E: False alarm. ATT doesn't understand the difference between SIM and bootloader....
Finally. Some of you may have read through some posts or threads by me. The latest update by LG for this phone really irked me yesterday. The update installed without me choosing to, and now includes a persistent notification that can only be dismissed by having mobile data on. I had both ATT and LG on chat for almost two hours this morning trying to get some answers. So.
Without further ado, there is a way to unlock our bootloaders. I'm kind of surprised this hasn't already come up.
Prereqs
Devices must:
* Be designed for use on, and locked to, the AT&T network. (Questions? See Device unlock support. )
* Not be reported lost or stolen
* Not be involved with fraudulent activity
* Have all service commitments and installment plans completed and all early termination fees paid in full
* Not currently be active on a different AT&T customer’s account
You will need your IMEI. Go to the ATT unlock website here and submit your IMEI and case. They should get back to you within 72 hours with an unlock.
My device is currently on a plan, but I figure someone here has one paid off or is able to do so. I am willing to pay it off if someone wants to make headway in getting things going here.
falkon114 said:
E: False alarm. ATT doesn't understand the difference between SIM and bootloader....
Finally. Some of you may have read through some posts or threads by me. The latest update by LG for this phone really irked me yesterday. The update installed without me choosing to, and now includes a persistent notification that can only be dismissed by having mobile data on. I had both ATT and LG on chat for almost two hours this morning trying to get some answers. So.
Without further ado, there is a way to unlock our bootloaders. I'm kind of surprised this hasn't already come up.
Prereqs
Devices must:
* Be designed for use on, and locked to, the AT&T network. (Questions? See Device unlock support. )
* Not be reported lost or stolen
* Not be involved with fraudulent activity
* Have all service commitments and installment plans completed and all early termination fees paid in full
* Not currently be active on a different AT&T customer’s account
You will need your IMEI. Go to the ATT unlock website here and submit your IMEI and case. They should get back to you within 72 hours with an unlock.
My device is currently on a plan, but I figure someone here has one paid off or is able to do so. I am willing to pay it off if someone wants to make headway in getting things going here.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but that's Sim unlock not bootloader unlock. You might want to do a little research before posting something like this. AT&T has never & will never make it that easy to unlock the bootloader on any of their devices except Htc they are the only manufacturer that allows bootloader unlocking even AT&T versions.
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krazyace35 said:
Sorry to burst your bubble but that's Sim unlock not bootloader unlock. You might want to do a little research before posting something like this. AT&T has never & will never make it that easy to unlock the bootloader on any of their devices except Htc they are the only manufacturer that allows bootloader unlocking even AT&T versions.
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Yeah I updated my OP. Not very stoked on ATT nor LG at the moment. Sorry guys
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You did sorry but no, they do understand between SIM and bootloader unlock. In their unlocking page website (for many years) that they state to unlock phones (for out of contract phone) to use with other GSM carriers.
Only you are the one who do not understand at first LOL
Hey guys, I'm fairly new to XDA but I found a way to unlock my recently bought XT1096, so I thought why not share it?
This is a lot of manual work. What I mean by that is you'll have to ship it to Motorola, wait a week or so, etc. However, it is completely free.
Alright, so this is what I did. I think this will work with any Moto X 2014, not just XT1096, but don't count me on that.
1. First, register to Motorola's forum community
2. Now, post your fastboot getvar all results to this thread, where Motorola agents will help you.
3. You'll receive a PM that confirms your information, then the agent will send you a message saying something like "your device requires repairing from Motorola in order to unlock the bootloader" along with a prepaid shipping label.
4. You'll have to wait 1.5 week+ for the package to come back. Make sure the bootloader unlocks once you get it back, because mine didn't actually unlock even after sending it to Motorola so they just sent me the unlock key after complaining to them for the 50th time. Follow instructions here to unlock the device.
This worked when I did it, which is like a month ago maybe, but Motorola's policy might have changed since so tell me if this doesn't work so I don't spread misinformation.
A colleague of mine is trying to get this phone unlocked but has been unable to obtain an unlocking code. (Edit, I believe it's branded by Verizon?)
He has tried several vendors on ebay but they have all said they don't have the unlock code for his IMEI in their database yet. Some of them added that eventually they will get the unlock code, it just takes time.
Is there anything else that can be done?
Thanks!
This has been an issue with the verizon variant of moto e4 and this topic has been discussed in another thread. Also you should be aware that the bootloader on the verizon variant is not unlockable as is in the case with other recent verizon models so it's not possible to root or install a custom rom.
Armitagej said:
A colleague of mine is trying to get this phone unlocked but has been unable to obtain an unlocking code. (Edit, I believe it's branded by Verizon?)
He has tried several vendors on ebay but they have all said they don't have the unlock code for his IMEI in their database yet. Some of them added that eventually they will get the unlock code, it just takes time.
Is there anything else that can be done?
Thanks!
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No.You Cant unlock it in this moment. You need to wait like one or two months. When the database update his servers, then you can ask for your code.
Hi Gents,
Thank you for the info. I will let me colleague know.
I stayed persistent ... Calling differant Verizon numbers, live chatting on line, basically bugging verizon wireless for almost 3 whole weeks... They gave me my unlock code about a week ago. even tho i really qualified for it about 3 weeks ago... Always , always always make sure u speak withe a live agent and accuse them of lying 2 the hardworking Americans... I took it there more than once with Verizon ,but it took all that before they gave it 2 me... Im not special so u can do it 2.
It says unlocked for CARRIER, but you think it will be unlockable bootloader too, like the one from Google?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1507485-REG/google_ga01184_us_pixel_4_xl_128gb.html
Comes with $100 gift card + 3 months free Mint + no tax in many states, so there is some reason to get it from here instead. Anyone have experience buying carrier-unlocked Pixels from B&H before, if they had unlockable bootloaders?
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It says unlocked for CARRIER, but you think it will be unlockable bootloader too, like the one from Google?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1507485-REG/google_ga01184_us_pixel_4_xl_128gb.html
Comes with $100 gift card + 3 months free Mint + no tax in many states, so there is some reason to get it from here instead. Anyone have experience buying carrier-unlocked Pixels from B&H before, if they had unlockable bootloaders?
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As I know all devices should be bootloader unlocked, so you can choose any device, it just doesn't matter, so go for you choice.
riyan65 said:
As I know all devices should be bootloader unlocked, so you can choose any device, it just doesn't matter, so go for you choice.
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That wasn't the case with the Pixel 3 at launch, though. Back then, to get unlockable bootloader, you had to order from Google directly. Is it different now?
itiskonrad said:
That wasn't the case with the Pixel 3 at launch, though. Back then, to get unlockable bootloader, you had to order from Google directly. Is it different now?
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After the release of pixel 3a it should be unlockable to all devices, like verizon, best-buy,......, So it should be unlockable.
riyan65 said:
As I know all devices should be bootloader unlocked, so you can choose any device, it just doesn't matter, so go for you choice.
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riyan65 said:
After the release of pixel 3a it should be unlockable to all devices, like verizon, best-buy,......, So it should be unlockable.
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The OP is asking about bootloader unlock (developer and root friendly). Everything you've said screams carrier unlock.
The bootloader is the low level piece of software on your device that loads the OS (Android) and everything else. It comes locked on every device for security and prevents unauthorized OS code from loading. This is completely separate from being carrier unlocked which allows you to use the device on any cellular carrier. Being able to unlock it and load any OS code has meant purchasing the device directly from Google in the past. Verizon devices for example never allowed the bootloader to be unlocked.
For the OP, since very few people understand the difference between those two things (even Google support), it will likely be a case where people will need to buy the device from B&H to find out.
l7777 said:
The OP is asking about bootloader unlock (developer and root friendly). Everything you've said screams carrier unlock.
The bootloader is the low level piece of software on your device that loads the OS (Android) and everything else. It comes locked on every device for security and prevents unauthorized OS code from loading. This is completely separate from being carrier unlocked which allows you to use the device on any cellular carrier. Being able to unlock it and load any OS code has meant purchasing the device directly from Google in the past. Verizon devices for example never allowed the bootloader to be unlocked.
For the OP, since very few people understand the difference between those two things (even Google support), it will likely be a case where people will need to buy the device from B&H to find out.
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If you search a little bit, you will able to unlock bootloader in verizon model too, verizon bootloader unlock is available for all pixel device and it going to be continued, so buying the device from Google is bootloader unlock for sure, buying from others buyers is just need a little time to get unlock the bootloader.
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l7777 said:
The OP is asking about bootloader unlock (developer and root friendly). Everything you've said screams carrier unlock.
The bootloader is the low level piece of software on your device that loads the OS (Android) and everything else. It comes locked on every device for security and prevents unauthorized OS code from loading. This is completely separate from being carrier unlocked which allows you to use the device on any cellular carrier. Being able to unlock it and load any OS code has meant purchasing the device directly from Google in the past. Verizon devices for example never allowed the bootloader to be unlocked.
For the OP, since very few people understand the difference between those two things (even Google support), it will likely be a case where people will need to buy the device from B&H to find out.
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If you search a little bit, you will able to unlock bootloader in verizon model too, verizon bootloader unlock is available for all pixel device and it going to be continued, so buying the device from Google is bootloader unlock for sure, buying from others buyers is just need a little time to get unlock the bootloader.
And I also mean bootloader unlock not carrier unlock.
riyan65 said:
If you search a little bit, you will able to unlock bootloader in verizon model too, verizon bootloader unlock is available for all pixel device and it going to be continued, so buying the device from Google is bootloader unlock for sure, buying from others buyers is just need a little time to get unlock the bootloader.
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If you search a little bit, you will able to unlock bootloader in verizon model too, verizon bootloader unlock is available for all pixel device and it going to be continued, so buying the device from Google is bootloader unlock for sure, buying from others buyers is just need a little time to get unlock the bootloader.
And I also mean bootloader unlock not carrier unlock.
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Verizon Pixel 3 XL still has a locked bootloader and is still not unlockable:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3-xl/how-to/bounty-unlock-bootloader-vzw-pixel-3-xl-t3856605
riyan65 said:
If you search a little bit, you will able to unlock bootloader in verizon model too, verizon bootloader unlock is available for all pixel device ...
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Since you're so sure this is true, please go help all of the Verizon device owners who post looking to unlock the bootloader. You could start with this recent Pixel 3XL post.
Of course, there is also the history that dates back to at least Nexus 6 days where the Verizon bootloader is locked.
Where people have really gotten bitten, is replacement devices that have come back after repairs with a unlockable bootloader like the Verizon devices have.
ktmom said:
Since you're so sure this is true, please go help all of the Verizon device owners who post looking to unlock the bootloader. You could start with this recent Pixel 3XL post.
Of course, there is also the history that dates back to at least Nexus 6 days where the Verizon bootloader is locked.
Where people have really gotten bitten, is replacement devices that have come back after repairs with a unlockable bootloader like the Verizon devices have.
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This. Verizon Pixel 2 official and any RMA Pixel 2 is not bootloader unlockable. As someone who has been through 4 until Google finally sent me a brand new Google-made Pixel 2, non Verizon, non RMA.
I haven't seen any reason to say Pixel 4 Verizon is easily unlockable.
riyan65 said:
If you search a little bit, you will able to unlock bootloader in verizon model too, verizon bootloader unlock is available for all pixel device and it going to be continued, so buying the device from Google is bootloader unlock for sure, buying from others buyers is just need a little time to get unlock the bootloader.
And I also mean bootloader unlock not carrier unlock.
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You have clearly never tried to bootloader unlock a Verizon device or you have some significantly different tools to do so and should share them with the community.
As others have pointed out, plenty of devices across the Pixel generations remain bootloader locked to this day. There are certainly smatterings of success stories with specific firmware versions but these are quickly patched.
There was recently some people that were able to unlock their Verizon Pixel 3a/XL modes after getting Verizon to carrier unlock them. But it has been attributed to a batch of MEID# that were likely incorrectly made available to bootloader unlock. Those people basically won the lottery. It certainly does not signal a change in Verizon's policy.
The best strategy is to have this mentality - if you buy a phone from Verizon (or any Verizon model phone) plan on it being permanently bootloader locked.
l7777 said:
You have clearly never tried to bootloader unlock a Verizon device or you have some significantly different tools to do so and should share them with the community.
As others have pointed out, plenty of devices across the Pixel generations remain bootloader locked to this day. There are certainly smatterings of success stories with specific firmware versions but these are quickly patched.
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I just unlock the bootloader as the given guide and it got unlocked, I didn't done anything to get it unlocked, I just use the guide how to unlock the bootloader and it got unlocked.so I thought it is available for all devices to unlock the bootloader.
riyan65 said:
I just unlock the bootloader as the given guide and it got unlocked, I didn't done anything to get it unlocked, I just use the guide how to unlock the bootloader and it got unlocked.so I thought it is available for all devices to unlock the bootloader.
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On non carrier specific devices, it's easy. On Verizon Google devices, it's rarely possible, and any vulnerability that's found is patched fast.
An authoritative statement like your post was is a problem. It has the potential to confuse the issue for people who come here for information, find an erroneous post and think they can safely buy a carrier device, still getting the bootloader unlocked.
Verizon was always a **** regarding unlocking bootloaders, they still haven't changed unfortunately.
thesebastian said:
Verizon was always a **** regarding unlocking bootloaders, they still haven't changed unfortunately.
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Yes. One does have to wonder what the bootloader unlock situation will look like now that the Pixel will be available from all carriers directly rather than just Verizon. Google still only lists Verizon as the only carrier specific option on their store. We will likely have to wait and see if the other carriers get unlockable bootloaders or not.
Hello, my friends. I am not user of Motorola/Lenovo all time but i decided to buy Moto G, an phone i had used 2 years from 2014-2016 and i was back then very satisfied.
Week ago i bought Moto G 3G/falcon for 20€ and i was very happy i am back with my old and very good device.
First thing which impressed me before buying this device how many custom roms is for Moto G so my primary target - root and custom roms.
It looks very good. I have again my cute Moto wow, i was very surprised, but... First obstacle, no 4G, nevermind.
This device ended with support at android 5.1.1 which also lag and i dont remember it so slow even before in 2016 i remember i had 5.0.2 on it but very smooth, so i think its old device i dont care, i will try some of many custom ROMs from XDA.
Day later after buy i wanted to unlock bootloader. No success and after reading many sites, i tried everything, but i am ended with motorola official page and same message in email from their support.
First noticed sentence: We love our developers.
Second:
"Bootloader unlock codes may not be available for older phones. If an unlock is not available, it will show as not qualified for bootloader unlock."
Attached photos from their page below post.
This is my last Moto/Lenovo device. First and last factor for not support for unlock bootloader ? What a cringe... Apple doing similiar thing like slowing down older devices but they got fat penalties as i know. I can understand not supporting official updates but this is so limiting and stupid!
Sony can be unlocked4ever. I am wondering how long time i can unlock bootloader for all sony devices, sometimes you can buy Sony with not unlockable bootloader but its one from 100 thousand pieces for example.
Dont buy older devices from motorola if you wanna root. I will never again.
jurkoman said:
Hello, my friends. Motorola/Lenovo is not one from my favorite brands but i decided to buy Moto G, an phone i had used 2 years from 2014-2016 and i was back then very satisfied.
Week ago i bought Moto G 3G/falcon for 20€ and i was very happy i am back with my old and very good device.
First thing which impressed me before buying this device how many custom roms is for Moto G so my primary target - root and custom roms.
It looks very good. I have again my cute Moto wow, i was very surprised, but... First obstacle, no 4G, nevermind.
This device end with android 5.1.1 which also lag and i dont remember it so slow even before in 2016 i remember i had 5.0.2 on it but very smooth, so i think its old device i dont care, i will try some of many custom ROMs from XDA.
Day later after buy i wanted to unlock bootloader. No success and after reading many sites, i am ended with motorola official page and same message in email from their support.
"Bootloader unlock codes may not be available for older phones. If an unlock is not available, it will show as not qualified for bootloader unlock." - So maybe you know what i mean.
Attached photos from their page below post.
Thank you all for your support but this is my last Moto/Lenovo device. Never ever. Only for not support for unlock bootloader ? What a F***... Apple doing similiar thing like slowing down older devices but they got fat penalties as i know. I can understand not supporting official updates but this is so limiting and stupid!
Sony can be unlocked4ever. I am wondering how long i can unlock bootloader for all sony devices, sometimes you can buy Sony with not unlockable bootloader but its one from 100 thousand pieces for example.
Dont buy this limit from motorola if you wanna root. Never again.
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Most older Moto devices were carrier-branded, and have agreements with the carriers that the bootloader would not be eligible for bootloader unlocking.
Although Moto still has these same agreements with carriers, most newer models are available unbranded, which can be bootloader unlocked.
It's certainly possible that the model you had previously was allowed to be bootloader unlocked, and the model you now have never could be unlocked.
The list of supported devices has never been accurate, and many models that can be unlocked have never been on the official list.
You can check the list of CIDs, to see if your model should be eligible for bootloader unlocking, that is pretty clear.
If your CID is on the list as eligible, try the unlocking steps.
Mote, the moto unlocking site is very buggy and many people get a reply that their device can not be unlocked.
if you get this message just keep trying, it should work eventually.
See my thread
[Guide]Un/locking Motorola Bootloader
UnLocking and ReLocking Motorola Bootloader https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a Moto Bootloader Unlocking site Re-Locking see Post #4 More about bootloader UnLocking Post #2 Can my...
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The age of the Motorola smartphone has no relevance whatsoever in regards to official bootloader unlocking support. Unless the device is an ineligible carrier branded model, the bootloader is fully supported for unlocking, regardless of when it was manufactured. As @sd_shadow pointed out, don't purchase a carrier branded Motorola device if you want to unlock and customize your smartphone. Most Sprint (Boost Mobile, Virgin Mobile, Republic Wireless, etc.) and T-Mobile branded Motorola devices are eligible for unlocking per their agreements with Motorola. As a general rule, however, Verizon, AT&T (Cricket) & TracFone (Net10 & StraigjtTalk) branded devices are ineligible for unlocking, per contractual agreements with Motorola. Of course, the safest wager is always a retail/factory unlocked smartphone purchased directly through Motorola or a reputable retailer.
Although this is an older post, perhaps the info will be useful to members not aware of Motorola's unlocking policies regarding certain carrier branded models.