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The Tweak Thread (Advanced Eris Stuff) minor update 10/30/10

Hey all i created this thread for ADVANCED users (and some newbies lol) so that i can better help users tweak and improve performance on their eris. My inbox was getting crazy so i thought this would be better i will still take pm questions but it would be better if we can all learn here. This isn't really a place to report bugs as it would be better to contact your respective developer or post in that developers thread. I will try my very best to get the best performance out of your eris and hopefully we will have some fun along the way. So hopefully this can help take some of the load off of the developers threads and reduce noob-age.
I ONLY ASK THAT IF USERS WANT TO TWEAK I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU EITHER..........
1) PURCHASE ROOT EXPLORER FROM THE MARKET OR THE FREE ESTRONGS FILE EXPLORER APP FROM THE MARKET WHICH ALSO ALLOWS ROOT ACCESS AS WELL.... BUT I THINK ROOT EXPLORER IS BETTER IMHO.
2) HAVE ADB SET UP FOR YOURSELVES AT HOME OR KNOWLEDGEABLE OF ADB. I WILL NOT HELP YOU SET UP ADB OR THE SDK
ALSO I RECOMEND PURCHING THE FULL VERSION OF TITANIUM BACKUP AS IT IS AN INVALUABLE TOOL FOR ROOTED USERS AND MAKES BACKING UP AND TWEAKING MUCH EASIER FOR NEWBIES PLUS IT HAS SOME REALLY AWSOME FEATURES
so hopefully this will give us fun things to do in between releases from our devs. And always remember to donate to these awesome awesome eris devs for their hard work and commitment to us.
i want to keep an open discussion thread, nothing is off the table.
kernels
kitchens
cooking
roms
tweaks
hacks
apps
fixes
workarounds
you name it lets talk
lets figure it out together while learning along the way
Things are always changing so if you see any errors or things that need to be updated please let me know and i will be more than happy to get the correct information posted.

Moving apks and deleting dulicates...make your system efficient
YOU need either rootexplorer OR be ADB inclined to do the following....
i was thinking while doing some root exploring of ways to make this rom more solid and here are a few tips i thought everyone could use.
IF YOU DONT HAVE DUPLICATES DONT KILL YOURSELF SEARCHING JUST CONSIDER YOURSELF LUCKY. AND YOU DONT NEED THIS POST
FIRST
when i flash a Rom i always do my set up. here is an overview of what i do when i flash........
-i flash the Rom
-then i login to google as normal so i can receive Titanium Backup (TB) and Root Explorer (RE) from the market updates
if someone could be kind enough to give us a sample command to use terminal to install apps from the sd would be a great shortcut for us
-move those two apps from data/app to system/app
-then i do a full wipe (huh a full wipe you say....system files are never wiped....they can only be flashed over, so TB and RE will still be there)
-clean nand (so if you get crazy and screw up you can easily start over)
-Rom surgery
-Restore
-login to google last and sync
-batt tweaks and extras
this process IMHO makes your rom way more efficient than flashing, login and syncing.
OK
first thing i do when i flash a rom is to remove junk
i navigate with either explorer to system/app folder
then i remove all the useless apps i dont use, need or want
AND/OR remove the "ONE USE" apps (like setupwizard.apk only need it once or none at all if your a pro )
this reduces the ROMs footprint making it smaller
the smaller the Rom the better the faster
here are some things i like to rip out of system/app folder....
ADWLauncher.apk (make sure you have another launcher first i use lanucher pro)
Mail.apk (i use gmail)
Twitter.apk (i currently dont tweet)
ProTips.apk
HtcCalibrate.apk (after i calibrate of course)
Launcher2.apk(why have a bunch of other launchers you dont use hogging memory get rid of them)
MagicSmokeWallpapers.apk (this dont work for me but other do)
Carhomegoogle.apk ONLY
etc. there are others you can remove as well depending on you
and we will experiment to find more......
NEXT
i like to move IMPORTANT apks or apps from the data/app folder to the system/app folder epically if your Rom dev has not updated the gapps lately or you cant get access to the latest gapps.zip.
if you do not then you will end up with a lot of duplicate apps installed in your system when ever you receive a gapps update and that wastes memory and will cause memory issues in the future and it screws with autokiller
i like to move my favorite launcher (launcher pro paid) to the same place where launchers go, in the system/app folder (why have your launcher where regular apps go and get killed by autokiller) i think this is better for the system and doesn't hog your app data space plus it adds stability to your launcher.
here are some things i like to move into system/app.....
i like move into system/app are
launchers (stabilze launcher)
keyboards (should speed up keyboard strokes)
root tools and IMPORTANT apps (R.E. T.B.)
security apps (never deleted or wiped in case of theft, hoping thief is not nerdy)
any of the latest gapps update
and some others
this way if any issue occurs wipe and restore is easy as pie
IMPORTANT: APPS IN THE SYSTEM FOLDERS DO NOT GET WIPED OR DELETED DURING A FACTORY DATA WIPE OR DALVIK WIPE.....THEY CAN ONLY BE FLASHED OVER BY A ROM(OVERWRITTEN)
APPS IN THE DATA FOLDERS WILL GET DELETED DURING A FACTORY WIPE......BUT NOT DALVIK
i know we are ALL have at least one pair of identical (double apks in the system)
-but the identical apks have different names
-on is in data/app the other is in system/app
if you have updated ANY google app then chances are that you may have some double apps on your system wasting. when we update these google apks 'think' the rom comes with the apk already and is stored in the protected system/app folder WHILE the actual update is stored in the data/app folder (or where regular apps go) under a different name
EXAMPLE
google maps
-MAPS.apk ........is stored system/app
-com.google.android.app.map-1.apk........is stored in the data/app (this is the latest update of google maps and should replace the older MAPS.apk in system/app)
-these are the SAME APKs
hmmm so think gmaps is 5-6 megs in size and you have 2 of them so thats like 10-12 megs in your system, get rid of the old one.
there are two thing you can do here with two different benefits
-you can either remove the copy from either the data OR system folders depending on what you prefer.
if you remove the old app from system/app that means easier updates with now file moving BUT less app storage
OR move from data/app to system/app which means less FCs, more other app memory, and dealing with future updates and moving each app.
i like to move the new apks to the system/app where they belong
unstable Launcher PRO
my launcher was very unstable for a while wasn't a big deal for me
soo i decided to move my launcher to the system/app folder like all the other launchers....
I think the instability of that launcher was because of AUTOKILLER thinking this is just a regular app in data/app which it was at the moment. i may be wrong but autokiller doesnt kill system apps. so i move my launcher there and guess what now my launcher is much better and faster and stable beacuse you now have lots more memory.
SPEED TIP: in spare parts speed up your transition and animation windows to FAST
MOVING APPS ADVANCED SHORTCUT
i finally figure out a great short cut for moving apps
-first rename and put your favorite file manager (ROOT EXPLO) onto the sd.
to be even faster rename and put your launcher and TB on there too.
-after flashing a rom bypass the setup (touch the android screen) to home screen.
-open terminal
-type
SU
cd sdcard
busybox install yourapp.apk /data/app
-now you have the file explorer ready to go
instead of trying to restore wipe restore.
and hopefully you know what to do next.
so to summarize...
-get rid of junk you dont use and free up that memory
-move apps to the proper locations in system/app AND/OR data/app
-make sure you dont have multiple google apps using different names
"MAPS.apk" and "com.google.android.app.map-1.apk" IS THE SAME APP IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS. remove the old and put the new in system/app
make sure your main launcher is in system app so it doesn't keep getting killed by auto killer settings and reloading
Replace THESE apps = with THESE apps
system/app = data/app
Gmail.apk = com.google.android.apps.gm-1.apk
ChrometoPhone.apk = com.google.android.apps.chrometophone-1.apk
Maps.apk = com.google.android.apps.maps-1.apk
CarHomeGoogle.apk = com.google.android.carhome-1.apk
GoogleSearch.apk = com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox-1.apk
Googles.apk = com.google.android.appsunveil-1.apk
SuperUser.apk = com.noshufou.android.su-1.apk
AutoKiller = com.rs.autokiller-2.apk
TitaniumBackup = com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup-2.apk
Twittter = (forget)
Voice= com.google.android.apps.gv-1.apk i think
YouTube=
delete OLD in system/app = move NEW from data/app to system/app
YES i did all those with success more memory and speed and a massive increase in overall Rom stability
there may be more
BUT ALL THESE HAVE DUPLICATE APPS USING DIFFERENT NAMES stored in data/app and/or system/app WHEN the latest update should be system/app IMHO to prevent AUTOKILLER from always killing i believe autokiller will try to kill data apps first before system apps.
i still have my auto killer set at optimum and things work even better now
and i gained 25mb of system memory no more Force closes

Batt tweak custom set up process (a 1-2 day process to complete)
How to increase battery life
first off battery life depends on many factors.....
where you live, work, and the daily place you travel to.
im one of the lucky ones who has a cell tower down the street from me here in S. FL.
WARNING: IF you multitask alllllll day on your phone then this is not for you.This is more beneficial when your phone is at rest or in an idle state or screen off state.
Others may not be so lucky and may live in a bad signal area....which causes your phone to constantly search and listen for signals.
Also battery life could depend on the widgets you use or apps that you have active.
Example: Beautiful Widgets beautiful home is a constantly running app that also
-on occasion activates the GPS to acquire location
-on occasion downloads update weather data
Example: Facebook Widget
-by default update statuses every 15 minutes, so every 15 minutes its downloading data
so i usually adjust these settings to my personal liking
Now for the battery calibration process and how it works
Decad3nce port of Colins_ph batt tweak allows us to use some setcpu profiles without setcpu.
Setcpu and its widgets were resource monsters crippling our system and drain battery life as well. kiss setcpu goodbye we wont be needing it anymore.
the batt tweak calibration process takes some patience as the entire process could take 1-3 days to complete depending. Also i highly recommend using the latest CFS kernel by Conap as it provides extra battery savings
we will be running colins batt tweak during the calibration process so that both calibrate together, which makes a lot of sense as opposed to doning them separately.
here is the process and DS's custom settings for batt tweak 1 (the first release)
please remember to prepare yourself not to interrupt the process. the draining process may die while you are at work or during an emergency. so be prepared to have little use of your phone.
-flash latest CFS kernel found here
-flash batt tweak attached at the bottom of this post until its updated and fixed....more info in thread here
-turn off phone and let charge for a few hours or more to ensure that it is full
-when ready boot into recovery mode and wipe the batt stats and power off
-unplug phone and power on (charging cable not needed) you may experience weird battery levels or fast draining (this is normal)
-immediately open TERMINAL and activate colins_ batt tweak
with command batt-cfg and go to option 3 and input these settings........
I think this works much better
this schedueler keeps the cpu much lower
here if anyone want to try it out
underclock
ondemand
anticipatory
19200
710400
19200
710400
19200
710400 (ONLY IF YOU KNOW YOU CAN 768000)
90
15
15
15
- close terminal and operate phone normally if you want...i highly suggest leaving it alone as much as possible until it drains completely dead.
-use a cpu monitoring app just to make sure the cpu is idle i have seen mine dip down 80mhz if not then you need to kill active open apps
-let phone naturally drain completely until its dead (could take a full day or two mine was 48hrs with some usage)
-when dead make sure by pressing power rapidly a few times
-while off let phone recharge for as long as possible maybe four hours or more the mor the better
-when ready unplug phone and turn on
-when powered on reactivate batt tweak using terminal batt-cfg, then option 9 to save and your done (once setup all you need is option 9 to save and reactivate)
-wtf DS my phone is on but reads less than 100% battery. this is normal replug while on and let charge to full
- when full the process is now complete and you can use phone as normal
REMEMBER THAT SOME ROMS DO NOT ACTIVATE THE TWEAK AND YOU WILL NEED TO DO SO UNTIL YOUR DEV AS ADD THE SCRIPT TO ACTIVATE ON A REBOOT. SO UNTIL THEN OPTION 9 IN BATT TWEAK WILL DO THIS
use an app like system panel or seepu to look at cpu speeds make sure the cpu isnt running at 100%.
try to close apps if you see this but a reboot usually fixes this.
these settings allow for the cpu to use lower clock speeds when idle. much lower than the stock 245000 settings yes were going to the minimum 19200 with little to no side effects or slow downs, but the benefits are more when in a idle state. But it WILL drain at about same rate when your using it heavily.
make sure the tweak is running by either opening terminal and enter pidof batt.sh you should see the processing id number if its running.
OR for a full read out of stats do batt-diag
and observe the time in state read out at the bottom. if you see values next to the 19200 clock speeds........SUCCESS!
PS if you screen on time is 3 hours and your phone is dead, DONT BLAME THE BATT TWEAK....BLAME YOURSELF !
ENJOY

alright now lets get some real stuff in here....lol

jdog94 said:
alright now lets get some real stuff in here....lol
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just trying to a make a nice neat place to put all my post on past tweaks for users and to do some advanced stuff in the future stay tuned

DS36 said:
just trying to a make a nice neat place to put all my post on past tweaks for users and to do some advanced stuff in the future stay tuned
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good, i need this!

Great idea"!"!!

HAI! Hau do i route mai fone? I wantz haxorz warez an wireles heatherin fo free intanetz!
So seriously, is this a fan-club for DS? I'm totally in if it is.

sticktodrum said:
HAI! Hau do i route mai fone? I wantz haxorz warez an wireles heatherin fo free intanetz!
So seriously, is this a fan-club for DS? I'm totally in if it is.
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LMAO can you please please be my threads personal comedian

Keep this thread development related or Ill move it to General, Is this a support thread or something? Something about tweaks?

Its all about me

Captainkrtek said:
Keep this thread development related or Ill move it to General, Is this a support thread or something? Something about tweaks?
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this is a thread to help old and new users tweak and mod their phones and other advanced stuff
trying to put all the knowledgeable stuff in to one easy thread and it will be dev related
im just started this thread im not done i have lots to do here
my in box is getting a little crazy
this should benefit all and provides basic dev techniques and instruction
this is the beginning stages
plus should reduce the number of faqs for everyone
less fights
less arguments
and less captainrtek (but thats not a bad thing)

DS36 said:
this is a thread to help old and new users tweak and mod their phones and other advanced stuff
trying to put all the knowledgeable stuff in to one easy thread and it will be dev related
im just started this thread im not done i have lots to do here
my in box is getting a little crazy
this should benefit all and provides basic dev techniques and instruction
this is the beginning stages
plus should reduce the number of faqs for everyone
less fights
less arguments
and less captainrtek (but thats not a bad thing)
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Haha gotcha, and thanks

Thanks in advance, DS.

roirraW "edor" ehT said:
Thanks in advance, DS.
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Looking forward to working together with everyone learning along the way.
Will be post new batt tweak setting in the morn keep an eye out
Do not up date to the latest version of batt tweak it doesn't work.
Sent from my FroyoEris using XDA App

Brilliant.

sticktodrum said:
HAI! Hau do i route mai fone? I wantz haxorz warez an wireles heatherin fo free intanetz!
So seriously, is this a fan-club for DS? I'm totally in if it is.
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Lol I haz cheez burger
Sent from my FroyoEris using XDA App

rick311 said:
good, i need this!
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hey man are you ready
im going to post in the third POST what i have written down so far
but its NOT complete yet....so take a gander

DS36 said:
hey man are you ready
im going to post in the third POST what i have written down so far
but its NOT complete yet....so take a gander
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ok, i did all the setting tweaks that you recommend. do i have to input them every time i reboot? i dont see a setting that restores my previous settings.

Hey DS,
Great idea to help newbs like me! So after reading your first two posts I looked where my apps are, and every one of them seems to be in system/app... I checked in data/ and can't see anything in there (unless it's sdcard/data, in which case I have folders for Beautiful Widgets and Titanium). I'm using the EStrongs FE, although I don't think that would make a difference. Also, couldn't find any of the duplicate apps you were talking about either (I only have com.google.android.apps.maps.apk, for example). I'm on xtrROM 4.6 and used Titanium Backup to restore my apps.

[Q] root questions...

Hi All,
Enjoying my MT4g on Tmobile. I am interested in rooting my phone and getting the CM7 (Gingerbread) on my phone.
Before I jump into the guides, I wanted to know that is there a way to get back to stock TMO (that came with the phone) just in case I dont like CM7.
Secondly, is everything working on CM7 builds? Are there still any parts of the OS that do not work (wifi, camera etc).
Thanks and would appreciate any guidance on the above 2 questions.
Thanks!

Step 1: Do some reading, both of the RC1 thread and the Nightlies thread, and the CM7 FAQ. There are people who are having problems, there are people for whom things are perfect, and there are people for whom things are usable.
Step 2: Be sure to use the CORRECT version of ClockworkMod Recovery. With the exception of the specially-created 3.0.0.6 version that supports both Froyo and Gingerbread filesystems, you MUST use 2.x for Froyo based ROMs, and 3.x for Gingerbread based ROMs. This includes backup/restore as well as flashing.

ravneetg said:
Hi All,
Enjoying my MT4g on Tmobile. I am interested in rooting my phone and getting the CM7 (Gingerbread) on my phone.
Before I jump into the guides, I wanted to know that is there a way to get back to stock TMO (that came with the phone) just in case I dont like CM7.
Secondly, is everything working on CM7 builds? Are there still any parts of the OS that do not work (wifi, camera etc).
Thanks and would appreciate any guidance on the above 2 questions.
Thanks!
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I would suggest watching a video tutorial a few times if you have never rooted a phone before. If you are comfortable installing an OS on a computer then you probably won't have any trouble rooting.
You can always go back to stock if you like. Make sure you follow all the steps for the root procedure. I'm pretty sure grankin posted up the unroot procedure with the root procedure. One of the steps is saving a backup of your original phone settings. Keep that in a safe place.
I'm pretty sure CM7 isn't stable yet, but most everything works for that ROM. Wifi Calling and almost everything else. As always read the updates to see what the developer has fixed (or is working on) If you don't like a ROM you can always find another. That's pretty much the beauty of the whole thing.
Hope this helps

Thanks guys. I will go ahead and refresh myself with all the guides and tutorials in here...Last time I was doing this was 5-6 years ago with the HTC MDA Win Phones
Thanks!

Seems like we're in a similar boat with root....
This site rules. I learn so much here and yet there's a ton of info so just to be clear....
I have a myTouch 4G. Is it worth rooting JUST to remove some of the stock apps (Amazon MP3, etc.)? Is there any benefit to be gained from doing that if I have no other reason that I want to root right now?
Thanks in advance.

allyn274 said:
This site rules. I learn so much here and yet there's a ton of info so just to be clear....
I have a myTouch 4G. Is it worth rooting JUST to remove some of the stock apps (Amazon MP3, etc.)? Is there any benefit to be gained from doing that if I have no other reason that I want to root right now?
Thanks in advance.
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up to you.
personally i will never use a "stock/unrooted" android.

neidlinger said:
up to you.
personally i will never use a "stock/unrooted" android.
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Okay. I understand. But I'm still pretty new at this and so far all I want to do is remove the "bloatware." Does it make a noticeable difference in the way the phone runs if I go through rooting to do that?
Thanks!

allyn274 said:
Okay. I understand. But I'm still pretty new at this and so far all I want to do is remove the "bloatware." Does it make a noticeable difference in the way the phone runs if I go through rooting to do that?
Thanks!
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Just rooting the phone will offer no performance changes. The only thing Rooting does is give you [the user] Super User access.
With that you can do massive performance upgrade with s=off. but nothing Rooting Only will do.

neidlinger said:
Just rooting the phone will offer no performance changes. The only thing Rooting does is give you [the user] Super User access.
With that you can do massive performance upgrade with s=off. but nothing Rooting Only will do.
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So are you saying there's something more than rooting that I need to do in order to have the ability to delete the preloaded programs that I don't use?
Thanks!

allyn274 said:
So are you saying there's something more than rooting that I need to do in order to have the ability to delete the preloaded programs that I don't use?
Thanks!
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I haven't rooted my MT4G yet, but I had a rooted and modded MT3G for a long time. I would read A LOT through the guides and threads involving rooting your device, because it seems like you don't know too much about it. But in short - rooting alone does nothing but give you super user access to the phone, which in non-nerd talk means you can control things about the phone that you couldn't do before rooting. If you then want to remove bloatware (as well as do anything else like flashing roms etc), it will require further steps. Again, READ READ READ (and WATCH WATCH WATCH videos).

sunsean said:
I haven't rooted my MT4G yet, but I had a rooted and modded MT3G for a long time. I would read A LOT through the guides and threads involving rooting your device, because it seems like you don't know too much about it. But in short - rooting alone does nothing but give you super user access to the phone, which in non-nerd talk means you can control things about the phone that you couldn't do before rooting. If you then want to remove bloatware (as well as do anything else like flashing roms etc), it will require further steps. Again, READ READ READ (and WATCH WATCH WATCH videos).
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I totally understand there is more required than just the rooting. And I really really appreciate your post. I guess what I'm trying to figure out is just if there is a benefit to removing bloatware? Maybe it's not really a "to root or not to root" question so much as a "will removing bloatware improve my phone at all" question? If there's a better place to ask, please point me in the right direction?
Thanks again for all the help.

There is no performance benefit to removing bloatware if the application is not used. It just consumes space on the internal SD device.
Rooting and then disabling those apps merely ensures they won't be run.
HTC Glacier CM7 #2

jggimi said:
There is no performance benefit to removing bloatware if the application is not used. It just consumes space on the internal SD device.
Rooting and then disabling those apps merely ensures they won't be run.
HTC Glacier CM7 #2
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Thank you! I really appreciate it. I think that's the answer I was looking for.

allyn274 said:
So are you saying there's something more than rooting that I need to do in order to have the ability to delete the preloaded programs that I don't use?
Thanks!
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Titanium backup is a paid app that can remove apps after root (Monopoly, Asphalt 5, etc) Most ROM's you install after root have these apps removed.
Also it's pretty nice to underclock the phone to give you some great battery life. Really nice to set a profile when the screen is off that it slows the clock speed.
I like the videos here
I don't think he uses the new gfree method of rooting though in his video...
grankin posted a video with the root procedure on his post I'd look there.

2Noob4U said:
Titanium backup is a paid app that can remove apps after root (Monopoly, Asphalt 5, etc) Most ROM's you install after root have these apps removed.
Also it's pretty nice to underclock the phone to give you some great battery life. Really nice to set a profile when the screen is off that it slows the clock speed.
I like the videos here
I don't think he uses the new gfree method of rooting though in his video...
grankin posted a video with the root procedure on his post I'd look there.
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This is extremely helpful. I have lots and lots of research and learning ahead of me, but this at least gets me in the right direction. There's a lot to sort through.
Just one thing: @2Noob4U - what is the "gfree method of rooting"? I thought you could achieve root with VISIONary?
You rock. Thanks again.

TB does not remove system applications. It "Freezes" them. This marks them disabled in the Android package manager so they cannot be executed, and wont' be seen by the launcher / app drawer.
I mentioned disabling bloatware earlier in this thread. You can use TB to "Freeze" and "Thaw", or you can use the "pm disable" or "pm enable" commands from a terminal emulator.
Disabling a system application is significantly easier than removing it. Plus, removing it may break a dependent application. Yeah, removing Monopoly and Stock won't break anything, but you may decide some tool in the app drawer is unused -- but it is actually used by another app unbeknownst to you. Disabling is safer. Removing requires mounting /system in read/write mode, which is cumbersome to do manually with a mount command, but can be done from adb or Root Explorer.
TB's Freeze/Thaw is available in its Pro version.

jggimi said:
TB does not remove system applications. It "Freezes" them. This marks them disabled in the Android package manager so they cannot be executed, and wont' be seen by the launcher / app drawer.
I mentioned disabling bloatware earlier in this thread. You can use TB to "Freeze" and "Thaw", or you can use the "pm disable" or "pm enable" commands from a terminal emulator.
Disabling a system application is significantly easier than removing it. Plus, removing it may break a dependent application. Yeah, removing Monopoly and Stock won't break anything, but you may decide some tool in the app drawer is unused -- but it is actually used by another app unbeknownst to you. Disabling is safer. Removing requires mounting /system in read/write mode, which is cumbersome to do manually with a mount command, but can be done from adb or Root Explorer.
TB's Freeze/Thaw is available in its Pro version.
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I read back through the thread and I'm not 100% sure I found the reference to bloatware, but this is incredibly helpful.
To make sure I'm understanding correctly, I could:
- Root my phone using VISIONary
- Get TB Pro
- Freeze (or Thaw to reverse) any unwanted apps
Would this improve performance/storage in any way or simply remove those unwanted apps from the drawer?
thanks again - as always.

allyn274 said:
I read back through the thread and I'm not 100% sure I found the reference to bloatware, but this is incredibly helpful.
To make sure I'm understanding correctly, I could:
- Root my phone using VISIONary
- Get TB Pro
- Freeze (or Thaw to reverse) any unwanted apps
Would this improve performance/storage in any way or simply remove those unwanted apps from the drawer?
thanks again - as always.
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Removing or disabling will offer little performance upgrade. Androids work much like a computer does. Just because the Application is setting on the phone doesn't mean that it is using any resources other than memory. The only thing you will gain by removing or disabling those application is the memory that they are using.

neidlinger said:
Removing or disabling will offer little performance upgrade. Androids work much like a computer does. Just because the Application is setting on the phone doesn't mean that it is using any resources other than memory. The only thing you will gain by removing or disabling those application is the memory that they are using.
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2 things:
1 - do I have the steps correct?
and
2 - if I gain that memory, is it usable by other apps I would install?
Thank you!

allyn274 said:
2 things:
1 - do I have the steps correct?
and
2 - if I gain that memory, is it usable by other apps I would install?
Thank you!
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1- yes
Download and install VISIONary.apk
Temp Root with VISIONary
Download Ti/Backup
Freeze or delete any unwanted application
and yes other applications will be able to use that space. IF you delete them. If you freeze the no. They are still in the memory the CPU will just not pick them up.

[Q] step by step instructions to delete All unnecessary files from rooted play

OK so my built in memory is always too loo and I'm really getting sick of it. could someone please tell me, with step by step instructions, which files I can remove from my play without crashing the phone. I know that's asking slot but it would greatly appreciate it. thanks in advance.

step 0, open the "safe list" thread at the top of this forum
step 1, download Titanium Backup
step 2, within the app, tap on which App you want to delete
step 3, tap on delete app
step 4, what model phone are you asking about?
step 5, personally I want to know if I can delete QC SEMC Service and preinstalledservice 1.0 on my phone
So far I've deleted
Anonymous Usage Stats
Backup Assistant
CrashMonitor 1.0
Digital clock 1.0
Gmail 2.3.2
MobileCare 6.1.0
My Verizon Mobile
News & Weather
OfficeSuite
StreetView
Skype by Verizon
Talk
Visual VM
VZ Navigator
I've also gone through and deleted, then downloaded from the Market so I can move them to my SD card, with a few Apps.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1046699

I'm using an xperia play

jdz7t8 said:
I'm using an xperia play
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Indeed, but is it an R800i? a? x?
I believe they all have different bloatware preloaded.

jdz7t8 said:
OK so my built in memory is always too loo and I'm really getting sick of it. could someone please tell me, with step by step instructions, which files I can remove from my play without crashing the phone. I know that's asking slot but it would greatly appreciate it. thanks in advance.
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This isnt windows, having more free ram WILL NOT increase performance

oh wow I have no clue, I have the xperia play from Rogers in Canada

I think your wrong on that one. if what your saying was so why would people recommend you use advanced task killer when your phone slows down, or why would they recommend that you restart?

jdz7t8 said:
I think your wrong on that one. if what your saying was so why would people recommend you use advanced task killer when your phone slows down, or why would they recommend that you restart?
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Infact it's the oposite, people say you should use task killers as it interfears with androids native memory management, Android is a linux based os and thus "pools" memory, so although the memory may appear to be used, infact it's not, it is pooled waiting to be used by the os, this gives much quicker random access.
http://lifehacker.com/5650894/andro...ed-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
"In Android, processes and Applications are two different things. An app can stay "running" in the background without any processes eating up your phone's resources. Android keeps the app in its memory so it launches more quickly and returns to its prior state. When your phone runs out of memory, Android will automatically start killing tasks on its own, starting with ones that you haven't used in awhile.
The problem is that Android uses RAM differently than, say, Windows. On Android, having your RAM nearly full is a good thing. It means that when you relaunch an app you've previously opened, the app launches quickly and returns to its previous state. So while Android actually uses RAM efficiently, most users see that their RAM is full and assume that's what's slowing down their phone. In reality, your CPU—which is only used by apps that are actually active—is almost always the bottleneck."

really, thanks for letting me know. but I do notice when I use advanced task killer games run smoother, though I find five minutes after I closed an app it automaticaly reopens.

there a lot more things showing up in titanium backup, anymore suggestions? Rogers xperia play Canada. my phone is starting up alot faster.

when I try to uninstall certain things it just hangs and says uninstalling but it never finishes. this happened with gmail and liveware manager.

jdz7t8 said:
really, thanks for letting me know. but I do notice when I use advanced task killer games run smoother, though I find five minutes after I closed an app it automaticaly reopens.
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No trouble just know that android has a memory threshold, it will let processes run until it reaches that threshold, then it will start killing background processes, you can remove/stop all the processes you want, but another app will just take over as the os wont stop it, the only way in reality to have more free ram is have no apps anyway you should search for an application called "mini free manager" this lets you edit the values of the native memory manager, you can set it to be more agressive, android will allow less background processes to run and thus free up more ram

I was bored so i went and found it for you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630262
give it a try before you gut your phone trust me

are you sure it's mini free manager and not mini task manager, cause I can't find mini free manager anywhere.

how do you use task killer? like, to set it up? I heard it can put your phone into an automatic restart loop if you don't know what your doing.

U can go into ur text messaging settings and lower the amount of text messages thats phone keeps in thread to like 50 or less. That help me before I rooted to free up memory and stop phone from locking up
Sent from my Rooted SexPlay R800x using XDA App

jdz7t8 said:
when I try to uninstall certain things it just hangs and says uninstalling but it never finishes. this happened with gmail and liveware manager.
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Enable usb debugging under applications development settings before starting titanium backup app - this definitely solves hanging when freezing apps so suspect same for uninstalling

Problem
guys i have been deleting things as suggested here but now i notice when i slide out the gamepad the "moregames" option is no longer there, it only shows games currently installed on my phone. What have I done? How do I get it back?

Oh man, I thought it was because i never had the paid version, so i bought it -.-

Now that I have root, what should I do?

I followed all the instructions and installed CWM recovery, and then installed su and now I have root. It was pretty easy. There is some loss of quality of the camera but I can live with it for now.
What are the suggested modifications now? The main thing I would like to do is purge all the stupid spyware / adware apps on this. What is recommended?
I am hoping there will soon be a CM install for this so I can truly get rid of all the Sony junkware.

Not sure but can you keep us posted on your battery life after installing a custom rom, curious to know if the stock rom has some special battery efficiencies.
Sent from my D5803

Toughdroid said:
I followed all the instructions and installed CWM recovery, and then installed su and now I have root. It was pretty easy. There is some loss of quality of the camera but I can live with it for now.
What are the suggested modifications now? The main thing I would like to do is purge all the stupid spyware / adware apps on this. What is recommended?
I am hoping there will soon be a CM install for this so I can truly get rid of all the Sony junkware.
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I'll tell you what I did:
uninstall all sony bloatware, expecially that antivirus app...
install xposed framework
install titanium backup
Now I'm just waiting for CM or whatever rom

Do you have a list of package names I should nuke? I can't quite match up all the package names with the evilware.
I'm looking at the crazy permissions some of these apps have. Weather Widget can read my call log! wtf!
Thanks

Well, you sure don't want to take a bunch of low-light pictures....

Xposed Modules

There should be am exposed module who can do this for you, it should be called set permissions or something like that... I personally deleted everything from Sony, I use 3rd party apps for weather, calendar and so on... But this is personal taste I just prefer to use the phone for its hardware, not for the Sony brand

Install gesture control and permanently disable the nav bar. That's what I would do gestures are the best way to control a touch device IMHO.

Install Greenify to enhance your battery life. Install Adaway to get rid of ads system wide. Use Tasker to automatically enable/disable pattern unlock based on your location (ie home or not) and also automate the phone putting itself in flight mode when you charge at night.

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Toughdroid said:
I followed all the instructions and installed CWM recovery, and then installed su and now I have root. It was pretty easy. There is some loss of quality of the camera but I can live with it for now.
What are the suggested modifications now? The main thing I would like to do is purge all the stupid spyware / adware apps on this. What is recommended?
I am hoping there will soon be a CM install for this so I can truly get rid of all the Sony junkware.
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I can't wait to install Xposed framework. I can't live without "vibrate on answer", long press tile to go to setting, camera shutter mute, Wanam's Youtube ad-remover, and most importantly GEM Xperia module to hide unwanted apps. Some root apps like Titanium backup, Samba droid, SSH droid, Greenify etc. Fingers crossed for a root exploit.

If you do not really know what to do with root, then I'd really question whether damaging your device is worth it.
This phone is super powerful and the "bloatware" doesn't affect performance - certainly from my user perspective. Just use apex or nova and hide the apps you don't want to see.
TBH, as much as I love tinkering around with my phones, the need for root (as opposed to it being nice to have it) is diminishing as android develops.

Will root for titanium but not much. sony has the battery management that can compare with greenify.

machatta said:
If you do not really know what to do with root, then I'd really question whether damaging your device is worth it.
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I'm hoping to use CM as soon as its available.
machatta said:
This phone is super powerful and the "bloatware" doesn't affect performance - certainly from my user perspective. Just use apex or nova and hide the apps you don't want to see.
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The bloatware is also spyware, and that I do not like.
machatta said:
TBH, as much as I love tinkering around with my phones, the need for root (as opposed to it being nice to have it) is diminishing as android develops.
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My big thing is I want all the spyware to be gone, and I basically do not trust any carrier / manufacturer builds.
Btw the camera is very good, even post-rooting. And battery life is really amazing. I ordered the magnetic charger, and I can probably wait to charge my phone until the new charger arrives. It seems like this phone could go for several days pretty easily. I'm impressed.

Script for Removing Bloatware?

Hey Guys,
I remember in some of my old phones there used to be scripts the community had made to clear some bloatware.
Is there anything like this on the Note 3 Lolipop? I am quite ok to stick with the stock ROM so something like that would be nice if there is anything like that.

Yes, it needs a brain and some of your time. And an application to remove it (such as Titanium Backup).

Honestly, if there was some sort of user friendly interface leaving the choice of debloating to the user, i'd go for it, but so far, every script out there has removed stuff i didnt want to be removed to begin with, and any argument saying i can install it after is as useless as the bloatware itself .
I have made it a habit to manually delete the Folders (or files) of apps i find useless in /system/app and /system/priv-app/, but i have seen people going further with removing modules and drivers, something i have no whatsoever knowledge about.
Having the options to choose what to remove during the debloat would make it a must-do procedure, scripts are not really well understood by the normal user who even roots. A Aroma package through a custom recovery would be way more logical, i think.

Someguyfromhell said:
Yes, it needs a brain and some of your time. And an application to remove it (such as Titanium Backup).
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Yes I know about Titanium and I do use it, the reason I asked is to see if someone has made something such as with an AROMA installer that has already done the hard work on finding what is safe to remove and what not.
I don't think there was any need to get rude or offensive, you can just say No.

Not much point removing the bloat when the partition is still going to be 5 or 6GB depending on variant, you wont be saving any space

Debloating has nothing to do with making space (primarily), as i said, some people debloat to the point of system services. The logic is having less bloat running in memory rather than using space.
I dont get 48 hours battery without debloating, so i definitely remove something that drains "a bit" of battery.

I'm looking for these kind of script also. But you may use SD Maid PRO to remove those you know such knox crap, samsung crap and google's crap.

Look if you want to make a pointless bloat removal root the phone and use titanium.

Removing bloatware from your phone can cause more damage than good, safest is to freeze them.
Trust me, I learned the hard way.

Yup. Use for freezing apps titanium backup