) assumed you had a newer device and based responses accordingly. Trying to get my head around "got them to rollback" and "now rooted with twrp". Rollbacks usually don't conclude with twrp unless you start at 3.2.6 or below.

Well it was the 3rd generation Apollo with 4.5.3 on it. Contacted customer service told them it had all sorts of issues he went ahead pushed back a roll back to 3.2.8. Then I went ahead and rooted it using the KFHDX toolkit. Originally safestrap wouldn't boot into recovery until I updated it to safestrap-Apollo 3.75-0s3.2.4-b02. Now have twrp was able to flash thro-gapps-installer1.zip. also disabled OT updated.
Current version 14.3.2.8_user328003120
build number date monday december 7 2914 1':19pm mst

ajac said:
Well it was the 3rd generation Apollo with 4.5.3 on it. Contacted customer service told them it had all sorts of issues he went ahead pushed back a roll back to 3.2.8. Then I went ahead and rooted it using the KFHDX toolkit. Originally safestrap wouldn't boot into recovery until I updated it to safestrap-Apollo 3.75-0s3.2.4-b02. Now have twrp was able to flash thro-gapps-installer1.zip. also disabled OT updated.
Current version 14.3.2.8_user328003120
build number date monday december 7 2914 1':19pm mst
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Thanks. Some important tid-bits in your post:
- Amazon rolled back an Apollo (!) which they have been reluctant to do of late. No one has been able to capture the 3.2.8 OTA image which would be a tremendous help to users who are marooned at 4.5.x. While it may be too late can you fire off a PM to @ONYXis as he has a method for capturing the image file? Thanks in advance!
- You referenced 3.2.8 and twrp. Do you mean Safestrap which is derived from twrp? If you indeed have twrp installed with 3.2.8 then you have accomplished something that no one else has!

Davey126 said:
Thanks. Some important tid-bits in your post:
- Amazon rolled back an Apollo (!) which they have been reluctant to do of late. No one has been able to capture the 3.2.8 OTA image which would be a tremendous help to users who are marooned at 4.5.x. While it may be too late can you fire off a PM to @ONYXis as he has a method for capturing the image file? Thanks in advance!
- You referenced 3.2.8 and twrp. Do you mean Safestrap which is derived from twrp? If you indeed have twrp installed with 3.2.8 then you have accomplished something that no one else has!
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The version of safestrap I used was deprived from twrp it looks like but boots into it and lets me flash and put custom roms on. Just fired off my pm and about to do it for him hopefully I can capture it.

Okay had to do it twice but he should have captured it at least one time hope it works for everyone.

ajac said:
Okay had to do it twice but he should have captured it at least one time hope it works for everyone.
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Holly cxxp! I sure hope it worked for the benefit of Apollo users. Thank you so much!!

Davey126 said:
Holly cxxp! I sure hope it worked for the benefit of Apollo users. Thank you so much!!
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lol your welcome! I am just shocked amazon pushed it without to much trouble I guess i said the right thing lol

Custom ROM / CM on HD 8?

I am interested, and I am sure others are as well in removing Amazon's bloatware from their decent tablet.
I know the $49 tablet has done it, I am just wondering about compatibility.

It would be so awesome if we got CM-12.1 on the HD 8.

nyln said:
I am interested, and I am sure others are as well in removing Amazon's bloatware from their decent tablet.
I know the $49 tablet has done it, I am just wondering about compatibility.
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nyln said:
It would be so awesome if we got CM-12.1 on the HD 8.
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Would be awesome. Hopping this happens. But before this can happen we would first hear of a custom recovery option for the HD10 like TWRP. Which is more complicated then making a Rom. After that Roms can be next.
Hopefully a couple of good developers can get their hands on some HD10's to get them developing for them. :fingers-crossed:
Note: Missed the part that you where asking about HD8's not HD10's. But since HD10's are the only of the two that are rootable at the moment. I would think the HD10's are more likely to get recovery & Roms.

- I have been looking into the HD8 and HD10
- They seem to use the same firmware - both are codenamed 'thebes'
- All the known exploits have been fixed up by amazon making these devices well locked down
- The devices use the MediaTek 8135 and this has proved very difficult to work with
- The Amazon HD6 uses the same processor and while I was able to get CM-11 working, there were problems with video playback, bluetooth etc
- Getting TWRP to work on these devices has a low probability
- However if we get a working version of FlashFire for these devices then there is a possibility for a custom ROM.

ggow said:
- I have been looking into the HD8 and HD10
- They seem to use the same firmware - both are codenamed 'thebes'
- All the known exploits have been fixed up by amazon making these devices well locked down
- The devices use the MediaTek 8135 and this has proved very difficult to work with
- The Amazon HD6 uses the same processor and while I was able to get CM-11 working, there were problems with video playback, bluetooth etc
- Getting TWRP to work on these devices has a low probability
- However if we get a working version of FlashFire for these devices then there is a possibility for a custom ROM.
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Humn... Wonder if kingroot has ever been tested on the older FW on HD8 since they are the same as HD10's. Don't own one so haven't paid attention to HD8's.
Forgot about FlashFire, which would be great for HD10/HD8. Is there a way to request FlashFire support. Maybe the developer might just need some info/files from us to get it going.

Y314K said:
Humn... Wonder if kingroot has ever been tested on the older FW on HD8 since they are the same as HD10's. Don't own one so haven't paid attention to HD8's.
Forgot about FlashFire, which would be great for HD10/HD8. Is there a way to request FlashFire support. Maybe the developer might just need some info/files from us to get it going.
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I haven't ask Chainfire yet, he's seems to have a lot on his plate.
I can confirm Kingroot works on the HD8 and therefore the HD10.
I don't own either devices but was able to borrow an HD8 for a small amount of time and I managed to gain root access with the latest version of KingRoot.

ggow said:
I haven't ask Chainfire yet, he's seems to have a lot on his plate.
I can confirm Kingroot works on the HD8 and therefore the HD10.
I don't own either devices but was able to borrow an HD8 for a small amount of time and I managed to gain root access with the latest version of KingRoot.
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Please ask Chainfire at least what he would need from us so we can get them ready for him.
I knew HD10 was KingRootable. But did not know about HD8. Thanks for verifying that. I don't even have the HD10 anymore myself. But do have long distance access to it. I gave it to a family member. But I hope to still get CM12.1 or other ROM on it for them to get the full Android experience. Hope it happens.
I do have a few 7"rs here. Thanks a lot for the ROMs you've release for it. :good:

I have had no issues with roots, Kingroot works great on all versions.
I used FlashFire which worked great, didn't need a custom recovery on Fire 7".

I can confirm that root works on the HD8, and I had the latest update

dementio said:
I can confirm that root works on the HD8, and I had the latest update
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Good to know. So both tablets just need a working FlashFire & then some ROM's...

I have asked Chainfire about Flashfire support here

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I have asked Chainfire about Flashfire support here
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"- The three devices are the Amazon Fire HD6, HD8 and HD10. The HD8 and HD8 share the same firmware." needs to be changed to "- The three devices are the Amazon Fire HD6, HD8 and HD10. The HD10 and HD8 share the same firmware.". Thanks for requesting this. Will add a ditto to that thread.

Y314K said:
"- The three devices are the Amazon Fire HD6, HD8 and HD10. The HD8 and HD8 share the same firmware." needs to be changed to "- The three devices are the Amazon Fire HD6, HD8 and HD10. The HD10 and HD8 share the same firmware.". Thanks for requesting this. Will add a ditto to that thread.
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HD 6 is a 4th generation device
Amazon Fire Tablet Specs https://developer.amazon.com/appsan...ications/01-device-and-feature-specifications
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HD 6 is a 4th generation device
Amazon Fire Tablet Specs https://developer.amazon.com/appsan...ications/01-device-and-feature-specifications
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Ahhh... Had missed that. But the hardware seems to be just about the same on the chart. Hopefully the FW shares as much too.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66356902&postcount=2991
Chainfire said:
In case of issues, immediately after rebooting back into Android:
- Post /sdcard/FlashFire/lastlog
- Post /proc/last_kmsg
The latter may not be present, and is replaced on every reboot. So if you rebooted twice, no sense posting it. Please, post these things to http://pastebin.com/, so I don't need to download and open these files manually.
If you are ready to start messing around with it, this is how you get the BETA:
- Go to: https://play.google.com/apps/testing/eu.chainfire.flash
- Use the link provided on that page to download the app. Note that it may take minutes to even hours before the provided link actually works.
If you have no idea what any of the above means, you might want to wait with playing with this until proper instructions are available, and more people have tested it.
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Chainfire has now responded requesting logs of folks trying to run FlashFire on the three tablets. Instructions about logging is quoted above from the OP @ the FlashFire thread.
I don't have immediate access to the HD10 tablet. So someone else with a HD10 will need to do the testing to get the logs. We will need to find at least one tester per tablet. More then one would be good too.
Guess will need folks with HD6, HD8 & HD10 tablets to ROOT & install FlashFire v31 & try to run it & save both logs to show Chainfire. Make sure you label which tablet, what FirmWare, what KingRoot & which FlashFire version you are using. Let us know which tablet you'll be testing on below.
Addendum: You can get the v31 FlashFire APK from ChainFire's G+ post:
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/8WB78xvY2oM
And check here for future updates:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/chainfire/flashfire/
Just sideload it as an app.

Y314K said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66356902&postcount=2991
Chainfire has now responded requesting logs of folks trying to run FlashFire on the three tablets. Instructions about logging is quoted above from the OP @ the FlashFire thread.
I don't have immediate access to the HD10 tablet. So someone else with a HD10 will need to do the testing to get the logs. We will need to find at least one tester per tablet. More then one would be good too.
Guess will need folks with HD6, HD8 & HD10 tablets to ROOT & install FlashFire v31 & try to run it & save both logs to show Chainfire. Make sure you label which tablet, what FirmWare, what KingRoot & which FlashFire version you are using. Let us know which tablet you'll be testing on below.
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I went to that site, became a tester, clicked on download and got "We're sorry, the requested URL was not found on this server." URL was above + &ah=85V10sckvT5AVUb5tiYpFApIDBs. I have an HD 10.

MyNDIrish said:
I went to that site, became a tester, clicked on download and got "We're sorry, the requested URL was not found on this server." URL was above + &ah=85V10sckvT5AVUb5tiYpFApIDBs. I have an HD 10.
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Great. You can just get FlashFire from ChainFire's G+ post:
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/8WB78xvY2oM
And here for future updates:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/chainfire/flashfire/
Just sideload it as an app.

MyNDIrish said:
I went to that site, became a tester, clicked on download and got "We're sorry, the requested URL was not found on this server." URL was above + &ah=85V10sckvT5AVUb5tiYpFApIDBs. I have an HD 10.
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Never mind. Tried it one more time (after posting (arghhhh!)) and it worked.

OK. I got my fire 8 on Wednesday. (Fire OS 5.0.1 - 5.1.1 downloaded and is waiting for me to install since I turned on WiFi.)
(Fastboot mode is just a black screen, no logo whatsoever, seems to respond to commands.)
Tried a few different root methods. (All failed.)
This afternoon I finally gave in, setup WiFi and used kingroot. After a few reboots, thankfully no auto fire updates, I finally got root os. (No root in adb.)
Installed SuperSU and get stuck updating binary.
FlashFire will not work since I don't have SuperSU or cm permissive.
Help.
How do I get rid of kingroot and install SuperSU?
Note :
I am very uncomfortable using kingroot.
I prefer root methods that do not require online access.

ipdev said:
How do I get rid of kingroot and install SuperSU?
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http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2015/05/How-to-Remove-Replace-KingUser-KingRoot-with-SuperSU.html
install terminal emualtor, download the zip, and run the script
reboot
then wipe cache

FireOS 5.3.1.0 source code released

The source code for FireOS 5.3.1.0 has just been released:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200203720
Fire (5th Generation)
Fire_7inch_LC_5.3.1.0.tar.bz2
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Attempting to downgrade to an earlier version will most likely result in bricking your device (now confirmed).

Look like they skip 5.2.1.0.
Unless it a typo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS

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Look like they skip 5.2.1.0.
Unless it a typo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_OS
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There has never been a public release of 5.2.x

I'm sure about that. Beta. Turn into Released with a number change.

Dunard said:
I'm sure about that. Beta. Turn into Released with a number change.
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Yep - not uncommon.

It looks like only the Amazon Fire TV devices had a 5.2.1.0 release:
Amazon Fire TV Device Software Updates
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201497590
Amazon Fire TV
Latest Software Version: 5.2.1.0_user_550144920
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Went ahead and installed 5.3.1.0 on the 8gb tablet since I don't use it very much. The other one still have the custom ROM.

Dunard said:
Went ahead and installed 5.3.1.0 on the 8gb tablet since I don't use it very much. The other one still have the custom ROM.
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Did you get it via an OTA update? The binary release page is still on 5.1.4:
Fire (5th Generation) Software Updates
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201830180
Determine your software version
If you have the latest software update, it should look like this: Your device is running Fire OS 5.1.4.
Download Fire (5th Generation) software updates
Download Software Update 5.1.4
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Know what. You right. Version 5.1.4. I thought it 5.3.1.0. I guest there no ROM yet. Just the source. lol

Kinda new here as I am looking to buy a Kindle Tablet.
When FireOS gets updated, do Amazon put in the latest android security patches? I think Google still releases it for Lollipop.
Reason for this is reading up, to sideload the Playstore you need to disable the OTA, but if the security patch is included then that is something I need to consider.

springy said:
Kinda new here as I am looking to buy a Kindle Tablet.
When FireOS gets updated, do Amazon put in the latest android security patches? I think Google still releases it for Lollipop.
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yes
Reason for this is reading up, to sideload the Playstore you need to disable the OTA, but if the security patch is included then that is something I need to consider.
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disabling updates is not necessary, for google framework
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disabling updates is not necessary, for google framework
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Ah that is convenient.
So in theory when 5.3.1.0 hits OTA, none of the Google Play Services, framework, Store, should be disabled and delete right if it is already installed?

springy said:
Ah that is convenient.
So in theory when 5.3.1.0 hits OTA, none of the Google Play Services, framework, Store, should be disabled and delete right if it is already installed?
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sure, but Google framework will work better with a custom rom like cm12.1
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springy said:
Ah that is convenient.
So in theory when 5.3.1.0 hits OTA, none of the Google Play Services, framework, Store, should be disabled and delete right if it is already installed?
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sure, but Google framework will work better with a custom rom like cm12.1
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Keep in mind Google Framework (Services, Store, etc) compatibility is not assured across FireOS updates. Historically this was more of a problem with FireOS v4 which didn't play well with Google components. Even if it does break someone will likely come up with a fix in short order. That said, I fully agree with @sd_shadow: go with a custom rom for the most favorable experience.

Davey126 said:
Keep in mind Google Framework (Services, Store, etc) compatibility is not assured across FireOS updates. Historically this was more of a problem with FireOS v4 which didn't play well with Google components. Even if it does break someone will likely come up with a fix in short order. That said, I fully agree with @sd_shadow: go with a custom rom for the most favorable experience.
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How to root a Kindle Kid's Edition that came stock with 5.3.1? I already bricked one following RootJunky's supposed foolproof way to unbrick or downgrade to 5.1.2 to be able to root the device.

fusion01k said:
How to root a Kindle Kid's Edition that came stock with 5.3.1? I already bricked one following RootJunky's supposed foolproof way to unbrick or downgrade to 5.1.2 to be able to root the device.
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You can't.

fusion01k said:
How to root a Kindle Kid's Edition that came stock with 5.3.1? I already bricked one following RootJunky's supposed foolproof way to unbrick or downgrade to 5.1.2 to be able to root the device.
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5.3.1.0 cannot be downgraded or rooted
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What are the chances that a work around will be realeased? Are they at least greater than zero?

jmorlin said:
What are the chances that a work around will be realeased? Are they at least greater than zero?
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Please don't cross post. Annoying finding the same inquiry in multiple threads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/ama...pdates-5-1-4-to-5-3-1-0-t3419849/post67865926

Dave and Shadow. Some of the Google Play Store games will crashes on custom ROM's. Wonder 5 Masters works better on FireOS with Google Play Store installed with less crashes. Just pointing this out.

Released - Fire OS 5.6.0.1

Interesting, one of my Fire TB HD8 (7th Generation) has just updated from 5.6.0.0 to 5.6.0.1.
I wonder what this release has for us - who knows, Amazon might even have addressed the battery drain and SD Card issues we have been seeing of late.

Got this update today. Nothing seems different.

Is rooting / debloating possible? I cannot find "any" information regarding to this patch.

mono666 said:
Is rooting / debloating possible? I cannot find "any" information regarding to this patch.
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No root. It *may* be possible to rollback to FireOS 5.4.0.0 which is eligible for partial "debloating". To my knowledge no one has tried that from 5.6.0.1 yet. An invalid rollback will irreversibly brick the device.

It seems that sideloading no longer requires locking and unlocking your fire.

AndroidSemiPro said:
It seems that sideloading no longer requires locking and unlocking your fire.
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Not sure what this means; locking/unlocking has never been a prerequisite for ADB sideload from stock recovery. Are you referring to side loading apps from within FireOS?

Re. rooting kindle fire. It seems this is not possible (at least on the Fire 5th gen.) Is this because no-one has worked out the details of the procedure yet or is there something about the Fire OS which makes it unrootable?

Talladale said:
Re. rooting kindle fire. It seems this is not possible (at least on the Fire 5th gen.) Is this because no-one has worked out the details of the procedure yet or is there something about the Fire OS which makes it unrootable?
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There are no known vulnerabilities in 5th gen FireOS builds above 5.3.1 that can be exploited to secure root privileges. It has nothing to do with working out the "details of the procedure". Rather someone needs to find an 'unlocked door' that does not lead to a dead end. Google and Amazon have been working hard to close such loopholes as root access pretty much breaks Android security.

Davey126 said:
There are no known vulnerabilities in 5th gen FireOS etc.
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I take it this situation is unlikely to improve (from the rooting point of view). So are more devices (phones in particular) likely to become unrootable in the future?

Talladale said:
I take it this situation is unlikely to improve (from the rooting point of view). So are more devices (phones in particular) likely to become unrootable in the future?
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It's happening now and for the past several years. Fewer devices can be rooted as vulnerabilities (security loopholes) are identified and squashed. This is partially offset by increasing capabilities/refinement in newer Android versions. There is less of a 'need' to root although the desire will always be a priority among a small subset of enthusiasts (of which I associate with).

Davey126 said:
No root. It *may* be possible to rollback to FireOS 5.4.0.0 which is eligible for partial "debloating". To my knowledge no one has tried that from 5.6.0.1 yet. An invalid rollback will irreversibly brick the device.
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I rolled back from 5.6.0.1
I got this as a gift so had little choice but to switch it on & show willing & of course it updated.
Whilst looking into it I found the rollback tool, then when I went to use it the tablet was already on 5.6.0.1. However as it was well within warranty & I know amazon are great with returns I just gave it a go.
All worked exactly as it should have.

Anybody tried rollback on a 5th Gen?
I am getting SD Card issues and Performance issues!
Can anybody try to rollback on 5th Gen??

Fire 0s 5.6.0.1
I hope Amazon will include the option to mirror soon. I can't understand why they never included it as i would love to use kod i on my kindle fire he 8 7th generation and mirror to my roku streaming stick.

Sgandy said:
I hope Amazon will include the option to mirror soon. I can't understand why they never included it as i would love to use kod i on my kindle fire he 8 7th generation and mirror to my roku streaming stick.
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Answered your own question: using a competitors streaming stick/tool (roku). Amazon will never add mirroring support for another product. If it happens to work with non-Fire devices fine.
Also see: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201453020

FoxForceFive said:
I rolled back from 5.6.0.1
I got this as a gift so had little choice but to switch it on & show willing & of course it updated.
Whilst looking into it I found the rollback tool, then when I went to use it the tablet was already on 5.6.0.1. However as it was well within warranty & I know amazon are great with returns I just gave it a go.
All worked exactly as it should have.
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Thanks for the reply. Could you let us know what tools you used? I'm looking for whatever I can do to de-Amazon my Fire 5th Gen running 5.6.0.1.

Fixed the Install button being greyed out when sideloading apps, so no need for the workarounds that was needed to get button activated when using Fire 5.6.0.0

ssayres said:
Thanks for the reply. Could you let us know what tools you used? I'm looking for whatever I can do to de-Amazon my Fire 5th Gen running 5.6.0.1.
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I just used the downgrade & debloat utility tool.