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Figured I would throw this out there.
Does anyone know if the tap and pay feature works on the note 4?
Yeah I know you can use softcard but I would rather give Google the business cause I didn't like how the providers wouldn't let Google wallet work unless hacked. Plus like the fact you can just use any credit card or debit card and not have to deal with selective cards and or American express.
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I've been wondering the same thing.
delcopa said:
Figured I would throw this out there.
Does anyone know if the tap and pay feature works on the note 4?
Yeah I know you can use softcard but I would rather give Google the business cause I didn't like how the providers wouldn't let Google wallet work unless hacked. Plus like the fact you can just use any credit card or debit card and not have to deal with selective cards and or American express.
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Google Wallet is all but dead. It's not the carrier's fault. It's because Google's in the advertising business and wanted to track financial transaction data that the card issuers felt was too invasive. Softcard has a very good chance of succeeding because: A) the sponsoring carrier's want it to, B) they play nice with the financial industry, and C) thanks to Apple, NFC is suddenly the "answer" to electronic payments.
An article on Google Wallet's failure...
To understand why Google Wallet has not taken off, I talked to some of my contacts in the major banks and they explained that it came down to Google's business model. When Google approached the banks and asked them to support Google Wallet, it explained that part of their support meant that they would also feed data back to Google on what people bought and other personal data that Google could use to serve targeted ads. Besides privacy issues, the banks were not thrilled about being forced into a position to feed all types of shopping data back to Google just so Google could make money on ads. Consequently, most banks were not willing to play the middleman and in most cases would not fully support Google Wallet.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2469362,00.asp
When Google/Android were younger they were seen as the underdog against Apple, Microsoft, and Blackberry in the mobile space. Now that they're mature, their thirst for revenue growth is beginning to expose the fact that users of their products and tools are nothing more than data sources with that data being sold to the highest bidder. Google's no longer cute, folksy, or an underdog. They and Facebook are probably two of the largest collectors of personal data being used to generate profit. I love Android the product. Its owners, their behavior, their business model, and lack of transparency not so much.
Softcard is nice & works fine, other than the fact that every banking & credit card I own is incompatible with it & has to be routed through AmEx's Serve card, which doesn't give me the opportunity to choose my method of payment/funding on the fly like I can with Google Wallet. If they would fix that, I'd have no problem using them.
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Softcard is nice & works fine, other than the fact that every banking & credit card I own is incompatible with it & has to be routed through AmEx's Serve card, which doesn't give me the opportunity to choose my method of payment/funding on the fly like I can with Google Wallet. If they would fix that, I'd have no problem using them.
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Financial institutions taking electronic payments seriously is kind of "chicken and egg." Do they invest tons of money in infrastructure hoping that "if they build it they will come" or, instead of being an early adopter, choose to be a "strong follower" once those that went first do the heavy lifting and prove the opportunity? Apple's embracing of electronic payments and NFC has changed the game. You'll see merchants and financial institutions falling all over themselves now to get on the electronic payment bandwagon. We, NFC-equipped Android users, will see the benefit even though Google Wallet itself may not.
I know the tap and pay is working on my son's S5. Still hoping for it on the note 4. My other soon has it on his htc also. So I know it isn't dead working on 2 newer phones after the note 3.
@barry that's what I like about it you have a choice to use pretty much ANY card or bank where softcard your extremely limited.
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I know the tap and pay is working on my son's S5. Still hoping for it on the note 4. My other soon has it on his htc also. So I know it isn't dead working on 2 newer phones after the note 3.
@barry that's what I like about it you have a choice to use pretty much ANY card or bank where softcard your extremely limited.
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When I said "dead" I was referring to its future not its current state. Strategically, the financial industry has better options (for them) that don't require feeding customer data back to Google. All Google's initiatives tie back to supporting their advertising driven revenue model. With their customer data collection objective stone walled what reason do they have to get in to electronic payments? The establishment's embracing of Apple Pay comes from their non-intrusive and non-competitive model and that anything they pay in transaction fees to Apple is offset by a reduction in fraud pay-outs. Why do you think Apple Pay's been so well received (B2B) and Google was stone walled? Outside of Isis/Softcard which is blessed by the financial industry because it's non-disruptive, the only other payment initiative with any heft going on is CurrentC ( http://www.nfcworld.com/2014/09/03/...-payments-venture-mcx-unveils-currentc-brand/ ). It's merchant-driven ($3 trillion in revenue generated by its sponsors) with their goal being to blow-up the financial payment status-quo to lower their fees.
So who's going to succeed?
Apple's "God" and has made nice with the financial industry, doesn't hurt merchants, reduces fraud, and delivers a high-value demographic in massive quantities (10M Apple Pay capable devices were sold in three days).
Softcard which is financial industry friendly, open to any credit card issuer to join, and is sponsored by the wireless carriers which control end-user access.
CurrentC which is merchant driven and who, at the end of the day, are more important to credit card issuers than credit card issuers are to them.
Google Wallet which was launched to gather even more relevant customer behavioral data to sell to advertisers and was never embraced by either the financial industry, the wireless carriers, or merchants.
PayPal's mobile strategy seems a mess. I downloaded their app on my phone and Gear and still couldn't figure out how or why I'd want to use it.
Samsung Wallet is the biggest cluster of a piece of s/w I've ever seen. Its been updated a half-dozen times and its UI/UX is still a mess and unless there was a huge incentive I can't imagine using it for anything. I see it going the way of Samsung Music, Video, and Books eventually.
So it's a three horse race in the U.S. - Apple Pay, Softcard, and CurrentC. None will be exclusive and will probably come to co-exist just as Visa, Mastercard, Amex, and Discover co-exist as card issuers. At the end of the day no one will intentionally stand in the way of a customer sale and none of this is important enough to make a customer use or avoid a specific merchant based on their specific acceptance or rejection of one form of electronic payment or another. The next few years should be fun; especially when every payment terminal in the U.S. is being replaced to support chip-and-pen and will probably all be NFC equipped to be future proof. That'll particularly help Softcard which can rapidly build up an audience which, along with Apple's validation of NFC, should attract card issuers and financial institutions that may have been on the fence. It all comes down to who own/controls the audience and infrastructure. Google and Samsung own neither. PayPal has some infrastructure but its non-parallel.
I would never rule anyone out in the tech field. Things change too quickly just ask blackberry they were the only thing business used. Then MS and apple cane into play for phones. When Google did they were the so called ugly step child. Now blackberry and MS are hurting majorly in the phone business and now there are more android phones worldwide then anyone.
But still doesn't mean anything cause the next great idea could come from an unknown company tomorrow.
I also seem to remember the note when it came out. They also all said it's too big, it's ugly, no one would want it. Even apple busted on it and now, who has the last laugh cause everyone is making the phones bigger just like the note.
I didn't want a debate or opinions cause guess what everyone has one. My only question was WILL TAP AND PLAY WORK WITH THE NOTE 4. Which you still haven't answered. And would you please not high jack my thread unless you can actually answer the question which is why this thread was created.
I can create another thread for a debate on electronic wallets of you would like.
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Just used google wallet tap and pay on my new Att note4 at grocery store.
I have used tap and pay twice, both times it was very quick.
Just open Google Wallet, input your pin, and touch to the NFC, should work fine.
I used it at a Whataburger and a Walgreens.
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