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Looking for infos on Joying Head Unit for my crazy project :)

Hi All,
I'm about to attempt to upgrade my Harley RoadGlide's radio.
REEAALLLY like the fact that it will be a all-in-one solution (GPS/Radio etc)
Here is the plan:
Joying 8.8" 4gb /32gb Android 8 unit
Adaptor for 1 DIN radio ( Harley factory is a off the wall size more like a 1-1/2 DIN )
Module to retain handlebar controls (Works like a steering one)
Marine amp (with the remote power on a manual switch so I can shut the speakers off)
Bluetooth transmitter to send music to headset if needed
Before anybody points out the obvious, yes I know the unit is not marine grade..
This leads me the my first question:
How much heat does the display generate?
I was thinking on taking the bezel off, wrapping the whole back in vinyl up and over the edge of the glass and then putting the bezel back on. This would seal the display part since there is not reset/mic/pwr holes in the glass..
Mating the display with the body will be thru a custom device with seals to prevent water getting in at the connectors.
As for the "main" body it is pretty much protected being in the fairing. I will need a heatsink/fan but I think it will be ok.
Now on the operational question:
Can a bluetooth headset be connected directly to the unit? (For listening to music)
Any tips/advice?
Anybody ever done this?
Thanks !

Ok.. just ordered the 8.8" single din 4gb model.
Was 25% off. Black Friday sale. What can go wrong ??
Good thing about that model is that it is solid glass.. no reset/mic holes.. should make it easier to weatherproof.
The fun will begin when the unit gets here.
Lots of config/testing to do before I shoehorn that puppy in the bike.
I'll post pics if people are interested.
Been testing a couple of GPS apps on my tablet right now ahead of the integration and so far Sygic and Osmand are the best I found. Following a preplanned route is a must( ie to not deviate from the plan) , so if anybody has insight please point me in the right direction ?
Patiently awaiting the arrival of the unit...

The beast is here!!
Just received my unit ?
Got to say it is very well packaged
Will setup and start the testing soon.
Stoked!!!!!

Update/ Questions
Hi All,
Well.. the testing is going well.
So far i am able to get all my music audio to the Bluetooth headset by using a transmitter connected to the RCA output.
I had to use an external USB power for the dongle because the transmitter is "recognized" as a USB keyboard by Joying
I am using the soft button on the unit to turn the amp on/off when I want to use the headset.
I am able to use ZLink as well to connect the phone to the unit.
To have the headset capability for phone, I need to have the headset paired with the headset first.
Then I connect the phone to the unit using ZLink/Android Auto on 1 USB input
I can use the radio's display to control the phone and make calls.
All audio/mic is done by the headset. Yeah!
Only 1 problem.. The Joying keeps on wanting to connect Bluetooth to the phone.. Pops a request every so often..
Any way of turning this off? Only happens when Zlink is active...
If I connect the radio to the phone, it kicks the headset off...
Any way to disable Bluetooth entirely on the unit?
Unit is now rooted and I have installed JET.
Waiting for my handlebar controls converter in order to test "steering" functions.
Cheers!

Junior_1967 said:
Any way to disable Bluetooth entirely on the unit?
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Can't you do that from the settings? Simply switch off Bluetooth?
Or is that when Joying keeps nagging to switch on Bluetooth? ("wanting to connect" can mean to connect because BT is active, or first wanting to switch it on and then connect)

I tried..
The Zlink app automatically turns bluetooth on I believe.
The bluetooth is off in my Joying settings.
It only happens when the Zlink window is "active"
So when I first connect I press cancel on my phone when the request comes in.
All good until I minimize the windows then re-activate it. Then another request comes in from the Joying unit...
I tried to disable the bluetooth in the app settings and Zlink refuses to open.
There is no "access to bluetooth" in the Zlink app settings..
Really more of an annoyance then anything else as I can just cancel the request...
Would really be nice to have some decent bluetooth settings on the unit to be able to connect any devices or change settings.
Or have some ZLink settings to not start bluetooth on demand since it's already been taken care of by the headset...
Thanks for the suggestion
Cheers,

Problem solved! Android Auto using headset instead of Radio for audio
Hi have solved the problem of Bluetooth wanting to connect all the time.
Solution: First time the popup comes in on the phone when connecting USB to the radio (I used Headunit Reloaded but ZLink should be the same), accept and enter proper password (0000)
Once connected, on the phone Bluetooth settings change Joying Radio to No Phone, No Media.
The next time it will not ask to connect and won't kick out the other Bluetooth (Headset)
Android Auto has to be in developers mode to not care which Bluetooth it is using:
To enable it, open the Android Auto app on your phone and choose About from the left menu. Tap the About Android Auto header text about 10 times and you'll see a prompt to enable developer options. Accept it, then hit the three-dot Menu button and choose Developer settings-> Application mode "Developer"
On to the next challenge!
Cheers!

This sounds interesting. Any pics on the install?

Yes pics please, what are doing are weather proofing the head unit or are you a fair weather rider

Android Auto not coming up on 2020 Subaru Outback

Hi.
Just got a 2020 Subaru Outback. When I connect my Essential with USB cable, nothing happens (other than charging). Works fine on my wife's '19 Nissan Rogue.
Also connected my wife's Samsung Galaxy S8 to Subaru, no problems - Android Auto popped up right-a-way.
Any '20 Subaru Outback, Legacy owners here?
Thanks

This should probably be under Question Answers.

>Nothing happens other than charging
Have you looked under your notifications to see if the USB options are set to charging only? I've never used Android Auto but I know I have to set it to File Transfer every time I plug my phones into my computer, otherwise it only charges.

I had the same issue, but by connecting a unpowered USB hub it should work. I know it sounds stupid, but give it a try.

@levpri I've got a Crosstrek and I was having similar issues. When I got the car I'd found a thread that mentioned a bunch of working and not working USB A to C cables. I ended up getting a couple of these cables and I've not had a problem since.
Amazon Anker Cable

Anker cable. Plug into car first, then phone.

Did you get it going?
I use AA on my outback /18 without issues got a new phone that was on android 10 now my AA not longer works, it connects I get my maps but it won't take any voice commands from the steering wheel.
not sure if it's my LG phone or that it's because it's on Android 10 I may try my old samsung phone set it back up tomorrow just to test.
levpri said:
Hi.
Just got a 2020 Subaru Outback. When I connect my Essential with USB cable, nothing happens (other than charging). Works fine on my wife's '19 Nissan Rogue.
Also connected my wife's Samsung Galaxy S8 to Subaru, no problems - Android Auto popped up right-a-way.
Any '20 Subaru Outback, Legacy owners here?
Thanks
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Android Auto not functioning with Android 10
levpri said:
Hi.
Just got a 2020 Subaru Outback. When I connect my Essential with USB cable, nothing happens (other than charging). Works fine on my wife's '19 Nissan Rogue.
Also connected my wife's Samsung Galaxy S8 to Subaru, no problems - Android Auto popped up right-a-way.
Any '20 Subaru Outback, Legacy owners here?
Thanks
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I'm having the same issue. I have a new Subaru Outback 2020. My Samsung S8 connected with AA with no problems. I just got a new Samsung Note 20 5G, running Android 10. Now Android Auto is not launching the map. I get voice driving instructions but no map. I see on my phone, a notification saying the phone is connecting to AA, but it eventually goes away and still no map showing on the head unit. I've tried several different USB-C to USB-A cables and none of them help with this issue. Google markets they've improved AA access by combining it with the Android operating system. Unfortunately, they don't seem to have done sufficient testing with this change. Typical of software giants sending out updates without full testing and ensuring it's functional.
GOOGLE: Get your act together! This is a serious issue. AA is supposed to aid drivers and the map on the head unit stops individuals looking at their phone. Well, you've just increased the chance of a crash now. It won't surprise me if GOOGLE gets sued for someone's death.
If anyone finds an update or resolution to this problem, PLEASE post the fix!!!
PS: We should not have to go through this ridiculous back and forth just to link Android Auto from our phone to our car. This is the 21st century, is it not? We send people to the moon, have smart(?) applicances, and even self-driving cars. Surely, we should be able to get a simple mapping system to show up on a car head unit!

Have you gone into your Android auto settings by any chance? It's an integrated app now so there's no icon for it in Android 10 (depending on phone).
You should be able to easily find it by using the search bar in the app drawer on a Samsung and it will find it in settings. Search key words "Android Auto".
I have both an Essential and Samsung Note9. My Essential phone still has the actual app on stock. I have had more trouble with Essential connecting to AA.
If you haven't tried anything in settings, you could look there and forget all cars to clean it up and start fresh. You could enable developer settings similar to actual Android and try things in those settings. You'll be able to change/set:
> Application Mode (Developer gives AA Server)
>Add wireless projection to settings
>Clear all data
>Unknown Sources
>Debug options
>Video Resolution
>And more...
Might have to experiment. Good luck!

levpri said:
Hi.
Just got a 2020 Subaru Outback. When I connect my Essential with USB cable, nothing happens (other than charging). Works fine on my wife's '19 Nissan Rogue.
Also connected my wife's Samsung Galaxy S8 to Subaru, no problems - Android Auto popped up right-a-way.
Any '20 Subaru Outback, Legacy owners here?
Thanks
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I started receiving the same "Launching error.. check clock or upgrade google play services" error all of a sudden while I was on a road trip on 2020 subaru outback.
I noticed the time in the display console was off by 1hr so it was definitely some clock issue so I manually tried to set it but still the android auto won't connect. I figured there was some Subaru software issue because when setting the daylight saving to AUTO it was not sowing the correct info, while previously there was no issue with AUTO settings.
Then I tried my wife's phone and same issue.
I tried different cables and same issue.
I tried factory reset of subaru console from settings but still the same issue.
Then I came across some other post and tried the android auto phone app downgrade approach but it didn't work either. With lower phone app version it was not supported to connect to the subaru outback so the phone app forced me to download and install updates again. And then the same issue.
Finally, I went to the service center and asked them to look into this. They checked and fixed the issue in 3-4 hrs. They verbally told me that they updated the head unit and that fixed the issue. And then in the inspection report they had exactly mentioned as below:
"Performed inspection of vehicle and was able to verify customer concern of vehicle not being able to access android auto or apple car play, found TSB 15-261-20R which has an available update for the stereo head unit. Will perform update to make sure latest software is installed. Apple car play is now working. Old software version was F11GHM042-380 new software version is F11GHM072-582"
This is as of 17th Dec 2021. Since then the android auto is working fine.
I am sharing this post so that in case nothing works for you, try showing this message to subaru service center guys to help you fix the issue.
Hope this helps!

Aftermarket Android Unit with Apple CarPlay

Hey everyone. I recently picked up an aftermarket Android Auto/Apple CarPlay unit for my 2014 Lexus IS. The unit I have is Android 10 with a Snapdragon MSM8953 Qualcomm Processor. I have a couple of issues that I need help with.
The unit connects to my phone through Bluetooth but as far as the hotspot goes, it doesn’t connect at all. Z-Link needs a hotspot connection and my unit doesn’t automatically turn it on for my phone to connect to.
Basically the same as #1 but my Bluetooth doesn't connect and when I do connect it, the hotspot automatically starts up and I have internet connection. So it's a hit or miss when it comes to Bluetooth connecting or hotspot connecting. One connects but the other doesn't. Vice versa.
I’ve noticed in many other peoples Z-Links, in its settings they have the option to “Connect Automatically”. I’m not given that option at all. Is there any sort of thing I can do to make Z-Link start automatically? Rather than having to press the application every time I start the car?
I am assuming that once I figure out how to open the z-link application automatically, both issues 1 and 2 will fix each other.
I appreciate the help! Thank you!

itsZerotec said:
Hey everyone. I recently picked up an aftermarket Android Auto/Apple CarPlay unit for my 2014 Lexus IS. The unit I have is Android 10 with a Snapdragon MSM8953 Qualcomm Processor. I have a couple of issues that I need help with.
The unit connects to my phone through Bluetooth but as far as the hotspot goes, it doesn’t connect at all. Z-Link needs a hotspot connection and my unit doesn’t automatically turn it on for my phone to connect to.
Basically the same as #1 but my Bluetooth doesn't connect and when I do connect it, the hotspot automatically starts up and I have internet connection. So it's a hit or miss when it comes to Bluetooth connecting or hotspot connecting. One connects but the other doesn't. Vice versa.
I’ve noticed in many other peoples Z-Links, in its settings they have the option to “Connect Automatically”. I’m not given that option at all. Is there any sort of thing I can do to make Z-Link start automatically? Rather than having to press the application every time I start the car?
I am assuming that once I figure out how to open the z-link application automatically, both issues 1 and 2 will fix each other.
I appreciate the help! Thank you!
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itsZerotec said:
Hey everyone. I recently picked up an aftermarket Android Auto/Apple CarPlay unit for my 2014 Lexus IS. The unit I have is Android 10 with a Snapdragon MSM8953 Qualcomm Processor. I have a couple of issues that I need help with.
The unit connects to my phone through Bluetooth but as far as the hotspot goes, it doesn’t connect at all. Z-Link needs a hotspot connection and my unit doesn’t automatically turn it on for my phone to connect to.
Basically the same as #1 but my Bluetooth doesn't connect and when I do connect it, the hotspot automatically starts up and I have internet connection. So it's a hit or miss when it comes to Bluetooth connecting or hotspot connecting. One connects but the other doesn't. Vice versa.
I’ve noticed in many other peoples Z-Links, in its settings they have the option to “Connect Automatically”. I’m not given that option at all. Is there any sort of thing I can do to make Z-Link start automatically? Rather than having to press the application every time I start the car?
I am assuming that once I figure out how to open the z-link application automatically, both issues 1 and 2 will fix each other.
I appreciate the help! Thank you!
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Hy. I had the same Problem with the same Unit in the same Car. I ordered a "only DATA sim for tablets" from my Provider and installed it on the internal sim-slot from the Unit, and my Problem was gone.
The Unit himself can not handle Thethering (also named as Hotspot) with a Cellphone AND the (Carplay-Anroid Auto) Connection to the Unit.
(BT is only to handshaking in the first step but then wlan is used to use Android Auto or Carplay function of this Unit)

Connect more than 1 iPhone to Zlink possible?

Hi,
I just got my Android Head Unit installed in my car with Zlink to use Carplay. I am an experienced computer and iPhone user but have never worked with Android or an Android Head Unit. Can I and if so how do I connect a second iPhone to Zlink and Carplay?

only one device can be displayed

makiavelic1 said:
only one device can be displayed
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I know that because I have Carplay in my other car. But both I and my wife use this car and I can't find where/how to connect her phone too? When Carplay opens there are no such options so it must be in Zlink somehow?

that is in the iphone carplay settings and the radio automatically connects to the last paired device

I understand that but where do I add the second phone? Shall I turn mine off and let Zlink look for a new phone?
I have a problem that people can barely hear me on the phone. The Carplay volume was also very low but that I managed to fix with Siri talking and at the same time increase the volume on the steering wheel. Also it takes a very long time before Zlink / Carplay starts when starting the car. The guy I bought it from asked me to reset the unit.
First time I used it I connected wifi in Zlink but now on a video i saw the guy connected hot spot in Android. Which way should I use now after resetting the unit?
And thanks for your help!

you = I understand that, but where do I add the second phone? Do I turn mine off and let Zlink search for a new phone?
=yes, cancel your pairing and let the second phone connect

Ok got it. Can I make other settings in Zlink by opening the app?

not much

You forgot to tell me where I should connect my wifi? To Android system as hot spot or in Zlink option? My unit has a SIM card installed if that makes any difference?
The Bluetooth as I understand I will connect on OEM phone app?

carplay works with wifi and bluethoo transmission the sim is only to give internet to the android system (google maps etc) not for carplay actually carplay is on your mobile and mirrors your radio

the rest already in google

makiavelic1 said:
carplay works with wifi and bluethoo transmission the sim is only to give internet to the android system (google maps etc) not for carplay actually carplay is on your mobile and mirrors your radio
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So I should connect both Bluetooth and wifi to Zlink / Carplay?
I don't remember any option to connect BT on Zlink?

I found out today that people can't hear me using Carplay phone because the Android unit uses a built-in microphone on the screen and not Mercedes OEM.
Is this normal?

Headunit Reloaded AA Question

I cannot find the difference between self-mode and USB connection for Headunit Reloaded. Is anyone able to explain the difference?
Also, I have AA 8.7 Coolwalk on my phone but not on Headunit Reloaded. Is there Coolwalk yet for Headunit Reloaded?

Self mode runs as stand-alone without connection to a phone. It uses the built in Android Auto of a device, basically connecting to itself.
USB mode connects to your phone, the standard way you would connect to Android auto.
Self mode allows you to run Android auto on your phone without a headunit. Like you used to be able to before Google removed that feature.
Edit: As long as the AA version you are using supports cool walk, it will output the new features to Headunit Reloaded. Since HU Reloaded is just a receiver for the transmission, there is no change required on that end. Cool walk works fine on the latest version of HUR, if the phone transmitting has coolwalk.

LaurenDanielle said:
Self mode runs stand-alone without connection to a phone. It uses the built in Android Auto of a device, basically connecting to itself.
USB mode connects to your phone, the standard way you would connect to Android auto.
Self mode allows you to run Android auto on your phone without a headunit. Like you used to be able to before Google removed that feature.
Edit: As long as the AA version you are using supports cool walk, it will output the new features to Headunit Reloaded. Since HU Reloaded is just a receiver for the transmission, there is no change required on that end. Cool walk works fine on the latest version of HUR, if the phone transmitting has coolwalk.
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Thanks, that is precisely what I needed to know.