Database Users

Camera is quite capable, the MIUI camera is the weak link.

Here's some shots taken with a 3rd party app called Snap Camera. Enjoy!

Hmm limited file size attachments. Here are links to the originals!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx_9X4Ugo_yaUWZvek1BM1R0TUU/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx_9X4Ugo_yaMkx3VnFDYkoyYXM/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx_9X4Ugo_yaTGgxTVU4QXVGWjA/view?usp=drivesdk

I put Google camera and open camera on mine and while they seem better both are somewhat slow to auto focus and snap oic. For a camera on phone to me that quick snap is important. May try the one you mentioned to see if better.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T817A using XDA Free mobile app

SWBgHz said:
I put Google camera and open camera on mine and while they seem better both are somewhat slow to auto focus and snap oic. For a camera on phone to me that quick snap is important. May try the one you mentioned to see if better.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T817A using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It has zero shutter lag, instant photos, really recommend it. Let me know if you want my settings! I'm not 100% sure but It may be a paid app, i think i'd purchased it sometime in the past.
Edit - Tried Open Camera - not very good output, couldn't get Google Camera to work for some reason.. Snap Camera is definitely the best I've seen so far.

Paulrgod,
Thank you so much for this post. What a difference snap makes. No focus breathing and stabilization built in. Huge win as the camera is so important to me as it is my daily picture taker for my family and the biggest concern for this phone...but not any more.
Thanks again!

No problem, happy to help.
I took some photos of my son playing in the living room the other day and it was awful, unacceptable quality really.
So I decided to see if any other apps would make a difference. The quality of the photos I posted above were better quality than comparison shots I took on my Note 5!
Still struggling in low light a bit though, but I've found keeping the ISO in check, set at 400 / 800 the shots are acceptable, but can be difficult getting it to take the shot.

Those shots are extremely noisy, lacking detail and soft ... they just feature heavy post processing (by the app) to make it more attractive to the average punter - saturation, contrast and smoothing. The camera absolutely isn't capable. In fact, many phones of similar price have better selfie sensors than this phone does main camera ...

Well someone's a bit grumpy. Did you click the links to see the full versions? The attachments in the first post are poor due to size rrestrictions. I'm quite happy with them actually.
They came out better than compatible shots taken at the same time on my Note 5.

Kinda hilarious that an app can do a better job than the phone manufacturer's own software.

I tried Snap camera too, but A Better Camera does better in terms of instant focus, or just it seemed to me
3rd party cams also do better in WB and details.

The camera is absolutely horrendous.
I felt like I went back in time to 2009
I've been using the Samsung Note since it first launched.
The note 5 camera is excellent
The mi mix is profusely bad

CorruptedSanity said:
The camera is absolutely horrendous.
I felt like I went back in time to 2009
I've been using the Samsung Note since it first launched.
The note 5 camera is excellent
The mi mix is profusely bad
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's a matter of perspective. I too ha a note 5 and yes, it's one of the best phone camera's, as well documented through the year the note 5 has been on the market. So, by that logic, nearly every other phone camera will be disappointing.
However, from my unscientific observation of the note 5, Mi Max (not Mi Mix) and Lenovo Phab 2 Pro, the Mix is better than the Max or Phab 2 Pro. Focus and processing is faster and moving targets can be captured with some resemblance to the image photographed.
Could be the SOC (Max and P2P are SD 652 while Mix is SD 821).
I am enjoying the phone, even though the camera is less than really good. I'm willing to trade the 6.4 inch screen and condensed body for the lesser camera.
Just one man's perspective.

audscott said:
It's a matter of perspective. I too ha a note 5 and yes, it's one of the best phone camera's, as well documented through the year the note 5 has been on the market. So, by that logic, nearly every other phone camera will be disappointing.
However, from my unscientific observation of the note 5, Mi Max (not Mi Mix) and Lenovo Phab 2 Pro, the Mix is better than the Max or Phab 2 Pro. Focus and processing is faster and moving targets can be captured with some resemblance to the image photographed.
Could be the SOC (Max and P2P are SD 652 while Mix is SD 821).
I am enjoying the phone, even though the camera is less than really good. I'm willing to trade the 6.4 inch screen and condensed body for the lesser camera.
Just one man's perspective.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Couldn't agree more on the bolded part as an owner of the Note 5 and returned the Phab 2 Pro after less than a week of ownership. Phab 2 Pro could of been a nice phone if they didn't cut corners in certain areas. Then again its all subjective to ones opinion.
Regarding the camera, wished it was as good as Samsung phones but I've used the 6.4" screen more than I've taken pictures so I'm ok with the traded of.

Do you know if this 3rd parry camera is actually capturing a photo and processing it? Or just basically screenshoting the image on the screen like SnapChat does...
Also does it have HDR?

VeryCoolAlan said:
Do you know if this 3rd parry camera is actually capturing a photo and processing it? Or just basically screenshoting the image on the screen like SnapChat does...
Also does it have HDR?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Definitely Capturing and processing the image. Yes it does HDR - of which you can customise a hell of a lot - exposure values, delays between shots etc..
I've never seen a camera app with as many settings as this actually.

I do photography as a serious hobby.
Mix camera has its strength and weakness. (Native app)
The colour balance is quite accurate most of the time but it definitely love to over saturate.
The auto focus is snappy enough.
The auto exposure is surprisingly good as well.
The low light is terrible but ALL phone sucks at it.
HDR works and they keep the effect to the lower end which I like. While pixel has super good HDR results, sometimes the effect is way over used.
I really like the sharpening level they choose. It feel just right (More on the soft side)
Overall I would say the biggest flaw is that it's unreliable. Occasionally the colours are just way over saturated, but hey that's why I have a camera

To anyone that is rooted and has enabled the Camera2 API (adding persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1 to build.prop), give ProShot by Rise Up Games a try. Manual Camera by Geeky Devs Studio doesn't work when I mess with the shutter speed or ISO setting but ProShot does. Now both of these are paid but I'm sure you have Play Reward credit spare

I waited for MIUI 9 to see if it would bring an improvement in the camera application but now that I have it, I don't see any improvement. So I decided for now to use Snap Camera. Can someone tell me what would be the best settings to use Snap Camera in the MIX?

Is the Snap Camera app, better then the Google Camera app downloaded from the Oneplus 5 thread?

Is anyone have a FIX for camera quality, and Snapchat quality ?

Hey all,
I received my LG G6 today, and I loved it. Until I turn on the camera. OMG. Before I had a Nexus 6P, I do not know if it is the Nexus that was exceptionally good or the LG G6 which is exceptionally bad, but I am overly disappointed.
What the hell is this camera quality on the G6? The only interesting thing is the wide angle. But it looks like all the pictures are smoothed out. And I'm not talking about the front-facing camera ... The 2013 flagship were doing better ...
On snapchat it's even worse. The app uses the ratio 18: 9, is made of 2.1 MPX photos with the front camera. And we can not fix it.
Is anyone now if it's the sensors who are completely ****ting where if it's optimizing and working the photo by software that destroys everything?
What is the best way to fix the snapchat quality?
THX

Not sure what the problem is for you guys. I'm very satisfied with the camera quality on my G6. Coming from the G5, I was a bit hesitant after reading reviews, but I have no complaints.

talk to snapchat. their POS software developers are to blame, not the phone. Android snapchat takes a screenshot of your phone as a "picture"

chrisokaly said:
talk to snapchat. their POS software developers are to blame, not the phone. Android snapchat takes a screenshot of your phone as a "picture"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This. Snapchat is a useless pile of do do software which unless you are under 16 you shouldn't even be using lol.
As for normal rear facing photos the quality trumps my S8+ as I now have both phones and the G6 photos are absolutely top drawer.

chrisokaly said:
talk to snapchat. their POS software developers are to blame, not the phone. Android snapchat takes a screenshot of your phone as a "picture"
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow I never knew that, that's just terrible. I know the quality isn't great, but I had no idea that was the process the app takes.
Sent from my LG-H870 using Tapatalk

I went into a store today to play a bit with the LG G6's camera and was also very very disappointed. The light wasn't too good, and only artificial light was available, I took a few shots of the label describing the phone from a distance of about 30cm with both the G6's f/1.8 OIS lens and my 4-year-old Xperia ZR. I set both of the phones' cameras to the highest resolution setting available, took a few shots making sure that the focus worked well, and then zoomed in on both to compare the photos side-by-side. The quality of the G6 photos was horrible, when I zoomed in it looked like really bad compression artefacts. I couldn't find any settings for picture quality, and the guy working there was trying to convince me that switching to 16:9 mode would improve quality, because "it's better". Right! (He also tried to convince me that the quality wasn't good, because it was only 13MP instead of 20MP (or more) like in other phones. I thanked him for his advice and left )
Based on the low-light photo comparison available on gsmarena I was very positively surprised by the picture quality of the G6 and was actually going to get it, yet it seems I've drastically changed my mind after this single experience.
Was I doing something wrong? Are there actually some hidden settings where you can adjust the compression quality like in other phones? I'd love to give it yet another try, if it makes any sense at all that is.

Other phones with compression quality settings ?
Which for example ?
---------- Post added at 03:45 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:43 AM ----------
The G6 tends to focus relatively slowly in low light. Also the low light photos tend to be a little noisy and have a white balance shifted a little to the red.

G6 IQ is really nice actually, Sony processing is easily the worst but see here, I think its pretty decent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-PtwtQFBWg
I made a video on how to increase your snap score. Hope you enjoy it!

Try cleaning the lens first

The biggest issue in my mind is the inconsistency in performance. Under the same conditions of good light, in auto mode, I'll get either a soft dull photo or a sharp and bright one. Manual mode gives a little more consistent results-- my best outdoor shots are taken with -1-1.5 EV, then brightened post processing. Low light photos are pretty crappy overall-- pretty much like snapshots taken on flipphones from 10 years ago.
Its disappointing that I can't dependably get a great photo right "out of the box" (like you can with Samsung's S series) and that I have to fiddle with settings or mess around with modded Gcam software.
I agree that LG could have chosen a better sensor for their flagship phone, or fixed their processing algorithm.
Maybe this is one reason that Samsung has beat LG so badly in sales.

I think we keep coming back for this, but as far as i can say:
LG G6`s camera is pretty good, but tends to have problems with oversharpening, in the dark the pictures tend to looks too noisy, but using google camera app with G6 for low light conditions really does wonders.
About snapchat, as somebody mentioned, snapchat really takes a screen from camera preview, for most the part, the snaps were a so so ok, but after recent updates i also noticed, that front camera in snap has become significantly worse, and also the back cam seems a bit choppy too, so it sure has something to do on their side.

I know I'm late but I also have a G6 and found out how to fix the problem with the camera quality. Snapchat, however will still be as terrible as it is due to the developers trying to make snapchat compatible with all androids using a single app on the Google Play store (smarter if they broke the apps into different phone types likes Samsung and LG). Open up your camera app, click on the cog/settings icon. Change the photo size to 4:3 (13MP) or (5MP) for both front and back facing camera views. For video resolution, change it to FHD 16:9 (60fps) for the back facing and FHD 16:9 for front facing. Hopefully I wasn't too late.
DiversityHD said:
Hey all,
I received my LG G6 today, and I loved it. Until I turn on the camera. OMG. Before I had a Nexus 6P, I do not know if it is the Nexus that was exceptionally good or the LG G6 which is exceptionally bad, but I am overly disappointed.
What the hell is this camera quality on the G6? The only interesting thing is the wide angle. But it looks like all the pictures are smoothed out. And I'm not talking about the front-facing camera ... The 2013 flagship were doing better ...
On snapchat it's even worse. The app uses the ratio 18: 9, is made of 2.1 MPX photos with the front camera. And we can not fix it.
Is anyone now if it's the sensors who are completely ****ting where if it's optimizing and working the photo by software that destroys everything?
What is the best way to fix the snapchat quality?
THX
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

me the quality on snapchat do not bother me especially against I really would like to have a way to select which camera sensor apps should use, I would like to make a snap wide angle
Sent from my LG G6 using XDA Labs

@SilentDeathKami
Unfortunately, I have resell my G6 for that bug. I bought the S8+, it was better but not good. It's due to 18:9 ratio, who seems uncompatible with snapchat. There is the same problem on One Plus 5T, and on all phone who have a 18:9 ratio.
For this reason, I have resell my S8+ and then buy the Pixel XL.
I didn't find any solution for any concerned device. I think we have to wait Snapchat fix.
Snapchat will normally be full rebuild for android on january. I hope it will fix it.

DiversityHD said:
Hey all,
I received my LG G6 today, and I loved it. Until I turn on the camera. OMG. Before I had a Nexus 6P, I do not know if it is the Nexus that was exceptionally good or the LG G6 which is exceptionally bad, but I am overly disappointed.
What the hell is this camera quality on the G6? The only interesting thing is the wide angle. But it looks like all the pictures are smoothed out. And I'm not talking about the front-facing camera ... The 2013 flagship were doing better ...
On snapchat it's even worse. The app uses the ratio 18: 9, is made of 2.1 MPX photos with the front camera. And we can not fix it.
Is anyone now if it's the sensors who are completely ****ting where if it's optimizing and working the photo by software that destroys everything?
What is the best way to fix the snapchat quality?
THX
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Use a ported version of Google camera even tho in my opinion the stock is still very good, and nothing will fix the Snapchat camera til they update it optimised for lg g6

DiversityHD said:
@SilentDeathKami
Unfortunately, I have resell my G6 for that bug. I bought the S8+, it was better but not good. It's due to 18:9 ratio, who seems uncompatible with snapchat. There is the same problem on One Plus 5T, and on all phone who have a 18:9 ratio.
For this reason, I have resell my S8+ and then buy the Pixel XL.
I didn't find any solution for any concerned device. I think we have to wait Snapchat fix.
Snapchat will normally be full rebuild for android on january. I hope it will fix it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you kidding me? You bought and sold 2 phones just to find a 3rd phone that worked better with SNAPCHAT?? SMH.

xphyle1971 said:
Are you kidding me? You bought and sold 2 phones just to find a 3rd phone that worked better with SNAPCHAT?? SMH.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, I did. I'm coming from Nexus 6P, and the LG G6 caméra, except Wide angle, was bad. S8+ camera was good, except the 18:9 ratio who's doing **** on snapchat and all photo apps ( instagram, messenger,etc..).
But I've broken the screen, so I've looked fort the best camera on 16:9 ratio : The Pixel XL. As good as the S8+ for rear, and not ****in zoomed and blurred front facing camera.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Moto Z2 Force come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

So far I'm pretty pissed off with the camera. I recently tested the LG G6, Huawei Mate 9, OnePlus 5, and now the Moto Z2 Force which I was hoping would be my dream phone. I owned the Z Force and so far and a bit disappointed. The Camera seems to have potential but the software is terrible, at least on my specific device. The camera is plagued with shutter lag which really seems to take a toll on picture quality. Pro mode is what really upset me with only having the option of 1/4 for shutter speed as the longest time for exposure. I have taken a great deal of pictures to compare with the phones listed above, so far the Huawei Mate 9 has had the best camera in my opinion. Obviously, this is totally objective as views will change per individual. I am by no means a photography expert, but I am always in search of a great camera in a smartphone. The biggest reason for my angry toward the quality of the Z2F camera is the retail cost of the phone, I really thought this would be a camera I would have loved. It seems like I may wait to see how the Essentials Phone turns out and am very curious about the Nokia 8, both in terms of camera. To date I think the use of a dual camera, one being monochrome and the other RGB, is the best implementation. Please let me know if the inconsistent shutter I'm facing is just a problem with my unit or if other's share it as well. I really had my heart/mind set on this phone being able to go toe to toe with others in its price range. Side note, the LG G6 wide angle lens was great for taking pictures, I was surprised that I liked the secondary camera being a wide angle lens as it allowed for unique perspective. I let go of the LG G6 because my father broke his phone and really thought the Z2F would be the phone of my dreams.
Update: Twist for camera sometimes hangs and after some time force closes. This has also happened on 2 occasions when opening camera app, viewfinder is black followed by hang and crash.

Ksehwail said:
So far I'm pretty pissed off with the camera. I recently tested the LG G6, Huawei Mate 9, OnePlus 5, and now the Moto Z2 Force which I was hoping would be my dream phone. I owned the Z Force and so far and a bit disappointed. The Camera seems to have potential but the software is terrible, at least on my specific device. The camera is plagued with shutter lag which really seems to take a toll on picture quality. Pro mode is what really upset me with only having the option of 1/4 for shutter speed as the longest time for exposure. I have taken a great deal of pictures to compare with the phones listed above, so far the Huawei Mate 9 has had the best camera in my opinion. Obviously, this is totally objective as views will change per individual. I am by no means a photography expert, but I am always in search of a great camera in a smartphone. The biggest reason for my angry toward the quality of the Z2F camera is the retail cost of the phone, I really thought this would be a camera I would have loved. It seems like I may wait to see how the Essentials Phone turns out and am very curious about the Nokia 8, both in terms of camera. To date I think the use of a dual camera, one being monochrome and the other RGB, is the best implementation. Please let me know if the inconsistent shutter I'm facing is just a problem with my unit or if other's share it as well. I really had my heart/mind set on this phone being able to go toe to toe with others in its price range. Side note, the LG G6 wide angle lens was great for taking pictures, I was surprised that I liked the secondary camera being a wide angle lens as it allowed for unique perspective. I let go of the LG G6 because my father broke his phone and really thought the Z2F would be the phone of my dreams.
Update: Twist for camera sometimes hangs and after some time force closes. This has also happened on 2 occasions when opening camera app, viewfinder is black followed by hang and crash.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Camera shutter speed seems to be a stock app issue mostly. I have CameraZoom FX and that works better at taking the picture quickly. I do expect this to improve as the device matures and some updates get pushed out to it.
That being said, the overall photo quality seems to be pretty good overall. The S8 I am leaving does a better job of handling multiple light levels (like say bright window light in an otherwise dimly lit room), but I do think the Z2F has some promise for sure.
I do agree that I think the shutter lag is very 2015.....so hoping Moto does fix that

disappointing camera
Ksehwail said:
The Camera seems to have potential but the software is terrible, at least on my specific device. The camera is plagued with shutter lag which really seems to take a toll on picture quality. Pro mode is what really upset me with only having the option of 1/4 for shutter speed as the longest time for exposure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with this. The camera app is terrible. I came from the HTC 10 into this phone and the HTC blows it out of the water as far as camera quality goes, and I doubt there's any reason for that as far as the sensor/hardware goes There are also other apps that don't seem to access the front flash on this phone, I.E. Instagram, snapchat, etc. could be a driver issue or something, but motorola needs to get it together with the Android O update.

Has any compared picture quality with Open Camera and the google camera app?

Camera App Update
I just noticed that they added two features to the camera app. Object recognition and landmark recognition.They said that they included some bug fixes but did not elaborate. Hopefully they will continue to work on the app and image quality will improve as the phone matures. I think there is potential to improve low light photo's seeing that the black and white sensor should aid low light photography.
So far I am very happy with my photo's. I am a casual user and happy with the images. Realistically I do not think one can expect DSLR quality on a mobile phone. Maybe one day....

I've used several third party apps, and this camera is total trash compared to even my nearly three year old Galaxy S6.. I have to place dramatic Instagram-style filters on everything to hide how crappy this camera is.

I took this picture with full manual mode and it's quite good for me

why not use Hasellblad?

RE910177 said:
why not use Hasellblad?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's only useful for its optical zoom.

Does anyone have problem with autofocus....? The autofocus on this device is absolutely terrible.

Google Camera port is your friend when it comes to the Z2 Force. Also, Snapseed is a great editor.
Sent from my Moto Z (2) using Tapatalk

xRogerxC said:
Google Camera port is your friend when it comes to the Z2 Force. Also, Snapseed is a great editor.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So, I'm reading through this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/z2-force/themes/app-modded-gcam-hdr-t3735494 ; there seems to be no gcam available for Z2, which would be fully functional. Are you saying you solved this issue and have one that works? Perhaps you can post to the thread with your findings if you did?

Selfie quality

You're beautiful and everyone knows it. That's why you take selfies. Rate this thread to express how the front-facing camera of the LG V30 performs. A higher rating indicates that the front camera produces fantastic results consistently.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

The selfie camera is just awful in my experience...

Kdenery said:
The selfie camera is just awful in my experience...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh it's atrocious. I don't know how LG is satisfied with this compared to pretty much any other phone out there.

It is worse than my old moto x pure. Has anyone messed with the settings to make it better?

Fingers crossed for a software update to fix it lol
Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk

I don't think it's software. They're still using a 5mp lens. You know it's bad when an iPhone had a higher mp count than you. Once again LG continues to shoot themselves in the foot.

Yeah, I knew it was 5mp. I didn't understand when this was touted as such a high end camera phone, why they screwed the pooch on the front cam. I don't use it often, so it's not a deal breaker to me, but to sell phones you have to appeal to the masses. Snapchat and instagram are moderately popular I would say lol
Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk

Dammit!! Always one thing to ruin the experience

Lol I'd take a ****ty front cam if it meant I could have root on a carrier device. Alas... Here we are with two blemishes
Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk

Once I got it tweaked and Incorporated some of my favorite workflow, I'm actually pretty happy with the results. First thing I need to mention is I never leave an image as is, every shot can use some massaging. Second, the very first thing I recommend everyone do is set both "skin tone" and lightning to their bottom values. Seems someone decided to rename that atrocious skin smoothing to skin tone. Absolutely misleading. Once you do that and do a little processing, you can get some pretty good results.

Yeah, by all accounts is not a great front camera compared to most phones especially flagships. An $800 flagship device really should be better than this.
But I rarely use the front camera, so not a big deal to me.

It's a major step back from even the G4 and G5. There's really no arguing, it's just a bad camera.

I love this freaking phone!!! This is the only major thing I dislike about this phone. If the front facing camera was about as good as others, then honestly this would be like the perfect phone. It has everything else you could ever want and more.
At least this is mostly seeming to be a software issue from my experience. For example the Galaxy S7 and even then Galaxy S6 both had 5 megapixel front cameras too, but their front facing cameras were still really good! So LG could make this camera a lot better if they focus on it with their software updates.
Does anyone know a good place we can voice our opinion and thoughts to LG on the front facing camera? If we all voice our opinions somewhere LG can see and hear, then they are likely to do something about it soon.

It's gotta be better than the Nexus 6 Im waiting to shelve .....

my came out clean, not the best but its good. as a photographer so far the detail
during daylight the quality is good, evening shots, better use your rear camera lol, but then that paint look appears on both.
thanks
will have a video for it soon to get the best trick for lighting in every situation with the lg v30 youtube under scooby miranda , give me 1 week as ill be doing every test with the camera
instagram is https://www.instagram.com/scoobysnapstories/?hl=en

maxgibson said:
can someone share the photos from front facing camera?
also the question is does it have wide angle feature like v20?
really want to know because I'm think about selling my s8 and trying to understand which one to buy- v30 or note8) selfie camera quality is very important for me
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It does have the wide angle. I haven't noticed any poor quality with it. Like a previous post, I took the skin smoothing and light down right away, because I don't care about those things. Overall though, I'm happy with it. I don't use Snapchat very often though, so I'm not sure how its screenshot of the screen processing interprets it.
---------- Post added at 04:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:14 PM ----------
CHH2 said:
Once I got it tweaked and Incorporated some of my favorite workflow, I'm actually pretty happy with the results. First thing I need to mention is I never leave an image as is, every shot can use some massaging. Second, the very first thing I recommend everyone do is set both "skin tone" and lightning to their bottom values. Seems someone decided to rename that atrocious skin smoothing to skin tone. Absolutely misleading. Once you do that and do a little processing, you can get some pretty good results.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This. It comes with some high skin smoothing out of the box for some reason. Adjusting those makes things look very good.

sashadith said:
can someone share the photo taken from front facing camera?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's two. Both using the front camera and a little processing in Snapseed. Shot with indirect sunlight indoors.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chimphappyhour/23728950428/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chimphappyhour/37322765870/
It's not glamorous. I have no idea what softness people keep complaining about. If you look at those on a desktop and open the larger view, you can see way more detail than I would prefer people seeing most of the time, pores and lines and all. Those who are complaining about softness either haven't reset the weird skin smoothing settings to zero or... I have no idea what else they are expecting. No person I've ever shot a portrait of would ever want that much detail showing on their face.

CHH2 said:
Here's two. Both using the front camera and a little processing in Snapseed. Shot with indirect sunlight indoors.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chimphappyhour/23728950428/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/chimphappyhour/37322765870/
It's not glamorous. I have no idea what softness people keep complaining about. If you look at those on a desktop and open the larger view, you can see way more detail than I would prefer people seeing most of the time, pores and lines and all. Those who are complaining about softness either haven't reset the weird skin smoothing settings to zero or... I have no idea what else they are expecting. No person I've ever shot a portrait of would ever want that much detail showing on their face.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
have you corrected the sharpness and "shadows" parameter in snapseed ?

eldar4uk said:
have you corrected the sharpness and "shadows" parameter in snapseed ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm a photographer, I always apply a tad sharpening to any photo. But you can't sharpen what isn't there. The information has to already exist in the file. I also bump contrast a tad in B&W. Modern sensors come out too flat. The V30, my mirrorless, and my full frame DSLR, they all come out too flat. The dynamic range freaks are making images too boring and useless. Sometimes you just have to let things get clipped.

my V30 is arriving today, but the only thing that deferred me for so long was the horrid front facing camera 5mp vs 8mp or higher of others as well as no stereo front facing speakers.
LG is marketing this phone as a media production and consumption device, but it can't even output stereo audio out of its speakers.

FIRST OnePlus 5T camera review by heise.de

https://m.heise.de/ct/artikel/OnePlus-5T-Keine-Zoom-Kamera-mehr-3887487.html
Heise.de is one very serious german tech site and they say that since other sites already broke the NDA they dont feel obliged to hold information back.
To make it short: camera does not get better, low light performance gets even worse.
Long version: The camera setup (still WITHOUT OIS!) will be 16+20 mp again BUT the 20 mp sensor this time won't work as telephoto lens. Also aperture changes from f/2.6 to also f/1.7 like the 16 mp main snapper. Pixel size of the 20 mp sensor stays at 1.0 um. This sensor will, despite its crazily small pixel size, automatically work as low light shooter when light levels drop below 3.5 lux, making pictures look even worse than with the 16 mp sensor.
The Software does NOT use both sensors to combine the picture information like it is the case for other phones. Thus, picture quality does not seem to improve compared to the OP 5.
My comment: This really doesnt seem to make any sense. Why not put in a sensor with bigger pixels if you want a lowlight specific unit? Why take one with even smaller pixels? Wtf!? Did they have too many of those crappy 20mp sensor left over? Or why not at least use both sensors to combine the two die pics? Or why not just use the fabulous sensor that the s8/pixel2 uses and put an OIS in it? This is so stupid oneplus, i just dont get it..
Furthermore: Usb will again be 2.0.
2015 all over again..
Also, unlike the introductionary text of this forum suggests, battery will be the same as the OP5, 3300 mah. Thus, endurance will be lower compared to the 5.
And the device will also feature face recognition to unlock.
What do you think?

This is kinda disappointing. I was kinda missing my OnePlus 5 going to the pixel 2xl because I really loved the feel and everything on the o5. I was also thinking I should have waited on the 5t and hope they made some small improvements to the camera. This seems like a bit if a downgrade. Battery life will still be really good but slightly worse. I don't see why they couldn't have fitted in a slightly larger battery

Finally get to review it
Finally got my new glasses and can check all of the new great features With these phones. It has been a while since I bought a smart phoneBut the one plus is something that I there are just way too expensive.

I wonder if it possible cross-device ROMs between OnePlus 5 & 5T.

ps000000 said:
I wonder if it possible cross-device ROMs between OnePlus 5 & 5T.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think it will be possible. Since the changes are similar like 3 and 3t. Lets see

yeah, for me the missing ois is a deal breaker. I planned to upgrade from my op3t but now i will keep it. Hopefully they will learn from it and add a camera with ois for the 6

GSMArena have some shots in their hands-on here.
If you zoom in and look at what it's done to the foliage in the first 2 shots you might wish you hadn't. This would be considered poor in a low-light shot, never mind outdoor daylight. I just hope that this is pre-pre-production software that they stupidly gave to a reviewer and not what they are planning on selling.

Maybe anybody has a acutal review of the camera of the Oppo R11s?
It should have the same camera configuration and software "magic".
Results should be an indication for the possible camera performance of the OP5T.
---------- Post added at 05:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:35 PM ----------
Large Hadron said:
GSMArena have some shots in their hands-on here.
If you zoom in and look at what it's done to the foliage in the first 2 shots you might wish you hadn't. This would be considered poor in a low-light shot, never mind outdoor daylight. I just hope that this is pre-pre-production software that they stupidly gave to a reviewer and not what they are planning on selling.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Interesting. GSMarena comments on the lowlight pictures:
"We also went out for some night shots around the usual locations. We won't be passing any verdicts just yet, but the results look promising."

When they said the second camera would have f1.7 aperture (without probably mentioning the pixel size) I thought they would do something special to combine the result of both cameras and create nice pictures. I didn't expect that they only would use one of them....
OnePlus clearly doesn't know much about software photography, but they know a lot about marketing...

Furthermore: Usb will again be 2.0.
2015 all over again..
Seriously brah?

Also, unlike the introductionary text of this forum suggests, battery will be the same as the OP5, 3300 mah. Thus, endurance will be lower compared to the 5.
And the device will also feature face recognition to unlock.
What do you think?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, the screen says 6.0 VS 5.5 But it's taller but thinner side to side. The total screen area should be the same or very close. I doubt enough to affect battery in any significant way. It's also a newer panel, so possibly more efficient than the old 5.5 which was a carryover from the previous OP.

The screen is not narrower but a lot longer so the real estate is quite bigger.
Its 136x68mm vs 122x68mm.

A few sites have mentioned the camera is a bit lackluster, but until we can get a good comparison between the 5 and 5T I'm not sure how to take these comments.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

Camera will be more powerfull if you install Google camera.

Martin.077 said:
Camera will be more powerfull if you install Google camera.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i feel so too, on the op5 the difference is huge in low light conditions with the hdr+

Unfortunately there isnt a port that works properly. Either no touch to focus or other drawbacks

Lasersdude said:
Unfortunately there isnt a port that works properly. Either no touch to focus or other drawbacks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And the microdots. It was too much of a hack for something I need to be reliable at least IMO.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A5000 using Tapatalk

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ding-combination-of-specs-design-and-price/2/
https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5t-review-1687p8.php
mario toys on arstech and low light comparison on gsm
5t looks better than 5 there

FridrufHau said:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/201...ding-combination-of-specs-design-and-price/2/
https://m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_5t-review-1687p8.php
mario toys on arstech and low light comparison on gsm
5t looks better than 5 there
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is still producing oil paintings in daylight though.
Mind boggling that this is still not fixed! The sensor is capable to produce better photos but the processing...
https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/op5T-2.jpg
This issue is soo old by now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn9Lj6F6EM
Someone needs to tell OnePlus that a little noise doesn't hurt as long as the photos come out sharp!

AcmE85 said:
This issue is soo old by now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbn9Lj6F6EM
Someone needs to tell OnePlus that a little noise doesn't hurt as long as the photos come out sharp!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok so moving is never sharp, although with other camera apps?